@@wjmsmits to be frank- the MVP system on HoTS is pretty trash. The only real requirement is do damage, get kills, and most of the time is dictated by deaths.
Like holy hell. I thought it Zul'jin gonna end up being the one to throw cause of early "looks like we're throwing", but Azmo did a heavy conscious throw. You can throw this hard by accident.
The Azmodan probably: "My name is Azmodan. I am a macro hero, and I will NOT be helping in your team fighting endeavors. I couldn't possibly be wrong, I got MVP."
Qhira got the silence on her ult, nearly every time you tried to polymorph her in the late game you were in her ult, so the uses were eaten up by the silence, one of those situations where more range on the polymorph might of actually helped
Pally even looked directly at the tooltip that says it silences you, while he was specifically checking it to see what might have prevented it. Hilarious!
I'm gonna assume azmodan had to go to work and gave the computer to his little brother for the last 10 minutes. Cause he seemed good but just started throwing at the end
I *hate* playing these kinds of games, but I *love* watching them unfold from a safe distance, lol. Your Azmodan was really something. I've never liked Brightwing much, either playing her or facing off against her, but this was a fun one. Glad I didn't skip it.
Hey pally, you can see the mount abilities where you would normally able to choose your mount during hero select. Maybe that's interesting for you for the future global hero videos ;)
Changes to Brightwing's cleanse were not added in response to the double healer meta. The across-the-board healer nerfs that ended that meta were done in 2017, the cleanse was added in 2018.
I have played as Stitches with a Brightwing that had invisible friends, and standing still so you aren't visible so the enemy healer walks right up to you when you have gorge....fun times. I can see the same thing with Garrosh.
This is literally every Brightwing game I've played. You keep everyone alive, you isolate and pick people off with your poly, you take every building, but that stupid Azmodan/Falstad/Zagara will just... Throw.
The Azmo throw at the end felt very deliberate. He played just fine up until then, and then it seemed like he just wanted to lose. Trolling? Either way, he definitely didn't deserve that MVP.
Well, they're 18 minutes in, all keeps are down, and core is down to 77%. I'm sure Pally is going to win this, so let me take a big sip of water while I check the timebar.
"Why is hots dead?" Watches this replay, knowing all 9 other players can report azmo, and nothing will happen AND they get mvp, "oh ya, now I remember"
I read the comments before watching. So the entire time I'm like how the hell do they lose this? They are pretty much stomping them.... oh, Azomdan gave the controller to his little brother at the end or had a stroke...
That’s Crazy to hear the pickrates on Hyper shift…. I exclusively play BW with Greater Polymorph and Q build all the way, level 82. Almost 60% winrate. I think it’s the superior way to play her, as a disruptor healer. Nice video though haha!
Yeah, I'm not level 82, but she's my highest healer, and I play greater poly with q as well. There's probably a few times pre-10 I wish I had the shortened cooldown on z, but I never really feel I need that extra healing if I can keep the damage dealer silenced the entire fight.
I feel like there was an Azmodan like this one in every single QM game I played... Seems to me that this "on fire" mechanic that happens when you're playing a hero as they should be played makes some people really zero in on keeping that flame up even when it's time to readjust based on the circumstances...
Palllyyyy you always forget to mention that if you land the middle of BW’s Q, it instantly lets out a pulse of soothing mist. Sucks about the loss though. That Azmo was running around like a chicken with its head cutoff.
If memory serves correctly, Emerald Wind was the least popular Heroic when B'wing first came out. Then the passive healing was buffed, and everyone chose it, THEN the more recent nerfs to Emerald Wind occurred, and people have transitioned back to Blink Heal. I know this because I play Brightwing, and Emerald Wind has been my favourite Heroic since the beginning. I was quite shocked to hear how low the pick rate for Emerald Wind is now in the video...
Pretty much the only map I don't default to hypershift is spider butts, and even then the enemy team needs some hard engage to justify taking greater polymorph.
8-3 now following you builds. I had crazy healing but something felt weird about the trait. It wasn't removing jaina roots. I'd pop it after the root landed but I'd still be rooted.
tbh i think they should make the cooldown reduction from hyper shift baseline cause that part of the talent makes overshadows the others in the tier edit: when you were trying to poly quira, her ult silenced you, thats why you couldnt do it
"Real big problem with the double support meta ruling over everything, having one healer healing the team and another healing the healer" The contributing things imo was that the healers were either single target healing or AoE healing, almost never good at both. Hypercarries were insanely good so having one healer dedicated to just keeping them alive (and hyper aggressive). Chaining CC was _so_ effective at defending against aggression. It didn't really allow picks to happen, which MOBA communities absolutely hate not being able to delete someone out of a team fight immediately.
