The Elephant In The Project Zomboid Room
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Today I cover a long term problem in Project Zomboid. All the way back in build 41.73 they added the ability to accidentally not close your car door, but the door isn't animated. You have no idea if its open or closed. While this was included in a patchnote, the vast majority of Zomboid players came after this happened. They simply have no chance at knowing this can happen all the way up until they make a post on the forums or subreddit complaining about a bug only to be told its a "skill issue".
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Hi again. It's EnigmaGrey:
So first, it's not really "new" to the July or August update: Cars have always had two timed actions involving doors: a "get in" action followed by a "close door" action.
At any time, the user could interrupt these actions (ESC key, for example) Or by bugging out the timed action by hitting a few keys.
Second, the first few reports we got about this were somewhat confusing, as just as often, opening the map seemed to break it. (Get in the car and immediately press the M key.)
Third, the reason we made this change isn't to troll. The MP team noticed constant problems with syncing players related to getting into cars. The original check allowed for the vehicle to move a tiny amount despite treating it like it had "stopped." Now, any movement causes the closed-door action to cancel.
We didn't feel it was right to revert this change after talking it over with the MP team and instead compromised by adding a new timed action bar for "indefinite" timeframes that would keep cycling until the action completes.
After getting feedback on the indefinite timed action bar, we changed the action to play the close door sound after the close door action completes. Listen carefully, however: the sound includes both open and close noises. We could not get new sound assets for this at the time, so we had to make do with it.
Fair enough on the Open/Close car door button in the rotary menu -- I forgot it was a thing and no one else seemed to catch on that it'd be immensely helpful in this situation to make it accessible when in the car.
Remember, this all occurred during a pretty turbulent time: PZ had just blown up a few months earlier, hacking (and other MP-related issues) were everywhere, and we had taken on a bunch of new people, all while trying to move on to 42. Instead, we were stuck in a cycle of releasing and testing build 41 bug fixes, with each release eating weeks for private and then public testing, with then meant further fixes, resulting in more testing ... pushing everyone else's work on 42 back further. We had to give up on the idea that it'd have to be perfect and move on. This is one of the casualties.
Part of 42 will likely be adding the animated car doors.
(Note also: the V key hasn't been the default for Hide UI for a very long time -- probably since 2020. However, if you played the game for years and never reset your Zomboid folder, you'd still have the old binding. No one new should have it unless they added it back themselves. You might want to clean out your Zomboid folder.)
Being unable to update the key bindings unless the user manually deletes files is an issue too as proven by this video. There's no reset all* to default option in the key bindings menu.
Screw you Enigma you big ol meanie
Thanks for the response enigmagrey!
@@Canzandridas same here, a worrying statement, hopefully they meant the opposite?
@@Canzandridas From the Project Zomboid Wiki. " Toggle UI: V
Will hide/show the HUD, excluding moodles. Ideal for taking uncluttered screenshots.
Note that this will not function when nearby a vehicle, and will instead trigger the vehicle radial menu."
I have no clue what Jake Snow is on about. V has always been hide UI. I just installed Zomboid on a new hard drive (SO THAT MEANS NO PRIOR DATA) and V hides the UI and accesses the vehicle radial wheel.
I had no idea this was a thing but this explains one of my friends deaths. It made him quit the game for a while due to frustration. We thought it was a multiplayer desync issue, but this seems like the more likely explanation because he had just gotten in a car a drove away, and got bit through the door.
The worst part is it will happen after like 10 minutes of driving so there's no way to put two and two together.
@@Retanaru I had a bite through a car door when I had driven half across Louisville, parked outside my base and was sitting enjoying a cigarette. Zombonie sneaks up and it's goodnight Nancy. I must have driven right across the city with my door open the whole time. Funny not funny. Haha. :)
A game with so much potential, that has literally come back from the dead due to its devoted fanbase, and with developers completely unable to figure out something individual modders got done within the span of a few months.
i think character save is a great mod in case you got bit for bullshit reasons, just one key click and it save you char. you can load it later with the same name as your old char.
Is your friend quite literally a child? Why are you playing with little children? That's not manly behavior.
I didn't even know the car doors could be opened or closed till now thats so strange that they don't have an animation for them being like that
That's what happens when devs add a new feature right before abandoning all patches for a while (odd choice).
@@MsHojat Great point. Expand on what you already have. Don’t stretch your resources!
Dont fix what's not broken and don't bite more than you can chew.
