I've been using the Slow HellCat with (obviously) Helicath - Fahrakin - Doompriest - Anax - Ronda. I've been adamant that I'm going to get this to 1key UNM CB... And I made it happen today! It's still R&G dependent but I think I'm going to get it consistent once I pick up Dark Kael. I should get him next DT rotation... Love making things work over and above what is thought possible and big thanks to DWJ and team along with all the other big brains putting this stuff together! You're all awesome sauce!
I made a 1key budget unkillable for unm without ally attack.Dracomorph,Vizier,Geo, MANEATER and pain keeper that's my main account.. my ftp is a slow helicath team without block or remove debuff and I think it can potentially 1 key unm.Helicath,Anax,poisen kitty,Michinaki and Ronda
Being able to do this team with any speed aura champ sure opens up the options. Thinking about Cardiel; could build everyone else with 70% crit rate and throw the rest into crit damage. Plus the ally attack for extra damage.
Love the content man. Im in the same boat on the clan boss situation. And watching your videos has been a huge help to 2key nm. Still struggling with unm though
Kavalax was my 1st leggo! Awesome champ! Used him in a myth heir comp. Along with deacon and seeker. I would swap in Geo against spirit. 1 key unm and no adjustments against nm and brutal. Very great option as well.
I used to run this exact team I found swapping out geo for fayne or anax really boosted my damage and to deal with spirit affinity I built arch mage Helmut to swap out heiress which if done right demytha will cleanse the stun
I have been running Kalvalax with a Visier in my clan boss unkillable, you can two key UNM, one key NM with those two champs on an unkillable... It usually ends with over 50 turns of poison on 10 different poisons... thats about 500k per turn... or 25 million in damage just from poison... Whole team is Kalvalax, Vizier, Doom Priest, Roshcard, Helicath...
I have a huge question. I am running a team that can one key Nightmare CB it's actually a weird setup it's I am using Cardiel Duchess Helicath Nethril and Ninja on full auto. I am thinking of changing taking out Nethril or Cardiel and placing kalvalax to try to push my team into one keying UNM. Any thoughts?
you have a red affinity champ to prevent heiress from taking the stun. there's a version with Cardiel you might want to check out as an alternative that works great too. But yeah, cardiels excellent.
I used to run the Batman Forever with Septimus and Fat. And Septimus would sometimes have me a full 20 turn debuff bar at the end. I wished the Clan Boss had to detonate all them on himself to do his round 50 hit. But sometimes the decrease defense would fall off and get replaced by a poison. Dropped damage about 20% or so when that happened. Kalvalax has a higher percent chance to extend poison, but that's not on every hit, so probably close to Septimus for poison overall. I replaced Septimus when I got Acrizia, since she produced much higher damage.
@@DeadwoodJedi well, not necessarily because Deacon has the same speed lead as Kalvalax. I used Deacon, Seeker, Demytha, Heiress and Turvold before swapping for a better and more damage build with Lydia, Seeker, Demytha, Turvold and Battlesage. Basically the Cardiel team, but without the Cardiel. Can't go in green UNM because of Battlesage not syncing in in time, but if i happen to face a green UNM then i spaw to Brogni. Can do all NM and Brutal cb with that team. And having a 302 Lydia helps me with my Fireknight farm team. I usually do 92 to 25 million depending on the 1 star Brimstone of Lydia landing or not. So, yes, i would recommend Deacteam over Kalvalax just because of the Def Down, but then i would have chosen someone else instead of Geo even tho he brings the weaken. Not necessarily Ninja because of his high spees requirements, someone who dishes out a lot of raw damage and if they have weaken, then even better. Fayne would be perfect... but then Decaon wouldn't replace Seeker...
You wouldn't want to replace Seeker for Deacon, but rather have them both in the team. Since Deacon and Kalvalax have the same aura, you could bring a good dps into the team who has weaken. Best would be Deacon (lead) Demytha, Heiress, Seeker and a dps, preferably with weaken, so Fayne would be nice
@@DeadwoodJedi Just trying to boost the damage, I have everything for a MythFu with Jintoro and I average ~67M but am trying to get a consistent 1 key with other champs.
