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Yeah. It's patently absurd that a man with a TV show even pretends that he isn't about the spectacle. It literally what he's about. If there's no spectacle, there's no show.
@@klaustrophobic3643 Though, taste dictates that you either have it be fictional people with trauma... or kings in a "historical production" that contains almost none of the "history" part and entirely relies on the "production" part ... "Oh shit, I'm in a graveyard... time for my incredibly funny dead body/skeleton puppetry bit where I do my take on Spanish theatre! Just before seeing that girl I'm a total piece of shit towards again, after my Uncle attempted to get me killed in a way I don't remember well--Pirates were involved though!"
The audience buys into the exploitative premise of the show the moment they purchase tickets. It's what enables such blatant hypocrisy. I don't believe he's not aware of this, somewhere in his soul. He must know. Ratings are his sole, threadbare, corrupted form of redemption.
He's not licensed to be a therapist in his state, iirc he lost his license in texas and can't have one. When you go onto his show you have to sign papers saying you acknowledge you shouldn't take any advice. He's just a piece of shit lol.
That literally happened to me. I asked my psychiatrist to explain my diagnosis and he told me to get out and prevented me from seeing any other practitioner forcing me to stay on meds that made me psychotic
So he ignored her boundaries, gas lit her when she complained about her boundary being trespassed, guilt tripped her into staying on the show, and then threw her out when he started to feel personly offended by her standing up for herself. HE needs therapy. HE'S an abuser He showed no empathy for her. Any psychologist knows that you cannot treat emotional trauma purely with logic. He just wanted to humiliate her in public. He's an awful person.
Such a good comment, I took a screenshot, and I will totally use it if I ever make a video on Dr phil, because no one could really say this better than you just did
@@Rose_Darkness__ I'm so sorry you had to go through that, especially at the hands of a therapist. I hope you've been able to heal from those experiences 🤗❤️
in defense of Dr. Phil and as someone who went to a show of his (2008), his conversations go on for a few hours with these guests. It may not seem like it, but these are cleverly edited. The one I saw in person and what went of TV was almost two entirely different incidents. So I think the producers only put on what can be used as "good television". But I will say your comment stands with what we are shown.
Girl: Acts like a mature adult with a justified emotional reaction. Doesn’t come across as rude, hostile, spoiled, or absolutely delusional. Dr Phil: “No. You weren’t supposed to do that.”
a guy gets killed for buying a chocolate bar.. then theres dr phil literally mentally scarring people and gets fucking rich from it.. why is this world so fucked up.
@ I think the specific medical term used there is not very important. Just replace it with “person suffering from delusions” if it makes you feel better.
The way she says "Y'all can laugh at me I will be your laughing spectacle" and her voice is breaking and "Dr." Phil just humiliates her even more wow. He is a monster. I am kinda dissapointed
@@mentallyunstable1926 He does possess a doctorate degree in clinical psychology, so by that metric he is a real doctor. What he doesn't have, and hasn't had for years, is a license to practice therapy. Phil McGraw is not a therapist; he's a showman. His legal team will tell you as much, though the man himself would likely deny it with his dying breath.
Whole scene is silly if she didn’t want to be made a spectacle of she should have gotten her treatment from a licensed therapist in private. And dr Phil shouldn’t pretend that he isn’t exploiting people’s past trauma for ratings.
As a non-American, the American obsession with televising everything including (purported) therapy is genuinely creepy as fuck. I like some hollywood movies and a lot of American music is good, but I hope we never get this kind of cultural export.
Wow. That is extremely dangerous. You can't challenge a delusion up front like that without establishing trust and empathy. I hope that girl found an actual therapist.
Exactly. Granted I'm not a therapist (Phil really isn't, either), but I've worked crisis/suicide intervention for years, and though we don't generally play into anything that may be outside of some actual "reality," we absolutely don't act antagonistic to it. If someone tells me the sky is red, me trying to convince them the sky blue isn't going to work, nor is it even helpful. Belittling someone who says that is even worse. Phil is a dumpster fire and always has been. This woman deserved so, so much better.
@@myjessicajourney1915 I also am not a therapist but I did take a few classes in college along with having broken with reality a few times due to my own mental illnesses and being neurodivergent. I can't speak for what this girl was going threw. I'm not going to pretend I know what made this break happen. In my own experience, it comes from not being able to deal with a mix of unending stress, depression, and burnout on top of not having access to mental healthcare as in the US it's still very much a luxury to get care. I think what happened is whatever was going on in Baily's life just kept compounding. It's clear she doesn't have a real support system of people in her real life who love and care for her. Pair that with the parasocial relationships that come from social media and this is what happens. I get the feeling that Baily had already been really into Jasmine's content before she had a mental and emotional snap with reality. That in my unprofessional option happened. Baily needed to feel like someone cared and because Jasmine was there making content that was comforting to Baily and in her mind wasn't just content being made by a creator but love letters to her threw that perceived deeper relationship that never existed. To be clear I do not blame Jasmine for this happening. She was just making makeup and fashion content online. Baily is to blame for her actions of stalking this poor woman. To the point, she reached out to the show most likely assuming that because its called Dr. Phil that Phil was a real therapist who could get Baily the help she needed. I don't think Jasmine did this to be crewl to Baily I think if anything its so sad that out of all the people in this womans life its the influencer she stalked who cared enough to want her to get help and not any of the people around Baily in real life.
Exactly. Most of the time, they stem from pre-developed mental illnesses and challenging a delusion is dangerous for so many reasons. If he knew what he was doing he wouldn’t have put his guest through this. Absolutely awful on his part
@@fondawebb4527 no, therapy from an unqualified and shitty person. you don’t need to be ableist to prove your point-especially when your point is that dr phil’s ableism is bad. narcissists (people with npd) are not inherently evil, abusive, or otherwise bad-not any more than people with any other mental health condition are. the idea that being a cruel person is a mental illness rather than a chosen pattern of behavior both lets people off the hook for being cruel (by insinuating it’s an inherent trait/disease) AND equates sickness with morality, which is a really gross and unproductive thing to do.
The only reason he even gets away with it is because hes not a licenced psychologist so these people dont count as clients and he can lie to them all he wants.
If it makes for good TV, heck yeah Phil will do it. This show is hard to watch because he is such a bully and they take the abuse because they are on TV on his dime.
I live in a different country, but I remember signing a bunch of forms to approve of my therapists talking to my parents when they were trying to diagnose me (autism) and again later during therapy (depression). They could not even contact anyone in my life, parents, friends, school, or even my physician without my signed permission. Not even when I was 15 and still lived with my parents. Of course, I considered it a mere formality since I had no issues sharing that information, but the fact is that they legally required my signature.
"Nobody tells me who to put on my show!" says the totally mentally healthy grown man to the mentally ill girl he brought on his show under false pretenses. He really thinks he has something to prove in this situation.
And a possible schizotypal personality disorder or another similar disorder. My brother in law has schizophrenia and he really struggles with it. His parents and siblings constantly berate, make fun of, yell at, and dismiss him and it INFURIATES me. The only time I've ever screamed at my sister in law was the time she screamed at him when he was in mid-delusion. You don't treat people who have mental health problems like they are circus animals or freaks. This episode always makes me think of my brother in law and how he is treated by his family. It's so bad that he looks up to my husband (his younger brother) as a father figure because my husband and I are the only 2 people who have genuinely loved him or held out a helping hand. I hate people who belittle others, especially if they are struggling with any type of disorder or trauma.
I'd like to see how he deals with a schitzophrenic... "oh you think the TV is talking you? Well I'm on TV and I'm telling you to get out of here, I don't tolerate delusions on this show".
"Dr." Phil is a monster. He preys on unhealthy people who expect he would help them. Instead, he turns them into a spectacle, appealing to people's schadenfreude and he publicizes so much sensitive info which should have remained private. If he were an actual psychologist, he would have been sued repeatedly for malpractice. However, because he's on TV, he has a huge team of lawyers to defend him and plausible deniability, which allows him to be essentially a serial abuser without consequences. I hope Bailey finds an actual therapist to help her escape her past.
There's a malevolent, almost biblical scapegoat-y vibe coming off this whole video (the parts we're shown anyway). Are all Dr. Phil's shows like this? Look at that girl's face. You can see her hurt and pain and fear - and at the same time there is zero sign of any human compassion or understanding from the "doctor." The audience here is being invited to condemn and to laugh at this "bad" person, they're being encouraged and enabled to do it, in fact - and not by some random but specifically by someone presented as a qualified authority figure. I actually feel nauseous having watched this. We think we're so enlightened these days, not feeding people to lions for entertainment anymore etc. but I dunno, man. And afterwards the audience gets to go home and feel good about themselves for not being a screwed up delusional stalker like that girl. Urrrrrrgh.
I always kinda just assumed it was a deal where you embarrass yourself on TV and Dr. Phil's show pays for you to get real help as part of you appearing. It's fucked up, but no more fucked up than the rest of the broken USA healthcare system.
Kudos to her, she remained calm and polite while he acted like a spoiled kid. Nothing she said was offensive and yet she apologized. I hope she gets all the help she needs from a real therapist.
Right?? Dudes such a loser, brings people with severe problems on his show, berates them the whole time but as soon as they say something he disagrees with he pulls the plug entirely. What a complete and utter loser.
It’s surprising people get all puffed up about stuff like Ellen show having mistreatment issues, like do people really believe any form of a TV show doesn’t have that? The whole industry is built on that, I’m certain a few month as a host of any show and the power absolutely gets to your head
@@kneal9203 she may be avoiding her cousin to make sure her mother does not find her. And avoiding social media for obvious reasons. Baileys mother is an epic narc like Phil, but maybe even nastier. Bailey needs to avoid her mother unless she gets a very convincing apology
I just want to say from the perspective of a person who has schizophrenia and has experienced very compelling delusions this is the absolute worst thing you can do for someone with delusions. This is called reality checking and it is a genuine technique. The problem is that reality checking is only helpful under certain conditions because it requires the person to be and, importantly, stay responsive to it through intense vulnerability. You need to understand that Bailey is essentially being told to accept that she can't trust her own thoughts, memories, or reasoning. That is an extremely hard thing to do. I can say with great certainty that Dr.Phil knows what he did was the incorrect course of action and did it to try to incite Bailey to be belligerent. Then when it didn't work he threw her off the stage. There is no compassion there, no mentality that Bailey's mental health is important, he doesn't want to help the mentally ill he wants to create a circus side show with a tent full of freaks where everyone can point and laugh. Side note: patients do absolutely have a say in any good mental health worker's clinical actions and decisions towards them the vast majority of the time. Because the patient and clinician should be on the same team and cooperation is incredibly important. If a patient were to request for a family member to not be involved, so long as it isn't essential to the treatment, that person would not be involved (with exceptions).
That makes a lot of sense. I was very good friends with a man with schizophrenia and I used to have to be very gentle with him bc he believed people were coming to his house to move items around. I instinctively knew NOT to disagree, instead listen empathetically and be there for him when he was having an episode.
"I'm gonna shut this down right now. I ain't about 'spectacle' or 'melodrama,' that's why I have a popular TV show where I invite people who are struggling with mental health and then pick them apart in front of a live studio audience."
I thought the exact same thing when he said that. He claims his show isn’t about spectacle and melodrama when it so clearly is. He was pissed off that she turned it back around on him and the audience and momentarily disempowered him and the narrative he was pushing.
Hearing and seeing her cry the words “I don’t live in fantasy land” just broke my heart. I wish this cancerous show would be cancelled. No telling how many families he’s affected in a negative way. My guess would be it would be equal to the positive affects his show has had.
I bet this show's done way more harm than good, I mean the whole point of it is to laugh at mentally unstable (often delusional), broken and hurting people. Oof
@@theoddestautist That's not the whole point. The real point is to try and help the troubled guests to see things more clearly and then accept the actual real therapy and whatever else they need that Dr. Phil always offers to sarrange them with the best resources in thecountry free of charge. And, also, by making it a tv episode may spread beneficial information about whatever problems it is about. But, I'm not saying it's not also morally wrong format in some ways. As it is obvious these episodes get heavily edited for entertainment purposes and there is the studio audience laughing and clapping which would be utterly unnecessary if this was only about helping and spreading awerness. So, I wouldn't judge this show as nothing but harmful, but also wouödn't praise it as innocent philantrophic work.
His pseudoscience he calls "therapy" is horrible for mental health awareness. He really never handles any situation correctly where someone may need real help. Kind of makes me angry. He doesnt deserve any recognition for this "practice", hes harming more than just the people going only the show that consent. Its hurt the real people who are watching this and suffering and how the public may treat mental health because of this.
Also thank you big joel for pointing out the manipulative behavior because this may help people notice this form of psychialogical warfare he is causing. This "therapist" doesnt deserve a license is he does shockingly have one.
She offended him by pointing out the audience laughing at her.... while she was on the verge of tears. So offended that she must be removed from his sight... Who's entitled now?
@@Blueeyesthewarrior It's not horrifying to Phil, he knows damn well what he is doing. He does not want his audience out there to be horrified by what he is doing. He needs to keep making those millions. He does not want his audience to face reality, Phil the quack long ago already did. Only that matters to him now, how can I keep this show going how can I make more money. And that is the case for all those shows, with a few basically blaming the people like Jerry Springer. Yeah it's their fault that they come on here and we abuse them.
@@numbdigger9552 ever heard of Stockholm syndrome? people in cults are brainwashed into thinking that their cult is the best and they’re living their best lives. and people in mentally and physically abusive relationships are 9 times out of 10 being emotionally manipulated and have been gaslighted into thinking their partner loves them and if they leave their partner will harm themselves. there are also cases where the person feels like their partner will potentially harm them and they feel scared to leave
@@shaylanikole3049 Addionally cults and narcissists are very good at isolating people. In a abusive Relationship there might be childeren involved or the abuser has control over the finances.
yo the cryptic pregnancy thing is actually a real mental condition with physical effects on the body. The brain CAN trick itself into creating the symptoms of pregnancy without actually being pregnant. Your stomach swells, periods stop, morning sickness occurs, etc. The fact that he spent the entire time deriding these women for a mental illness instead of treating it is straight-up nuts, I don't know how anyone can be that cold.
It’s believed that Queen Mary I suffered a phantom pregnancy, same symptoms as you said, she wanted a child so badly her brain convinced herself she was, it’s terrifying what your brain can convince the rest of your body to react to 🤭
Yeah, or there's something wrong in the patient's reproductive system. A family friend had undiagnosed ovarian cancer. At first, the pain was diagnosed as psychosomatic (aka "it's all in your head"). Eventually, she developed pregnancy-like symptoms: swollen belly, hot flashes, morning sickness (because the cancer had spread to her stomach)... Again, the doctors were too fucking busy to disprove her "delusions" to notice the malignant tumor growing inside her. By the time doctors finally caught on, she had only a few months left to live. There's no way to describe the absolute contempt I feel for the doctors and nurses who murdered a 27 year old woman because they were too fucking blind to see what was happening, and just called their victim delusional instead.
This reminds me of the time when he brung a woman on to his show that believed she was in a relationship with Tyler Perry (film director) the woman truly believed she was in a relationship with him, you could tell it in her eyes that she was in love with him; the woman was clearly mentally ill and needed help instead he told her she was a liar the whole time and questioned her sanity the whole time in a condescending tone. Of course it ended up being a catfish the whole time but he was just rude & nasty to a woman who was clearly suffering. I also believe the woman's husband might have died so that triggered what she was going through and he knew that yet he humiliated her the entire time oh and his audience clapped at every point he thought he was making making the woman feel even worse.
What really struck me was how smart and strong she was, considering the situation. She immediately called him out on inviting her biological mother, she saw right through his therapy facade to the truth of that being a circus with her as the monkey. Considering not only all the trauma she experienced but just the situation of facing an authoritative figure, in his turf and in front of television cameras, she was incredibly cognizant of what was going on and amazingly able to stand up for herself.
I think it also really exposes how fragile and weak Phil is. Even when he tried to control every aspect of his show, he still got completely owned to his face, where he cowardly canceled the interview to reclaim control over the interview/narrative. He's a terrible person, this is just a microcosm of the macro.
Saying he’s doing anything “clinically” is extremely upsetting. He doesn’t hold a license to treat or diagnose anyone. I went through similar trauma to this woman, and a similarly vulnerable stage after, although luckily I never had delusional thinking. I was paranoid and acted bizarre under stress, which is pretty normal considering what happened to me. I hope she’s ok now.
However she's doing now, she also has to deal with being recognized from this episode. Not getting support, but side eyes for being mean to this guy. I too hope she's doing better. Hope you are too, Hanna. And commenter above me.
I do not believe any real doctor would broadcast their patients or sick patients sickness for the world to see as if it is was a freakshow. In youtube, Dr K, a harvard psychiatrist listened to his patients problems and focusing on giving them solutions so that it may helped his audience. That took at least one to two hours. I hoped most of phil are faked.