That Amzo getting mvp hurt my soul. No one should get awarded for playing so terribly when it really matters, especially in a team fight heavy game on a team fight heavy map.
They could make the reduce teleport cooldown as her baseline then make hyper shift reduce a bit more cooldown. But I don’t know if that will help. She could be much stronger tho.
Almost every QM game vs a butcher that goes too long. It very quickly turns into a stomp because players get bored or complacent. Then the staggering starts and he starts to ramp up so fast.
Bruh. The core was at 12% and Azmo could have walked over and ended. But he retreated to defend against DK and died at your core. Then he gets MVP for losing the game. Ha. To be fair, probably didn't help that Zera disconnected multiple times. But even so, wow.
You can't cleanse your allies out of the The Butcher ult because it's an actual thing on the ground. Just like you can't cleanse the slow from Stitches' fart juice.
"A series of unfortunate events..." Azmodan. You mean Azmodan.
i was just about to type this i feel like if people know its pally this just turn their brains off
And to add insult to injury he gets MVP, lol.
@@wjmsmits to be frank- the MVP system on HoTS is pretty trash.
The only real requirement is do damage, get kills, and most of the time is dictated by deaths.
hurts to see a dude throw a game and still get mvp.....
Like holy hell. I thought it Zul'jin gonna end up being the one to throw cause of early "looks like we're throwing", but Azmo did a heavy conscious throw. You can throw this hard by accident.
It was painful to watch that azmodan walk away from the shrine and get a merc camp…. Why….
The Azmodan probably: "My name is Azmodan. I am a macro hero, and I will NOT be helping in your team fighting endeavors. I couldn't possibly be wrong, I got MVP."
OUCH, that MVP was painfull to see....
Macro is important but knowing when to macro and when to team fight is critical
Azmo is garbage
@@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty in this case good macro meant to be going for that core backdoor plan that they had
Qhira got the silence on her ult, nearly every time you tried to polymorph her in the late game you were in her ult, so the uses were eaten up by the silence, one of those situations where more range on the polymorph might of actually helped
I like the polymorph range talent bc of the cdr
Pally even looked directly at the tooltip that says it silences you, while he was specifically checking it to see what might have prevented it. Hilarious!
Well its true Azmodan was the most valuable player, to the other team....
Oh my, the classic Quick Match experience! Azmodam single handedly throwing the game, yet getting awarded MVP because he died the least! :'D
"Looks like it's only a matter of time 'till the friendly team is victorious."
Then Quick Match happens.
I'm gonna assume azmodan had to go to work and gave the computer to his little brother for the last 10 minutes. Cause he seemed good but just started throwing at the end
Nah, a little brother would probably push lane no matter what, just based on not knowing what else to do.
That teleport to the dingo just as his unkillable expired was perfectly timed
I *hate* playing these kinds of games, but I *love* watching them unfold from a safe distance, lol. Your Azmodan was really something.
I've never liked Brightwing much, either playing her or facing off against her, but this was a fun one. Glad I didn't skip it.
Hey pally, you can see the mount abilities where you would normally able to choose your mount during hero select. Maybe that's interesting for you for the future global hero videos ;)
Changes to Brightwing's cleanse were not added in response to the double healer meta. The across-the-board healer nerfs that ended that meta were done in 2017, the cleanse was added in 2018.
I have played as Stitches with a Brightwing that had invisible friends, and standing still so you aren't visible so the enemy healer walks right up to you when you have gorge....fun times. I can see the same thing with Garrosh.
This is literally every Brightwing game I've played. You keep everyone alive, you isolate and pick people off with your poly, you take every building, but that stupid Azmodan/Falstad/Zagara will just... Throw.
The Azmo throw at the end felt very deliberate. He played just fine up until then, and then it seemed like he just wanted to lose. Trolling? Either way, he definitely didn't deserve that MVP.
Well, they're 18 minutes in, all keeps are down, and core is down to 77%. I'm sure Pally is going to win this, so let me take a big sip of water while I check the timebar.