If you have any perceptions sets and the lore mastery (the one that looks like a book) it can mess it up, as well as other certain masteries and gear sets
Changing to 19% is fine in calculator until you change Fu character to Kal then nothing is in sync. Trying to also change out Seeker since I don't have one.
I have the Cardiel, Lydia, Demytha, Seeker, Turvold team, but instead of Cardiel, who i don't have, i use Battlesage. Can't do green UNM because the her A2 doesn't line up in time, but can do the other affinities and all on NM and Brutal. I can swap Turvold for Brogni, but that's a huge loss of damage so im keeping it how it is and i usually do my run on reset...
I've been using the Myth-Fu tune with Kalvalax instead for almost a year. It gets the job done and have no need to change it, and without a poison exploder I don't really find Kalvalax valuable anywhere else. Edit: A few extra details. I've got Rhazin in with 4 star smite blessing, Heiress isn't in toxic, and Kalvalax only does A1. No books on Kalvalax. This kind of see-saws his poisons from filling the bar to leaving some gaps sometimes allowing Rhazin to get his debuffs in. I have intentionally left Kalvalax unbooked because I think the extra 15% chance on his A1 would overfill the debuff bar too consistently. I haven't done the maths on it but my feeling is higher damage stats on Heiress and Kalvalax ignoring A2 and A3 in favour of 5% poisons instead of 2.5% from Heiress results in more damage overall. Or it's at the very least comparable without needing good speed on a toxic set.
@@rdm9991 so if kalvalax use only his A1 without being booked he can keep the poison the entire time whitoit needing a secondary poison. Damn that's op.
I built a this same team without a speed aura. 3to1 ratio. 100mil+ on UNM. Anax, heiress, geo in the lead, seeker, and demytha. Toxic sets handed out. Slaps pretty hard.
If you kalvalax has high damage you will do more with the a2 than A3 my kalvalaxs A3 does around 370k and his A2 if there are enough poisons does around 480k but you need to have enough poisons to do all the attacks on A2 otherwise it's best to turn it off
@@AidanKlein-u9t the other champions might make the difference tho! i use kal as leader due to speed cap and also as a poison extender so i got my hands kinda cuffed
@@SaltasarOne fully agree that the a1 is great at keeping the poisons up just wanted to point out that if you can keep the poisons up and do only one of the other attacks I have found that the a2 does more than a3 but that's with all the debuffs required as well
@@AidanKlein-u9t and that’s very interesting tho! Tbh I really like kalvalax, but for most he’s kinda “useful” just to fill the bar with poison which someone else’s gonna pop and that’s it. He’s got so much potential, but unfortunately you need to set his way up and that’s what keeps him behind waves’ melters…
Couldn't you get to even lower speeds using another turn meter booster like arbiter or deacon? I'm sure I'm probably ignorant of something here but I never understood what makes Fu Shan so good for these teams. Edit: My best guess is that he just smacks really hard.
The idea is to bring a damage dealer with a speed aura to make speeds more achievable without giving up damage. There are similar speed tunes with Deacon for speed aura and added turn meter boost which significantly lowers speed requirements, but he doesn't bring damage. However, his decrease defence can still make for very good teams.