He has a legitimate degree, but he breaks so many ethics rules. It's disgraceful. Here's a great article from Psychology Today regarding the ethics of media engagement by Psychologists. www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/naked-truth/201812/grand-rounds-dr-phil-can-psychologists-be-tv
This is literally gaslighting in action. Dr. Phil says no one tells me who I can have on my show. That’s not what she was doing. She’s not saying you can’t have my mother on the show she’s saying she would not have agreed to be there if she knew her mother would be there. His intentionally using deception to manipulate her.
Exactly. He makes her look and feel like a fool even though all of her complaints are legitimate and valid. Textbook gaslighting and that girl will likely have another trauma to bear after coming on this show.
His entire show is gaslighting. He brings people out with the pretense of helping them through their psychological problems only to berate them, humiliate them in front of a live studio audience, and accuse them of being the unreasonable one in the process.
Ah yes. I remember my first day in therapy when I was 17. I got the bus and tried to keep it a secret. I explained my traumas and expressed how my mother did not believe in mental health and was one of the causes of my eating disorder (she would make fun of my weight in public and buy clothes too small for me so I'd have to lose weight to wear them). The therapist made me wait outside while I was still crying. Called me back in and told me she's going to tell my mother because it's the best step forward. I've never panicked so hard in my life and to this day have never seeked therapy again.
that's so terrible. please don't discount all therapists because one so horribly betrayed you. it took me a few tries to find the right one, but my current therapist has helped me so much.
I would highly recommend trying some different therapists and let them know about that experience so you can find out if the different therapists will suit your needs
Yikes. I had the same experience from my mom and it also fueled an ED… I’m sorry you had to go through that as well and I hope you’re doing better now.
Honestly this was also my worst fear as a kid/teen/young adult. It may not be the best bit of advice but for anyone scared to go id recommend waiting until you are legally an adult, that way they legally cannot tell anyone you dont consent to.
I like that all he cares about is therapy and he proceeds to throw out the person getting therapy, like talking to Bailey's mom and not Bailey and never seeing Bailey again has some therapeutic benefit to Bailey
I love it when youtubers I watch show up in comments sections of other youtubers I watch. Makes the world feel small and cosy. 😊 Now about Dr Phil: I agree with your observation, nothing to add here. He doesn't care about the well-being of his guests at all.
He quit being a licensed therapist to focus on practicing real, proven therapy. I believe it was Gerhardt Adler who first proposed the reconstruction of the dysfunctional superego via a 90-minute daytime television taping.
Yeah. Like no shit they’re ‘delusional’. That’s why they’re schizophrenic. I wish people like dr Phil weren’t rubbing it in as if the person didn’t already know. It’s so redundant and it only makes things worse ):
I suffer from Paranoia personality disorder it's not the we leave in a fantasy land paranoid people have irrational thought process like you see a guy in all black and think okay of it, people like me see them and think they are going to kill us, there is so much stigma against people like me people treat having Paranoia automatically makes you a bad person
@@GarlicGrinder9 telling a delusional that they are delusional will get them angry at you, to help delusional people get better you have to have them trust and feel safe around you
Guest: As a child, I was regularly beaten and isolated from the other children, and in addition, I rarely had anything to eat. Dr Phil: Yeah, yeah, I heard you the first time, but let me get this straight. You're unemployed?
Dr. Phil: "YOU may live in lala land but I DO NOT." Werner Herzog: "I look into your eyes and I see no recognition, no kinship, just the cruel indifference of nature and maybe a half bored interest in food."
But he'll spend twenty f*cking minutes stating that he would never allow a victim and their abuser to be in the same room unless the victim wants it to happen. That sentence should take less than a minute to say, though in these episodes, he egotistically rants for ten minutes about it.
he did... but it was worse, he forced a CSA victim to hug her abuser all because he "passed a lie detector test" (lie detectors arent even real.) its disgusting.
I'll never forget the episode where he had a family on the show where the daughter as a child claimed her father had abused her and the mother believed her and removed the father from their lives. Now as an adult, they go on the show. Dr Phil has the dad take a lie detector test (which are inaccurate and in no way are usable in court. you can literally take classes to pass them) and supposedly he had passed and that was proof he never abused the daughter. The mom and daughter are crying and Dr Phil is like, "This is good news! Your father never touched you! You can have him back in your life now!" And the mom is a wreck and asks to be tested too. In this full breakdown, they test her and she, of course, doesn't pass because she's already in a full breakdown! And they tell her she failed the test. And is trying to get the daughter to hug her dad. WTF!!!
@@isabelladunne1069 Sadly, yes; he got a PhD in clinical psychology from University of North Texas in 1979. I'm sure he was respectable back in the day, but he has clearly lost his way since then.
I’ve always hated Dr. Phil so much, that he is one of the media figures whose continued presence and prestige truly baffles me. It’s literally beyond comprehension to me how anyone can watch the actual content and thinks that the guy is actually right somehow. Like, I get that there’s a huge thing about seeing “deluded”, arrogant or entitled people getting “comeuppance” by having someone, often in a sarcastic and deliberate mean way, just “tell them like it is”. Basically every stage/talent audition shows are 80% that. Having Gordon Ramsay tear someone to shreds because they thought they baked the best cake, but then their caked sucked it’s like a collective catharsis - We see people like that always, and if only we could, we would be like Ramsay. At least, that’s the appeal for the people watching, even if it might not work for me and you. But, regardless of what one may think about shiting on the head of someone who sings bad or who cooks bad for daring to think otherwise, those are still MILES from a “therapist” who grills people who need help in their personal lives. Because I don’t need to be a therapist to know that what he does is the opposite of therapy - Literally took me one consult with an actual therapist to know that. And like, what does shit like that does for the broader societal perception of “therapy”/how to deal with interpersonal problems? Because I think it throws the concept back 100 years or more. I have 0 doubts that if it wasn’t something that would actually result in problems for him, 2 out of 3 Dr. Phil episodes would end with him sending someone to Bedlam for having an episode of the “humors” or some shit. Prescribing blood drainage via leeches for dealing with phlegmatic temper. Because it definitely is this bad. He acts straight up as a sanatorium director, not a modern psychotherapist. It’s the closest thing we have to “mental health anti-vax”. At least, closest thing so far… tl;dr - i fucking hate dr phil so much holy shit
I think the worst part is that the only way Phil's background in psych comes into play here is when he's weaponizing it to manipulate a 21-year-old survivor while triggering the f*ck out of her PTSD for the entertainment of his audience.
Phil said there was "no chance in hell" he would have ever spoken to Bailey without her mother being there... and the producer said she advised Bailey she "didn't know" whether she'd be there - doesn't make sense. They're obviously lying and definitely set her up. Gross.
My therapists had to get my written signature to talk to my parents, classmates, teachers, or my physician when I first started therapy at age 15, and subsequently at regular intervals (once per year, I think) and when a new therapist took over. True, I don't live in America, but I thought that was standard practice.
The plan was obviously always to have the mom there, not for ethical reasons, just for the drama. What Phil said about needing to have her present was a lie, he was just trying to pretend he was somehow doing the right thing as a therapist (which doesn't even make sense anyway cause she's 21). It's just funny because by saying that he exposed the lie given what he'd also made the producer say. Their stories don't match up.
i can’t believe that Dr. Phil stated all these traumatic triggering things that this girl went through in front of an audience like it was some grocery list and then he found that SHE offended him??? i hope that girl is doing better now :(
Something I didn’t see stated before but should be mentioned: as far as I can see in these clips, she’s calm, relatively polite, and never raises her voice and yet THIS is his reaction.
Did u see he said "friend" with Air quote gestures what does that even mean? Why did he do that without an inch of sympathy on his face. He said that in a sarcastic tone like it was nothing.
Apparently she is not. The Dr Phil's promise of offering additional help for the clients is just hogwash. Supposedly she is doing just as bad if not worse than before. (From another commenter who said they were the friend of Bailey's cousin)
Yeah, I've tried to go through with PTSD therapy for rape and abuse. It was incredibly difficult and I never went through with it because it hurts so bad to think about because you relive it. The closest i got to having a good therapist was one who decided to ease me into it with why I have a skin-picking compulsion and even that was too much because it's linked to other traumas because it evolved into a coping mechanism for everything, regardless of scale. You can't put all of someone's pain on blast all at once in front of an audience and then belittle them. This was painful to watch. Even though she was a horrid stalker, she's still a person and they literally tortured her
Yeah solid one phil, ridiculing a traumatized rape victim in front of a live audience surely will go a long way to help her mental state like she needs actual therapy and this was the exact opposite
there is a way to handle this but he just don't care. some people after all their pain or issues, still have enough strength to share it with others so it's not like there's no value but Dr Phil is useless haha.
i had a shitty therapist who acted a lot like dr phil. she’d be like “well you can always leave” when she’d emotionally abuse me and try to “give me an out” but making it clear i didn’t have a choice. she’d say things like “well just because you’re upset doesn’t mean i have to think it’s right (to be upset)” anyway i reported her to that state’s board (she did some other stuff including violating the privacy of other patients and myself. but her emotional abuse was also brought to the board’s attention) that behavior isn’t okay from a therapist in private and especially not for the world to see on national television
I was friends with a therapist for years (not my own), and he was one of the most manipulative and abusive lunatics I ever met. Needless to say his job was making it easier for him to do this since he can learn everybody's everything every time he goes to work and how to use it against people in their personal lives.
Even if he were just a bad mental health provider, his behavior here is straight up unethical. Honestly, his whole show is unethical. But he did drop his license to avoid getting it taken away due to unethical behavior, so I suppose we shouldn't be surprised.
@@andyblanton6570 About? His show violates the ethical principles of Beneficence, Integrity, Justice and Respect for People's Rights and Dignity. Re: Beneficence: Dr. Phil doesn't "strive to benefit those with whom [he] work[s] and take care to do no harm". "When conflicts occur among psychologists' obligations or concerns, they attempt to resolve these conflicts in a responsible fashion that avoids or minimizes harm. Because psychologists' scientific and professional judgments and actions may affect the lives of others, they are alert to and guard against personal, financial, social, organizational, or political factors that might lead to misuse of their influence." Dr. Phil humiliates people on television for the entertainment of his audience; any help they receive is tangential to that goal. Re: Integrity: "Psychologists seek to promote accuracy, honesty, and truthfulness in the science, teaching, and practice of psychology. In these activities psychologists do not steal, cheat or engage in fraud, subterfuge, or intentional misrepresentation of fact. Psychologists strive to keep their promises and to avoid unwise or unclear commitments. In situations in which deception may be ethically justifiable to maximize benefits and minimize harm, psychologists have a serious obligation to consider the need for, the possible consequences of, and their responsibility to correct any resulting mistrust or other harmful effects that arise from the use of such techniques." Dr. Phil and/or his staff plausibly misled this woman about the presence of her biological mother. Re: Justice: "Psychologists recognize that fairness and justice entitle all persons to access to and benefit from the contributions of psychology and to equal quality in the processes, procedures, and services being conducted by psychologists. Psychologists exercise reasonable judgment and take precautions to ensure that their potential biases, the boundaries of their competence, and the limitations of their expertise do not lead to or condone unjust practices." Dr. Phil was clearly biased about this woman, and he showed them repeatedly. Re: Respect for People's Rights and Dignity: "Psychologists respect the dignity and worth of all people, and the rights of individuals to privacy, confidentiality, and self-determination. Psychologists are aware that special safeguards may be necessary to protect the rights and welfare of persons or communities whose vulnerabilities impair autonomous decision making." Dr. Phil brings people on TV to be berated about their issues. If he actually cared about their dignity he'd never do that, but he wants to make money. I suspect you're not disagreeing in good faith, based on your lack of any attached points, so I won't be responding further. Everything in quotes was taken from the American Psychological Association's code of ethics, which you can learn more about here: www.apa.org/ethics/code.
Exactly, it's actually important to aknowledge at various points that you only have hypotheses to work with, strong and supported and they may seem, that you're not all powerful and that you don't have all the answers. It not only humanizes the therapist and subtly gives back some of the power back to the patient, but is also ACTUALLY FUCKING TRUE. I always tell my patients that even if I may have more knowledge about psychology, psychotherapy and general human behaviour than they do, they have much more knowledge about themselves, and that's the VASTLY more important factor. I will be the one learning (about them) much more than they will be in our relationship. And I DO learn from my patients every day. Nobody has better words and ways to express what they're going through in their condition than they themselves do.
@@Feamelwen Though if you're actively doubting the effectiveness of your therapy then that would mean it to be adverse to administer such. Especially treating delusional clients it could be as important if not more important to assert the reality of the situation and provide a therapeutic framework through which the deluded themselves may even approach let alone understand what is happening, however hypothetical that framework may be. There are studies showing the effectiveness of just the approach which is why for most neurotic predicaments seem to benefit roughly equally no matter the therapeutic school. (As long as it is applied and administered by a capable therapist of course.)
@@ionioakinioanette5729 No, it's not about doubting your own capabilities or the therapy. You always believe in the possibility, big or small as it may seem, for the patient to get better on their own terms, sooner or later, eventually. This is not negotiable to me. If you don't utterly, sincerely believe that that possibility always exists for every patient, you don't form authentic professional relationships with patients. However, absolute certainty coming from the therapist can be just as toxic, veering into toxic positivity. It's a delicate balancing act, but doubt is extremely important, including with patients with delusions. Leaving room for doubt doesn't mean reinforcing their delusions, it means validating their subjective experience. Abruptly and adamantly confronting them with the "facts" when they're delusional is completely useless. Leaving room for doubt means letting them know that they're human too, and that's okay. And since a lot of therapies use, at least to some degree, the person of the therapist to model and offer an alternative way of being, that means admitting that the therapist is human too, and knows doubt. And yes, I agree, most meta analyses do show that the authenticity of the relationship matters far more than the specific technique or school of thought used in the therapy. And since there can be no autheticity without doubt, once again, doubt is absolutely essential. It just has to be used in small doses, for instance, of course, therapy is not about pouring your doubts and axieties onto the patient to overwhelm them.
This shit constantly and consistently happens in the south and no one's batting an eye lol, the way Dr. Phil acts towards the people he brings on is exactly the way I was treated because I had ADHD, so imagine everyone else with an ACTUAL DISABILITY in the south, shit is not fun down here
@@spicynoodles2742 Bold of you to assume the goal of the show was/is ever therapy. He hasn't had a license for 15 years, has done no CE, and participants have to sign disclaimers that his suggestions are merely advice. Not to mention he's got a PhD, not a Psy. D. People who go for a PhD focus more on theory, experimental design, collating and interpreting data, and how best to present that data. If it's clinical practice a person wants,.they usually go for a Psy D. The Psy D puts a lot more focus on patient interactions and practical application of theories in order to treat patients. A similar example is an MD vs an MD/PhD. Being.in an MD program, there is an enormous emphasis on examination skills, chasing down a diagnosis, and adminstering treatmenr. The last two years are almost entirely clinical. A friend of mine in a dual program sacrifices some of that clinical experience in favor of experimental design and everything else that comes with a focus on conducting research. Not to minimize the amount of work it takes to get that PhD or "poo poo" their contributions, just saying I wouldn't be surprised if Dr. McGraw was behind the curve when it comes to clinical application. He spent most of his career on advising leagal teams in the first place.
And yeah. Good point. Bailey saying “you can all laugh at me” basically breaks the 4th wall. The audience might actually evaluate their behavior and say “omg I’ve been laughing at a poor girl with real issues all because the applause sign turned green” so dr Phil is clearly threatened by that. I think threatened by her in general. He’s been trying to get her off the stage since she got up.
Yea as soon as phill new she was upset at the show he knew she had to go before she broke the fourth wall. honestly I’m surprised he didn’t think of some excuse to kick her out immediately
@@jostockton. that's the point. the audience knows on the surface that its nonfiction, but they treat it like fictional entertainment. she is not actually breaking the fourth wall, she is reminding them that she is real.
Something worse is that this experience might have scared Bailey from ever talking to a REAL therapist in the future. So she might not ever get the help she needs.
Imagine going to your therapist and there’s a crowd there and the therapist just starts listing off traumatic events in your life in a very matter of fact way in front of like 100 people
And the worst part is that he's too stupid to make the connection that "hey, MAYBE her problems now may have SOMETHING to do with her coping with all of that shit I just brought up? Like she's believing in this fantasy with this stranger because that's the one way she can pretend to have a positive relationship in her life." But no, he just goes right back to "lolshutupyasillycrazy" like the assclown he is. This guy is a fucking abuser. Lied to get her their in the first place, bluntly makes her relive her trauma, then scolds her when she has the audacity to push back against any of his bullshit.
@@ktownshutdown21 it’s traumatizing to even watch, honestly I can’t begin imagine how traumatic it was for her. No one should be treated like that especially for the sake of entertainment.
@@La_br00tal_mija not my point at all. I was trying to point out how this is not how therapy works. People are naive or can’t afford real therapy and go to dr Phil for help when he’s just a tv personality and does more harm than good.
“These women come here to feel better about themselves in their depressing mediocrity by mocking irregular people and you pointing that out hurts their feelings! Get out of my temple!”
The audience complicity in this video is so apperant and most disturbing to me. They all have that condescending look shaking their heads while Dr. Phil just talks shit about her in in a way that would get anyone disbarred.
