Lol, no. Rick believes you can’t learn perfect pitch. This video isn’t about that, it’s relative pitch. Rick believes in that with good ear training. That’s what this guy is doing.
If y'all are struggling on finding a pitch you can memorize, the one I'm using is G which is the first note to Welcome to the Black Parade by My Chemical Romance. If you can listen to that intro in your head, you're set! lol
Amazing video. Love it. I have a very very good ear and I am able to fake perfect pitch, but I don’t really have it. Also, I’m better when I am well rested and for some reason my ear is definitely worse when I have a cold. Strange but true.
I can identify the 6 open strings of the guitar from years of just tuning the guitar, EADGBE, with electronic guitar tuners, then I found out accidentally that I could tune accurately without the tuner because the battery died and I needed to tune up, I've tried to use reference from these notes and found with a little practice I can pick out the notes between. All I need to do is pick out semitone tone minor 3rd and major 3rd away from my reference notes, I'm still working on trying to speed up the process to see how well it works.
I've had perfect pitch since I can remember, and that has led me to sort songs I listen to by key (as a matter of listening pleasure). I already had the sound of middle C ingrained into my head the strongest, so even if I did need to, I could just compare any note I heard to that C and name it just as fast, but now notes also trigger the memories of songs I have sorted into those keys, so I feel like my perfect pitch has actually strengthened as I've got older. But I've never got a note wrong, unless it was some ridiculously low grand piano note with tonnes of overtones, which usually sounds higher than it actually is.
very interesting, thanks for sharing. coincidentally B3 is the highest note I can hit in my mixed voice. I was mentally singing The Backstreet Boys, "I want it that way". The song is in the key of B, I remember it well. I was hitting B really easy from that memory of the actual song. Not even by reference. Certainly something to keep working on. Amazing discovery, Thank you.
BTW, this concept also works great as a good spellcheck. You're doing what I did as a B3 player (the high F through a Leslie distorted in a certain way that stuck in my brain. But I've used this technique since I was 7 or 8 to remember how to spell words. I didn't realize WHAT I was looking at till you nailed it - first impression. Just like baby ducklings! 😎 Thx.
Did anyone else hear that Bb at 3:21 and hear the first note of Chopin's Nocturne op. 9 N.2 instantly? Impressed I was in pitch when I checked it myself. Cool video thanks man!
On the Bb at 3:21 my brain started instantly playing the star spangled banner in the key of Eb On the Eb at 3:43 my brain started playing the intro to Once Again by Tristam LOL the note and the tone are the exact same
I don't have perfect pitch but it's easy to tell notes, chords and progressions fast enough. Most of the time I get the notes correctly when I hear them randomly, and sometimes some notes just tell me: Hi! I am a very perfect E!
Yep! Similar to my method.. So I have a cross reference for every note that I go back and recall on the piano super regularly Each note I assigned a memory or word when I first used it or to match each unique Tonal quality with one so I am able to recall or recreate pitches in my head and when I listen to songs I’m able to pick their melody up on the piano extremely quickly. 12 notes ain’t that much. Remembering those unique tonal qualities on even just 1 or more octaves is useful!!!! Then hearing those in context next to each other helps too!
So, In other words… you found a method to learn relative pitch. NOT PERFECT PITCH. Perfect pitch requires no reference. No thinking about it. No recalling of previous notes. It sounds like some of your friends might have a very well perfected relative pitch, not perfect pitch. Either way, thanks for putting this out there. I’m sure it will benefit many people who might want a short cut to learning relative pitch. Perfect pitch is a rare thing, btw. Not everyone that claims to have it, actually has it. Best of lucks!
Well, being a neuroscience PhD, I would say that at least we know that perfect pitch don't need an reference, but we don't know that much about internal references :)
@@RyanOConnorDrums Relative can still be performed non verbally. Sorry to poke holes in your theory...it's actually a really cool method but it's not developing perfect pitch since someone with perfect pitch doesn't need a reference point, but with your system you need a reference point. Good video though man
@@aaronservice86 I think everyone is missing the fact that I’m very aware this ain’t real perfect pitch. For a while my friends and I called it “diet perfect pitch” and again, the result is the same regardless of whether or not you have “real perfect pitch.” I’m plagiarizing another comment here, but this is quite literally a pissing contest. The fact is that this method works for quite a few people and though it isn’t perfect, the greater understanding of music as a whole is well worth the work imo. Y’all are free to disagree, but close mindedness will forever hold you back as a musician and person.