I'll give you a team with just 1 turn meter increase champ. Seeker being the only one. That being said, i Use Battlesage for the 19% Speed aura and it won't work on a green UNM cb (works on the other UNM affinities and all affinities of nm and brutal) i do have Lydia on 302 speed for the speed buff and deff and weaken down, but she can be replaced with Heiress since the cooldown is the same. Then i also have Demytha (Key champ) and as my dps i use Turvold, but can be swapped with Fayne for the def down and weaken and poison. Yes, speeds of Lydia at 302 and Demytha at 295 are high, but thats all you need. That's their displayed speed. Battlesage is at 275 (in toxic). Seeker is 211 or 214, Turvold is at 191 and he is my dps. They both are going on a 2-1 ratio with rhat low speed. I do 92-95 million depending on Lydia landing the 1 star Brimstone. Don't think it could drop below 88 million without the Brimstone. Of i somehow face green UNM i just swap Turvold for someone with a block debuffs buff like Brogni tho he does way less damage. But then, i rarely face affinity because i do my run after reset
only missing kalvalax to build this lol. Havn't had the luck to pull deacon, kalvalax or fushan so im trying to get gear together for demy, heiress and seeker with 2 dps with one of them being force so i dont have to do multiple setups. I got Geo and Ninja which i know are amazing but trying to find replacements so i can use them elsewhere with relentless or just tankier, so figured i'd ask here. The dps i've thought: Fenshi + Ronda/Anax/fayne with heiress being in toxic depending on dps setup (can't really find anything about fenshi in this comp so not sure and cant decide between Anax /Fayne, while ronda would bring brimstone i'm not sure about fenshi as a poisoner and he doesn't bring other debuffs) I also have martyr which i could use for counter with fenshi/geo or rhazin when i get him somewhere in the future. might just end up making the high khatun version with ninja/fayne/anax with geo sub on spirit until i get better gear, i just cant decide between fayne and anax lol, some say anax a1 is inconsistent but hits harder.
@@jhhz11 you can use anyone with a speed aura like Kalvalax has, aka 19% in all battles. Battlesage is one of them and she even gives attack up that is protected. Not like the CB can remove it, but it's there. She also cleanses with the same skill don't think she would improve your damage because she doesn't really hit hard, but is an option
Hang in there. As aoon as you can reach just the speeds, getting the damage out is the next step. No matter how crap they hit or how crap the other stats are, just the speed is important
@@biljancanin Hi! Thanks for the comment. I know speed is a big thing, but so is enough ACC. I am currently running a sort of brute force dmg team on CB NM doing 20mil 2key. No brains, just pure dmg. :-)
Been playing for 4 years, have 4 accounts and only got one ME...on the weakest acc, so still at level 50...one day I will have an unkillable team but the champion specific nature of making unkillable seems to be a paywall.
Ive been using Kalvalax in my UNM team for a while. Hes not good in an unkillable double Maneater team....i was doing 2 key UNM and 1 key NM and for the caliber of champ Kalvalax is, its a waste. Brawler does more damage.
I've been using the Slow HellCat with (obviously) Helicath - Fahrakin - Doompriest - Anax - Ronda. I've been adamant that I'm going to get this to 1key UNM CB... And I made it happen today! It's still R&G dependent but I think I'm going to get it consistent once I pick up Dark Kael. I should get him next DT rotation... Love making things work over and above what is thought possible and big thanks to DWJ and team along with all the other big brains putting this stuff together! You're all awesome sauce!
R&G haha
congrats!
I made a 1key budget unkillable for unm without ally attack.Dracomorph,Vizier,Geo, MANEATER and pain keeper that's my main account.. my ftp is a slow helicath team without block or remove debuff and I think it can potentially 1 key unm.Helicath,Anax,poisen kitty,Michinaki and Ronda
Being able to do this team with any speed aura champ sure opens up the options. Thinking about Cardiel; could build everyone else with 70% crit rate and throw the rest into crit damage. Plus the ally attack for extra damage.
Love the content man. Im in the same boat on the clan boss situation. And watching your videos has been a huge help to 2key nm. Still struggling with unm though
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Kavalax was my 1st leggo! Awesome champ!
Used him in a myth heir comp. Along with deacon and seeker. I would swap in Geo against spirit. 1 key unm and no adjustments against nm and brutal. Very great option as well.