@@harrycooper5231 As someone who grew up in America, this behavior is everywhere, in almost any authoritative system there is. It's absolutely disgusting the amount of gaslighting and false narratives to corral people into believing them. So many victims get entangled.
The more I've looked into this the more it makes me sad. This woman clearly wasn't okay. The harassment of the beauty influencer shouldn't have happened because its clear this was a reaction to trauma and could have been avoided if people had just given a shit about Baily. It seems like the only person who wanted Baily to get help and cared about her was the woman she was stalking online.
As someone who didn't grow in America I gradually started seeing America as a materially rich country that is morally and ethically bankrupt, it seems a big portion of Americans and first worlders in general have become detached and have little to no empathy down to an almost sociopathic level. I've never been so uncomfortable as the time I was in New York, there was a dead homeless man in the street and no one gave a shit and kept strolling, Dr Phil's fixation that human worth is attributed by employment is a reflex of North American society, a society in where if you don't profit or give someone profit then you're subhuman.
Cause if he wasn't the audience would end up sympathizing with her and realize how bad a person Phil is for trying to make bank off of someone's trauma. So he slapped it down and painted her as a delusional kid who didn't know any better.
@@PoggoMcDawggo yeah totally! I had never watched anything with him before and I'm surprised by how manipulative and unpleasant he comes across, I can't believe he has such a big audience
@@eli3845 It's the late 20th/early 21st century equivalent of the Victorians going to Bedlam Hospital and poking the patients with a pointed stick. It's side-show freak entertainment without even the decency of a circus gives with giving the "freak" a paycheck.
“Dr.” Phil: I believe you have DEREALIZation disorder (which is the feeling of the things and people around you not being real) “Dr.” Phil two seconds later: *berates her for living in a fantasy world*
IKR Therapy is a slow process where you help the person bring out their trauma themselves not shove it down their throats in front of a laughing audience adnksbfksbfjdhfdj
while the guy is totally turned away from you and not interested in being even slightly sympathetic or hearing how you feel about it. and if you try to say anything he makes you the problem. he should put their current interaction on the fucking trauma list
She was aware enough to see that she was being abused my the production team and him, not to throw big words but there is literally a power dynamic that “Dr.” Phil explicitly tried to make apparent to her.
@@joeybradley4352 The kind of “crazy” that is a treatable condition that needs to be respected and treated with care instead of abject humiliation (though let’s be honest, you would be hard pressed to find someone for whom being on Phil’s show was actively productive and healing)
Words cannot express how much I despise """Dr""" Phil McGraw. He is a terrible, awful person, whose entire livelihood rests on making struggling people into a point-and-laugh freakshow, all under the guise of "helping" and "straight talk." No wonder he isn't liscensed to practice in ANY state. The bit where he chastises her for being "melodramatic" and tries to tell her that he and the audience are here to help, not laugh, just infuriates me beyond belief. Of course the *studio audience* that just applauded and laughed when you told her she lived in "Fantasy Land" only has her best interests in mind. You are a better man than I, Joel, because I think you went too easy on him.
Also how ironic was that accusation of melodrama when he goes on to ... melodramatically ... boot her off the show? Is it not melodrama because it's a "doctor" in a suit with a penis and a position of authority and not an emotional young woman? Is that it? I feel like that's it. I am kind of fucking raging over this actually.
The moronic clapping seals in the audience are equally terrible, this is just a faux genteel form of bear bating. How easily crowds are controlled by the directions of an imbecile, it just makes the young lady the brightest person in that room. As for the viewership- sometimes dumb is too dumb to realise just how dumb dumb is.
I truly wonder if an actual licensed phycologist was on the show and was able to write a small essay about him what would happen? A lot of people would Stan and simp Dr. Phil, but some would probably listen.
As someone who watches this show a lot because my dad ends up having it on during the day, he generally gets SUPER touchy about people mentioning or interacting with the audience. And ESPECIALLY SO if they make any sort of reference to this being a television show meant to showcase and exploit their issues. I don't think this old man will ever understand how awful it is for a regular person to have their paper graded in front of a crowd.
The thing is, if this was like,,, ACTUALLY therapy, Bailey's 21 so her mother's presence isn't needed. Thus his insistence on her being there, even after she expressed discomfort is gross.
Even for minors, therapists still need consent from the minor for most parental involvement except in very special cases as far as I know (reasonable suspicion of the chance or hurting self or others or if it has already been done, and the standard for reasonable suspicion is generally very high and has to be imminent I think)
@@kaiceecrane3884 It is. They're not supposed to have any parental involvement unless there is consent from the patient. Any time they don't do so, they're breaking guidelines. There is supposed to be consent in some form from the minor to have actual involvement and they should only be there in small instances where they wish to "say anything" but most times it should be private except for then unless the therapist has something to tell them without disclosure of what you spoke about.
If I'd been in her position, with the mother issue, I would have used email or something to make sure I got that shit in writing, and then pulled it up on Dr Fuckface for trying to bullshit me 😠
Her apology about her emotional outburst is so sad because it shows she was never allowed or given a safe place to express her emotions at all. She’s afraid her emotions will offend others around her and so she allows herself to be an emotional punching bag because she feels she can take it. Just to save the audience and doctor Phil from feeling guilty about doing so. Such a gross up situation I’m glad you brought to my attention.
Also him talking about her bio-mom being her "responsible parent". It feels so patronising and demeaning. Regardless of any mental health issues, Bailey is an adult who has a right to not be forced to interact with someone who upsets her, and doesn't need a "responsible parent"
How ironic mr Phil actually is. Because when it would be good for him, he will tell his subject the exact opposite. If there would be one grown-up sitting on the chair who is in no capable of taking care of itself, he would nag about how the person is an adult who shouldn't be taken care of by other people. Just how it fits him, and only himself best, and nothing else.
Wait, waht the heck? I tought she was literally a teenager, the way he is talking with her. You telling me he talks like that to another adult? And speaks about "who's responsible for her"? The man's an even bigger asshat than I tought, dear god
I've noticed the show going downhill like this recently. They had a young man on who was a very successful college graduate, nice house, nice life, but he was OBVIOUSLY majorly depressed. he slept on the couch because "the walk up the stairs wasnt worth it". His family was oblivious and called him lazy and when he came on the show Dr. Phil just kept poking fun at the "ridiculously easy things" that the man should be doing, and the audience and the family were laughing. no mention of depression and they brought in a LIFE COACH who got offended when the young man said he wasnt sure about cutting his hair, telling him he's not serious. It made me fume and im so done with that show. they are literally making a spectacle of mentally ill people and adding on more stigma
Ever since the official UA-cam channel opened the comments, the sheer number of commenters who could see that he was obviously depressed upset me. We all could have collectively helped him more than Dr. Phil.
ua-cam.com/video/akU7JTcOeKk/v-deo.html absolutely disgusting. I have a really hard time believing that shouting "I DON'T CARE" repeatedly at a severely depressed person when they tell you about their issues or telling someone that the only reason that they're like that is because they lack motivation and that they only need to try harder is a good or helpful approach in any way. It Is incredibly dangerous to deny and neglect someone's feelings like that and the fact that Phil doesn't even notice how bad it really was is borderline terrifying to me considering the sheer amount of patients he has. The guy seemed really nice and willing to get help and he realizes that he has a problem that needs to be fixed. The fact that he has a degree and went to uni and stuff proves that he isn't naturally that lazy so it is clearly something more than just lack of motivation. He doesn't need some rich dude-bro telling him that all he needs is new shoes and a haircut to be completely okay again and a fifty year old guy with anger management issues screaming at him that his feelings and invalid and that he's just like that because he tells himself that he isn't worth it. He needs real help from real professionals ("Dr" Phil literally hasn't renewed his licence to legally be a psychologist since 2006) and a supporting family who doesn't laugh in his face and calls him lazy when he tries to explain how he feels. sorry for such a long rant but I hope at least some of it made sense I wish everyone who reads this and the guy I'm referring to all the best in life and remember that it always gets better
@@potato7918 I actually hadn’t seen that specific clip and it’s HORRIFYING the way Phil was yelling at him after he accurately laid out his issues and questions. From how the guy was describing it sounds like executive dysfunction, which is easy to spot if you’re a real therapist. Yelling I DONT CARE at him to finish the 10 percent of his work just doesn’t do anything. He probably yells that at himself everyday.
I seen that episode too. I was also very angry with how they handled the young man. I go through times myself where I am just too damn depressed to go out or get out of bed. It's an overwhelming feeling. If I had gone to a therapist and ended up being laughed at, berated, or called lazy over "simple" tasks, I would feel so defeated and ashamed. It would only make me feel more worthless! I can't believe Dr. Phil's show is still around, it's giving people the wrong perception of how mental illnesses should be viewed and treated. Anyway, ty for this comment, I feel like you really worded that well, and I just wanted to say I completely agree. It's good to hear that people finally SEE some of this stuff!
could you imagine if you were in a real therapist's office and in the middle of you talking they put a flashing alarm graphic up on a giant screen and just started shouting "COMMON SENSE ALERT! COMMON SENSE ALERT!"
I can’t imagine having all my worst, most traumatic events read out to me like that on TV while someone ridicules me for being unstable what the fuck... I feel so bad for Bailey
Ok so, Bailey's not a minor right? She's an adult who can come and go as she pleases so how would her mother be on the show unless someone contacted her? This feels like that whole "responsible parent" thing was just appealing to a sense of parental authority that his audience might have.
It absolutely was. The way he belittles her and then says "I wouldn't speak to her without her responsible mother" to that woman? I immediately felt uncomfortable.
Exactly. She's 21, she didn't need a parent there in the slightest. It's possible to have a legal guardian responsible for certain decisions if you are diagnosed by a REAL therapist to be unfit to make them, but this was clearly not the case. They just knew she had a bad relationship with the mother and wanted someone there who could talk about how "crazy" she was.
Besides, even if she was a teen, it's not unusual for there to be conflict or bad blood with bio parents. Not wanting to have her mother on the show was a completely normal and acceptable demand, especially considering she's an adult in her own right.
I had a therapist like him, who cared more about being right and being the smartest person in the room than actually getting me help. I not only quit seeing them, I reported them and got them fired because you can't treat your patients that way. It's very dangerous to be propping someone like Dr. Phil up, because it's bad practice. You can't tell someone who is having delusions that they're wrong, they won't believe you. You can't mock a depressed person for being lazy. You can't talk down and gaslight your patients just so they don't make you look bad in front of other people. Dr. Phil's tactics range from useless to dangerous and it's concerning that he's profiting off of what is essentially gossip and drama under the guise of 'mental health treatment'.
It sucks that there are a handful of therapists like him. I dealt with one as a teen. My mom was manipulative at the time and my therapist at the time always took her side never once asked my side just assumed my mother was telling the truth and I was always the troubled child 100% in the wrong 100% of the time. One time she even yelled at me throwing f bombs in front of my mother and a colleague who was shadowing her that session. I guess she wanted to puff her chest and flex her authority or whatever but I still think back at that day and think how fucked up and unprofessional she was that day.
@@rosxjun a sad fact is that many therapists have a hard time keeping their own biases out of their sessions--if they're right, they're right, and you need to get over it (or at least that's what they think). Having been in the middle of the American mental health care system for a decade, it's sad how many people will go into it for the wrong reasons, and how few actually even try to understand it. I hope you're doing better now, I had a similar experience when I was younger. I'm fortunate to have a good therapist now and I hope you found one too eventually.
@@KupKate215 I'm sorry you went through your bad experience as well. It's further depressing when the people who are there to help you do the exact opposite. I've known very good ones since then fortunately. I hope you have as well. My mother and I are on good terms now (I'm 32) I hope you are also in a better place as well. I definitely wouldn't wish my bad experiences on my worst enemy that's for damn sure
I had therapy with a very prominent psychologist that was kind of like Dr. Phil and it was around the time of his greatest popularity. Maybe Phil’s show has influenced people to believe that his style is the hallmark of quality care.
I remember I watched Pewdiepie a lot when I was younger, and was pretty far into the epic gamer "facts don't care about your feelings" mentality, and watched and enjoyed a lot of his Dr. Phil reactions. But the time he reacted to Bailey's episode was the first time it clicked for me that it's more complicated than just pointing out a delusion, being rude and getting a crowd to laugh at you to magically fix trauma, and that these people aren't just "crazy people", but deeply broken individuals in need of help, and for the first time in my life, the mental dissonance around mental health as a whole kinda started to fade for me. After that, I slowly started to see the show for what it was, an exploitation of the broken and the mentally ill in possibly the most dystopian way you could imagine.
@@samandchelsea1754 any therapist with compassion would never agree to do a therapy session on national tv, regardless of any perceived "good intentions". it's not just the laughter that makes this into spectacle, it's literally the whole damn structure of "watching a real person who is psychologically suffering" being filmed and then distributed as a piece of media. the solution to this type of tv is absolutely not to make more of it, it's to not have it at all.
It's kind of traumatic to look back at Dr Phil content because I grew up with this garbage playing on tv all week at home. Our parents often used it to point out what we, the kids, did wrong. Dr Phil used his platform to belittle survivors while being an authority for parents to look to. He's had a terrible influence on way too many people.
"You may be living in fantasy land, but I'm not." Honestly, that one line sums it up. Bailey is suffering with delusions, according to Dr. Phil and he says THAT to her? Wow. Just, wow. How cruel.
i'm schizophrenic and experience delusions myself and this is such a disrespectful thing to say to someone suffering from things like that. it can destroy your life and he undermines it by making it seem like crippling delusions that take you entirely out of reality are just "living in fantasy land" and not severe mental health problems. it's awful
@@mosspiglets7667 I can imagine, I don't suffer with them myself but I can have empathy for those who do, it seems Dr. Phil doesn't have one ounce of it.
Well Dr. Phil thinks "most of these people are all just lazy and making excuses to not work more than they have something wrong in the mind.". Also he brings people on to the show, insults them for being unemployed, insults them for their behavior without getting to the root of the problem, does this for the world to see and makes millions off of it and thinks that's okay. So yes Dr Phil is also living in fantasy land.
@@mosspiglets7667 as a nurse who works with people who deal with all types of delusions, one of the first things we are taught is to not deny them. The fact that this man is some sort of mental health "professional", makes me so mad
@@ibuproblem1058 yeah he's definitely using people's mental health to make a profit off of it on the show..it's sick. And the "ranch" he used to send kids to is being sued for child abuse.
@@mickeyboy90 Dr. Phil is the "sophisticated" version of the drama shows like "Maury Povitch" where they bring people out to yell at each other and then cut to the audience gasping, and then read out the paternity results. Dr. Phil has the same elements except he only uses polygraphs, no paternity tests. And he somewhat reins in the yelling, and says he doesn't want a spectacle, yet he loves to show guests storming off and then footage of them backstage after they storm off. And he usually protects kids' privacy but not always. He offers treatment programs for after the show, but I've heard that the program often falls through or is unsuccessful, and he only does a follow-up if it was successful. It's definitely a freak show and it's sad because I think mamy people go on because they're desperate and want the help that he offers, but they have to get humiliated first. Others just want the attention of being on TV. But he has this illusion of sophistication because he's a psychologist and pretends the show is about mental health.
I've seen guests get upset over the audience's laughter many times on the show, and Phil gets mad EVERY time, saying "There laughing at the absurdity of the situation, not at you, so don't get sanctimonious with me".
Dr.Phil lives in the "fantasy land" of thinking his show is anything but creating a spectacle of his guests, so that others can gawk and laugh. He is just upset at being called out about it, upset that he and the audience are being confronted with the reality of what the show does.
Yuuup. Its why he turned into such a baby the moment she was preempting the response, cause the wrestling match he's slated to win doesn't pad his ego if the opponent tells the crowd that the fight is rigged and its all an act. How else is he supposed to feel superior about his totally not a carnival sideshow and his role as the barker profiting off the 'freaks'?
yeah this is actually a pretty good view on what happens in his head psychologically. lol he was threatened and he reacted. hey - dr. phil, maybe you should interview yourself????
And you know what, maybe it's fine for him to create a spectacle out of his guests for the entertainment of others, but doing so as a supposed " trained professional" and to market that as helping his guests deal with their issues and remedy them? That's just despicable
He thinks he’s so rational and kind by snarking and RANTING at all these mentally ill people with his “witty” remarks. So when someone calls out the messed up nature of his show he turns into a big crybaby. Pathetic.
Who would do a therapy session on national television with an audience that laughs and applauds? That’s not therapy. It’s a perverse form of entertainment.
I believe that the people who go on the show are only there for the free counseling afterwards. Unfortunately going on the show makes that actual therapy needed even more.
