MikeTheLegend - Yep, it is. But, like all of us, can not a crummy Group A Sooba-barbu hope and dream that one day it might become something greater... It's an aspirational thumbnail. Very modern. Right on. Yay, etc. ;-)
@@scottiusnevious5143 Henri toivonen and his co driver Sergio cresta were killed on the tour de corse in 1986,group b was discounted at the end of that season.
back then if you flew off the road you just got back on it, today in wrc if you get out of bouds even a little something is going to break xD group b was what rallye really is. fun, dangerous, deadly and awesome!
Like in Portugal 1986 when a mother and child got swept away by a RS200? Instantly dead? Rally - Fun - Dangerous : Yes But it should not be deadly. People were stupid standing in the corners waiting for the car to touch them. A child can't decide what is dangerous or not...the parents on the other hand... But yes, I agree. Group B was real rally!
Airborne I know there was some really sad accidents back then, and the reason it was shut down was beacause of that, not only the people on the side of the road was at risk but the deathtoll amongst the drivers where steadily going upwards. that's why I want then to take it back in this modern day and age. the technology in the cars today can handle the forces that they put out much better and the security around rallye as a whole is far more inportant than it was back then :)
Emil Westgaard Henriksen your wrong my friend,if you went off the road then ,you ploughed 100 idiot spaniards or dumb Portuguese over that were crowded on the outside of a corner ,with there children,crazy bastards.cars were awesome ,spectators were fools.sorry but that's the truth !!!
La WRC c'est pour les garçons le Groupe B était pour les hommes signiez Juha Kankkunen et il avait raison . Compare la Citroën DS3 WRC et ma voiture préférer la Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 évo 1 et 2 je prend la 205 sans hésiter la DS3 WRC c'est de pure merde et sans parler de ce LOEB de merde, Timo Salonen, Ari Vatanen et Juha Kankkunen pilotes de la 205 la c'était des vrai pilotes . VIVE LES GROUPE B .
+EternalBreizh każdy kto chociaż trochę interesuje się rajdami powinien wiedzieć że grupa B to jest max!!! a dzisiejsze WRC to tylko to co zostało po pym....
Ngaari ici cia group B ciari thii muno. Nguririkana ngiciona riria ciokaga kuhanyuka guku bururi ini uyu witu wa Kenya. Mahitia manene niuria kiama kia mahenya ma gari cia mathako kwa ritwa FISA maninire mahenya ma ngaari ici.
Do you think that, with the creation of safer lightweight materials like carbon fiber and the addition of crowd control barriers, it is possible to recreate another Group B style rally division?
+GreenHornet553 You are right......And there NEVER will be the same adrenaline, the same heart to all of this...In my opinion Motorsport is death...........Safer, Safer, Safer............it's more dangerous to get to the Racetrack :(
AlmightyMalachi - I don't think it'll happen. I remember at the time that the drivers complained that the monster performance just wasn't safe on public roads and - even with pace notes - they were still 10% behind their over-stressed cars, reaction-time-wise. Group B cars were startlingly low-tech in modern terms - real pigs, dogs, donkeys and tractors to drive. It took tremendous courage to push them to the limit (which is why they still arouse so much passion and excitement); but so many wonderful drivers were killed. I suppose that the nearest thing to what you describe would be Rallycross cars, which were/are basically souped-up, lightened Group Bs running on 'safe' mixed surface tracks. Top class Rallycross machines have all the carbon/kevlar stuff you mention + trick diffs, traction control, weird electronics, 800+ bhp engines, and all the other gubbins that still somehow fails to capture hearts and minds like the glorious but terrifying Group Bs. I'm very, very grateful that so much original VHS footage survived long enough to be digitised for UA-cam posterity! Nice question, by the way. :-)
I don't know who is crazier.the drivers or the loony tunes who line the roads.looks exiting though.europeans are just as crazy as we are.must be all those wars theve had.
C'était des caisses de malade quand même. dans les 600 cv si mes souvenirs sont bons et moins de 2 secondes pour 0 à 100 km/h! C'est pas pour être chauvin mais le son de la 205... pouhh !!