@@Wyatt-sh4qz what? but it is broken tf are you talking about
Casually glossing over the driving through doors glitch. That was cooold
Definitely not glossing over an OP exploit to having a safe base or anything.
@@Retanaru it's no different than having a gate; so not OP at all, just slightly more convenient. I suppose gates require carpentry, but still not that big of a deal; moving furniture also works, although that's even more of a chore to open/close. There are a couple of slightly more powerful base-related exploits that I haven't heard anyone ever talk about, but they're best kept secret (maybe you know some too).
@@MsHojat and why should they be kept secret.
@@geckoh3963 Either so the devs don't catch on to fix it or so that people can use these to their advantage against people unaware of them in some kind of pvp scenario(if project zomboid even has pvp, I've never played it).
@@joelcrafter43 project zomboid does have PVP, but it's janky so a ton of servers leave it off
Bro, when you have to install MODS to fix issues that shouldn’t be issues, there’s a pretty obvious problem.
I've made 4 mods to solve base game issues. Literally my only other mod is one that gives you anxiety
Skyrim in a nutshell
@@Bombingham Also Minecraft in a nutshell
We're waiting for basic NPCs for 10 years now, and only now people are noticing how shit IndieStone is in developing their game
@@dwarf9938 They couldve added just some basic raiders, looters or bandits so game wont turn into farming simulator after a few weeks. Even on hardcore settings and low loot you just get to the point where you're strong enough to fight any zombie group with spear or metal pipe. Who the hell needs those sheeps, chickens and pigs? Its just stupid
it's kinda ridiculous that we still don't have basic vehicle animations after FIVE YEARS
Well you see thats what happens when you put all your focus on build 42
Vehicles are rare by default in Zomboid. The vast majoriety of the playerbase is either okay with the jank or even finds it amusing. I think if they were to do a poll, almost all of the community would want animals/etc before anything to do with automobiles.
But that's not to say that won't be the case! Build 42 started out with many things that they didn't plan to initially add, but are now subject for installation when it becomes public. So, I think cars getting some updates is very still likely and not at all out of reach.
@@atomic_bomba To sum up this person's comment "This is all stuff I pulled out of my ass and made up."
Vehicles aren't rare, and you have no idea what the majority of the player base feels.
@@atomic_bomba Why is it everytime I encounter an Eastern Euro who plays zomboid they always think they’re in the right or know it all when it comes to the game
@@TheBlarggle Vehicles of any decent condition (thus, usable) are in-fact rare by most game standard settings. I judge what the playerbase thinks when the developers ask the community about the things they'd like to see - vehicles being funky is hardly a concern.
I thought the elephant in the room was that the guy who just leaked top secret documents was a big Project Zomboid fan lol
Clear evidence Zomboid gun enthusiasts are crazy people /s
@@Retanaru dude proved the government has been lying about ukraine since the beginning though.
@@markwatton4752 what did they lie about?
@@colinhubble6667 Look into it yourself, don't just ask me, but everything.
@@markwatton4752 I read about it and I'm not sure what was lied about, but I guess if you don't understand your own point of view enough to explain it that's fine as long as you're aware.
Fixing this and better management of weight/calorie stuff would be amazing. I'm also hearing impaired so I have never heard this door closing sound so TIL.
Yeah. It's kind of ridiculous that Zomboid seems to think humans will wither away if they're not slamming butter and ice cream on a daily basis.
It's just baffling that your character can be consistently full and also hemorrhaging weight faster than most people on a diet.
@@scyfrix Ever heard of eating disorders?
@Scyfrix For real I'd be enormous if I ate as much as my zomboid character. I get what they're going for with the calories of the food being separate from being hungry, but it's pretty crazy you gain and lose weight so fast and can die of starvation in just a couple days. I'm sure the logic is that it adds to the gameplay to not just be able to ignore being hungry for a few days while you kill zombies like you could in real life, but it's annoying nonetheless.
@@xdeathcon It does add to the realism to an extent, but it also becomes more of a chore, as I still always end up struggling with being underweight, even if I manage to eat a balanced or heftier diet. That doesn't quite feel intentional.
@@xdeathcon you don't do as much walking/running/fighting IRL as you do in zomboid though, I mean you'd be surprised at some of the calories proffesional athletes eat on a daily basis. like I've never really dove into how the system actually works and it does feel like you need to eat way too much but I kind of wonder what would happen in the game if you lived a more sedentary lifestyle like most of us do in real life. (I mean most of us don't go running around fighting zombies 12 hours a day, right? XD)
Almost bled to death from a scratch to the neck due to this. Stopped my car to text and a zombie walked up and instantly scratched me through my visibly closed window, I was quite confused and annoyed.