@@evertonc1448 the "everything is getting worse" fear mongering is and has always been a thing. Before tech, there was posters, before ink there was people who stood on the corner and yelled. Things aren't getting worse. It's just that those who aren't aware of how things are, now have to face the reality of others outside their bubble. And then there are things everyone is aware of, being over dramatized. Because when you're scared, you're rash and stupid. You're more easily controlled. I'm not a history major, but from what little I know of humanities story plots. This is just a repeat with better graphics.
this makes me feel so uncomfortable. we treat dr phil like a silly old man, or a meme, but a lot of his content and behavior is harmful for the audience and straight up diabolical toward his subjects.
we have empirical proof that criticizing and/or ridiculing patients / clients is detrimental and stops therapy working... WHO THE HECK NEEDED PROOF but anyway we have it! we have it!
Oh, don't worry, he does plenty of horrible shit off camera as well. Just ask his many sexual misconduct victims, like the students he harassed causing his license to practice psychology to be revoked in Texas.
I had to skip all the clips from the show cause they made me feel so fucking awful lol I remember watching this shit as a kid and ofc as a kid I never saw anything abusive but now, hooooooy boy :D
Crazy how "Dr." Phil got so defensive and butthurt about that woman having a breakdown about being turned into a spectacle. Because he *knows* she's calling him out
"You say you're a spectacle, but that's not what I'm about?" Um...yes it is... That's literally all you have ever been about. Have you ever thought televising bad therapy is anything else?
The cold expression on his face when she called him out says everything about what his show is doing. That was gaslighting in action, it gives me chills.
Translation: _I'm not into you making my audience uncomfortable by correctly pointing out that my show makes a spectacle out of the people I bring on instead of actually getting them real help._
I’m a clinical psychologist and I physically cringe while watching dr. Phil, most of it is the opposite of what you’re supposed to say.. stopped watching it very quickly after starting. The psychologist is supposed to have zero ego in this situation, it’s not about them, it’s all about the client..
Yea It also makes me sad how people might have mental health problems and would want to go to therapy but the only thing of how it looks is Dr. Phil. So they are justifiably terrified and never go. There still is a stigma around mental health professionals and patients and this stuff doesn't help.
as a fellow psychologist, "cringe" is the least of the fucking problems with this. It's cynical, it's exploitative as fuck, it's a huge betrayal of the trust that people who come on the show put in him, it's toying with and making fun of vulnerable people who have asked for help, and it's probably incredibly damaging not only to the people who show up on the show (let me just list all your trauma's for everyone to see in order to explain why you're a silly child who lives in fantasyland lmaooo), but also to a lot of people who just watch it. He turns people's mental health issues into entertainment, thereby reinforcing the image of people with mental issues as wacky and goofy and crazy, which is pretty horrible as is, but then in the process he also totally screws up their idea of what getting help is supposed to look like. Imagine being a troubled 21 year old going on Dr. Phil and coming away with the idea that going to therapy entails having some insecure old man humiliate you in front of people and then tell you to either fuck off or say thank you sir. I honestly kind of hope dr phil will burn in hell someday.
The fact that she even agreed to come to the show, reveals that she was at least aware that she had some issues, and that the situation could no continue as it was. Meaning she was not (or at least not entirely) living in "fantasy land"
“You don’t dictate what I do from a clinical standpoint”. No. That’s not how it works. You always have the ability to say no to your doctor and they should always respect that
@@FrancisR420 no that's not how it works, patients can refuse certain treatments and options that doctors present. doctors are not in charge of patients.
Someone like Bailey shouldn’t have been on tv to begin. This is like a real mental illness situation. The bonus gaslighting and hostility is a cherry on top.
@@4Abaddon4 And also, a lot of these people are probably desperate for any semblance of help, or for the monetary compensation they (most likely) receive for their appearance.
Dr. Phil: "You live in fantasy land. I'm going to mock you instead of helping you for cheap laughs." Crowd: "woooo! Yeah, fuck helping that chick. We're just here to gawk at crazies!" Also, that girl did not play the game Phil requires all his victims to play, and he could tell she might be a problem for him so he sent her away. Real "professional" behaviour there.
I was abused by my therapist for two years. Due to certain circumstances, she had complete control over my healthcare and large influence over my family. Phil's behaviour here--the gaslighting, the acting offended for the slightest questioning, the mocking--hits extremely close to home. My ex-therapist is now fortunately out of the field, but I feel for this girl, going through the same in front of millions of people who point and laugh at her suffering and drink up her trauma for entertainment.
I'm sorry you had to go through that. I also had a therapist who emotionally manipulated me and gaslighted me. Given her position she completely had the upper hand. It's so eerie seeing the way Phil acts on the show because it's the way she acted to a t. It's so sad that these kinds of people exist in a field where care for the patient is the primary objective.
@@Blueskiesnclear He has a point. Kotaku is still seen as journalism and Keemstar's shit is somewhat better. However terrible he may be, Keem is still more of a journalist than Dr. Phil is a therapist.
This shit always reminds me why i keep rewatching Kitchen Nightmares when i want over dramatic reality TV. A fucking chef has more empathy for people violating safety standards than this supposed "therapist"
1st principle of all health practitioners is this: Do no harm. People who study psychology and act like this doesn't apply to them disgust me, and doubly so if they dare call themselves "Doctor"
Dr. Phil is a lot like Dr. Oz. Occasionally, by pure chance, he actually helps someone, but most of the time being a literal snake oil salesman would be more helpful, because the placebo effect is actually pretty strong.
you cannot conduct ethical effective therapy in one session that you broadcast to millions of strangers to watch and judge. dr phil isnt a therapist, hes a bully with a phd.
@@jeyyran he has a Ph. D in clinical psychology. He stopped renewing his license to practice in 2006 so he has no authority to diagnose or treat anyone.
I hate “Dr.” Phil so much. You can’t “debunk” people’s delusions because by definition, delusions are something people believe regardless of how many facts go against them. They are deeply held beliefs that defy reality and cannot simply be dissipated with “facts and logic”. He knows that. I know that he 100% knows that. He doesn’t “debunk” these people’s delusions with any intent on actually getting through to them. He is doing so for the entertainment of the audience so they can laugh at the crazy people who don’t realize how obviously wrong they are. It’s a modern day freakshow poorly disguised as something akin to therapy.
Yeah, I have a hard time watching him because it's so cringe watching him talk to mentally ill people. These people need meds and real doctors; you don't ask a person with broken legs how not walking is "working out for them?" Mental illness isn't bad personality traits, they're symptoms of malady. I hate that mental illness is treated like 'Haha, look at this freak!" when the scientific reality is that they're not capable of thinking any other way without help. This is like modern day Bedlam: people go to laugh at the mentally ill for entertainment.
@@Droemar I think this show - and the way it makes a spectacle and joke of people's mental illness for profit - is going to be looked back on in the future the same way we look back on old circus freak shows and acknowledge how cruel it was that people with physical disabilities or differences were put on display for others to laugh at.
"Debunking" is, and always will be, something that people do for entertainment of people who already agree with you. Be it delusions, conspiracy theories or religions, the chance of actually convincing anybody through this sort of antagonistic approach is infinitesimal. If anything, it's more likely to only reinforce their beliefs. And I don't mean to say that "debunking" is always bad. It's a fun thing to do sometimes, I love me some Captain Disillusion, it can be an interesting and intellectually challenging activity to engage in. But we shouldn't pretend like it's actually doing any good in solving problems or conflicts. You won't convince a woman with delusions of pregnancy with a piece of plastic any more than you could prove the existence of god to an atheist by citing an old book. Facts may not care about my feelings, but the fact is, the feeling is mutual. My feelings don't care about facts either. And I feel that no fact can change that.
@@Michoss9 preach that!! I always hated the "facts dont care about your feelings" argument, it always just felt like an excuse to be awful and then write it off as being logical and levelheaded, while casting the other person off as crazy and overreacting. I think that bit about feelings also not caring about facts is really well put, because people seem to forget that. It's true that facts don't care about feelings, but feelings don't care about facts either, and people like Dr Phil dont seem to understand that
Not to mention any real clinical psychologist would tell you that by trying to debunk a delusion, you only reinforce it and make you as seen as part of the problem. The delusional person puts you in the camp of "other", "enemy", "deceiver". You can't build trust on that, and you can't help a person without trust.
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Where do you get those great sweaters?
"lied"? Thinking too much about Dr. Phil?
@@miguel09211994 ditto!
Haha, yes, I lied it very much! :)))
"Nobody turns their trauma into a spectacle on my show. That's my job."
Yeah. It's patently absurd that a man with a TV show even pretends that he isn't about the spectacle. It literally what he's about. If there's no spectacle, there's no show.
Someones trauma is someone else's form of entertainment..
@@klaustrophobic3643 Though, taste dictates that you either have it be fictional people with trauma... or kings in a "historical production" that contains almost none of the "history" part and entirely relies on the "production" part
... "Oh shit, I'm in a graveyard... time for my incredibly funny dead body/skeleton puppetry bit where I do my take on Spanish theatre! Just before seeing that girl I'm a total piece of shit towards again, after my Uncle attempted to get me killed in a way I don't remember well--Pirates were involved though!"
The audience buys into the exploitative premise of the show the moment they purchase tickets. It's what enables such blatant hypocrisy. I don't believe he's not aware of this, somewhere in his soul. He must know. Ratings are his sole, threadbare, corrupted form of redemption.
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Imagine going to a therapist and then when you say “I’m sad” they’re so offended by that they make you leave.
Patient: Hey I feel like you’re making fun of me and my situation and that makes me uncomfortable-
Therapist: Alright get the fuck out of my office
He's not licensed to be a therapist in his state, iirc he lost his license in texas and can't have one. When you go onto his show you have to sign papers saying you acknowledge you shouldn't take any advice.
He's just a piece of shit lol.
@@waterdragon2.08 so he’s a doctor in the sense that Prager U is a university?
@@WeDwellinaFiefdom Yeah pretty much, he has a ph.d in psychology but that doesn't necessarily mean hes a therapist, or a good one!
That literally happened to me. I asked my psychiatrist to explain my diagnosis and he told me to get out and prevented me from seeing any other practitioner forcing me to stay on meds that made me psychotic
So he ignored her boundaries, gas lit her when she complained about her boundary being trespassed, guilt tripped her into staying on the show, and then threw her out when he started to feel personly offended by her standing up for herself.
HE needs therapy. HE'S an abuser
He showed no empathy for her. Any psychologist knows that you cannot treat emotional trauma purely with logic. He just wanted to humiliate her in public. He's an awful person.
Such a good comment, I took a screenshot, and I will totally use it if I ever make a video on Dr phil, because no one could really say this better than you just did
@@Rose_Darkness__ I'm so sorry you had to go through that, especially at the hands of a therapist.
I hope you've been able to heal from those experiences 🤗❤️
in defense of Dr. Phil and as someone who went to a show of his (2008), his conversations go on for a few hours with these guests. It may not seem like it, but these are cleverly edited. The one I saw in person and what went of TV was almost two entirely different incidents. So I think the producers only put on what can be used as "good television". But I will say your comment stands with what we are shown.
@@redstarthunder12 interesting, thank you for your insight!
I feel terrible for her and I hope that she sees a REAL therapist. Not some TV personality who finds joy and money from insulting people
Girl: Acts like a mature adult with a justified emotional reaction. Doesn’t come across as rude, hostile, spoiled, or absolutely delusional.
Dr Phil: “No. You weren’t supposed to do that.”
Absolutely.
a guy gets killed for buying a chocolate bar.. then theres dr phil literally mentally scarring people and gets fucking rich from it.. why is this world so fucked up.
People are still mocking Bailey. I just saw a clip of her here and all of the comments were negative towards her
@@jojones4685most people are very mean to people with delusions
“You may live in a fantasy world but I do not” -Dr Phil to a schizophrenic because they hurt his ego
that’s the whole show at this point
It's so horrible
Callum, can you please define Schizophrenia for me, because I dont think you know what it is. Please do it without looking it up.
@ I think the specific medical term used there is not very important. Just replace it with “person suffering from delusions” if it makes you feel better.
@ I think the comment is more a general jab at Dr Phil's approach rather than the specific situation.
The way she says "Y'all can laugh at me I will be your laughing spectacle" and her voice is breaking and "Dr." Phil just humiliates her even more wow. He is a monster. I am kinda dissapointed
@@mentallyunstable1926 He does possess a doctorate degree in clinical psychology, so by that metric he is a real doctor. What he doesn't have, and hasn't had for years, is a license to practice therapy. Phil McGraw is not a therapist; he's a showman. His legal team will tell you as much, though the man himself would likely deny it with his dying breath.
@@kingalfred2014 you're a goddamn poet oh my god
@Katie P. I don't think it was revoked, but he just failed to renew it when he stopped practicing since he was doing TV instead.
it's hard for me to watch this
Dissapointed, or disgusted?
“We’re not about making a spectacle of this”
He says in front of several cameras under studio lights and in front of an audience.
Legitimately unbelievable. Like, *what*?
And he claims he does not live in a fantasy land
Whole scene is silly if she didn’t want to be made a spectacle of she should have gotten her treatment from a licensed therapist in private. And dr Phil shouldn’t pretend that he isn’t exploiting people’s past trauma for ratings.
Making a spectacle of themselves would be if they were drawing attention to themselves in a ridiculous way. They were not doing that.
As a non-American, the American obsession with televising everything including (purported) therapy is genuinely creepy as fuck. I like some hollywood movies and a lot of American music is good, but I hope we never get this kind of cultural export.
Wow. That is extremely dangerous. You can't challenge a delusion up front like that without establishing trust and empathy. I hope that girl found an actual therapist.
Exactly. Granted I'm not a therapist (Phil really isn't, either), but I've worked crisis/suicide intervention for years, and though we don't generally play into anything that may be outside of some actual "reality," we absolutely don't act antagonistic to it. If someone tells me the sky is red, me trying to convince them the sky blue isn't going to work, nor is it even helpful. Belittling someone who says that is even worse. Phil is a dumpster fire and always has been. This woman deserved so, so much better.
@@myjessicajourney1915 I also am not a therapist but I did take a few classes in college along with having broken with reality a few times due to my own mental illnesses and being neurodivergent. I can't speak for what this girl was going threw. I'm not going to pretend I know what made this break happen. In my own experience, it comes from not being able to deal with a mix of unending stress, depression, and burnout on top of not having access to mental healthcare as in the US it's still very much a luxury to get care.
I think what happened is whatever was going on in Baily's life just kept compounding. It's clear she doesn't have a real support system of people in her real life who love and care for her. Pair that with the parasocial relationships that come from social media and this is what happens. I get the feeling that Baily had already been really into Jasmine's content before she had a mental and emotional snap with reality. That in my unprofessional option happened. Baily needed to feel like someone cared and because Jasmine was there making content that was comforting to Baily and in her mind wasn't just content being made by a creator but love letters to her threw that perceived deeper relationship that never existed.
To be clear I do not blame Jasmine for this happening. She was just making makeup and fashion content online. Baily is to blame for her actions of stalking this poor woman. To the point, she reached out to the show most likely assuming that because its called Dr. Phil that Phil was a real therapist who could get Baily the help she needed.
I don't think Jasmine did this to be crewl to Baily I think if anything its so sad that out of all the people in this womans life its the influencer she stalked who cared enough to want her to get help and not any of the people around Baily in real life.
Exactly. Most of the time, they stem from pre-developed mental illnesses and challenging a delusion is dangerous for so many reasons. If he knew what he was doing he wouldn’t have put his guest through this. Absolutely awful on his part
This is truly disturbing. The worst kind of therapy. Therapy from a malignant narcissist😔.
@@fondawebb4527 no, therapy from an unqualified and shitty person. you don’t need to be ableist to prove your point-especially when your point is that dr phil’s ableism is bad.
narcissists (people with npd) are not inherently evil, abusive, or otherwise bad-not any more than people with any other mental health condition are.
the idea that being a cruel person is a mental illness rather than a chosen pattern of behavior both lets people off the hook for being cruel (by insinuating it’s an inherent trait/disease) AND equates sickness with morality, which is a really gross and unproductive thing to do.
You're actually not allowed to inolve a parent without the client's consent, sooo
The only reason he even gets away with it is because hes not a licenced psychologist so these people dont count as clients and he can lie to them all he wants.
That’s why you should always read your contract 🤷🏻♀️
Also, she is an adult and should probably be treated as such.
If it makes for good TV, heck yeah Phil will do it. This show is hard to watch because he is such a bully and they take the abuse because they are on TV on his dime.
I live in a different country, but I remember signing a bunch of forms to approve of my therapists talking to my parents when they were trying to diagnose me (autism) and again later during therapy (depression). They could not even contact anyone in my life, parents, friends, school, or even my physician without my signed permission. Not even when I was 15 and still lived with my parents.
Of course, I considered it a mere formality since I had no issues sharing that information, but the fact is that they legally required my signature.
"I don't live in fantasyland." --guy who hasn't renewed his license to practice psychological therapy since 2006.
He's larping as a therapist
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Exactly!
He doesn't have a practice any more. He doesn't need a license to do his show. They know this going in.
Dr. Phil playing the victim while telling someone not to play the victim
"I've had enough of your drama!" he said, dramatically
"Nobody tells me who to put on my show!" says the totally mentally healthy grown man to the mentally ill girl he brought on his show under false pretenses. He really thinks he has something to prove in this situation.