This video is great; being able to hear a correct note in your head from long-term memory is what perfect pitch really is, and a lot of misconceptions about perfect pitch stem from people not realizing this. If you have this ability, you can think of songs or sounds where you can hear the pitch in your head, then write down and study pitches corresponding to each of them, can even use flashcards. If you can do it for one sound, it's likely that there are other songs/sounds you have in your long term memory that can be labelled. This ability varies from person to person, but generally the more songs/sounds you can commit to your long-term memory, the better your absolute pitch gets. It doesn't matter if you are an adult; if you've had this ability your whole life, you have the ability to develop perfect pitch. It takes practice, and most people with this ability aren't willing to put it the effort because of the myths about how you can only develop perfect pitch if you're very young. I did this at 18 years old, and the speed that I can recognize pitches still improves as I continue to learn with this method; you also start to hear how song keys interrelate, which makes it easier to learn more of them. The earlier you start, the better it can get
UPDATE VIDEO: ua-cam.com/video/CIATiRjwMaY/v-deo.html Hey y’all at 13:12 I misspoke and meant to say MINOR 7TH UP. The lowercase m indicated minor. Thanks! If you’re commenting about the clickbait do everyone a favor and go touch grass
Ryan very interesting and helpful video bro, appreciate it! I tried to think of the first song that would pop into my head where I could clearly hear the original recording, and the opening note to star wars (the 1st movie, 1977 new hope) popped into my head. I didn't even know what note it was, but checked a keyboard and I was dead on (Bb), then I youtube searched the soundtrack, and sure enough it is a Bb. I seem to be able to hear this note very clearly, so this could be a good start (star wars Bb) to working with you relative pitch method from there. Very cool!
@@adamp108 I was wondering the same thing - how consistent I would be, whether I can still hear the correct star wars pitch while other music is playing, etc. I just tried again now, and I was off by a half step (A instead of Bb). Might have to mess around with other song selections in the mix...
so.. I've been playing instruments around 2 years and never did ear training before but, now I feel pretty confident to start after my knowledge on instrument and theory, would you consider this video as a guide to start learning by ear since zero.. or you have any other tip that would be a help?
The essential of this method is to help you internalize 12 notes, mainly based on intervals from two 7th chords. It requires the exercise of course. Some people claim that perfect pitch doesn't need exercise, Can a baby tell you names of color? Only after he/she learns the color name, that is learning. You have to learn and practice.
I figured out after about five years that "true pitch" is the popular invented term for adults who learn perfect pitch somehow (as if it was any different measurably)
I developed "true pitch" consciously. I demonstrate it on the first video I ever posted. Simply identifying single notes. True pitch is just learning to identify the notes on one's own instrument by the subtle differences in timbre from note to note. I usually call it "micro-timbre". I feel like with something like what this guy outlines, it's a little more nebulous, like just reaching with more of a relative pitch sense. With true pitch, each pitch has a very distinct formal uniqueness and there's no need whatsoever to reference any pitches at all. It's Iike each pitch has a unique 3-dimensional physical shape that stands on its own with no need for a reference pitch. Over time, those sounds go beyond the timbre of your own instrument and you begin to hear those unique shapes in any timbre. And particularly with tonalities. Still...I've been doing all kinds of ear training for 20 years and along the way, I also developed something like what he describes here as well. Where I have reference points and melodies that connect the notes to eachother. But that is a different sense than true pitch and its deeper levels. It's like there are 2 dimensions you could call "pitch-location" and "micro-timbre" that together can give one a pretty decent sense of absolute pitch.
@@spacevspitch4028 your description of notes having shapes is SO accurate! When focused enough it’s almost as if you’re able to hear the waveform itself
this is called quasi-perfect pitch, or quasi-absolute pitch, where if you know one note(running joke but some people use their tinnitus as their reference note LMFAO), you can determine all the others. this can be acquired through memorization or repetition of a note, this is often seen in experienced musicians who constantly tune to one note
If someone has one note memorized and they don't need to reference any other note to recall and identify it, what is that? It's not relative pitch because you're not referencing other pitches to remember it. So for all intents and purposes, you have "Perfect pitch" for that one note. This obsession with what is _real_ "perfect pitch" is ridiculous. If you can internalize all 12 pitches in the same way you internalized that first pitch such that you don't need to reference any of them to each other, then you use pitch ID apps to drill identification to the point that it's automatic...at that point, does it matter whether it's "real" perfect pitch or not? You're still recalling and identifying the pitches _absolutely_ . As in you don't need a reference for any of the 12 pitches. Until you can take such a person and subject their brain to MRIs and PET scans, you have no way of knowing whether what's going on in their brain when they recall and identify pitches is any different from someone who you would claim has "real" perfect pitch. So the whole distinction is functionally meaningless. It's a pissing contest. "Bro, that's not _real_ perfect pitch. You just have good pitch memory!" like it matters. If it works it works.
@@spacevspitch4028 Yes it works too, but to be accurate, the two are different phenomenon. The difference is with pitch memory, you recall the note from memory to produce it's sound. In perfect pitch, you don't have it memorize, you just subconsciously know it, it's like there's a trigger when you hear each notes to the point that you can also get annoyed by it. People with really good pitch memory can produce/identify the right notes but they don't have that" trigger" that's why when you let the two hear the same music, the person with perfect pitch will almost always be faster because the one with pitch memory need to process first the information. I don't have perfect pitch, but i have some level of pitch memory (like I couldn't forget G anymore because my favorite piece starts on G). What's interesting is while watching the video and he played the notes Bb and Eb, I heard a specific piece for each (quite vivid in my head, like a trigger) and when I checked, each started with those two notes. So maybe perfect pitch is just a very advanced pitch memory (needs more studies), to the point that you don't need to associate it to an old piece you heard but to the actual sound of the note itself. Also another theory from me is, maybe having relative pitch is a hindrance in learning perfect pitch because your brain focuses on the structure of the music instead of each notes themselves (so maybe one needs to listen "unrelatively"). Because imagine if you need to be young to learn it, maybe your relative pitch is not good yet. Like there's some studies that says infants can learn perfect pitch and I'm sure infanta have no relative pitch yet.