Yea dont text and zomboid, lost two chars to that
don't text and play. Simple
@@palomaelegante I play for like 6 hour sessions with my friends. Girlfriend needs some sorta attention in that timeframe usually lol. Would have been a non-issue if my door was actually shut like it appeared to be. I'd have heard a window smack and drove forward for 10 seconds.
@@TheTeddyGuy28 well then don't interrupt the door closing action like I do. I never died like this. Be careful and you'll never die, unless you had a glitch or something like that
@@palomaelegante I didn't know about it before because there's no visible animation. Now I do, so obviously I won't.
i lost one of my favourite and most well built characters to this, and found out about this "feature" via reddit after googling it extremely confused and annoyed.
glad to see you make a video about it.
Honestly if you die to bullshit like that just cheat your character back to life. If its due to a game bug/incomplete feature it's only fair
I've had a similar issue when going up the stairs. If there's a zombie at the top of the stairs it can see you, but you can't see it. This not only gives you a chance to go up the stairs and be surrounded by zombies your character should have seen before going all the way up, the zombies can start a lunge attack as you're going up the stair resulting in a bite you see 0.5 second before it happens.
Yeah its pretty shit.
just crouch and spam Q
Nice to hear you talk about this, wondering if it was on your list :)
Did an amazing job as usual too ofc.. had me actually lol at the 'dying to complete bullshit' and then again when you brought up the shared keybind.. nice one man
In real life (I know this from BeamNG) driving quickly with the door open automatically causes your door to swing closed. Why was this not implemented when they added the ability to leave your door open? Also, if the door is left open, it should extend the hitbox of the car and, if the door slams into something, it should definitely close. Also it would be super nice if the devs at least did some kind of band-aid fix for this, like just just making the door become translucent if it is open.
Because PZ devs only love realism when it makes the game harder. Magic stay-open car doors right alongside your survivors that get sleepy from a light jog.
Fr literally GTA 3, a game from 2001 has better car door mechanic than PZ
@@dauphongii Wow, a game from Rockstar is more polished than an indie game that's been in beta for years? What else can you
@@AsukaLangleyS02 yes, a game from Rockstar, but from 2001. PZ is NOT EVEN THAT OLD look at other indie games, PZ developers are just not doing good job at all.
If you want to include mechanic where you can leave your doors open, then there should be a visual sign they are open. Either that, or just don't add it? It's that simple.
@@dauphongii Mate, Project Zomboid first started production in 2011. I'm pretty sure that 80% of the people watching this channel still crapped their pants by that time.
For me it's kind confusing that animated cars aren't in the main game, like okay if it was very difficult to do with engine limitations i can understand. But currently moders done all devs work about not only animated cars but customisation cars as well with windows protection, new bumpers and additional roof storage area adding more depth to current cars system. And then i ask once again, is it really that hard to implement having all resource and native code of the game.
As far as I understand the animation framework is vanilla. They just never released vanilla animated cars.
What is so confusing? It's just incompetent developers. There's nothing more to it.
Back up your saves. If you die from something legit accept it.... if you die from a bug or jank keep playing. If you think this is cheating dont do it and accept the jank. I once went upstairs for 1 minute to sign for a package and came back to find I didnt actually pause the game and got swarmed, but Im not losing a 2 year character to that kind of silly thing. If I die legitimately Ill accept it and start over.
When I'm in a "getting absolutely carried by the modding community while stalling updates" competition and my opponents are the PZ developers:
In all seriousness the reason it takes so long is because the coding for this game is absolute trash, and the system is so hard to work with barely any work gets done without breaking everything on the rare occasion they work on the game.
Anyone who has done any modding on Zomboid knows what I'm talking about, especially if you've seen the backend Java code.
Two more weeks until B42 fixes all this, trust the plan! Go buy the Spiffo plushie while you wait!
Yes I also died from this bug. This video explained it perfectly, thanks for discussing this issue!
Hey Ret, how about some testing about whether your car drives faster without ANY doors? Ive noticed adding or removing parts changes its total weight, and thus could change acceleration.
I remember weight changing acceleration speed when I tested years ago. I'll have to look at it again. Thanks for the idea.
@@Retanaru also, can you please check gas tank size? is there a diference on speed or acceleration?
@@SuperMaximumTrolling My guess would be that it has no effect, but it would be awesome if stripping down your car made it faster
@@Ricksdetrix Me too, bro, but we're not sure yet, I mean, it's kinda OP to have a giant gas tank with no penalties.