+Eternalix C'est clair, mon Dieu qu'est-ce qu'elles étaient belles et bruyantes !! Et en plus elles gagnaient ! Entre mi-84 et 86 la 205 T16 a quand même fait la misère aux audi, lancia et ford... même si les jacky ont tendance à l'oublier aujourd'hui...
@@FilaMan74 - Thanks for picking up on that! Micky Mutton (close enough...) was/is a terrific competitor. She put in an awful lot of development work as a test 'pilot' on the early Quattro and did well as a pro Audi works driver. I remember her talking about trying to master left foot braking to keep the awful clunky turbo on song; it was an entirely new skill back then, and she was in at the start. Stig and Hannu, Walter and all the rest of the guys admired her guts and skill. Hard as nails; no quarter asked or given! Happily, plenty of video of her efforts survives, so her place in history (and on UA-cam) is assured. :-)
Si j'ai bien compris la FIA a stoppé le Groupe B pour des raisons de sécurité. Mais cela n'a pas arrêté les morts en Rallye (ni en rallye raid) donc ce fut une décision triste et inefficace.
+Vincent C Je pense qu'il y a surement moins de mort en rallye aujourd'hui qu'a cette epoque mais c'est vrai que c'est dommage d'avoir clôturer ce groupe...
I'm w o this sport but hooked just the same. One question, why do the spectators stand so close and sometimes even on the track? Haven't seen this in other sports. I should think it would be detrimental to both the fans and the drivers as well. Are the teams responsible should a spectator be hurt during an accident. I love it though when the fans help get the car on its way again. I see some even have staps with them where they hook on a collectively pull the team out of a mishap and get them on their way.
![Rallye Monte-Carlo 1986 | Group B [Passats de canto] (Telesport)](/img/n.gif)
Not entirely sure why but ive been cycling through group b videos for the past week after work.
Yup, saw it once and here i am
both of you are welcome
BRRAAAPPP STU-STU-STU BRRRAA BRRAAAAPPP STU-STU-STU-STU-STU BBBRRRRAAAAPPPPP!!!! A song that speaks to my soul....
Zeke770 lol oh yees! Braaap stu-stu-stu its exactly that lol. You just forgive the PA-PA. Braaapp braaap pa pa braaaap stu stu stu
Those Renault 5 Turbo (8:04) are in my opinion one of the coolest cars ever build
Hoo yeah! Jean Ragnotti was a total nutter and very, very fast; every modern-day boy racer with a so-called hot hatch owes him £1,000,000. ;-)
The Subaru in the thumbnail is group A...
MikeTheLegend yeah... I really don't understand why he used it
MikeTheLegend - Yep, it is. But, like all of us, can not a crummy Group A Sooba-barbu hope and dream that one day it might become something greater... It's an aspirational thumbnail. Very modern. Right on. Yay, etc. ;-)
That and the years on the video everyone stopped after Henri and his co driver crash and died in 1983, group b legally ended the next year.
@@scottiusnevious5143 Henri toivonen and his co driver Sergio cresta were killed on the tour de corse in 1986,group b was discounted at the end of that season.
And the scort in the beggining is a Gr.4 car
The greatest rally era the world has ever seen. ♡♡♡♡
Yes, but a lot of people had to die to sustain it :(
back then if you flew off the road you just got back on it, today in wrc if you get out of bouds even a little something is going to break xD group b was what rallye really is. fun, dangerous, deadly and awesome!
Emil Westgaard Henriksen much like the enduros from back in the 60s. those guys made the Dakkar contestants look like sissy ninnies
Like in Portugal 1986 when a mother and child got swept away by a RS200? Instantly dead? Rally - Fun - Dangerous : Yes
But it should not be deadly. People were stupid standing in the corners waiting for the car to touch them. A child can't decide what is dangerous or not...the parents on the other hand...
But yes, I agree. Group B was real rally!
Airborne I know there was some really sad accidents back then, and the reason it was shut down was beacause of that, not only the people on the side of the road was at risk but the deathtoll amongst the drivers where steadily going upwards.
that's why I want then to take it back in this modern day and age. the technology in the cars today can handle the forces that they put out much better and the security around rallye as a whole is far more inportant than it was back then :)
Emil Westgaard Henriksen your wrong my friend,if you went off the road then ,you ploughed 100 idiot spaniards or dumb Portuguese over that were crowded on the outside of a corner ,with there children,crazy bastards.cars were awesome ,spectators were fools.sorry but that's the truth !!!