@@ehrenromblon5392 Everything you said I'm very aware of and have worked on myself. It's like any other skill you develop. You work on _until_ it becomes automatic and you don't have to analyze or think about it. You're brain just tells you the note without any effort. I went through this process over many years and I experience it myself on a daily basis. While listening to music or just hearing sounds with definite pitch in nature and things like that. With music It's most pronounced with keys. I can usually tell what key pieces of music are in without effort. I just feel it. And I can follow chord movements and such. There's a difference between relative pitch and absolute pitch hearing and you can tell when you are hearing the absoluteness of a pitch and the relationship of a pitch to the tonal center or the pitches around it. Again, with the right kind of attention and study, the identification and recall of pitches _becomes_ subconscious. Just like driving or identifying colors or reading. It's no different than any other skill. It takes practice.
I agree, in part, but that’s relative pitch. AC/DC Back in Black is in E. Stairway to Heaven is in Am and begins on the A note. Those are also tuning of guitar strings. Sweet Home Alabama is in D. So if you can think those songs, you can tune your guitar. I can hear those notes, but I wouldn’t call it perfect pitch. I still like your thought process on the subject.
Ok, so how do you think of those songs in the correct key to begin with? That's an absolute judgement. There's no way to reference to any other pitches. You have to just _know_ what that first note is. So no, it's not relative pitch. Relative pitch is what you do to get the other pitches _after_ you get the first one with perfect pitch.
It isnt perfect pitch, its relative pitch, but also knowing one note AS perfect pitch. Perfect pitch means you know every note and can hear it WITHOUT a reference note. This is using a reference note. I have perfect pitch so I know how it works.
I figured out I had relative pitch perfectly when I guessed an A by thinking of Tom petty singing I’m “freeee” free fallen. Subsequently knowing g and f with the next word “fallen”
I think that this technique could be paired with Diana Deutsch's "Tritone Paradox" and finding which pitch or pitches would serve people best based on perceived tone height. She found that everybody has innate absolute pitch memory that varies based on many factors. However, there is not a person that it is not consistent in. In simple terms, perfect pitch is (likely) the crossing of the brain's labeling and pitch perception systems. People can usually sing familiar songs in the correct key. Your brain will associate and memorize the starting pitch of the song with the sound of that song in your head. This may be the same mechanism that people with perfect pitch have, but there is no "middle man." I have a version of Deutsch's tritone paradox test that I can send that will help you find your "base." For example, B and C are the highest notes in my mind. I don't know this consciously, but that is what this test can help you figure out.
This instantaneous recognition people are talking about still needs training to some degree. What if you recognize a note, but haven't learned what to call it yet. You aren't going to magically know. Which leads me to believe there must be tons of people out there that have perfect pitch, that don't know they do, because no one ever taught them how to identify the notes - or they never really cared about music. Side note: I have amazing perfect pitch with an Ab because it's the first note in a track I listened to a bajilion times ("Weapon" by Virt from the album FX4), but couldn't guess any of the other 11 right to save my life. If I hear an Ab in that same register, than that song pops up in my head instantly. It can even be a sound on the street that's an Ab - the song instantly begins in my head. Haven't listened to that track in a couple years and this still happens to me. Anyone else have this with maybe just 1 or a couple specific notes?
I suspect I have untrained perfect pitch, I just don't know how to read octave labels. How I am sure it's likely is due to how whenever I listened to Chinese, a tonal language, I can notice different tones pretty easily even though I haven't even spent a day listening to it when watching those linguistic related UA-cam channels.
I love your enthusiasm! Very interesting. So, my question is : if you can remember the subtle feeling and sound of b, then why not do the work ( using the same mental mechanisms that enable that b memory) (and patience), to remember and fix the other notes ?
I don't have perfect pitch but I can identify notes by somehow having a peculiar relation of color to each note since I was young. For example when I hear E I feel like seeing green
Im probably going to clip your explanation around the 12:00 mark and make a subliminal track with harmonics. I have had a theory about the natural resonance of instruments like piano violin and sax. That has high frequency information that is lost in most digital music and low quality media files. I noticed lastime i was listening to harmonics on my guitar that the note frequency can be heard in all octaves and versions of the same note. This would explain why people loose perfect pitch as the get older. Their memory of the sound stays the same but the ears loos the ability to accurately hear those high frequencies so they end up consistently off. With the frequency method after honing in on the texture or tamber of a note i was able to accurately name the buz on my fan or the drone of a car. Then humm in pitch with it and check on a tuner. I was also able to accurately identify the character of several notes randomly on my guitar without theory. I stopped this study because i realized the training would be easier with a real piano. But hearing your system and method. Also some kind of emotional attachment so the note can be felt like when hearing the note recall the overall feeling of its sound.