... after listing the traumatic events in which she *was* the victim
Look the good doctor clearly said he doesn't want any part in it. I for one take him at his word. Fuck my lying eyes.
He is such a manipulator, I take anyone liking his show as a yellow warning flag.
Bailey actually showed tremendous dignity in this interview. I hope she is in a good place now.
she died
"I'm not going to let you play the victim" he says to a literal victim.
Yes!
And a possible schizotypal personality disorder or another similar disorder. My brother in law has schizophrenia and he really struggles with it. His parents and siblings constantly berate, make fun of, yell at, and dismiss him and it INFURIATES me. The only time I've ever screamed at my sister in law was the time she screamed at him when he was in mid-delusion. You don't treat people who have mental health problems like they are circus animals or freaks. This episode always makes me think of my brother in law and how he is treated by his family. It's so bad that he looks up to my husband (his younger brother) as a father figure because my husband and I are the only 2 people who have genuinely loved him or held out a helping hand. I hate people who belittle others, especially if they are struggling with any type of disorder or trauma.
I'd like to see how he deals with a schitzophrenic... "oh you think the TV is talking you? Well I'm on TV and I'm telling you to get out of here, I don't tolerate delusions on this show".
Exactly my thoughts!
i think the victim might be the woman she was stalking......
"Dr." Phil is a monster. He preys on unhealthy people who expect he would help them. Instead, he turns them into a spectacle, appealing to people's schadenfreude and he publicizes so much sensitive info which should have remained private. If he were an actual psychologist, he would have been sued repeatedly for malpractice. However, because he's on TV, he has a huge team of lawyers to defend him and plausible deniability, which allows him to be essentially a serial abuser without consequences. I hope Bailey finds an actual therapist to help her escape her past.
Great use of schadenfreude
@Incel Kingdom Agreed. Definitely sounds like a narcissist, potentially even a sociopath.
There's a malevolent, almost biblical scapegoat-y vibe coming off this whole video (the parts we're shown anyway). Are all Dr. Phil's shows like this? Look at that girl's face. You can see her hurt and pain and fear - and at the same time there is zero sign of any human compassion or understanding from the "doctor." The audience here is being invited to condemn and to laugh at this "bad" person, they're being encouraged and enabled to do it, in fact - and not by some random but specifically by someone presented as a qualified authority figure. I actually feel nauseous having watched this. We think we're so enlightened these days, not feeding people to lions for entertainment anymore etc. but I dunno, man. And afterwards the audience gets to go home and feel good about themselves for not being a screwed up delusional stalker like that girl. Urrrrrrgh.
I always kinda just assumed it was a deal where you embarrass yourself on TV and Dr. Phil's show pays for you to get real help as part of you appearing. It's fucked up, but no more fucked up than the rest of the broken USA healthcare system.
It didn't start like this, but yes this is what the show is. It's a top shelf Jerry springer. It's daytime TV trash dressed in nice clothes.
Kudos to her, she remained calm and polite while he acted like a spoiled kid. Nothing she said was offensive and yet she apologized. I hope she gets all the help she needs from a real therapist.
According to one of her cousins in the comments, she has gone missing since the show
@@kneal9203 Really ? I hope she's ok :/
Right?? Dudes such a loser, brings people with severe problems on his show, berates them the whole time but as soon as they say something he disagrees with he pulls the plug entirely. What a complete and utter loser.
It’s surprising people get all puffed up about stuff like Ellen show having mistreatment issues, like do people really believe any form of a TV show doesn’t have that? The whole industry is built on that, I’m certain a few month as a host of any show and the power absolutely gets to your head
@@kneal9203 she may be avoiding her cousin to make sure her mother does not find her. And avoiding social media for obvious reasons. Baileys mother is an epic narc like Phil, but maybe even nastier. Bailey needs to avoid her mother unless she gets a very convincing apology
I just want to say from the perspective of a person who has schizophrenia and has experienced very compelling delusions this is the absolute worst thing you can do for someone with delusions. This is called reality checking and it is a genuine technique. The problem is that reality checking is only helpful under certain conditions because it requires the person to be and, importantly, stay responsive to it through intense vulnerability. You need to understand that Bailey is essentially being told to accept that she can't trust her own thoughts, memories, or reasoning. That is an extremely hard thing to do. I can say with great certainty that Dr.Phil knows what he did was the incorrect course of action and did it to try to incite Bailey to be belligerent. Then when it didn't work he threw her off the stage. There is no compassion there, no mentality that Bailey's mental health is important, he doesn't want to help the mentally ill he wants to create a circus side show with a tent full of freaks where everyone can point and laugh.
Side note: patients do absolutely have a say in any good mental health worker's clinical actions and decisions towards them the vast majority of the time. Because the patient and clinician should be on the same team and cooperation is incredibly important. If a patient were to request for a family member to not be involved, so long as it isn't essential to the treatment, that person would not be involved (with exceptions).
That makes a lot of sense. I was very good friends with a man with schizophrenia and I used to have to be very gentle with him bc he believed people were coming to his house to move items around. I instinctively knew NOT to disagree, instead listen empathetically and be there for him when he was having an episode.
"I'm gonna shut this down right now. I ain't about 'spectacle' or 'melodrama,' that's why I have a popular TV show where I invite people who are struggling with mental health and then pick them apart in front of a live studio audience."
“Now go home after I degraded and humiliated you in front of millions of people.”
Right, like the first time I heard him say that I was like " . . . is this not television you're on? Is this not why you're here?"
I thought the exact same thing when he said that. He claims his show isn’t about spectacle and melodrama when it so clearly is. He was pissed off that she turned it back around on him and the audience and momentarily disempowered him and the narrative he was pushing.
Hearing and seeing her cry the words “I don’t live in fantasy land” just broke my heart. I wish this cancerous show would be cancelled. No telling how many families he’s affected in a negative way. My guess would be it would be equal to the positive affects his show has had.
She DOES live in fantasy land, but yeah she needs mental help, not to be laughed at.
Remember that Oprah gave this fraud his start.
I bet this show's done way more harm than good, I mean the whole point of it is to laugh at mentally unstable (often delusional), broken and hurting people. Oof
@@theoddestautist That's not the whole point. The real point is to try and help the troubled guests to see things more clearly and then accept the actual real therapy and whatever else they need that Dr. Phil always offers to sarrange them with the best resources in thecountry free of charge. And, also, by making it a tv episode may spread beneficial information about whatever problems it is about. But, I'm not saying it's not also morally wrong format in some ways. As it is obvious these episodes get heavily edited for entertainment purposes and there is the studio audience laughing and clapping which would be utterly unnecessary if this was only about helping and spreading awerness. So, I wouldn't judge this show as nothing but harmful, but also wouödn't praise it as innocent philantrophic work.
It's what my abusive parents would tell me when I cried after they berate me for forgetting to do the dishes
His pseudoscience he calls "therapy" is horrible for mental health awareness. He really never handles any situation correctly where someone may need real help. Kind of makes me angry. He doesnt deserve any recognition for this "practice", hes harming more than just the people going only the show that consent. Its hurt the real people who are watching this and suffering and how the public may treat mental health because of this.
Also thank you big joel for pointing out the manipulative behavior because this may help people notice this form of psychialogical warfare he is causing. This "therapist" doesnt deserve a license is he does shockingly have one.
@@ashh.9637 Well, he doesn’t even have a licence is the thing
@@literallygaston2489
Yeah, didn't he lose it?
@@literallygaston2489 wait fr! Thats even worse T_T but im honestly not surprised. Just glad the license distributors are upholding certain standards.
Perhaps the new name for his show could be... -Dr.- Fail
Phil is literally gaslighting this girl on television and people are like “yeah she’s the problematic one”
She offended him by pointing out the audience laughing at her.... while she was on the verge of tears. So offended that she must be removed from his sight... Who's entitled now?
It's so fucking disgusting
It points out the abject cruelty of his show, and that realization is horrifying to him.
@@Blueeyesthewarrior Right! He couldn't face that reality so he must have her removed from his sight.
@@Blueeyesthewarrior It's not horrifying to Phil, he knows damn well what he is doing. He does not want his audience out there to be horrified by what he is doing. He needs to keep making those millions. He does not want his audience to face reality, Phil the quack long ago already did. Only that matters to him now, how can I keep this show going how can I make more money.
And that is the case for all those shows, with a few basically blaming the people like Jerry Springer. Yeah it's their fault that they come on here and we abuse them.
He's always been entitled.
"If you aren't happy, you're free to leave."
-Every cult leader on a crime show ever
Every person in an abusive relationship have heard that
@@nanda-re2yp well just leave then
@@numbdigger9552 Great solution Dr. ass ass, I wonder why more people haven't thought of that.
@@numbdigger9552 ever heard of Stockholm syndrome? people in cults are brainwashed into thinking that their cult is the best and they’re living their best lives. and people in mentally and physically abusive relationships are 9 times out of 10 being emotionally manipulated and have been gaslighted into thinking their partner loves them and if they leave their partner will harm themselves. there are also cases where the person feels like their partner will potentially harm them and they feel scared to leave
@@shaylanikole3049 Addionally cults and narcissists are very good at isolating people. In a abusive Relationship there might be childeren involved or the abuser has control over the finances.
yo the cryptic pregnancy thing is actually a real mental condition with physical effects on the body. The brain CAN trick itself into creating the symptoms of pregnancy without actually being pregnant. Your stomach swells, periods stop, morning sickness occurs, etc. The fact that he spent the entire time deriding these women for a mental illness instead of treating it is straight-up nuts, I don't know how anyone can be that cold.
It’s believed that Queen Mary I suffered a phantom pregnancy, same symptoms as you said, she wanted a child so badly her brain convinced herself she was, it’s terrifying what your brain can convince the rest of your body to react to 🤭
Yeah, or there's something wrong in the patient's reproductive system. A family friend had undiagnosed ovarian cancer. At first, the pain was diagnosed as psychosomatic (aka "it's all in your head"). Eventually, she developed pregnancy-like symptoms: swollen belly, hot flashes, morning sickness (because the cancer had spread to her stomach)... Again, the doctors were too fucking busy to disprove her "delusions" to notice the malignant tumor growing inside her. By the time doctors finally caught on, she had only a few months left to live.
There's no way to describe the absolute contempt I feel for the doctors and nurses who murdered a 27 year old woman because they were too fucking blind to see what was happening, and just called their victim delusional instead.
yeah like Will's ex wife from glee
Also known as a ''Phantom pregnancy'' this 'Dr' Phil is literal human garbage.
This reminds me of the time when he brung a woman on to his show that believed she was in a relationship with Tyler Perry (film director) the woman truly believed she was in a relationship with him, you could tell it in her eyes that she was in love with him; the woman was clearly mentally ill and needed help instead he told her she was a liar the whole time and questioned her sanity the whole time in a condescending tone. Of course it ended up being a catfish the whole time but he was just rude & nasty to a woman who was clearly suffering. I also believe the woman's husband might have died so that triggered what she was going through and he knew that yet he humiliated her the entire time oh and his audience clapped at every point he thought he was making making the woman feel even worse.
What really struck me was how smart and strong she was, considering the situation. She immediately called him out on inviting her biological mother, she saw right through his therapy facade to the truth of that being a circus with her as the monkey. Considering not only all the trauma she experienced but just the situation of facing an authoritative figure, in his turf and in front of television cameras, she was incredibly cognizant of what was going on and amazingly able to stand up for herself.
I think it also really exposes how fragile and weak Phil is. Even when he tried to control every aspect of his show, he still got completely owned to his face, where he cowardly canceled the interview to reclaim control over the interview/narrative. He's a terrible person, this is just a microcosm of the macro.
dr. phil doesn’t talk to his guests, he presents them to the audience
Roll up, roll up
Modern day human zoo. Despicable.
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@@rippspeck It's called a "Freak Show" and they've been around forever.
Strong 'Truman Show' vibes. Yikes.
Saying he’s doing anything “clinically” is extremely upsetting. He doesn’t hold a license to treat or diagnose anyone. I went through similar trauma to this woman, and a similarly vulnerable stage after, although luckily I never had delusional thinking. I was paranoid and acted bizarre under stress, which is pretty normal considering what happened to me. I hope she’s ok now.
I did too, around her age. I think if anyone had treated me, in the aftermath, the way Phil treated Bailey, it would have destroyed me.
However she's doing now, she also has to deal with being recognized from this episode. Not getting support, but side eyes for being mean to this guy.
I too hope she's doing better. Hope you are too, Hanna. And commenter above me.
I do not believe any real doctor would broadcast their patients or sick patients sickness for the world to see as if it is was a freakshow. In youtube, Dr K, a harvard psychiatrist listened to his patients problems and focusing on giving them solutions so that it may helped his audience. That took at least one to two hours. I hoped most of phil are faked.
He has a legitimate degree, but he breaks so many ethics rules. It's disgraceful.
Here's a great article from Psychology Today regarding the ethics of media engagement by Psychologists. www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/naked-truth/201812/grand-rounds-dr-phil-can-psychologists-be-tv
@@philippschwarz4539 i thought his degree was outdated?
This is literally gaslighting in action. Dr. Phil says no one tells me who I can have on my show. That’s not what she was doing. She’s not saying you can’t have my mother on the show she’s saying she would not have agreed to be there if she knew her mother would be there. His intentionally using deception to manipulate her.
much of what he did was gaslighting
Exactly. He makes her look and feel like a fool even though all of her complaints are legitimate and valid. Textbook gaslighting and that girl will likely have another trauma to bear after coming on this show.
His entire show is gaslighting. He brings people out with the pretense of helping them through their psychological problems only to berate them, humiliate them in front of a live studio audience, and accuse them of being the unreasonable one in the process.
Helena Šváchová it’s really sad and nauseating how eagerly he re-traumatized this poor woman.
he's doing this to someone who _just_ fucking told him that she was an abuse victim
he's fucking evil
Ah yes. I remember my first day in therapy when I was 17. I got the bus and tried to keep it a secret. I explained my traumas and expressed how my mother did not believe in mental health and was one of the causes of my eating disorder (she would make fun of my weight in public and buy clothes too small for me so I'd have to lose weight to wear them). The therapist made me wait outside while I was still crying. Called me back in and told me she's going to tell my mother because it's the best step forward. I've never panicked so hard in my life and to this day have never seeked therapy again.
I’m so sorry! How are you now? That’s not normal behaviour from a therapist, if you want to try again.
that's so terrible. please don't discount all therapists because one so horribly betrayed you. it took me a few tries to find the right one, but my current therapist has helped me so much.
I would highly recommend trying some different therapists and let them know about that experience so you can find out if the different therapists will suit your needs
Yikes. I had the same experience from my mom and it also fueled an ED… I’m sorry you had to go through that as well and I hope you’re doing better now.
Honestly this was also my worst fear as a kid/teen/young adult. It may not be the best bit of advice but for anyone scared to go id recommend waiting until you are legally an adult, that way they legally cannot tell anyone you dont consent to.
I like that all he cares about is therapy and he proceeds to throw out the person getting therapy, like talking to Bailey's mom and not Bailey and never seeing Bailey again has some therapeutic benefit to Bailey
Yes this!!!
I love it when youtubers I watch show up in comments sections of other youtubers I watch. Makes the world feel small and cosy. 😊
Now about Dr Phil: I agree with your observation, nothing to add here. He doesn't care about the well-being of his guests at all.
I love you
He quit being a licensed therapist to focus on practicing real, proven therapy. I believe it was Gerhardt Adler who first proposed the reconstruction of the dysfunctional superego via a 90-minute daytime television taping.
You know someone's a good therapist when they're immediately hostile to their patients and have no interest in engaging with them.
Saying “you live in a fantasy land” to a person who is schizophrenic (or delusional) won’t do anything, it is just plain mean.
Yeah. Like no shit they’re ‘delusional’. That’s why they’re schizophrenic. I wish people like dr Phil weren’t rubbing it in as if the person didn’t already know. It’s so redundant and it only makes things worse ):
He said that for an applause. Its not about bailey.
I suffer from Paranoia personality disorder it's not the we leave in a fantasy land paranoid people have irrational thought process like you see a guy in all black and think okay of it, people like me see them and think they are going to kill us, there is so much stigma against people like me people treat having Paranoia automatically makes you a bad person
Or itll make their delusions worse because they think they're in reality. They draw false interpertations.
@@GarlicGrinder9 telling a delusional that they are delusional will get them angry at you, to help delusional people get better you have to have them trust and feel safe around you
Guest: As a child, I was regularly beaten and isolated from the other children, and in addition, I rarely had anything to eat.
Dr Phil: Yeah, yeah, I heard you the first time, but let me get this straight. You're unemployed?
"Wait, now you're fat? You need to get on my diet program!"
"Stop playing the victim and being so entitled"
Dr Phil: "You are not a dog"
Boomer: "Yes I am.... woof"
@@Tazzie1312 and I see you starting to wrinkle, try Robin’s cream. That’s why she has smooth skin. It’s definitely not her extensive plastic surgery.
Dr. Phil: "YOU may live in lala land but I DO NOT."