On a similar note. I've removed parts of vehicles to make them easier to tow.
I will go with "this is a low priority issue" as to why it was never fixed. I think fixing performance with the new rendering system and adding more late game systems to engage players are more important than this issue.
it's more important yeah, but if a modder goes out of their way to fix it, it's removing all the devs have in terms of power.
He didn't die because of this issue per se (i.e. because he assumed the door was closed), but I just yesterday watched a streamer die to a neck scratch through a visually closed door
It's just so bizarre that something like this could be added without the corresponding animation to match - instead we're stuck waiting until the next major update
Rooftop navigation and eating burnt food are two other notorious sources of "dying to bullshit" as well
And I also didn't even realize hiding the UI was also bound to V until that same streamer did it several times!
One more thing: supposedly even though you can also leave the hood open, it doesn't affect how the engine is damaged at all (never tested this myself). And I also have zero idea how trunks/trunk doors work.
Rooftops I kind of get, many aren't intended as play areas (even though, imo, the entire map should be an intended play area as it is a sandbox) but burnt food is massive bs. Burnt food is just gross, its no more dangerous than perfectly cooked food.
the stupidest thing is the animations are already ingame, and so are some of the adjusted car models. Thats what modders are using to make their own vehicle animations.
the only reason it isnt fully implemented is because they havent finished some of the features of this. And they havent started finishing them either. Its utterly bizarre.
@@YourPalKindred I mean it's carcinogenic usually. And probably less nutrition because that's been turned to carbon. Might even make you throw up depending on how charred it is. But I don't think anyone in history has died on the spot just from eating burnt food.
Devs don't care about this though. This is a gritty dark apocalypse game so of course they reserve realism for calorie counting and not the fact that, for example, you shouldn't need an airlock to stop zombies from teleporting past walls into your base.
@@TooFewSecrets
My dude, eating a couple of burnt steaks won't give you cancer.
PZ devs are bad devs, plain and simple. Incompetent, to be more precise. Which is extra funny (not) when you realize that this thing has been in production for fifteen freaking years and they obviously did not learn a thing. Or did they? Maybe they realized that this is their small star citizen - a project that will keep em fed (somewhat) for life, thus there is no need for making a finished, polished product. Basically, PZ was on par with minecraft. It's one of the few mostodonts of that early access spring era that still floats, utilizing EA model as an excuse for not delievering proper product. Well, minecraft has been sold to MS and now it's a good enough (tm) product. And PZ is still feeding us wih primitive features like NPCs, but it cant even provide ANY kind of visual indication of your car' door status. Not even an icon. So yeah, we are not getting anything from them. Somebody ought to do a new Zomboid, with blackjack and NPC hookers.
It's why I have to run 200 mods on my multiplayer server because the base game has the same amount of content as a game that's been in early access for 15 months instead of 15 years.
The easiest bandaid fix I can think of right now is to just have the little "Ding, ding, ding" noise when a door is open in a car. It might not be lore friendly but it's a temporary solution. Maybe a mod idea?
One of the mods I link does that.
@@Retanaru Oh nice, thanks
Or just have the door become translucent or something. Or even easier: have the character say, "I think I left my car door open. I should close it!" in text above their head.
If I'm not mistaken, you are able to bring a dead character back by opening up the DB file related to your savegame in DBBrowser and toggling a 1 to a 0 in there. Though, you would in addition need to boot your game up in debug mode to quickly toggle godmode or something akin to make sure your character doesn't die again in that same moment.
I didn't even know car doors could be open in zomboid
insane closing the car door is audio only when being deaf is a trait in game
Even a stopgap fix of rendering the car as if the door is gone (like they do with open windows) would go a long way for thos
this is why i dont feel bad for healing from glitch deaths in pz
like the time i broke stairs i was standing on the first step of with a sledgehammer and instantly died
If you remove zombie infection through the debug menu, you also need to reset the infected timer. Otherwise the next time you are infected and the game checks the status of infection, you instantly die.
Thanks for the Car Overhaul mod recommendation, I will download that mod first thing tomorrow!
Pretty sure the same can happen to the engine hood if you walk away while the mechanics menu is open or something like that. not sure if it has implications when ramming something though (ie damage going directly to the engine instead of the hood first)
yeah, I had to keep reminding people on the server I played (I was the mechanic) to please double check that the hood was closed before driving. the hood tanks most if not all damage that would have otherwise impacted the engine condition, but having the hood open bypasses any damage to the hood, meaning the engine will receive damage as if the hood was at 0 condition or missing. You can guess which part is harder to fix lol.