Yea you'd think technology had improved in 40 years... or this comment is bs
Also death shouldn't be a cornerstone of any sport, like wtf is that?
Thank you. So beautiful it brings a tear to my eye.
i love group b!! the cars were savages....
constant goose-bumps...
Nice video...its amazing how clear some of that 30yo footage is....
Mytim34 it's amazing isn't it! the same technique is used for digital enhancement on vhs tapes to DVD from back in the day
+Paul sure is! UA-cam is just great for this! I used to have to stockpile Duke VHS videos and thats slow and takes up half a room!!
I sometimes feel like the film used then is better than todays. I don't know, I just seem mesmerized by the semi-bland colors.
group b had like the most agressive driving ever, so cool
La belle époque pleine de folie !!!
La WRC c'est pour les garçons le Groupe B était pour les hommes signiez Juha Kankkunen et il avait raison . Compare la Citroën DS3 WRC et ma voiture préférer la Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 évo 1 et 2 je prend la 205 sans hésiter la DS3 WRC c'est de pure merde et sans parler de ce LOEB de merde, Timo Salonen, Ari Vatanen et Juha Kankkunen pilotes de la 205 la c'était des vrai pilotes . VIVE LES GROUPE B .
marcel marchand je suuis d'accord avec vous sur tout ce que vous dites ! Mais Loeb reste un des rares pilotes contemporains digne du groupe B
ali riadh En ni repensent je suis d'accord avec vous .
je partage cet avis
This is a super fantastic vid 👌 I really miss group b. 👍
Muy Buen video! lo mejor el sonido de los motores!
I fucking love Group B
+EternalBreizh I just got hooked a couple days ago, I'm completely fascinated by it.
+EternalBreizh każdy kto chociaż trochę interesuje się rajdami powinien wiedzieć że grupa B to jest max!!! a dzisiejsze WRC to tylko to co zostało po pym....
7:50 the best fan reaction ever!
Ngaari ici cia group B ciari thii muno. Nguririkana ngiciona riria ciokaga kuhanyuka guku bururi ini uyu witu wa Kenya. Mahitia manene niuria kiama kia mahenya ma gari cia mathako kwa ritwa FISA maninire mahenya ma ngaari ici.
Do you think that, with the creation of safer lightweight materials like carbon fiber and the addition of crowd control barriers, it is possible to recreate another Group B style rally division?
+GreenHornet553 It's gonna happen sooner or later with rally cars receiving more aero parts and more power year by year
+GreenHornet553 You are right......And there NEVER will be the same adrenaline, the same heart to all of this...In my opinion Motorsport is death...........Safer, Safer, Safer............it's more dangerous to get to the Racetrack :(
+GreenHornet553 it would be like wearing condoms.safer yes.more fun no.
nah, not happening. Everything is about being "politically correct" now, if not sterile
AlmightyMalachi - I don't think it'll happen. I remember at the time that the drivers complained that the monster performance just wasn't safe on public roads and - even with pace notes - they were still 10% behind their over-stressed cars, reaction-time-wise. Group B cars were startlingly low-tech in modern terms - real pigs, dogs, donkeys and tractors to drive. It took tremendous courage to push them to the limit (which is why they still arouse so much passion and excitement); but so many wonderful drivers were killed.
I suppose that the nearest thing to what you describe would be Rallycross cars, which were/are basically souped-up, lightened Group Bs running on 'safe' mixed surface tracks. Top class Rallycross machines have all the carbon/kevlar stuff you mention + trick diffs, traction control, weird electronics, 800+ bhp engines, and all the other gubbins that still somehow fails to capture hearts and minds like the glorious but terrifying Group Bs. I'm very, very grateful that so much original VHS footage survived long enough to be digitised for UA-cam posterity! Nice question, by the way. :-)
i had NEVER seen a sport quattro s1 without the hb team livery 1:46
4:39 that peugeot have a frontal look that hypnotize
Carros lindos e com mts cavalos de potência para o rally,é fixe velos a passar para quem gosta de rally.