Honestly, I would just like to develop a decent sense of relative pitch. At some level my brain must be able to tell different intervals apart, because I can learn and recognize specific melodies, and I can distinguish ones that use the same rhythm. But when I hear two notes one after the other, I can't identify the interval, or even say whether it was ascending or descending unless the difference is quite large. I can't tell a third from a fifth, or from a semitone for that matter, by listening. I can't even specifically identify an octave -- I can't tell whether both notes are the "same" note in a different octave, or not, which is something that most music theorists consider extremely fundamental. My ability to recognize melodies, which are made out of intervals, implies that my brain has the potential to learn how to recognize intervals. The information needed to do that must be in my head somewhere. But I can't figure out how to access it.
That’s a LOT harder. If I know the intervals and the starting note, yes. But realistically it’d take me a minute or so to come up with a definitive answer. But at that point, it makes more sense to fixate on the first note and then just use relative to navigate from there.
If you have time, could you consider making a video demonstrating the detailed thought process in you brian on how to identify a note. Describe what goes through you mind in real-time. It would be a very valuable video to understand the method more clearly. I am very curious to know more.
@@michael6813 I get a crazy dopamine rush and that chemical reaction allows me to know that I’m correct. I got good at checking with a tuner and I spent about a week checking every single guess. That led me to start getting stuff right and I just kinda subconsciously started to know what certain notes sound like.
Then that makes it relative pitch. Absolute/perfect pitch means being able to associate the name of the note to the pitch without inferring it by comparison with a reference pitch. Still congrats on your feat! Very imoressive ;)
What he's outlined is a great intro to developing perfect pitch. The next step is to use drones to learn to identify the notes regardless of tonal context. It's difficult to identify single pitches in actual music because almost all Western music has tonal context. So if you can recall and identify C but only as the tonic, then you will get confused when it's the 7th or the b2 of the key the music is in. It'll throw you off. So you have to learn to hear all 12 notes against all 12 key centers each.
The friend that said he was a naturally flat singer was unconsciously wanting to sing in A432hz scientific pitch because it's more natural. We use A440hz as a standar, but it was picked arbitrarily. Animals don't sings or call in A440hz. At all. And neither do we, at heart. But whole "sacred" pitch thing is a whole other subject, so I won't say anymore on that. BUT, what I wanted to share here, and to add to what Ryan is explaining: yes, perfect pitch is an automatic perception (and it can be learned), but there is actually a REASON we have perfect pitch at all. It's because we hear the notes in the same way as we see colors. Like C (red) isn't a color, but it is one of the most fiery an personal notes. Love songs. D is orange. E is yellow. F is line-green. F# is grass green. That is to say, F# and a very open, expansive sound. But also it sounds more distant and detached. Therefore songs of envy are in F an F# (see Mariah Carey's "Can't Let Go." The Baroque and Classical "pastoral" were all in F major. (See Beethoven's "Pastoral Symphony in F.") So, green is both Nature AND Envy (the grass is always greener on the other side). Keep in mind that there are 12 color divisions in the color wheel, just as there 12 notes from C to C. // If you follow the notes as a spectrum, you will also see that the tritone or "devil's interval" matches each color to it's complimentary color. C/red vs tritone F#/green. Opposite colors. Or Orange vs Blue is a tritone of D and Ab. It makes it easy for me to count notes this way because if I want to know the tritone of F (lime-green) i just think of magenta, which is B! I hate to give out these types of "absolute" sort of descriptions of sound because I think it's important that the student learn to hear them on their own. So, what I want to say to the viewers (all A432Hz tuning aside), is that in addition to the exercises explained here, make a journal and write down how one one sounds in comparison to another. You will be amazed at what your ear tells you! My own work with color and SHAPE association can be found here at: _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_ Thanks, Ryan!
@@RyanOConnorDrums Horray! I learned it in the 80's (before the internet!) from Keyboard Magazine. This guy would sell his "David Lucas Burge Ear Training Course."
nice presentation, well spoken, I think you should have put your chart in the beginning instead of talking about it, I think your system is cool and it has merit
When you say to memorize them in order, are we supposed to sing them in order too? Is this beneficial to be able to play music by ear with instruments as well, and not just your singing voice?
The entire purpose of this video is honestly getting the view to begin thinking about and navigating their internal ear. If the concept isn't coming together quite yet, just focus on 1 note and see if you can pick it out in songs you hear. For me, my guitar playing became SO much more musical after developing a better ear, and even if it feels like no progress is being made, keep trying at it. This skill is SUPER advanced and takes a very high amount of persistence!
Do u think I can achieve the same thing if I just use C instead, I already know all the intervals but I don't know how to keep the C reference in my head
you totally can! if I were you i'd try and sing a C each morning when you wake up, then check as soon as you can. You should have it pretty internalized within a few days. If you know any songs in C (somewhere over the rainbow lol) you can just use that as a reference too!
@@RyanOConnorDrums I'm back after 3 months and this has changed me for the better. I've gotten to a level where I don't need a reference for any note. I can recognize any pitch or series of pitches in Leeds than five secs. I can call out the chords from any songs and play back melodies on my guitar and piano in the correct key. It's feels almost instantaneous. I used this so called pitch perfect or to practice everyday and noww I function as if I have absolute pitch. Ty for the tips.