@@spicey4522 yeah people tend to wreck cars so fast but it's pretty easy to maintain them if you figure out the hood thing. if your hood is in good condition (forgot the exact numbers but just keep it in the green or something XD) your engine will take no damage no matter how hard the crash. and as you mention you can easily repair a hood with metal sheets and a torch while engines require you to strip every car on the server from parts (which is annoying if you're admin and everyone's like "why are there no working cars?" XD) (also engines require way more mechanic skill IIRC)
@@zwenkwiel816 exactly. The server I played on set salvaging engine parts to level 10 partly to combat mass vehicle bricking but also to make it so when engine parts are salvaged, characters get the most parts from each engine (I could pretty reliably get 25ish parts from a 100% engine, and it would take 20-25 parts to bring a 0 condition engine to 100). I always kept a few metal sheets in the trunk and swapped hoods once I’d repaired it 3-4 times since repeat repairs have diminishing returns. LV was my go to place for car parts since even 2 months in there were large parking lots that were virtually untouched, while all of the spawnable cities were relatively car free, and I would fix up beaters and drop them off in spawn cities to appease accusatory admins who kept thinking that I was the mass spawn town stripper of cars or whatever.
I really wonder why the devs haven't made them animated yet. It's not like they need to model an interior. Just have a black texture like they do for broken windows.
Also, about modded vehicles, the animated vehicles aren't always synced in Multiplayer. I experience it a lot. But there is a mod out there that claims to fix it! I haven't tried it myself yet though. I keep forgetting to.
If you read the descriptions\comments of modders who make the fancy animated doors, the procedure appears to be some sort of psychological torture, which might be why TIS is currently dodging to fix this, which doesn't explain WHY in the HELL they allow doors to be left open while visually closed!
while messing with the debug, spawning cars and all, i saw a wip vanilla car that actually has animated doors and such, so they already had made something of the likes in the works, just that it looks like its not that finished yet, i mean theres only one wip vanilla car that has animated doors i saw
@@rjames0820 Yeah, i figured they did that one-off to test the system, and promptly figured out that "yeah we ain't gonna do this for all the cars just yet"
Sounds like someone died to this issue haha
This is the video version of headbutting TIS
Can't address and issue anymore without having people go "someone got off the wrong wide of bed lmao lol amiright redditors"
Happened to me 9 months ago during a testing stream (for the patch it came out in). At the rate I make videos I'm more than a year behind on things I said I'd do.
@@MissFazzington That or the whole "lol skill issue funny meme"
Redditor spotted
I love mods with names like; if you're in the car, you're in the car.
Reminds me of a death I had recently (with footage!!) where I got knocked down by a vaulting zombie's swing, then halfway through the animation of my character getting up, the animation froze for half a second, and then the whole animation restarted from the beginning, but slower (maybe it was starting to play a different animation altogether??), and this took so much time that a zombie walked all the way over and bit me. It was on a singleplayer world and I still have no idea what happened.
It really surprises me that this game is as old as it is and it's still full of issues like this.
Your character had back pain while trying to get up, froze suddenly because of the surge of pain, fell down and had to get back up again, but slower.
Should've invested in a better bed!
@@NatTardis The fact that your comment ratio'd mine makes me think the people reading it took it seriously which is almost funnier than what you said in-and-of-itself XD
I think Rentanaru died from this lol
We need truly need car animations, similar issues like this one happen with your car hood or trunk. There's just no clear way of noticing if they're open or not.
My best run ended to this with a stalled engine. I had time to bail, if only I'd known, but I thought the door would hold them while I started it up again. I was so mad and confused.
We need the most basic of visual indicators - a weird color, anything, for a door staying open. Or maybe the devs could hire these modders to animate the vanilla cars?
Fun thing is the interior of cars and engines and animations are already in the game files. The only reason they haven't added is sync issues in multiplayer.
Yes. This particular bs killed me more than twice. I was always so confused when it happened. Thanks for providing the answer. Great video well presented as always. :)
same pfp gang
Again we see a problem fixed by modders and devs of a game can't be bothered to fix.
And it annoys me to no end, This game is SO finiky about certain actions that would be PERFECTLY normal to just do as a person day to day.
Having a ciggerette while reading a book
having a drink while reading a book
Eating a sandwich while reading a book
Do another action while filling up your car, looking behind you while filling your car.
walking upto a car and pressing E should have you try to the CLOSEST door, not rely on the tiny green square.