Werner Herzog: "I look into your eyes and I see no recognition, no kinship, just the cruel indifference of nature and maybe a half bored interest in food."
Hes the kind of guy to make the victim and the bully hug
But he'll spend twenty f*cking minutes stating that he would never allow a victim and their abuser to be in the same room unless the victim wants it to happen. That sentence should take less than a minute to say, though in these episodes, he egotistically rants for ten minutes about it.
This says it all. I never thought about it before now but you are exactly right.
he did... but it was worse, he forced a CSA victim to hug her abuser all because he "passed a lie detector test" (lie detectors arent even real.) its disgusting.
I'll never forget the episode where he had a family on the show where the daughter as a child claimed her father had abused her and the mother believed her and removed the father from their lives. Now as an adult, they go on the show. Dr Phil has the dad take a lie detector test (which are inaccurate and in no way are usable in court. you can literally take classes to pass them) and supposedly he had passed and that was proof he never abused the daughter. The mom and daughter are crying and Dr Phil is like, "This is good news! Your father never touched you! You can have him back in your life now!" And the mom is a wreck and asks to be tested too. In this full breakdown, they test her and she, of course, doesn't pass because she's already in a full breakdown! And they tell her she failed the test. And is trying to get the daughter to hug her dad. WTF!!!
That's... disgusting, revolting, horrible, and just in general _malpractice_ .
Yeah um is he an actual doctor because he 10000000% should not be
@@isabelladunne1069 Sadly, yes; he got a PhD in clinical psychology from University of North Texas in 1979. I'm sure he was respectable back in the day, but he has clearly lost his way since then.
Why tf hasn't this been cancelled. We can get ellen cancelled but not this abysmal shit? Btw not defending ellen in any way.
I’ve always hated Dr. Phil so much, that he is one of the media figures whose continued presence and prestige truly baffles me. It’s literally beyond comprehension to me how anyone can watch the actual content and thinks that the guy is actually right somehow. Like, I get that there’s a huge thing about seeing “deluded”, arrogant or entitled people getting “comeuppance” by having someone, often in a sarcastic and deliberate mean way, just “tell them like it is”. Basically every stage/talent audition shows are 80% that. Having Gordon Ramsay tear someone to shreds because they thought they baked the best cake, but then their caked sucked it’s like a collective catharsis - We see people like that always, and if only we could, we would be like Ramsay. At least, that’s the appeal for the people watching, even if it might not work for me and you. But, regardless of what one may think about shiting on the head of someone who sings bad or who cooks bad for daring to think otherwise, those are still MILES from a “therapist” who grills people who need help in their personal lives. Because I don’t need to be a therapist to know that what he does is the opposite of therapy - Literally took me one consult with an actual therapist to know that. And like, what does shit like that does for the broader societal perception of “therapy”/how to deal with interpersonal problems? Because I think it throws the concept back 100 years or more. I have 0 doubts that if it wasn’t something that would actually result in problems for him, 2 out of 3 Dr. Phil episodes would end with him sending someone to Bedlam for having an episode of the “humors” or some shit. Prescribing blood drainage via leeches for dealing with phlegmatic temper.
Because it definitely is this bad. He acts straight up as a sanatorium director, not a modern psychotherapist.
It’s the closest thing we have to “mental health anti-vax”. At least, closest thing so far…
tl;dr - i fucking hate dr phil so much holy shit
The fact he acted so offended when she said "I can be your spectical" when she's LITERALLY ON A TV SHOW MEANT FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES
That’s why he got so angry because she was calling out the whole thing as a farce and performance not any kind of helpful experience
I was surprised she didn't respond with, "then why did you invite me on this show to publically mock me?"
I think the worst part is that the only way Phil's background in psych comes into play here is when he's weaponizing it to manipulate a 21-year-old survivor while triggering the f*ck out of her PTSD for the entertainment of his audience.
wow, I didnt see that till now. thing is "just entertainment" is a lie passed off by phil to get away with this legally.
@@davidtaylor142Some people do this
Usually Mr.Phil just disengages awkwardly or acts deeply offended
Phil said there was "no chance in hell" he would have ever spoken to Bailey without her mother being there... and the producer said she advised Bailey she "didn't know" whether she'd be there - doesn't make sense. They're obviously lying and definitely set her up. Gross.
The producer lied. They probably train them to say they "don't know" in those situations
He mentions multiple times about her doing something without her mum knowing
She’s 21..... she’s an adult. Wtf
My therapists had to get my written signature to talk to my parents, classmates, teachers, or my physician when I first started therapy at age 15, and subsequently at regular intervals (once per year, I think) and when a new therapist took over.
True, I don't live in America, but I thought that was standard practice.
The plan was obviously always to have the mom there, not for ethical reasons, just for the drama. What Phil said about needing to have her present was a lie, he was just trying to pretend he was somehow doing the right thing as a therapist (which doesn't even make sense anyway cause she's 21). It's just funny because by saying that he exposed the lie given what he'd also made the producer say. Their stories don't match up.
@@LadyDoomsinger In the states at the age of 13, they can only contact your parents, or anyone else, with your written consent
Phil is to therapy as Tucker Carlson is to journalism.
Telling the God's honest truth with FACTS?
(I'm just fucking with you. Fuck them both right in the ear). :P
i can’t believe that Dr. Phil stated all these traumatic triggering things that this girl went through in front of an audience like it was some grocery list and then he found that SHE offended him??? i hope that girl is doing better now :(
Something I didn’t see stated before but should be mentioned: as far as I can see in these clips, she’s calm, relatively polite, and never raises her voice and yet THIS is his reaction.
Did u see he said "friend" with Air quote gestures what does that even mean? Why did he do that without an inch of sympathy on his face. He said that in a sarcastic tone like it was nothing.
@@shitshow2376 Yeah. He did that implying he knows their entire relationship together pre-rãpe.
Apparently she is not. The Dr Phil's promise of offering additional help for the clients is just hogwash. Supposedly she is doing just as bad if not worse than before. (From another commenter who said they were the friend of Bailey's cousin)
Yeah, I've tried to go through with PTSD therapy for rape and abuse. It was incredibly difficult and I never went through with it because it hurts so bad to think about because you relive it. The closest i got to having a good therapist was one who decided to ease me into it with why I have a skin-picking compulsion and even that was too much because it's linked to other traumas because it evolved into a coping mechanism for everything, regardless of scale. You can't put all of someone's pain on blast all at once in front of an audience and then belittle them. This was painful to watch. Even though she was a horrid stalker, she's still a person and they literally tortured her
The irony of Dr. Phil saying he doesn't live in a fantasy land when this is his show
He literally has fabricated his own ultimate fantasy land oh my god you're fucking right
THE FUCKING RANCH
@@torikelso4734 NOOOOO SOTPRPNSJSIJFF
LOL
@@torikelso4734 the one with the ram, or other one i have yet to know?
Add this humiliating experience to the list of traumas to that girl. Yikes.
Yeah solid one phil, ridiculing a traumatized rape victim in front of a live audience surely will go a long way to help her mental state like she needs actual therapy and this was the exact opposite
there is a way to handle this but he just don't care. some people after all their pain or issues, still have enough strength to share it with others so it's not like there's no value but Dr Phil is useless haha.
yes she's a conventionally attractive white girl living in the US, life is really going to be uphill for her
@@loonachan way to downplay the struggles of mental health.
@@loonachan yet she is traumatized and sad and lives with delusions. Hm
i had a shitty therapist who acted a lot like dr phil. she’d be like “well you can always leave” when she’d emotionally abuse me and try to “give me an out” but making it clear i didn’t have a choice. she’d say things like “well just because you’re upset doesn’t mean i have to think it’s right (to be upset)”
anyway i reported her to that state’s board (she did some other stuff including violating the privacy of other patients and myself. but her emotional abuse was also brought to the board’s attention)
that behavior isn’t okay from a therapist in private and especially not for the world to see on national television
I was friends with a therapist for years (not my own), and he was one of the most manipulative and abusive lunatics I ever met. Needless to say his job was making it easier for him to do this since he can learn everybody's everything every time he goes to work and how to use it against people in their personal lives.
Telling a woman with a dissociative disorder that she lives in “fantasy land” is cruel and a (good) mental health provider would never say that
Phill hasn't been a licensed therapist for over a decade, so the egg is on YOUR face! Or something.
Even if he were just a bad mental health provider, his behavior here is straight up unethical. Honestly, his whole show is unethical.
But he did drop his license to avoid getting it taken away due to unethical behavior, so I suppose we shouldn't be surprised.
I beg to differ.
@@andyblanton6570 About? His show violates the ethical principles of Beneficence, Integrity, Justice and Respect for People's Rights and Dignity.
Re: Beneficence: Dr. Phil doesn't "strive to benefit those with whom [he] work[s] and take care to do no harm". "When conflicts occur among psychologists' obligations or concerns, they attempt to resolve these conflicts in a responsible fashion that avoids or minimizes harm. Because psychologists' scientific and professional judgments and actions may affect the lives of others, they are alert to and guard against personal, financial, social, organizational, or political factors that might lead to misuse of their influence." Dr. Phil humiliates people on television for the entertainment of his audience; any help they receive is tangential to that goal.
Re: Integrity: "Psychologists seek to promote accuracy, honesty, and truthfulness in the science, teaching, and practice of psychology. In these activities psychologists do not steal, cheat or engage in fraud, subterfuge, or intentional misrepresentation of fact. Psychologists strive to keep their promises and to avoid unwise or unclear commitments. In situations in which deception may be ethically justifiable to maximize benefits and minimize harm, psychologists have a serious obligation to consider the need for, the possible consequences of, and their responsibility to correct any resulting mistrust or other harmful effects that arise from the use of such techniques." Dr. Phil and/or his staff plausibly misled this woman about the presence of her biological mother.
Re: Justice: "Psychologists recognize that fairness and justice entitle all persons to access to and benefit from the contributions of psychology and to equal quality in the processes, procedures, and services being conducted by psychologists. Psychologists exercise reasonable judgment and take precautions to ensure that their potential biases, the boundaries of their competence, and the limitations of their expertise do not lead to or condone unjust practices." Dr. Phil was clearly biased about this woman, and he showed them repeatedly.
Re: Respect for People's Rights and Dignity: "Psychologists respect the dignity and worth of all people, and the rights of individuals to privacy, confidentiality, and self-determination. Psychologists are aware that special safeguards may be necessary to protect the rights and welfare of persons or communities whose vulnerabilities impair autonomous decision making." Dr. Phil brings people on TV to be berated about their issues. If he actually cared about their dignity he'd never do that, but he wants to make money.
I suspect you're not disagreeing in good faith, based on your lack of any attached points, so I won't be responding further. Everything in quotes was taken from the American Psychological Association's code of ethics, which you can learn more about here: www.apa.org/ethics/code.
Yeah!
A real therapist doesn't constantly position themselves as a godlike savior to their patients.
Exactly, it's actually important to aknowledge at various points that you only have hypotheses to work with, strong and supported and they may seem, that you're not all powerful and that you don't have all the answers. It not only humanizes the therapist and subtly gives back some of the power back to the patient, but is also ACTUALLY FUCKING TRUE.
I always tell my patients that even if I may have more knowledge about psychology, psychotherapy and general human behaviour than they do, they have much more knowledge about themselves, and that's the VASTLY more important factor. I will be the one learning (about them) much more than they will be in our relationship.
And I DO learn from my patients every day. Nobody has better words and ways to express what they're going through in their condition than they themselves do.
A real therapist also doesn't televise their therapy sessions in front of a live audience to make profit from it.
@@Feamelwen Though if you're actively doubting the effectiveness of your therapy then that would mean it to be adverse to administer such. Especially treating delusional clients it could be as important if not more important to assert the reality of the situation and provide a therapeutic framework through which the deluded themselves may even approach let alone understand what is happening, however hypothetical that framework may be. There are studies showing the effectiveness of just the approach which is why for most neurotic predicaments seem to benefit roughly equally no matter the therapeutic school. (As long as it is applied and administered by a capable therapist of course.)
@@ionioakinioanette5729 No, it's not about doubting your own capabilities or the therapy. You always believe in the possibility, big or small as it may seem, for the patient to get better on their own terms, sooner or later, eventually. This is not negotiable to me. If you don't utterly, sincerely believe that that possibility always exists for every patient, you don't form authentic professional relationships with patients. However, absolute certainty coming from the therapist can be just as toxic, veering into toxic positivity. It's a delicate balancing act, but doubt is extremely important, including with patients with delusions. Leaving room for doubt doesn't mean reinforcing their delusions, it means validating their subjective experience. Abruptly and adamantly confronting them with the "facts" when they're delusional is completely useless. Leaving room for doubt means letting them know that they're human too, and that's okay. And since a lot of therapies use, at least to some degree, the person of the therapist to model and offer an alternative way of being, that means admitting that the therapist is human too, and knows doubt.
And yes, I agree, most meta analyses do show that the authenticity of the relationship matters far more than the specific technique or school of thought used in the therapy. And since there can be no autheticity without doubt, once again, doubt is absolutely essential. It just has to be used in small doses, for instance, of course, therapy is not about pouring your doubts and axieties onto the patient to overwhelm them.
We hope
dr phil: “this is a safe place to talk about hard things”
dr phil: *attacks venerable young adult looking for guidance*
Not to mention that a therapy is in a private space, not with an audience judging and applauding you, as if you were some kind of attraction.
dr phil: parades her traumas on a literal whiteboard in front of millions
This shit constantly and consistently happens in the south and no one's batting an eye lol, the way Dr. Phil acts towards the people he brings on is exactly the way I was treated because I had ADHD, so imagine everyone else with an ACTUAL DISABILITY in the south, shit is not fun down here
@@spicynoodles2742 Bold of you to assume the goal of the show was/is ever therapy. He hasn't had a license for 15 years, has done no CE, and participants have to sign disclaimers that his suggestions are merely advice. Not to mention he's got a PhD, not a Psy. D. People who go for a PhD focus more on theory, experimental design, collating and interpreting data, and how best to present that data. If it's clinical practice a person wants,.they usually go for a Psy D. The Psy D puts a lot more focus on patient interactions and practical application of theories in order to treat patients.
A similar example is an MD vs an MD/PhD. Being.in an MD program, there is an enormous emphasis on examination skills, chasing down a diagnosis, and adminstering treatmenr. The last two years are almost entirely clinical. A friend of mine in a dual program sacrifices some of that clinical experience in favor of experimental design and everything else that comes with a focus on conducting research.
Not to minimize the amount of work it takes to get that PhD or "poo poo" their contributions, just saying I wouldn't be surprised if Dr. McGraw was behind the curve when it comes to clinical application. He spent most of his career on advising leagal teams in the first place.
@@theshanamaster Well, that sucks. Even in the county detox unit I was at least treated with some dignity and respect.
And yeah. Good point. Bailey saying “you can all laugh at me” basically breaks the 4th wall. The audience might actually evaluate their behavior and say “omg I’ve been laughing at a poor girl with real issues all because the applause sign turned green” so dr Phil is clearly threatened by that. I think threatened by her in general. He’s been trying to get her off the stage since she got up.
Yea as soon as phill new she was upset at the show he knew she had to go before she broke the fourth wall. honestly I’m surprised he didn’t think of some excuse to kick her out immediately
Breaking the fourth wall only works with fiction.
@@jostockton. that's the point. the audience knows on the surface that its nonfiction, but they treat it like fictional entertainment. she is not actually breaking the fourth wall, she is reminding them that she is real.
Something worse is that this experience might have scared Bailey from ever talking to a REAL therapist in the future. So she might not ever get the help she needs.
That's so sad
Holy Sheet, that was a terrible event Bailey faced. Damned to Dr. Phil, Damned.
Imagine going to your therapist and there’s a crowd there and the therapist just starts listing off traumatic events in your life in a very matter of fact way in front of like 100 people
+ millions more you can't even see. horrifying.
And the worst part is that he's too stupid to make the connection that "hey, MAYBE her problems now may have SOMETHING to do with her coping with all of that shit I just brought up? Like she's believing in this fantasy with this stranger because that's the one way she can pretend to have a positive relationship in her life."
But no, he just goes right back to "lolshutupyasillycrazy" like the assclown he is.
This guy is a fucking abuser. Lied to get her their in the first place, bluntly makes her relive her trauma, then scolds her when she has the audacity to push back against any of his bullshit.
@@ktownshutdown21 it’s traumatizing to even watch, honestly I can’t begin imagine how traumatic it was for her. No one should be treated like that especially for the sake of entertainment.
Imagine going to the dr Phil show and being surprised there’s an audience
@@La_br00tal_mija not my point at all. I was trying to point out how this is not how therapy works. People are naive or can’t afford real therapy and go to dr Phil for help when he’s just a tv personality and does more harm than good.
“How dare you be so melodramatic while an audience of middle-aged, self-loathing housewives laughs at your trauma!
You make me sick.”
“These women come here to feel better about themselves in their depressing mediocrity by mocking irregular people and you pointing that out hurts their feelings! Get out of my temple!”
The audience complicity in this video is so apperant and most disturbing to me. They all have that condescending look shaking their heads while Dr. Phil just talks shit about her in in a way that would get anyone disbarred.