I used to run this exact team I found swapping out geo for fayne or anax really boosted my damage and to deal with spirit affinity I built arch mage Helmut to swap out heiress which if done right demytha will cleanse the stun
I have been running Kalvalax with a Visier in my clan boss unkillable, you can two key UNM, one key NM with those two champs on an unkillable... It usually ends with over 50 turns of poison on 10 different poisons... thats about 500k per turn... or 25 million in damage just from poison... Whole team is Kalvalax, Vizier, Doom Priest, Roshcard, Helicath...
I have a huge question. I am running a team that can one key Nightmare CB it's actually a weird setup it's I am using Cardiel Duchess Helicath Nethril and Ninja on full auto. I am thinking of changing taking out Nethril or Cardiel and placing kalvalax to try to push my team into one keying UNM. Any thoughts?
What if I do not have a seeker or geo? Can I replace with something else?
instead of kalvalax or fushan, can i use cardiel? Maybe With cardiel, comp will be affinity friendly?
It's already affinity friendly heiress removes the debuffs at start of each turn
@@forbzinator what if heiress takes the stun? Btw, i asked bec i dont have fushan and kalvalax but cardiel
you have a red affinity champ to prevent heiress from taking the stun. there's a version with Cardiel you might want to check out as an alternative that works great too. But yeah, cardiels excellent.
@@DeadwoodJedithank you. i see turvold on dem-cardiel version, can it be replaced by draco or any other dps?
Dude, i wish i had Cardiel. I use Battlesage instead of him and she's there for 2 reasons. Speed lead and the debuff removal. You're lucky
I used to run the Batman Forever with Septimus and Fat. And Septimus would sometimes have me a full 20 turn debuff bar at the end. I wished the Clan Boss had to detonate all them on himself to do his round 50 hit. But sometimes the decrease defense would fall off and get replaced by a poison. Dropped damage about 20% or so when that happened. Kalvalax has a higher percent chance to extend poison, but that's not on every hit, so probably close to Septimus for poison overall. I replaced Septimus when I got Acrizia, since she produced much higher damage.
Would it be better if you had Deacon to add the decrease def instead of seeker?
better? maybe, but speeds are harder to reach for that.
@@DeadwoodJedi well, not necessarily because Deacon has the same speed lead as Kalvalax. I used Deacon, Seeker, Demytha, Heiress and Turvold before swapping for a better and more damage build with Lydia, Seeker, Demytha, Turvold and Battlesage. Basically the Cardiel team, but without the Cardiel. Can't go in green UNM because of Battlesage not syncing in in time, but if i happen to face a green UNM then i spaw to Brogni. Can do all NM and Brutal cb with that team. And having a 302 Lydia helps me with my Fireknight farm team. I usually do 92 to 25 million depending on the 1 star Brimstone of Lydia landing or not. So, yes, i would recommend Deacteam over Kalvalax just because of the Def Down, but then i would have chosen someone else instead of Geo even tho he brings the weaken. Not necessarily Ninja because of his high spees requirements, someone who dishes out a lot of raw damage and if they have weaken, then even better. Fayne would be perfect... but then Decaon wouldn't replace Seeker...
You wouldn't want to replace Seeker for Deacon, but rather have them both in the team. Since Deacon and Kalvalax have the same aura, you could bring a good dps into the team who has weaken. Best would be Deacon (lead) Demytha, Heiress, Seeker and a dps, preferably with weaken, so Fayne would be nice
@@DeadwoodJedi Just trying to boost the damage, I have everything for a MythFu with Jintoro and I average ~67M but am trying to get a consistent 1 key with other champs.
I have these speeds and built the team but they don’t sync up? Can you help me understand why
If you have any perceptions sets and the lore mastery (the one that looks like a book) it can mess it up, as well as other certain masteries and gear sets
If anyone could explain why does seeker have 4k attack as a defense unit and whys that a good thing?
damage is based on atk - you can see it in the skill description
What must be done to this team to beat spirit clan boss? Team keeps failing. Is it just a resistance issue?
What does heiress do?
Changing to 19% is fine in calculator until you change Fu character to Kal then nothing is in sync. Trying to also change out Seeker since I don't have one.