20 zombies in a porta potty.
we can rebuild engines, craft metal walls etc...but we can't sharpen an axe.
How does one break a steel/iron crowbar when all your hitting is fleshy things.
Charecters not wanting to swing a weapon for no apparent reason, (A though bubble to say WHY would be GREAT)
You feel queeezy...ok...WHY, I have no bites or scratches, not eaten anything stale/bad or uncooked, not near dead bodies...why am I queezy..oh wait im overheating now, strip off...still over heating and now losing health...WHY.
I like the game, but some of the janky mechanics just ruin the experiance, If an outline is BRIGHT green, the action should succeed (Shoving/shotting etc) if it has a chance to miss...DON'T MAKE IT GREEN.
I do believe the devs are playing minecraft instead of making games.
the devs are probably leaving this in on purpose. i reported a bug in the controls & was told by a dev that they're leaving it in on purpose bc they think learning about the bug & playing around it is "part of learning to play the game, just like you have to do with any other game". out of their fucking minds. i had just bought the game so they earned my refund
I have not played zomboid for at least a year so I had no idea this was an issue. Hopefully it gets addressed sooner rather than later
Video request: towing - how much horse power does the car need to have extra to compensate for Sunday driver and how much less HP for speed demon to be as good as without either trait.
I hope vanilla car door animations are implemented _soon._ Happened to me last night. Drove before I heard the "door close" sound. Visually seeing your door being open is important.
Not to rub salt in the wound, but that mod car really does look like the chad half of the 'guy she tells you not to worry about' meme. 😬
"We are 4 months away from this being a year old problem"
(Video posted 4 months ago)
I remember that I once wrote about this issue on the Steam forum and the only responses I got were absolutely idiotic PZ fanboys saying that it's supposed to be that way and that its too hard for devs to do anything about it, plus its realistic apparently
I was baffled, the community of this game is just braindead, they suck off developers so much, even when devs implement such horrible features
The devs of this game are just incompetent, they literally can not model a simple low poly car door for like 10 vehicles, even though the vehicles have been out for 7 years or so
Same happened just now on Steam & devs closed a topic in ~2 hrs after that video was posted in discussion :)
Finally someone making sense about zomboid. Thank you for nooticing.
Another really bad oversight is how blood decals tank fps in SP, even though MP has a fix. After clearing out areas several times, the game becomes inplayable due to the blood decals clogging memory.
If you have fps problems, try disabling blood decals
Surprisingly I've never been bullshitted by this particular bug in my over 1000 hours of play but thanks for the heads up about the HD replacer mod, I'll be snagging that.
Project zomboid is a great and unique game. It makes me sad that the devs became somewhat arrogant and complacent due to its success. There are bugs and strange design choices years old, but if you start a discourse on urgent improvements, you get ignored at best, banned from the platforms they control at worst. Don't even get me started on how long updates are taking now.
"Arrogant"
That's an understatement lmao.
Man in 500hrs i never died from something like this
I've been looking for an explanation of this for SO long. I've recorded multiple instances of it happening to me.
Open car doors. *facepalm*
This happened to me when I decided to sleep in a mail truck earlier today. I was lucky enough that my clothes stopped the bite, but I was incredibly confused as to why my seemingly closed window wasn't blocking the zombie's attacks.
Tailoring is OP! 😂
There was no elephant. Clickbait
I always assumed it was just a visual bug with modded cars. I never knew that the door is actually open and it can happen on vanilla cars too.
They should really just hire these modders, then maybe we'll finally get to see the finished game by 2049 instead of 2050.
I never had this happen to me, so I had no idea this was even a thing. lol It is a big issue. I usually wait a moment between actions just so I know the next action will start when I actually press the button (like starting the car), so probably why I never interrupted the door closing. I have had other cases of dying to "complete bullshit" though so I do know the feel. xD
Well damn, I didn't know this was an issue. That explains a lot. I really hope the devs fix this, but thank you for the mod suggestions.
I've gotten bit a few times through a door, never knew it was this bug until now. Thought my window was down but it wasnt. Thought it was broken but it wasnt. Lost 2 awesome characters because of bullshit. Thanks indie stone!
I'm quite a bit disappointed that there's still no way to make proper death wagons in a *zombie game*. I know they've teased some images of moddable cars but there's still no follow up on that.
neat video. I had no idea at all this happened and I've definitely been hit by the whole getting bit while in a car thing.