@@countrystore5264 dude I literally have the same thing now!! I did a church service as a drummer yesterday and when I called out an A before the vocalist did I had to explain to everyone that I don’t have perfect lmao. Really solid to hear that everyone I’ve shown this to who’s actually implemented it has successfully learned it - who knows, maybe we can actually standardize this skill within some sort of advanced musical curriculum so it remains reliable and accessible. Super pumped to hear how it’s improved your life!
I have extremely good relative pitch, and it can function as perfect pitch in the same way you describe in this video, but I find it hard to memorise any one note to orient myself on, how did you do this?
@@insight827 no dude literally I used my high school psych tricks and that shit worked like magic. All these old ass naysayers are too impatient and unaware of techniques like this to truly grasp it but I feel like the younger generation will adapt these skills as a result of the information we were handed from birth
The same. I did that and from zero pitch I reached partially perfect. I can also run through different tunings like baroque or byzantine or asian music with different tunings and it feels the same. I don't feel that I have to "tune" it to get it, but I feel the notes correctly pitched in this new environment.
you should add other reference pitches to your system. If you play guitar, memorize the sound of the open strings. there is nothing wrong with your system, but its not perfect pitch. you've just barely set foot on the bridge from relative pitch to absolute pitch
@@RyanOConnorDrums @Ryan O'Connor lol no worries. I think it's actually interesting, because after that part it modulates into B major from C major. C F# G are the same scale degrees in C as B F F# is in B major, so that may explain why your method confuses them, since it is based heavily on tonicized notes, and you may not have noticed that it modulates down to B major after a few measures (18 seconds in to be exact), and so that shifted your entire perception of the notes down a half step, since you though the C was a B. In fact, the entire theme switches between C major and B major constantly, very abruptly, almost sneakily lmao
There is no such thing as "perfect pitch" or "natural gift" to listen and understand notes. It's always developed in one way or another. It's just so happens that they developed as a kid and people think it's a "gift"
True! Also, did you notice that 2nd friend he mentioned (the one who said he's a "naturally flat" singer) he also said that he believe we all have perfect pitch within us. Note, also, that Ryan himself said he's "naturally flat" singer, too. But what they don't realize is that they are unconsciously trying to sing in down to A432hz scientific pitch. A440hz is an arbitrarily chosen pitch. His has nothing to do with discreet, geometrical proportions. A432hz does. I'm here at _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_ if you wanna see my work on this. // Thanks!
Why do some musicians care so much about if its perfect pitch or relative pitch? I see people says "ACTUALLY!" As if this guy hasnt trained himself to the point when it could pretty much be perfect pitch. It seems like a bunch of people who want to seem gifted and lucky and hate the fact that someone can train and not be born with something and achieve what they have. Either that or they care way to much about semantics
For me, if I hear a note from a distance (Doppler effect) I’m usually able tell which two notes it’s between, but sometimes it’s difficult to decipher which note it actually is and what I’m hearing so I end up inferring and overcorrecting if that makes any sense
Interesting video, but the title and intro were very prideful imo. Like it's cool that you've realized this for yourself but it's definitely not as foundational as Bach. I don't mean to rain on your parade though, because if that system you came up with works for you to identify a note then that's cool. But compared to actually learning music as a whole, memorizing a note is a pretty trivial thing. Like if you can do that but can't barely play any instrument or make music, it doesn't add much to being a musician. At that point it's basically just a party trick. But if you're already a great musician, this can be a helpful tool. But that's all it really is, a tool. The much more important skill to learn that you touched on a little bit is being able to hear an interval in your head. Levi Clay already made a video about it (title: "The Ear Training Exercise That REALLY Matters! Why Don't They TEACH It?!") that explains it pretty well. Basically it's just being able to sound out intervals in your head, which they don't really teach because it's not testable. What they teach is hearing an interval and being able to identify what interval it is, which is a completely different thing.
Sorry, i don't think this is the universal revelation you suggest it is. You take for granted that you have a very stable a reliable reference pitch. I'm a piano player, and on that instrument no note is especially fundamental over any other to lock onto as a reference. My relative pitch is already solid and from any pitch reference i can identify without thinking about it. That part is easy for me. What's difficult is keeping a reliable reference pitch in the first place and your system is not helpful for that.
It’s more meant to get the viewer to think about how they themselves can blend memorizing a bunch of reference notes and navigating those checkpoints. For me, B, F#, A, and Eb all stick out quite a bit, so I just use those as my navigation placeholders. A great way to memorize pitches is just associating it with another memory, such as a favorite song or melody that starts with that note, or is in that key. When you wake up each morning, try and sing your reference pitch without any help, then check with a tuner. Hope this helps!
Got me with his CLICK BAIT! He even admits in one of his comments that he is "aware that this ain't real perfect pitch". So why the title claiming that he taught himself successfully PERFECT pitch? 👎
What's actually revolutionary about it is the efficiency of learning functional note naming. That chart isn't perfect, but it seems to be one of very few documents that currently allows the viewer to access their inner ear and truly understand and perceive how to use that new group of muscles in a relatively simple format. Learn it and see how you feel.
You taught yourself absolute pitch, not perfect pitch. Perfect pitch has a very specific timing window to learn and is often strongly related to genetics rather than nurturing. If it can be nurtured, it must be done at a very very young age and only a specific range of pitches. In many cases, absolute pitch objectively better than perfect pitch.