I noticed Myth Fu was viable with Ninja. Is this specific comp also viable with Ninja? I still haven't mastered how to read the calculator 100%.
yeah - this IS the myth fu, just changing some champs and adjusting speeds accordingly ;)
@@DeadwoodJedi Great man, thanks.
Thank you for your videos; you are a great help to the whole community.
I have the Cardiel, Lydia, Demytha, Seeker, Turvold team, but instead of Cardiel, who i don't have, i use Battlesage. Can't do green UNM because the her A2 doesn't line up in time, but can do the other affinities and all on NM and Brutal. I can swap Turvold for Brogni, but that's a huge loss of damage so im keeping it how it is and i usually do my run on reset...
I've been using the Myth-Fu tune with Kalvalax instead for almost a year. It gets the job done and have no need to change it, and without a poison exploder I don't really find Kalvalax valuable anywhere else.
Edit: A few extra details. I've got Rhazin in with 4 star smite blessing, Heiress isn't in toxic, and Kalvalax only does A1. No books on Kalvalax. This kind of see-saws his poisons from filling the bar to leaving some gaps sometimes allowing Rhazin to get his debuffs in. I have intentionally left Kalvalax unbooked because I think the extra 15% chance on his A1 would overfill the debuff bar too consistently. I haven't done the maths on it but my feeling is higher damage stats on Heiress and Kalvalax ignoring A2 and A3 in favour of 5% poisons instead of 2.5% from Heiress results in more damage overall. Or it's at the very least comparable without needing good speed on a toxic set.
Why not activate kalvalax A2 and A3. I don't have him so i don't know much about him but i heard they do crazy dmg especially in cb
@@ghassanehali381 cause kalvalax A1 can extend poison debuffs, that way you will keep em up whole fight.
@@rdm9991 so if kalvalax use only his A1 without being booked he can keep the poison the entire time whitoit needing a secondary poison. Damn that's op.
@@ghassanehali381 gotta be honest, is debuff extending is not too reliable but if everything goes right he can actually keep poison up
Diffed by shard pulls. Must need some kind of exploder... like a teodor? 🤣
I built a this same team without a speed aura. 3to1 ratio. 100mil+ on UNM. Anax, heiress, geo in the lead, seeker, and demytha. Toxic sets handed out. Slaps pretty hard.
broo i got all those champs. need to know your stats mate. im still 2 keying UNM.
I run this exact team right now, but not hitting 1 key with it. This at least confirms i have a gear issue, and that its possible. Thanks!
Great video! FinallyHeSleeps also did a video on this a few months ago! Guess great minds think alike 😎
I know a guy who ran a FuShan-less MythFu. Good guy, very smart in raid
lol
Being approached by such a legend of the underworld like the Grim Reaper 👀😈
how do I contact you regarding a CB team
Dammit 3 years of playing still no seeker I can't just believe it
On a kalvalax comp. I believe it’s better if you turn off the a2 trying to maximize the poison extension…
ah! good to know - still don't have him !
If you kalvalax has high damage you will do more with the a2 than A3 my kalvalaxs A3 does around 370k and his A2 if there are enough poisons does around 480k but you need to have enough poisons to do all the attacks on A2 otherwise it's best to turn it off
@@AidanKlein-u9t the other champions might make the difference tho! i use kal as leader due to speed cap and also as a poison extender so i got my hands kinda cuffed
@@SaltasarOne fully agree that the a1 is great at keeping the poisons up just wanted to point out that if you can keep the poisons up and do only one of the other attacks I have found that the a2 does more than a3 but that's with all the debuffs required as well
@@AidanKlein-u9t and that’s very interesting tho! Tbh I really like kalvalax, but for most he’s kinda “useful” just to fill the bar with poison which someone else’s gonna pop and that’s it.
He’s got so much potential, but unfortunately you need to set his way up and that’s what keeps him behind waves’ melters…
Couldn't you get to even lower speeds using another turn meter booster like arbiter or deacon? I'm sure I'm probably ignorant of something here but I never understood what makes Fu Shan so good for these teams.