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"why would talking about your trauma in front of a TV audience then being exposed to your lifelong abuser make you uncomfortable??"
Idk the only people I see talking about watching Dr Phil these days are 20 something guys.
Hearing the audience clap as he bullies her is sickening.
Bailey shined a light on the abusive relationship Dr Phil has with his guests. He spends the episode gaslighting Bailey and parading her trauma.
I had never watched Dr. Phil, until I watched him in these clips. His behavior really is completely and utterly disgusting isn't it.
@@harrycooper5231 As someone who grew up in America, this behavior is everywhere, in almost any authoritative system there is. It's absolutely disgusting the amount of gaslighting and false narratives to corral people into believing them. So many victims get entangled.
The more I've looked into this the more it makes me sad. This woman clearly wasn't okay. The harassment of the beauty influencer shouldn't have happened because its clear this was a reaction to trauma and could have been avoided if people had just given a shit about Baily. It seems like the only person who wanted Baily to get help and cared about her was the woman she was stalking online.
As someone who didn't grow in America I gradually started seeing America as a materially rich country that is morally and ethically bankrupt, it seems a big portion of Americans and first worlders in general have become detached and have little to no empathy down to an almost sociopathic level. I've never been so uncomfortable as the time I was in New York, there was a dead homeless man in the street and no one gave a shit and kept strolling, Dr Phil's fixation that human worth is attributed by employment is a reflex of North American society, a society in where if you don't profit or give someone profit then you're subhuman.
@@antimewpropaganda9503it's not an American thing
“I didn’t bring you here to make a spectacle out of you”
So why does your “therapy” happen on a film stage on not in private?
because he got his license to practice taken away due to boundary issues so he needs to play therapist to make himself feel good
@@victoriar8284 Also because there's much better money for much less work this way.
He sends people to therapists. He is no longer a therapist himself.
@@jeffc5974 No he literally had his license revoked for treating both halves of a married couple without telling either of them lol
Cus he makes more money harassing and backlighting people than he could a actual psychiatrist
ah that poor girl at the beginning seemed so upset and genuinely hurt, she was never disrespectful to him and he was so stern for no reason
Cause if he wasn't the audience would end up sympathizing with her and realize how bad a person Phil is for trying to make bank off of someone's trauma. So he slapped it down and painted her as a delusional kid who didn't know any better.
@@PoggoMcDawggo yeah totally! I had never watched anything with him before and I'm surprised by how manipulative and unpleasant he comes across, I can't believe he has such a big audience
I remember watching that live and it made me feel so, so uneasy. She acting pretty rational for someone who was being put on the spot like she was.
@@eli3845 It's the late 20th/early 21st century equivalent of the Victorians going to Bedlam Hospital and poking the patients with a pointed stick. It's side-show freak entertainment without even the decency of a circus gives with giving the "freak" a paycheck.
Yeah that was really hard to watch :(
“Dr.” Phil: I believe you have DEREALIZation disorder (which is the feeling of the things and people around you not being real)
“Dr.” Phil two seconds later: *berates her for living in a fantasy world*
IMAGINE SEEING ALL YOUR TRAUMA BULLETPOINTED ON A SMARTBOARD HOLY SHIT
This trauma. This trauma and this trauma....
IKR
Therapy is a slow process where you help the person bring out their trauma themselves not shove it down their throats in front of a laughing audience adnksbfksbfjdhfdj
while the guy is totally turned away from you and not interested in being even slightly sympathetic or hearing how you feel about it. and if you try to say anything he makes you the problem. he should put their current interaction on the fucking trauma list
I'm not going to let you play like she's the victim here
@@MarcillaSmith I'm not going to let you think that you know anything about what she went through, Miss "Not the victim"
She wasn't being crazy enough so Dr. Phil got pissed
She was aware enough to see that she was being abused my the production team and him, not to throw big words but there is literally a power dynamic that “Dr.” Phil explicitly tried to make apparent to her.
Nah she was just the wrong kind of crazy
@@mccrme ... The kind that does what exactly?
@primms yeah I think that's exactly it. Even when she apologized, which she didn't need to he was still an ass. What a fucken bully.
@@joeybradley4352 The kind of “crazy” that is a treatable condition that needs to be respected and treated with care instead of abject humiliation (though let’s be honest, you would be hard pressed to find someone for whom being on Phil’s show was actively productive and healing)
Words cannot express how much I despise """Dr""" Phil McGraw. He is a terrible, awful person, whose entire livelihood rests on making struggling people into a point-and-laugh freakshow, all under the guise of "helping" and "straight talk." No wonder he isn't liscensed to practice in ANY state.
The bit where he chastises her for being "melodramatic" and tries to tell her that he and the audience are here to help, not laugh, just infuriates me beyond belief. Of course the *studio audience* that just applauded and laughed when you told her she lived in "Fantasy Land" only has her best interests in mind.
You are a better man than I, Joel, because I think you went too easy on him.
Also how ironic was that accusation of melodrama when he goes on to ... melodramatically ... boot her off the show? Is it not melodrama because it's a "doctor" in a suit with a penis and a position of authority and not an emotional young woman? Is that it? I feel like that's it. I am kind of fucking raging over this actually.
The moronic clapping seals in the audience are equally terrible, this is just a faux genteel form of bear bating. How easily crowds are controlled by the directions of an imbecile, it just makes the young lady the brightest person in that room. As for the viewership- sometimes dumb is too dumb to realise just how dumb dumb is.
I don't understand why people love Oprah, she promotes these charletan "doctors".
I truly wonder if an actual licensed phycologist was on the show and was able to write a small essay about him what would happen? A lot of people would Stan and simp Dr. Phil, but some would probably listen.
As someone who watches this show a lot because my dad ends up having it on during the day, he generally gets SUPER touchy about people mentioning or interacting with the audience. And ESPECIALLY SO if they make any sort of reference to this being a television show meant to showcase and exploit their issues. I don't think this old man will ever understand how awful it is for a regular person to have their paper graded in front of a crowd.
The thing is, if this was like,,, ACTUALLY therapy, Bailey's 21 so her mother's presence isn't needed. Thus his insistence on her being there, even after she expressed discomfort is gross.
Even for minors, therapists still need consent from the minor for most parental involvement except in very special cases as far as I know (reasonable suspicion of the chance or hurting self or others or if it has already been done, and the standard for reasonable suspicion is generally very high and has to be imminent I think)
@@bacchus9389 wait, is that true, because that wasn't how I was treated
@@kaiceecrane3884 It is. They're not supposed to have any parental involvement unless there is consent from the patient. Any time they don't do so, they're breaking guidelines. There is supposed to be consent in some form from the minor to have actual involvement and they should only be there in small instances where they wish to "say anything" but most times it should be private except for then unless the therapist has something to tell them without disclosure of what you spoke about.
Exactly! (Also, I adore your pfp lol)
If I'd been in her position, with the mother issue, I would have used email or something to make sure I got that shit in writing, and then pulled it up on Dr Fuckface for trying to bullshit me 😠
“You are not here for spectacle” what a terribly gaslighting thing to say. The whole point of the show is spectacle.
Licensed therapist here: that whole clip with Bailey made me feel nauseous. Disgusting and unprofessional behavior.
Even watching as someone with no psychological knowledge at all when I first watched this clip the way he treated her just came off as cruel.
Well Dr. Phil is an Oprah clone
They are selling suffering, shame, fear, sensation... It's a TV show, we're in the 21st century. What do you expect
@@lovelyismydog this show could air on TLC.
he's not a therapist
Her apology about her emotional outburst is so sad because it shows she was never allowed or given a safe place to express her emotions at all. She’s afraid her emotions will offend others around her and so she allows herself to be an emotional punching bag because she feels she can take it. Just to save the audience and doctor Phil from feeling guilty about doing so. Such a gross up situation I’m glad you brought to my attention.
Also him talking about her bio-mom being her "responsible parent". It feels so patronising and demeaning. Regardless of any mental health issues, Bailey is an adult who has a right to not be forced to interact with someone who upsets her, and doesn't need a "responsible parent"
How ironic mr Phil actually is. Because when it would be good for him, he will tell his subject the exact opposite. If there would be one grown-up sitting on the chair who is in no capable of taking care of itself, he would nag about how the person is an adult who shouldn't be taken care of by other people. Just how it fits him, and only himself best, and nothing else.
Wait, waht the heck? I tought she was literally a teenager, the way he is talking with her. You telling me he talks like that to another adult? And speaks about "who's responsible for her"? The man's an even bigger asshat than I tought, dear god
"I'm not into all this melodrama"
Self-awareness: zero
Oh he knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s just gaslighting her.
Maybe hes unaware he has a tv show
I think its a mata-ironic show
@@orbitfold XD
He's lying. Again.
I've noticed the show going downhill like this recently. They had a young man on who was a very successful college graduate, nice house, nice life, but he was OBVIOUSLY majorly depressed. he slept on the couch because "the walk up the stairs wasnt worth it". His family was oblivious and called him lazy and when he came on the show Dr. Phil just kept poking fun at the "ridiculously easy things" that the man should be doing, and the audience and the family were laughing. no mention of depression and they brought in a LIFE COACH who got offended when the young man said he wasnt sure about cutting his hair, telling him he's not serious. It made me fume and im so done with that show. they are literally making a spectacle of mentally ill people and adding on more stigma
Ever since the official UA-cam channel opened the comments, the sheer number of commenters who could see that he was obviously depressed upset me. We all could have collectively helped him more than Dr. Phil.
ua-cam.com/video/akU7JTcOeKk/v-deo.html
absolutely disgusting.
I have a really hard time believing that shouting "I DON'T CARE" repeatedly at a severely depressed person when they tell you about their issues or telling someone that the only reason that they're like that is because they lack motivation and that they only need to try harder is a good or helpful approach in any way. It Is incredibly dangerous to deny and neglect someone's feelings like that and the fact that Phil doesn't even notice how bad it really was is borderline terrifying to me considering the sheer amount of patients he has.
The guy seemed really nice and willing to get help and he realizes that he has a problem that needs to be fixed. The fact that he has a degree and went to uni and stuff proves that he isn't naturally that lazy so it is clearly something more than just lack of motivation.
He doesn't need some rich dude-bro telling him that all he needs is new shoes and a haircut to be completely okay again and a fifty year old guy with anger management issues screaming at him that his feelings and invalid and that he's just like that because he tells himself that he isn't worth it.
He needs real help from real professionals ("Dr" Phil literally hasn't renewed his licence to legally be a psychologist since 2006) and a supporting family who doesn't laugh in his face and calls him lazy when he tries to explain how he feels.
sorry for such a long rant but I hope at least some of it made sense
I wish everyone who reads this and the guy I'm referring to all the best in life and remember that it always gets better
@@potato7918 I actually hadn’t seen that specific clip and it’s HORRIFYING the way Phil was yelling at him after he accurately laid out his issues and questions. From how the guy was describing it sounds like executive dysfunction, which is easy to spot if you’re a real therapist. Yelling I DONT CARE at him to finish the 10 percent of his work just doesn’t do anything. He probably yells that at himself everyday.
There’s no “recently.” The show has always been like this. It’s just that people weren’t talking about it before now.
I seen that episode too. I was also very angry with how they handled the young man. I go through times myself where I am just too damn depressed to go out or get out of bed. It's an overwhelming feeling. If I had gone to a therapist and ended up being laughed at, berated, or called lazy over "simple" tasks, I would feel so defeated and ashamed. It would only make me feel more worthless! I can't believe Dr. Phil's show is still around, it's giving people the wrong perception of how mental illnesses should be viewed and treated. Anyway, ty for this comment, I feel like you really worded that well, and I just wanted to say I completely agree. It's good to hear that people finally SEE some of this stuff!
could you imagine if you were in a real therapist's office and in the middle of you talking they put a flashing alarm graphic up on a giant screen and just started shouting "COMMON SENSE ALERT! COMMON SENSE ALERT!"
Did Voltaire predict this when he wrote in his _Dictionnaire Philosophique_ : "It is sometimes said, common sense is very rare."?
I can’t imagine having all my worst, most traumatic events read out to me like that on TV while someone ridicules me for being unstable what the fuck... I feel so bad for Bailey
It genuinely seemed like a nightmare.
Exactly. There's literally no reason to be on this show cause it's a lose lose situation. I guess they pay the people to be on?
I'm sure you'd get me starting to shake with only like the half most traumatic events in my life being on display and made fun of like that
yup.. now she can add "going on doctor phil and being treated like trash by him in front of a crowd for entertainment" to her list of traumas..
Ok so, Bailey's not a minor right? She's an adult who can come and go as she pleases so how would her mother be on the show unless someone contacted her? This feels like that whole "responsible parent" thing was just appealing to a sense of parental authority that his audience might have.
It absolutely was. The way he belittles her and then says "I wouldn't speak to her without her responsible mother" to that woman?
I immediately felt uncomfortable.
Exactly. She's 21, she didn't need a parent there in the slightest. It's possible to have a legal guardian responsible for certain decisions if you are diagnosed by a REAL therapist to be unfit to make them, but this was clearly not the case. They just knew she had a bad relationship with the mother and wanted someone there who could talk about how "crazy" she was.
Besides, even if she was a teen, it's not unusual for there to be conflict or bad blood with bio parents. Not wanting to have her mother on the show was a completely normal and acceptable demand, especially considering she's an adult in her own right.
even as a minor, in actual therapy, the therapist needs the patient's permission to talk about anything mentioned in therapy to a parent
This conversation really shouldn't be taking place until Dr Phil's responsible parent can be present
I had a therapist like him, who cared more about being right and being the smartest person in the room than actually getting me help. I not only quit seeing them, I reported them and got them fired because you can't treat your patients that way.
It's very dangerous to be propping someone like Dr. Phil up, because it's bad practice. You can't tell someone who is having delusions that they're wrong, they won't believe you. You can't mock a depressed person for being lazy. You can't talk down and gaslight your patients just so they don't make you look bad in front of other people. Dr. Phil's tactics range from useless to dangerous and it's concerning that he's profiting off of what is essentially gossip and drama under the guise of 'mental health treatment'.
It sucks that there are a handful of therapists like him. I dealt with one as a teen. My mom was manipulative at the time and my therapist at the time always took her side never once asked my side just assumed my mother was telling the truth and I was always the troubled child 100% in the wrong 100% of the time. One time she even yelled at me throwing f bombs in front of my mother and a colleague who was shadowing her that session. I guess she wanted to puff her chest and flex her authority or whatever but I still think back at that day and think how fucked up and unprofessional she was that day.
@@rosxjun a sad fact is that many therapists have a hard time keeping their own biases out of their sessions--if they're right, they're right, and you need to get over it (or at least that's what they think). Having been in the middle of the American mental health care system for a decade, it's sad how many people will go into it for the wrong reasons, and how few actually even try to understand it.
I hope you're doing better now, I had a similar experience when I was younger. I'm fortunate to have a good therapist now and I hope you found one too eventually.
@@KupKate215 I'm sorry you went through your bad experience as well. It's further depressing when the people who are there to help you do the exact opposite. I've known very good ones since then fortunately. I hope you have as well. My mother and I are on good terms now (I'm 32) I hope you are also in a better place as well. I definitely wouldn't wish my bad experiences on my worst enemy that's for damn sure
I had therapy with a very prominent psychologist that was kind of like Dr. Phil and it was around the time of his greatest popularity. Maybe Phil’s show has influenced people to believe that his style is the hallmark of quality care.
same experience with the lead psychiatrist of an inpatient facility i was admitted to when i was 16
I remember I watched Pewdiepie a lot when I was younger, and was pretty far into the epic gamer "facts don't care about your feelings" mentality, and watched and enjoyed a lot of his Dr. Phil reactions. But the time he reacted to Bailey's episode was the first time it clicked for me that it's more complicated than just pointing out a delusion, being rude and getting a crowd to laugh at you to magically fix trauma, and that these people aren't just "crazy people", but deeply broken individuals in need of help, and for the first time in my life, the mental dissonance around mental health as a whole kinda started to fade for me. After that, I slowly started to see the show for what it was, an exploitation of the broken and the mentally ill in possibly the most dystopian way you could imagine.
Her quiet “that’s hurtful” after he made the fantasyland comment and the audience starts clapping is so sad
I honestly just wanted to hug her. I know she has done objectively terrible things but
She still deserves compassion and help.
It was heartbreaking, this girl doesn’t need shame , she needs help and compassion. She’s suffering.
Maybe Dr Phil needs a competitor. A more compassionate therapist who doesn’t gaslight people.
@@samandchelsea1754 no, that’s the capitalist brainwashing talking.
@@samandchelsea1754 any therapist with compassion would never agree to do a therapy session on national tv, regardless of any perceived "good intentions". it's not just the laughter that makes this into spectacle, it's literally the whole damn structure of "watching a real person who is psychologically suffering" being filmed and then distributed as a piece of media. the solution to this type of tv is absolutely not to make more of it, it's to not have it at all.
The way he showed "raped by a friend" on a screen and reading it out loud is probably one of the cruelest behaviors I've ever seen.