This just explained a specific bullshit death on a MP sever where I'd had the character over an in game month (with the days set to very long IRL time). Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Besides preventing me from doing this again, there is a certain satisfaction of finally understanding what actually happened.
Didn’t know that we could leave car doors open, and I never died from it because let zombies get to my window even for a second
Im not sure if this is because of a mod i have installed but in debug mode there is a Cossette you can spawn that has full animations and a modeled interior including opening and closing the doors and hood
I don't know how to feel about this, it's quite part of the game die to bullshit, but it's very annoying too
Hi, nice vid! just a question, how did you fix the enter animation on vehicles? :O
I have totally drove off without hearing the door closing noise and wondered...hat's off to you sir for letting me know and bringing this up. It seems driving a modded car is the best option. I'd be angry if I didn't love the rest of this game
I mean to be fair they don't even have animals yet, I give em another decade for vehicle animations.
Is that Opel Kadet?
i don't like cars with animations, doesn't fit zomboid's simplicity
this happens to me nearly every time i play. Even when I way for the animation to complete I swear there's a second or half second delay of silence afterwards you still have to sit through or the door stays open and you just get bit for no reason. Like just don't add the game mechanic if you can't animate a simple car door swinging open or closed
Didn't know you could manually back up a save. I've been desperate for that. 1. Just because I'm not very good at the game, but 2. Because twice recently my game has crashed and I come back to an important item just being fucking gone. It's not like my game went back in time and the item is somewhere that it was previously. It's just fucking gone. First it was my jack and then it was my fireman helmet. 😠😥
(Jack vanished out of my god damn inventory, and I think some other things did too but that was the only one important enough for me to remember. Helmet vanished off the floor of my house, which I put down just for an hour so I wouldn't get so sweaty while exercising. I'm still so mad.)
I Played the Long Dark before this. CBOX broke and I had a Broke PC that somehow Unbroke.
Bought this game. And my man frustration is Lag. Otherwise Fuckin A. It’s hard on just Base Settings. But to be fair if I had the ability to Pan Around at will. No Frame loss. I’d be Fine.
First Person when Driving?
first?
why dont you try getting a job?
@@Nikkibuh your mom is my job lmao
Ah, that explains why I just died when a zombie phased his head through a closed car window to give me a smooch (or I wish, I actually got bitten) this is, like you said, absolute fucking bullshit
Shark and Cytt's Kentucky Car Overhaul; Etse Mod breaks the animations when climbing a vehicle, you do not imagine how horrible the character is floating in the air while riding a motorcycle.
I think there should just be an alternative "easy" or rather "learning" mode that just allows saving, maybe like by sleeping at a bed or something. You can call it a crutch or me a baby all you want, I'm just tired of doing the first part of the game and it stopps being fun quicker than youd imagine before youre used to systems and jank.
I'd just be a lot happier with an intermediate amount of punishment. Going to get your items after dying can be very compelling, redoing the work of disasembling 500 watches is not.
Terraria would definitely be a worse game for 99% of people if you were default placed in a hardcore world and had to used mods / console commands to access what we call softcore and mediumcore modes.
I dont want to just git gud. I want to have fun.
This is such an elephant I didn't even realize it existed. My personal elephant is how they hired everyone under the sun EXCEPT for K15 and Brita (its ok, not everyone wants to be a game dev for a living), which is funny because I disable vanilla vehicles and vanilla guns. They're so bare bones there's no reason to not disable them really.
I had an incident where I was in the back seat of a 2 door sports car with the driver window busted out and still got bit. I didn't like that one bit and that's what initially got me pondering over the vehicle elephant. Basic animations would be nice, but also possibly an update to the HUD that shows if you're vulnerable while you're in a seat other than the driver's.
when this happened to me i cheated to remove the wound anf didnt feel bad at all.
PVP issues with cars:
-No way of getting hitstunned.
(In PVP person in car has an advantage.)
-If ran over and they keep the car over you, your screwed.
(Atleast Zombies cant get you if your "dead" in the middle.)
(Some cars that sit low it would make sense.)
-No way to know if person in car has a gun or is aiming. (No Animation/Vanilla Cars.)
Love this game very much but cant ignore these.
Personally I think it's annoying how there's no support for destroying simple structures (to my knowledge) with a car. (Why can't we run through a wooden fence without my car stopping and breaking every bone in my body.
I only use vanilla cars at the start of a game. As soon as I find one of the modded cars I always only use those so I guess that is why I never had this problem. All cars have little problems anyway. Traction problems, absence of 4x4 or unscientific behavior when towing or offroading. Modders have tried to work around this by vastly increasing car horsepower or adding wheels with twice the number of friction etc. But its all lovely still.