Edit: My best guess is that he just smacks really hard.
The idea is to bring a damage dealer with a speed aura to make speeds more achievable without giving up damage. There are similar speed tunes with Deacon for speed aura and added turn meter boost which significantly lowers speed requirements, but he doesn't bring damage. However, his decrease defence can still make for very good teams.
I'll give you a team with just 1 turn meter increase champ. Seeker being the only one. That being said, i Use Battlesage for the 19% Speed aura and it won't work on a green UNM cb (works on the other UNM affinities and all affinities of nm and brutal) i do have Lydia on 302 speed for the speed buff and deff and weaken down, but she can be replaced with Heiress since the cooldown is the same. Then i also have Demytha (Key champ) and as my dps i use Turvold, but can be swapped with Fayne for the def down and weaken and poison. Yes, speeds of Lydia at 302 and Demytha at 295 are high, but thats all you need. That's their displayed speed. Battlesage is at 275 (in toxic). Seeker is 211 or 214, Turvold is at 191 and he is my dps. They both are going on a 2-1 ratio with rhat low speed. I do 92-95 million depending on Lydia landing the 1 star Brimstone. Don't think it could drop below 88 million without the Brimstone. Of i somehow face green UNM i just swap Turvold for someone with a block debuffs buff like Brogni tho he does way less damage. But then, i rarely face affinity because i do my run after reset
Also adding brimstone helps.. it's a guaranteed 250k each time it procs..
only missing kalvalax to build this lol.
Havn't had the luck to pull deacon, kalvalax or fushan so im trying to get gear together for demy, heiress and seeker with 2 dps with one of them being force so i dont have to do multiple setups.
I got Geo and Ninja which i know are amazing but trying to find replacements so i can use them elsewhere with relentless or just tankier, so figured i'd ask here.
The dps i've thought:
Fenshi + Ronda/Anax/fayne with heiress being in toxic depending on dps setup
(can't really find anything about fenshi in this comp so not sure and cant decide between Anax /Fayne, while ronda would bring brimstone i'm not sure about fenshi as a poisoner and he doesn't bring other debuffs)
I also have martyr which i could use for counter with fenshi/geo or rhazin when i get him somewhere in the future.
might just end up making the high khatun version with ninja/fayne/anax with geo sub on spirit until i get better gear, i just cant decide between fayne and anax lol, some say anax a1 is inconsistent but hits harder.
anax is best option. he's a beast.
@@DeadwoodJedi Awesome, thanks!
@@jhhz11 you can use anyone with a speed aura like Kalvalax has, aka 19% in all battles. Battlesage is one of them and she even gives attack up that is protected. Not like the CB can remove it, but it's there. She also cleanses with the same skill don't think she would improve your damage because she doesn't really hit hard, but is an option
Great video
Cool display, but for me ... I just do not have the gear to reach those speeds. Although I do have all the champs.
Hang in there. As aoon as you can reach just the speeds, getting the damage out is the next step. No matter how crap they hit or how crap the other stats are, just the speed is important
@@biljancanin Hi! Thanks for the comment. I know speed is a big thing, but so is enough ACC. I am currently running a sort of brute force dmg team on CB NM doing 20mil 2key. No brains, just pure dmg. :-)
I made a 1 key unm budget unkillable team without ally attack. Vizier,Drakomorph,Geo, Maneater and pain keeper
I hoping by year 2 i pull good enough champs to do UNM
Been playing for 4 years, have 4 accounts and only got one ME...on the weakest acc, so still at level 50...one day I will have an unkillable team but the champion specific nature of making unkillable seems to be a paywall.
Like shaved Deadwood
Good bro
Ive been using Kalvalax in my UNM team for a while.
Hes not good in an unkillable double Maneater team....i was doing 2 key UNM and 1 key NM and for the caliber of champ Kalvalax is, its a waste. Brawler does more damage.