Azmodan getting MVP was the biggest middle finger of that game
Even when the game goes poorly your videos are still a pleasure to watch. Looking forward to more :)
Khira going for the lv 20 silence kept you from polymorphing her
What the end screen doesn't tell you is that Azmodan was the MVP for the enemy team
I don't think it was mentioned. Hitting q on centre procs passive aoe heal. This was a change added awhile back
Did Azmodan switch teams or something?
DIngo: Let's fake a fight and backdoor
Also Dingo when the whole enemy team is at mid: I can't just walk there
it seems Azmo could though
I've never seen so many clutch heals in a game. Your playing was great.
that azmo played a single player game
"Why is hots dead?" Watches this replay, knowing all 9 other players can report azmo, and nothing will happen AND they get mvp, "oh ya, now I remember"
Azmo did his best dunking and throwing Qs as well as the game. I feel sorry for you, Pally.
I read the comments before watching. So the entire time I'm like how the hell do they lose this? They are pretty much stomping them.... oh, Azomdan gave the controller to his little brother at the end or had a stroke...
Glad you are still doing these vids.
We know your pain Pally…..we all HOTS players have team mates like this Azmo
Thank you so much for putting up with this series.
Very cool breakdown and comparence between healers. Good job Pally 😎👌
I feel like that was Penance for you not finishing the game in the Blaze video.
Always love the content.
Holy shit that Azmodan...
Terrible, terrible plays at the end. Just running around doing absolutely nothing
Seeing Zul'jin in this video makes me so excited for when you play him. Can't wait for that video
That’s Crazy to hear the pickrates on Hyper shift…. I exclusively play BW with Greater Polymorph and Q build all the way, level 82. Almost 60% winrate. I think it’s the superior way to play her, as a disruptor healer.
Nice video though haha!
Yeah, I'm not level 82, but she's my highest healer, and I play greater poly with q as well. There's probably a few times pre-10 I wish I had the shortened cooldown on z, but I never really feel I need that extra healing if I can keep the damage dealer silenced the entire fight.
My man Pally doing god's work by lowering brightwing Win Rates
Keep it up my man
"They gave healers a cleanse so u don't need two of them"
What i heard: "healers were so broken that they had to buff them"
I feel like there was an Azmodan like this one in every single QM game I played... Seems to me that this "on fire" mechanic that happens when you're playing a hero as they should be played makes some people really zero in on keeping that flame up even when it's time to readjust based on the circumstances...
Cut Amazing Daniel some slack. He had some pretty darn good dunks before he crapped the bed.
Such an undeserved MVP, only to perpetuate its actions.
Good game tho, i didn't knew hyper shift was so picked, i always take the poly at lvl 1
Palllyyyy you always forget to mention that if you land the middle of BW’s Q, it instantly lets out a pulse of soothing mist.
Sucks about the loss though. That Azmo was running around like a chicken with its head cutoff.
14:35 Dang, that torso toss....
My First Support Main. Back when Spray was activatable.
2021 A-Z Stats - SPOILERS BELOW
W & L Record
Overall - 8 - 4
Ranged Assassins - 1 - 0
Melee Assassins - 1 - 0
Tank - 3 - 0
Bruiser - 0 - 1
Healer - 2 - 3
Support - 1 - 0
MVPs - 3
Abathur, Alarak, Anduin
Wins - Abathur, Alarak, Alexstrasza, Anduin, Anub'arak, Arthas, Azmodan, Blaze
Losses - Ana, Artanis, Auriel, Brightwing
Maps W - L
Cursed Hollow - 1 - 0
Braxxis Holdout - 1 - 0
Blackheart's Bay - 2 - 0
Infernal Shines - 0 - 2
Dragon Shire - 1 - 1
Garden Terror - 1 - 1
Hanamura Temple - 1 - 0
Sky Temple - 1 - 0
If memory serves correctly, Emerald Wind was the least popular Heroic when B'wing first came out. Then the passive healing was buffed, and everyone chose it, THEN the more recent nerfs to Emerald Wind occurred, and people have transitioned back to Blink Heal.
I know this because I play Brightwing, and Emerald Wind has been my favourite Heroic since the beginning. I was quite shocked to hear how low the pick rate for Emerald Wind is now in the video...
god so happy to see a video on Brightwing
❤🔥
Pretty much the only map I don't default to hypershift is spider butts, and even then the enemy team needs some hard engage to justify taking greater polymorph.
Man I miss old damage bw with envenom
hey Pally, when you do cho'galls a-z can you convince Tim to be your otherhead?
BDuz has always been and will always be the best HotS character. That Azmodan player deserves to spend eternity floating through the Twisting Nether.