My heart absolutely clenched for her. I swear I can see her dissociating from the circus of her current reality. It's like some fucked up skit.
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it was so disgusting, and the worst part for me is how complicit the audience is
With the obvious implication that it wasn’t really rape because he was a friend and rape only happens with strangers. 🤮🤮🤮
Also, technically, he's not allow to do ANYTHING clinically, because he's NOT A REGISTERED CLINICIAN!
Exactly! My neuropsychology professor called him a quack!
And apparently he doesn't live in fantasy land?
It's kind of traumatic to look back at Dr Phil content because I grew up with this garbage playing on tv all week at home. Our parents often used it to point out what we, the kids, did wrong. Dr Phil used his platform to belittle survivors while being an authority for parents to look to. He's had a terrible influence on way too many people.
"You may be living in fantasy land, but I'm not." Honestly, that one line sums it up. Bailey is suffering with delusions, according to Dr. Phil and he says THAT to her?
Wow. Just, wow.
How cruel.
i'm schizophrenic and experience delusions myself and this is such a disrespectful thing to say to someone suffering from things like that. it can destroy your life and he undermines it by making it seem like crippling delusions that take you entirely out of reality are just "living in fantasy land" and not severe mental health problems. it's awful
@@mosspiglets7667 I can imagine, I don't suffer with them myself but I can have empathy for those who do, it seems Dr. Phil doesn't have one ounce of it.
Well Dr. Phil thinks "most of these people are all just lazy and making excuses to not work more than they have something wrong in the mind.". Also he brings people on to the show, insults them for being unemployed, insults them for their behavior without getting to the root of the problem, does this for the world to see and makes millions off of it and thinks that's okay. So yes Dr Phil is also living in fantasy land.
@@mosspiglets7667 as a nurse who works with people who deal with all types of delusions, one of the first things we are taught is to not deny them. The fact that this man is some sort of mental health "professional", makes me so mad
@@ibuproblem1058 yeah he's definitely using people's mental health to make a profit off of it on the show..it's sick. And the "ranch" he used to send kids to is being sued for child abuse.
"I'm not here to make a spectacle out of you," he says while explicitly televising her therapy session to the entire world
Is that how it was set up? I thought it was some freakshow. There is no way it is marketed as fixing anything.
@@mickeyboy90 He'd never admit it, but yes.
Hey! Who are we to second guess his clinical decisions?
@@mickeyboy90 Dr. Phil is the "sophisticated" version of the drama shows like "Maury Povitch" where they bring people out to yell at each other and then cut to the audience gasping, and then read out the paternity results. Dr. Phil has the same elements except he only uses polygraphs, no paternity tests. And he somewhat reins in the yelling, and says he doesn't want a spectacle, yet he loves to show guests storming off and then footage of them backstage after they storm off. And he usually protects kids' privacy but not always. He offers treatment programs for after the show, but I've heard that the program often falls through or is unsuccessful, and he only does a follow-up if it was successful. It's definitely a freak show and it's sad because I think mamy people go on because they're desperate and want the help that he offers, but they have to get humiliated first. Others just want the attention of being on TV. But he has this illusion of sophistication because he's a psychologist and pretends the show is about mental health.
Dr. Phil is the kind of person who literally sucker punches you and then asks, "Why are you getting defensive?!?"
Then he would blame you for hurting his wittle hand& glob help you if he wrinkled his suit in the process!
Dr.Probably Phil: What is the point of your life, if you have to defend it?
I've seen guests get upset over the audience's laughter many times on the show, and Phil gets mad EVERY time, saying "There laughing at the absurdity of the situation, not at you, so don't get sanctimonious with me".
Dr.Phil lives in the "fantasy land" of thinking his show is anything but creating a spectacle of his guests, so that others can gawk and laugh. He is just upset at being called out about it, upset that he and the audience are being confronted with the reality of what the show does.
Yuuup. Its why he turned into such a baby the moment she was preempting the response, cause the wrestling match he's slated to win doesn't pad his ego if the opponent tells the crowd that the fight is rigged and its all an act. How else is he supposed to feel superior about his totally not a carnival sideshow and his role as the barker profiting off the 'freaks'?
He’s a tool who can’t take real criticism the second someone said exactly what he does he lot his shit and shit his little pants
yeah this is actually a pretty good view on what happens in his head psychologically. lol he was threatened and he reacted. hey - dr. phil, maybe you should interview yourself????
And you know what, maybe it's fine for him to create a spectacle out of his guests for the entertainment of others, but doing so as a supposed " trained professional" and to market that as helping his guests deal with their issues and remedy them? That's just despicable
He thinks he’s so rational and kind by snarking and RANTING at all these mentally ill people with his “witty” remarks. So when someone calls out the messed up nature of his show he turns into a big crybaby. Pathetic.
Who would do a therapy session on national television with an audience that laughs and applauds? That’s not therapy. It’s a perverse form of entertainment.
Exactly!
@@citruspin1915 EXACTLY it's straight from my nightmares 😬
I believe that the people who go on the show are only there for the free counseling afterwards. Unfortunately going on the show makes that actual therapy needed even more.
American corporate media is becoming really dystopic. This episode is just another to add to this sad reality.
@@evertonc1448 the "everything is getting worse" fear mongering is and has always been a thing. Before tech, there was posters, before ink there was people who stood on the corner and yelled. Things aren't getting worse. It's just that those who aren't aware of how things are, now have to face the reality of others outside their bubble. And then there are things everyone is aware of, being over dramatized. Because when you're scared, you're rash and stupid. You're more easily controlled. I'm not a history major, but from what little I know of humanities story plots. This is just a repeat with better graphics.
this makes me feel so uncomfortable. we treat dr phil like a silly old man, or a meme, but a lot of his content and behavior is harmful for the audience and straight up diabolical toward his subjects.
we have empirical proof that criticizing and/or ridiculing patients / clients is detrimental and stops therapy working... WHO THE HECK NEEDED PROOF but anyway we have it! we have it!
Oh, don't worry, he does plenty of horrible shit off camera as well. Just ask his many sexual misconduct victims, like the students he harassed causing his license to practice psychology to be revoked in Texas.
I had to skip all the clips from the show cause they made me feel so fucking awful lol I remember watching this shit as a kid and ofc as a kid I never saw anything abusive but now, hooooooy boy :D
Crazy how "Dr." Phil got so defensive and butthurt about that woman having a breakdown about being turned into a spectacle. Because he *knows* she's calling him out
"You say you're a spectacle, but that's not what I'm about?" Um...yes it is... That's literally all you have ever been about. Have you ever thought televising bad therapy is anything else?
The cold expression on his face when she called him out says everything about what his show is doing. That was gaslighting in action, it gives me chills.
@@carolyntalbot947 Good point, treating her as if there wasn’t just a studio audience laughing at her
"I'm not into all this melodrama..." I about died when Phil said that. Dude, have you not seen your show?
Never trust anyone who says they hate melodrama. You will never lose money betting they are the center of it.
Translation: _I'm not into you making my audience uncomfortable by correctly pointing out that my show makes a spectacle out of the people I bring on instead of actually getting them real help._
I’m a clinical psychologist and I physically cringe while watching dr. Phil, most of it is the opposite of what you’re supposed to say.. stopped watching it very quickly after starting. The psychologist is supposed to have zero ego in this situation, it’s not about them, it’s all about the client..
Yea It also makes me sad how people might have mental health problems and would want to go to therapy but the only thing of how it looks is Dr. Phil. So they are justifiably terrified and never go. There still is a stigma around mental health professionals and patients and this stuff doesn't help.
as a fellow psychologist, "cringe" is the least of the fucking problems with this. It's cynical, it's exploitative as fuck, it's a huge betrayal of the trust that people who come on the show put in him, it's toying with and making fun of vulnerable people who have asked for help, and it's probably incredibly damaging not only to the people who show up on the show (let me just list all your trauma's for everyone to see in order to explain why you're a silly child who lives in fantasyland lmaooo), but also to a lot of people who just watch it. He turns people's mental health issues into entertainment, thereby reinforcing the image of people with mental issues as wacky and goofy and crazy, which is pretty horrible as is, but then in the process he also totally screws up their idea of what getting help is supposed to look like. Imagine being a troubled 21 year old going on Dr. Phil and coming away with the idea that going to therapy entails having some insecure old man humiliate you in front of people and then tell you to either fuck off or say thank you sir. I honestly kind of hope dr phil will burn in hell someday.
Why don't you call (and think of) them patients like psychoanalysts is do? I always wondered that.
Yet Phil feels like he needs to soak up the spotlight and false appreciation.
All he is is ego. He’s absolutely disgusting
16:21 "This show is a joke. The people are laughing."
Such a potent summary.
she broke my heart when she uttered "I.. i don't live in fantasy world". poor girl
The fact that she even agreed to come to the show, reveals that she was at least aware that she had some issues, and that the situation could no continue as it was.
Meaning she was not (or at least not entirely) living in "fantasy land"
Dr.Phil says he does not live in fantasy land, but he's literally a tv star pretending to be a councillor. He lives in a fantasy land.
Exactly!!! “They don’t tell me what I’m going to do clinically.” Cool but you’re not a clinician, you do not have a licence to practice.
“You don’t dictate what I do from a clinical standpoint”.
No. That’s not how it works. You always have the ability to say no to your doctor and they should always respect that
You as a patient have no right to dictate how I treat you as your doctor
That's how the practice of medicine works right?
Any clinicians job is to provide good options and make sure their patient can make an informed decision. Not make it for them
@@FrancisR420 no that's not how it works, patients can refuse certain treatments and options that doctors present. doctors are not in charge of patients.
He's not even certified. He's a charlatan
Its worse than that. Bringing someone into your clinical practice who you have specifically asked not to is straight up malpractice.
Having therapy in front of a live audience with a fake therapist is so wild
Dr. Phil is unwittingly a really effective documentary on why the USA have quietly struggled with a massive mental illness epidemic for decades.
Yes.
It's also why people don't fully support people with mental illness especially the stigmatized illness like me
Part of the reason, a HUGE part in America is the diet and the gates healthcare. But Phil’s actually evil
Someone like Bailey shouldn’t have been on tv to begin. This is like a real mental illness situation. The bonus gaslighting and hostility is a cherry on top.
this can be a new trauma to add to the PowerPoint ⍨
Nobody should. This hole show is disgusting
Why would you go on TV with you private problems? It makes no sense... Only if this is staged... Or you're a narcissist..
@@oliveryt7168 maybe people with mental health problems or young people fail to grasp the consequences
@@4Abaddon4 And also, a lot of these people are probably desperate for any semblance of help, or for the monetary compensation they (most likely) receive for their appearance.
There needs to be an entire series dedicated to exposing all the ways that "Dr." Phil is a horrible man who hurts people.
I agree. I really feel like the harm Dr. Phil does isn't talked about enough.
I could not agree more. The show has been on the air for quite a while now and there is a lot to be examined in all that
Agreed.
I just can't wait for everything to catch up to him, just knock him tf off his tower
Dr. Phil: "You live in fantasy land. I'm going to mock you instead of helping you for cheap laughs."
Crowd: "woooo! Yeah, fuck helping that chick. We're just here to gawk at crazies!"
Also, that girl did not play the game Phil requires all his victims to play, and he could tell she might be a problem for him so he sent her away. Real "professional" behaviour there.
Hearing you call Bailey a “21-year-old survivor” without hesitation was very meaningful to this 24-year-old survivor.
That's what I was thinking the whole time. Bailey is a victim, not a problem to laugh at.
I was abused by my therapist for two years. Due to certain circumstances, she had complete control over my healthcare and large influence over my family. Phil's behaviour here--the gaslighting, the acting offended for the slightest questioning, the mocking--hits extremely close to home. My ex-therapist is now fortunately out of the field, but I feel for this girl, going through the same in front of millions of people who point and laugh at her suffering and drink up her trauma for entertainment.
I'm sorry you had to go through that. I also had a therapist who emotionally manipulated me and gaslighted me. Given her position she completely had the upper hand. It's so eerie seeing the way Phil acts on the show because it's the way she acted to a t. It's so sad that these kinds of people exist in a field where care for the patient is the primary objective.
I'm glad you've escaped. This video could have used a CW I think. Even not having gone through what you have it was still triggering for me.
@@rosemali3022 it did though? At the beginning? I guess you mean a more formal kind
What did he or she want? Feel horrible for you
@@pahbody5336 oh I see. Yes a formal CW, I could have used a warning in advance.
If Dr. Phil is a therapist, Keemstar is a journalist.
@@ejedwards1678 I trust Keemstar about as much as I trust a good tabloid magazine.
@Tragically Comedic game journalist
@Tragically Comedic Wall Street Journal.
@@ejedwards1678 Holy shit dude. Keemstar, Kotaku?
You don't even know what journalism is at this point
@@Blueskiesnclear He has a point. Kotaku is still seen as journalism and Keemstar's shit is somewhat better. However terrible he may be, Keem is still more of a journalist than Dr. Phil is a therapist.
This shit always reminds me why i keep rewatching Kitchen Nightmares when i want over dramatic reality TV. A fucking chef has more empathy for people violating safety standards than this supposed "therapist"
This clip was shockingly cruel. Never seen "doctor" Phil before. He's a monster.
@Incel Kingdom oh man, you had to remind me that dude.... exists.
I'm so tired of our society.
1st principle of all health practitioners is this:
Do no harm.
People who study psychology and act like this doesn't apply to them disgust me, and doubly so if they dare call themselves "Doctor"
Dr. Phil is a lot like Dr. Oz. Occasionally, by pure chance, he actually helps someone, but most of the time being a literal snake oil salesman would be more helpful, because the placebo effect is actually pretty strong.
@@dynamicworlds1 Fun fact: "Dr. Phil" is not a doctor, of psychology or anything else.
@Incel Kingdom What’s wrong with Jordan Peterson? Politics aside, he seems to share very helpful ideas regarding psychology.
"im not here to make a spectacle of you... on my daytime talkshow, where i embarrass and humiliate you on television for the nation to watch"
you cannot conduct ethical effective therapy in one session that you broadcast to millions of strangers to watch and judge. dr phil isnt a therapist, hes a bully with a phd.
@@everfluctuating dude's got a phd??? for real??
@@jeyyran He does not, don’t worry
@@jeyyran he has a Ph. D in clinical psychology. He stopped renewing his license to practice in 2006 so he has no authority to diagnose or treat anyone.
Yeah. Such an absolutely ridiculous comment from him. No spectacle, no show. Common sense alert...
I hate “Dr.” Phil so much.
You can’t “debunk” people’s delusions because by definition, delusions are something people believe regardless of how many facts go against them. They are deeply held beliefs that defy reality and cannot simply be dissipated with “facts and logic”.
He knows that. I know that he 100% knows that. He doesn’t “debunk” these people’s delusions with any intent on actually getting through to them. He is doing so for the entertainment of the audience so they can laugh at the crazy people who don’t realize how obviously wrong they are.
It’s a modern day freakshow poorly disguised as something akin to therapy.
Yeah, I have a hard time watching him because it's so cringe watching him talk to mentally ill people. These people need meds and real doctors; you don't ask a person with broken legs how not walking is "working out for them?" Mental illness isn't bad personality traits, they're symptoms of malady. I hate that mental illness is treated like 'Haha, look at this freak!" when the scientific reality is that they're not capable of thinking any other way without help.
This is like modern day Bedlam: people go to laugh at the mentally ill for entertainment.
@@Droemar I think this show - and the way it makes a spectacle and joke of people's mental illness for profit - is going to be looked back on in the future the same way we look back on old circus freak shows and acknowledge how cruel it was that people with physical disabilities or differences were put on display for others to laugh at.
"Debunking" is, and always will be, something that people do for entertainment of people who already agree with you. Be it delusions, conspiracy theories or religions, the chance of actually convincing anybody through this sort of antagonistic approach is infinitesimal. If anything, it's more likely to only reinforce their beliefs.
And I don't mean to say that "debunking" is always bad. It's a fun thing to do sometimes, I love me some Captain Disillusion, it can be an interesting and intellectually challenging activity to engage in.
But we shouldn't pretend like it's actually doing any good in solving problems or conflicts. You won't convince a woman with delusions of pregnancy with a piece of plastic any more than you could prove the existence of god to an atheist by citing an old book.
Facts may not care about my feelings, but the fact is, the feeling is mutual. My feelings don't care about facts either. And I feel that no fact can change that.
@@Michoss9 preach that!! I always hated the "facts dont care about your feelings" argument, it always just felt like an excuse to be awful and then write it off as being logical and levelheaded, while casting the other person off as crazy and overreacting. I think that bit about feelings also not caring about facts is really well put, because people seem to forget that. It's true that facts don't care about feelings, but feelings don't care about facts either, and people like Dr Phil dont seem to understand that
Not to mention any real clinical psychologist would tell you that by trying to debunk a delusion, you only reinforce it and make you as seen as part of the problem. The delusional person puts you in the camp of "other", "enemy", "deceiver". You can't build trust on that, and you can't help a person without trust.