@@ZackBeca It is not. You are clearly incorrect. I am appalled that you have the audacity to not question the invalidity of your contrivance. *tsk, tsk*. I would advise picking up a textbook before becoming a secondary source. Your interpretation is flawed and frankly, embarassing.
@@shriveledfigsandplums3827 I have picked more textbooks my friend and even tho you sound funny you are wrong, like I said absolute pitch, or "perfect pitch' as some people call it, is the same thing but this is pretty basic knowledge so don't just try to argue with that by sounding intelligent because your whole comment doesn't make sense since you don't know what absolute pitch is. Don't talk about something if you don't know anything about the subject
What! I don’t think it’s that complicated. It’s called practice. What would be a great way to explain to others, is by showing examples. I’d like to see you do the things you surprised yourself with.. And like someone already mentioned, if you’re not pitched perfect already (when you can magically name a particular note or pitch without having a referenced note) you can’t ever have perfect pitch.. EVER.. lol And it’s okay if you don’t have pitch. Music has already saved the world many times
no one has ever "taught myself perfect pitch"...I SERIOUSLY doubt your claim. Either you have it or you don't....sorry. Plus, it's not a necessary skill to be a professional, or even proficient, musician.
Did you even read these comments😂 I’m pretty sure about 100 people have actually taught themselves via this method. I’ve watched a few of my friends do it with my own eyes too. Give it a shot lmao
@@RyanOConnorDrums relative pitch is NOT perfect pitch. btw....Knowing note 'names' does not give you a greater understanding of music. Guessing within a half step is NOT perfect pitch. What you call "subconscious" perfect pitch, is, in actuality pitch memory, which cannot be achieved by adults whose brains have already passed through that part of brain development. sorry. It is learned very early when the child is presented with a consistent pitch reference FROM AN EARLY AGE. In fact, I know of one very famous musician (personally) who developed perfect pitch from a piano that was flat. Throughout his ENTIRE life, he walked around with a slighty flat pitch memory matrix in his head. That did not stop him from rising to the top of his profession.
@@davidcottrell1308 not arguing w you on this bc I don’t need to, but that comment is relatively ignorant. Wouldn’t it be cool if you could hear a song you like in a grocery store and be able to understand what key it’s in so you can therefore write music that feels that way since it’s in that key? Perfect example of a practical use of this skill. Be more open minded bro
I'd advise you read some of the comments if you're struggling, some of my viewers are incredibly intelligent and have left their own expansions and what I'd consider PhD level information and education below. There is also a follow up video if it's not clicking!
You don’t have perfect pitch, let’s be super clear on that. You have relative pitch; but so do thousands of other musicians. You show your willful ignorance on this subject; that is not good, and it’s sad that you are putting misinformation out into the world.
*Rick Beato blocks your path*
Lol, no. Rick believes you can’t learn perfect pitch. This video isn’t about that, it’s relative pitch. Rick believes in that with good ear training. That’s what this guy is doing.
Rick Beato believes myths about AP and doesn’t understand how it works. And most don’t understand it.
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If y'all are struggling on finding a pitch you can memorize, the one I'm using is G which is the first note to Welcome to the Black Parade by My Chemical Romance. If you can listen to that intro in your head, you're set! lol
solid idea tbh :D i have actual perfect pitch tho but this is a good reference point lol
I use the B- from the intro to Kryptonite by 3 Door Down.
Amazing advise
Woah you are really good at explaining things and yes, i think this could actually work- i will be trying this
We need more intelligent enquiry such as this upload. Bravo, good sir! Subbed.
Amazing video. Love it. I have a very very good ear and I am able to fake perfect pitch, but I don’t really have it. Also, I’m better when I am well rested and for some reason my ear is definitely worse when I have a cold. Strange but true.
I can identify the 6 open strings of the guitar from years of just tuning the guitar, EADGBE, with electronic guitar tuners, then I found out accidentally that I could tune accurately without the tuner because the battery died and I needed to tune up, I've tried to use reference from these notes and found with a little practice I can pick out the notes between. All I need to do is pick out semitone tone minor 3rd and major 3rd away from my reference notes, I'm still working on trying to speed up the process to see how well it works.
I've had perfect pitch since I can remember, and that has led me to sort songs I listen to by key (as a matter of listening pleasure). I already had the sound of middle C ingrained into my head the strongest, so even if I did need to, I could just compare any note I heard to that C and name it just as fast, but now notes also trigger the memories of songs I have sorted into those keys, so I feel like my perfect pitch has actually strengthened as I've got older. But I've never got a note wrong, unless it was some ridiculously low grand piano note with tonnes of overtones, which usually sounds higher than it actually is.
Thank you for this. This was enlightening.
very interesting, thanks for sharing. coincidentally B3 is the highest note I can hit in my mixed voice.
I was mentally singing The Backstreet Boys, "I want it that way". The song is in the key of B, I remember it well. I was hitting B really easy from that memory of the actual song. Not even by reference. Certainly something to keep working on. Amazing discovery, Thank you.
BTW, this concept also works great as a good spellcheck. You're doing what I did as a B3 player (the high F through a Leslie distorted in a certain way that stuck in my brain. But I've used this technique since I was 7 or 8 to remember how to spell words. I didn't realize WHAT I was looking at till you nailed it - first impression. Just like baby ducklings! 😎 Thx.