Must be so frustrating for pilot, so many people around.
they complained about it endlessly, the FIA did nothing about it and we lost group b forever because of it
ça c'etait du vrai Rallye,des vraies voitures.
The lancia integrales is some machine 👍😀
Elles étaient toutes survitaminées .... Mais ma préférée reste la 205 T16, sans doute pas chauvinisme :p
7:47 best part
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Group B but the screenshot is from an Impreza group A, nice!
Highly recommended to watch while high
Yeah man! The same!!! 😁
I don't know who is crazier.the drivers or the loony tunes who line the roads.looks exiting though.europeans are just as crazy as we are.must be all those wars theve had.
C'était des caisses de malade quand même. dans les 600 cv si mes souvenirs sont bons et moins de 2 secondes pour 0 à 100 km/h!
C'est pas pour être chauvin mais le son de la 205... pouhh !!
+Eternalix C'est clair, mon Dieu qu'est-ce qu'elles étaient belles et bruyantes !! Et en plus elles gagnaient ! Entre mi-84 et 86 la 205 T16 a quand même fait la misère aux audi, lancia et ford... même si les jacky ont tendance à l'oublier aujourd'hui...
This was for MEN!
...and ONE WOMAN!
@@FilaMan74 - Thanks for picking up on that! Micky Mutton (close enough...) was/is a terrific competitor. She put in an awful lot of development work as a test 'pilot' on the early Quattro and did well as a pro Audi works driver. I remember her talking about trying to master left foot braking to keep the awful clunky turbo on song; it was an entirely new skill back then, and she was in at the start. Stig and Hannu, Walter and all the rest of the guys admired her guts and skill. Hard as nails; no quarter asked or given! Happily, plenty of video of her efforts survives, so her place in history (and on UA-cam) is assured. :-)
tanto fast and furius ya podian sacar peliculas de los grupo B
Portuguese spectators FTW! what they didn't had in brains, they made up by having huge balls! xD
Carlos Alberto Vieira Fernandes lmao
Carlos Alberto Vieira Fernandes ahah
Monsters 😍
should be called Group I, the "I" standing for Insane
Didn’t realise Subaru were in Group B
We build and rebuild
I brividi.
🔝🔝🔝
B as in BADASS
Si j'ai bien compris la FIA a stoppé le Groupe B pour des raisons de sécurité. Mais cela n'a pas arrêté les morts en Rallye (ni en rallye raid) donc ce fut une décision triste et inefficace.
+Vincent C Je pense qu'il y a surement moins de mort en rallye aujourd'hui qu'a cette epoque mais c'est vrai que c'est dommage d'avoir clôturer ce groupe...
C'est aussi pour la sécurité des pilotes eux mêmes!
1:00 cutting cornet HARD
What's the red white and blue Nissan with square flares?
Nissan 240RS
Dakota Groenendal it's a Silvia
I saw this video and I jizzed in my pants
The real group b ended in 1983 so whats with the title?
@15:03 Woah! Fuck!
Then again who gives a shit about V8 for making champs! Group b is the living proof.
5 inline cylinder Audi Quattro for the win
Lino Wathy
+realmoner Correct. Weight, inertia, power, control. Americans still can't get their head around this to this day in car development.
+Sick Git That insult was... random.
Yep. all that hating on small displacement engines that you hear in the U.S........"It's incredible."
I'm w o this sport but hooked just the same. One question, why do the spectators stand so close and sometimes even on the track? Haven't seen this in other sports. I should think it would be detrimental to both the fans and the drivers as well. Are the teams responsible should a spectator be hurt during an accident. I love it though when the fans help get the car on its way again. I see some even have staps with them where they hook on a collectively pull the team out of a mishap and get them on their way.
>group b
>uses group a car on thumbnail
_sigh_
so from where did the americans come?
kari leino nowhere?
🕷🐐🐊
le vrai rallye
portugal!!
Nice video ....How can people be so stupid and stand as many of them did... as If them not have seen a car before.
Subaru "" group b?.
Wrong,
7:45
Mk2 escorts are not gr b cars
LANCIA
Wow ! This .. this is the shit
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