That was so painful to watch the Azmodan throw the game - you did a great job nonetheless Pally!
8-3 now following you builds. I had crazy healing but something felt weird about the trait. It wasn't removing jaina roots. I'd pop it after the root landed but I'd still be rooted.
In the early years of the game, me and my friends did a 5 healers match and we just destroyed the ennemy team xD one of my best memory of this game
In ARAM that still works!
got to love how the guy who threw the match got mvp
tbh i think they should make the cooldown reduction from hyper shift baseline cause that part of the talent makes overshadows the others in the tier
edit: when you were trying to poly quira, her ult silenced you, thats why you couldnt do it
"Real big problem with the double support meta ruling over everything, having one healer healing the team and another healing the healer"
The contributing things imo was that the healers were either single target healing or AoE healing, almost never good at both. Hypercarries were insanely good so having one healer dedicated to just keeping them alive (and hyper aggressive). Chaining CC was _so_ effective at defending against aggression.
It didn't really allow picks to happen, which MOBA communities absolutely hate not being able to delete someone out of a team fight immediately.
Oh god that twist ending though...
I think stukov and morales are my favorite healer/supports and now brightwing
Please, before the end of the A-Z, open all the loot boxes!
Watching the end of this match hurt my soul and I was screaming for you pally. Total throw cuz people are dumb
That Amzo getting mvp hurt my soul. No one should get awarded for playing so terribly when it really matters, especially in a team fight heavy game on a team fight heavy map.
Great game. You hate to see it but still learned a lot about Brightwing.
They could make the reduce teleport cooldown as her baseline then make hyper shift reduce a bit more cooldown. But I don’t know if that will help. She could be much stronger tho.
She's already a beast
Damn first dragon at 2 minute 30 second :o :o :o :o. That was the fastest 1st dragon i have ever seen.
Azmo just vibin at the end
I'm so excited for next episode.. last time we can say it
This match sums up pug matches in HotS!
I hope to play again. But lately my pc has been messing up so I am having to get a new one.
Keep it up
During closed beta I could 1v2 lanes with BW. She was so strong...
Azmodan this game is a great example that Pokemon Unite is NOT the first MOBA where teammates are completely unable to think about objectives.
I'm so excited butcher's next
Azmodan aside; this went downhill once butch got fed at 19 then the lvl20 ults they got silence.
Throws like this are always so annoying, especially when there is a butcher on enemy team. That's when these happen, if somebody begins slacking.
I'm 17 minutes in... I know how the game ends... and I'm very concerned.
Love those sweet sweet azmodan plays...
Win/Loss: 8-4; 66.7%
Spoilers below:
Wins: Abathur; Alarak; Alexstrasza; Anduin; Anubarak; Arthas; Azmodan; Blaze
Loses: Ana; Artanis; Auriel; Brightwing;
That kind of player. That Azmodan
This is my favorite map to play bw on
Omg that azmodan throw... Had some good dunks but jeez what a tool
how many folks wanna bet that azmo thought to himself "I deserve this award....its unfortunate my teammates held me back from winning"
Wait, you can blink heal to minions?
Almost every QM game vs a butcher that goes too long. It very quickly turns into a stomp because players get bored or complacent. Then the staggering starts and he starts to ramp up so fast.
Bruh. The core was at 12% and Azmo could have walked over and ended. But he retreated to defend against DK and died at your core. Then he gets MVP for losing the game. Ha.
To be fair, probably didn't help that Zera disconnected multiple times. But even so, wow.
Ngl, you had me at the beginning , but I didn't see that ending coming. SMH
Great guide for brightwing, but ending of this game was really painful to watch :D
You look like you're not feeling well, you ok Walter?
Azmodan, MVP for the enemy team. You hate to see it.
I've always been playing polymorph build.
Best healer in the game tbh
The salt was real
Stealth characters, just me or is the current stealth visibility too visible? I miss the old stealth.
If you time it right , Brightwing can cleanse herself from a The Butcher stun
You must know that the Butcher’s ult can’t be cleansed.
at 12:12 you would've died pally, if Nova had TRIPLE Tap.
was that azmodan a bot?? just wild play from him.
Where is butcher video? Cant find it in the list
i get tilted like that in QM too :)
You can't cleanse your allies out of the The Butcher ult because it's an actual thing on the ground. Just like you can't cleanse the slow from Stitches' fart juice.
a dark side of me wants to rip ever single one of those legs from azmodon right now.