Last night was clearing out the riverside country club. I'd been killing it, I had rescued the pool and the main building. The screen minimializes for no reason. I listen to my character get bitten over, and over again without being able to do anything because the game doesn't have the sense to pause if it crashes. To add insult to injury, when the game came back, I was still alive, just with a bite on every limb. This game is really fun, and heck I would chuckle at the reality of my character just standing there in shock as their brain crashes if it was irl. But that's too much. Just autopause if the game gets minimialized.
I want to get back into this game, but really don't feel like going through the whole thing where I find the right mods to get the maps, level, cars, etc. all set up... I used to not mind spending a whole day or even two days getting mods set up and working in a game, but I play so many games that need or are just better with mods - so it gets boring , having to get it all set up instead of being able to jump directly into a game I suddenly want to play again.
I wish my SSD was bigger than 500GB so I could just keep everything on here at all times....
I died to some complete bullshit with a character that I had been working on for a week. I thought it was just a bugged window. This was like 3 months ago and I haven't really played much since then. Now that I know that it was probably because of this door bullshit I'm even more frustrated.
Well, it's been a decade and we still don't see NPC's and the 'Till Death Do Us Part' story re-added to the game, so... I'd say, personally, the mods are either really, really, really lazy or hey have just straight up forgotten about their own game.
One way to avoid this problem is to shut off your vehicle engine when you get out. Sure if your car is on critical condition and you gotta get in and out quick you could leave the engine on, but for me if I'm gonna do anything that involves leaving the car unless an emergency I will turn off the engine. When you get back in your car your character will always close the car door as you turn the keys to start up the engine thus you don't risk this bs happening to you. (or just download one of many fine vehicle mods from the workshop)
Watched the video, thinking that this would not happen to me. Just got killed after 1 month solo game because of this. (Had to debug+godmod) Thank you for making this video.
I love Project Zomboid with all my heart. I just wish they would fix all the jank that gets you killed. I used to be excited for new content, but now it just terrifies me as sometimes it brings more crippling bugs that will end your game.
cars really feel like a dated component with how much the rest of the game has been expanded lately, I hope they all get the ki5 treatment where they have fully 3d models, and I'd enjoy more components in them to make mechanics more fun, swapping out radiators, replacing busted timing belts, reinforcing cars
Been playing since release. There is a sound indicator that lets you know you shut the door or opened it and left it open. If you pay attention, no problem. If you are unsure, just get out and back in and let the door close sound play so you know. This is very simple. Of course an open door animation would make sense and we should have it, but some of the comments here saying its game breaking is insane considering what even just the vanilla game offers and how awesome the game is. If you dont like it, just use a a few mods. Its 1 click and you're done.
this + your hitbox being available for zombies the instant you input exit vehicle as opposed to when you're physically rendered into the world and able to move is utter bullshit. never playing without car overhaul which at least mitigates the door thing. i really wish they'd stop halfassing features and then just forgetting about them for literal years because ohh i have to work on cows or some other nonsense 90% of the playerbase will ignore in favor of the actually engaging gameplay loop
Lost 2 20+ days runs in a row due to this issue now. Getting into combat with 7 zombies has me encountering 3 combat bugs during the time im trying to kill them. Risk reduction means nothing when the game is still clearly a mess. But what we need are wildlife and npcs. Because that wont be a mess.
I died to this literally last night. Complete BS. Good Video. Really hope the developers fix it. Almost got rid of the Smoker Debuff on the playthrough, too.
This explains how I got bit afew days ago...
Cars in general are broken. They are extremely weak, rare, and lacking in customization.
This isn't Europe. Just like guns, cars and parts are very prevalent in America. I'd really like to see more parts added and options to strengthen cars with welding
Great. I didn’t know this was a bug. Now I’m bummed that I lost my longest surviving character to a bug. Fuck sake.
pz always has the type of issues that make me quit the game and stop playing for months on end cuz it immediately stops being fun
If there is a mod for it, why bother fixing a minor issue when apparently these guys are going to "making mine carts fly properly in an acsii game" levels of detail. Just avoid the carp for now.
One other huge bullshit that happened twice in my last game, but luckly no death, is that if you have to leave the game in a hurry and kill the zombies around you or run away, you come back to a zombie biting on the spot. I mean, how hard is to start the game paused ffs. I still didnt create the habit of hitting f2 after entering the game because I didn't left the game in danger,