Did anyone else hear that Bb at 3:21 and hear the first note of Chopin's Nocturne op. 9 N.2 instantly? Impressed I was in pitch when I checked it myself. Cool video thanks man!
YES ME TOO
I also received a similar sensation in my brain when the particular sound waves from the Bb at 3:21were played
On the Bb at 3:21 my brain started instantly playing the star spangled banner in the key of Eb
On the Eb at 3:43 my brain started playing the intro to Once Again by Tristam LOL the note and the tone are the exact same
yes bro straight away being played back in my head
its awesome to see that you trained your brain this way and u are clearly very passionate musician who loves music
Stevie wonders Sir Duke literally begins with a B major arpeggio so I just base it off that
thank you so much man!
I don't have perfect pitch but it's easy to tell notes, chords and progressions fast enough. Most of the time I get the notes correctly when I hear them randomly, and sometimes some notes just tell me: Hi! I am a very perfect E!
Yep!
Similar to my method..
So I have a cross reference for every note that I go back and recall on the piano super regularly
Each note I assigned a memory or word when I first used it or to match each unique Tonal quality with one so I am able to recall or recreate pitches in my head and when I listen to songs I’m able to pick their melody up on the piano extremely quickly.
12 notes ain’t that much. Remembering those unique tonal qualities on even just 1 or more octaves is useful!!!!
Then hearing those in context next to each other helps too!
So, In other words… you found a method to learn relative pitch. NOT PERFECT PITCH. Perfect pitch requires no reference. No thinking about it. No recalling of previous notes. It sounds like some of your friends might have a very well perfected relative pitch, not perfect pitch. Either way, thanks for putting this out there. I’m sure it will benefit many people who might want a short cut to learning relative pitch. Perfect pitch is a rare thing, btw. Not everyone that claims to have it, actually has it. Best of lucks!
Well, being a neuroscience PhD, I would say that at least we know that perfect pitch don't need an reference, but we don't know that much about internal references :)
@@nunezkant THANK YOU!! YALL ARE ALL MISSING THE FACT THAT THIS PROCESS HAPPENS SILENTLY WITHIN THE BRAIN!!!
@@RyanOConnorDrums Relative can still be performed non verbally. Sorry to poke holes in your theory...it's actually a really cool method but it's not developing perfect pitch since someone with perfect pitch doesn't need a reference point, but with your system you need a reference point. Good video though man
you know who really has a perfect pitch?
nolan ryan.
@@aaronservice86 I think everyone is missing the fact that I’m very aware this ain’t real perfect pitch. For a while my friends and I called it “diet perfect pitch” and again, the result is the same regardless of whether or not you have “real perfect pitch.” I’m plagiarizing another comment here, but this is quite literally a pissing contest. The fact is that this method works for quite a few people and though it isn’t perfect, the greater understanding of music as a whole is well worth the work imo. Y’all are free to disagree, but close mindedness will forever hold you back as a musician and person.
This video is great; being able to hear a correct note in your head from long-term memory is what perfect pitch really is, and a lot of misconceptions about perfect pitch stem from people not realizing this. If you have this ability, you can think of songs or sounds where you can hear the pitch in your head, then write down and study pitches corresponding to each of them, can even use flashcards. If you can do it for one sound, it's likely that there are other songs/sounds you have in your long term memory that can be labelled.
This ability varies from person to person, but generally the more songs/sounds you can commit to your long-term memory, the better your absolute pitch gets. It doesn't matter if you are an adult; if you've had this ability your whole life, you have the ability to develop perfect pitch. It takes practice, and most people with this ability aren't willing to put it the effort because of the myths about how you can only develop perfect pitch if you're very young. I did this at 18 years old, and the speed that I can recognize pitches still improves as I continue to learn with this method; you also start to hear how song keys interrelate, which makes it easier to learn more of them. The earlier you start, the better it can get
Genius.
Interesting video on relative pitch for those who might be new to the method
this is the way
Opening note of Star Wars theme is Bflat. That’s another one I can get.
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Hey y’all at 13:12 I misspoke and meant to say MINOR 7TH UP. The lowercase m indicated minor. Thanks!
If you’re commenting about the clickbait do everyone a favor and go touch grass
I think grass is what inspired this video
Why is it wrong to point out the clickbait?
Ryan very interesting and helpful video bro, appreciate it! I tried to think of the first song that would pop into my head where I could clearly hear the original recording, and the opening note to star wars (the 1st movie, 1977 new hope) popped into my head. I didn't even know what note it was, but checked a keyboard and I was dead on (Bb), then I youtube searched the soundtrack, and sure enough it is a Bb. I seem to be able to hear this note very clearly, so this could be a good start (star wars Bb) to working with you relative pitch method from there. Very cool!
@@adamp108 I was wondering the same thing - how consistent I would be, whether I can still hear the correct star wars pitch while other music is playing, etc. I just tried again now, and I was off by a half step (A instead of Bb). Might have to mess around with other song selections in the mix...
so.. I've been playing instruments around 2 years and never did ear training before but, now I feel pretty confident to start after my knowledge on instrument and theory, would you consider this video as a guide to start learning by ear since zero.. or you have any other tip that would be a help?
Blend this with the ear training exercises on musictheory.net and you’re good
@@RyanOConnorDrums I trained there other exercises about theory and is useful, thanks :D
The essential of this method is to help you internalize 12 notes, mainly based on intervals from two 7th chords. It requires the exercise of course. Some people claim that perfect pitch doesn't need exercise, Can a baby tell you names of color? Only after he/she learns the color name, that is learning. You have to learn and practice.
I figured out after about five years that "true pitch" is the popular invented term for adults who learn perfect pitch somehow (as if it was any different measurably)
I developed "true pitch" consciously. I demonstrate it on the first video I ever posted. Simply identifying single notes. True pitch is just learning to identify the notes on one's own instrument by the subtle differences in timbre from note to note. I usually call it "micro-timbre".
I feel like with something like what this guy outlines, it's a little more nebulous, like just reaching with more of a relative pitch sense. With true pitch, each pitch has a very distinct formal uniqueness and there's no need whatsoever to reference any pitches at all.
It's Iike each pitch has a unique 3-dimensional physical shape that stands on its own with no need for a reference pitch.
Over time, those sounds go beyond the timbre of your own instrument and you begin to hear those unique shapes in any timbre. And particularly with tonalities.
Still...I've been doing all kinds of ear training for 20 years and along the way, I also developed something like what he describes here as well. Where I have reference points and melodies that connect the notes to eachother.
But that is a different sense than true pitch and its deeper levels. It's like there are 2 dimensions you could call "pitch-location" and "micro-timbre" that together can give one a pretty decent sense of absolute pitch.
@@spacevspitch4028 your description of notes having shapes is SO accurate! When focused enough it’s almost as if you’re able to hear the waveform itself
this is called quasi-perfect pitch, or quasi-absolute pitch, where if you know one note(running joke but some people use their tinnitus as their reference note LMFAO), you can determine all the others. this can be acquired through memorization or repetition of a note, this is often seen in experienced musicians who constantly tune to one note
OH MY GOD THE TINNITUS THING IS SO FUNNY
If someone has one note memorized and they don't need to reference any other note to recall and identify it, what is that? It's not relative pitch because you're not referencing other pitches to remember it. So for all intents and purposes, you have "Perfect pitch" for that one note.
This obsession with what is _real_ "perfect pitch" is ridiculous. If you can internalize all 12 pitches in the same way you internalized that first pitch such that you don't need to reference any of them to each other, then you use pitch ID apps to drill identification to the point that it's automatic...at that point, does it matter whether it's "real" perfect pitch or not? You're still recalling and identifying the pitches _absolutely_ . As in you don't need a reference for any of the 12 pitches.
Until you can take such a person and subject their brain to MRIs and PET scans, you have no way of knowing whether what's going on in their brain when they recall and identify pitches is any different from someone who you would claim has "real" perfect pitch.
So the whole distinction is functionally meaningless. It's a pissing contest. "Bro, that's not _real_ perfect pitch. You just have good pitch memory!" like it matters. If it works it works.
@@spacevspitch4028 Get this man a MEDAL I couldn’t have said it better myself🤌🏼
@@spacevspitch4028 Yes it works too, but to be accurate, the two are different phenomenon. The difference is with pitch memory, you recall the note from memory to produce it's sound. In perfect pitch, you don't have it memorize, you just subconsciously know it, it's like there's a trigger when you hear each notes to the point that you can also get annoyed by it. People with really good pitch memory can produce/identify the right notes but they don't have that" trigger" that's why when you let the two hear the same music, the person with perfect pitch will almost always be faster because the one with pitch memory need to process first the information. I don't have perfect pitch, but i have some level of pitch memory (like I couldn't forget G anymore because my favorite piece starts on G). What's interesting is while watching the video and he played the notes Bb and Eb, I heard a specific piece for each (quite vivid in my head, like a trigger) and when I checked, each started with those two notes. So maybe perfect pitch is just a very advanced pitch memory (needs more studies), to the point that you don't need to associate it to an old piece you heard but to the actual sound of the note itself. Also another theory from me is, maybe having relative pitch is a hindrance in learning perfect pitch because your brain focuses on the structure of the music instead of each notes themselves (so maybe one needs to listen "unrelatively"). Because imagine if you need to be young to learn it, maybe your relative pitch is not good yet. Like there's some studies that says infants can learn perfect pitch and I'm sure infanta have no relative pitch yet.
@@ehrenromblon5392 Everything you said I'm very aware of and have worked on myself. It's like any other skill you develop. You work on _until_ it becomes automatic and you don't have to analyze or think about it. You're brain just tells you the note without any effort. I went through this process over many years and I experience it myself on a daily basis. While listening to music or just hearing sounds with definite pitch in nature and things like that. With music It's most pronounced with keys. I can usually tell what key pieces of music are in without effort. I just feel it. And I can follow chord movements and such. There's a difference between relative pitch and absolute pitch hearing and you can tell when you are hearing the absoluteness of a pitch and the relationship of a pitch to the tonal center or the pitches around it.
Again, with the right kind of attention and study, the identification and recall of pitches _becomes_ subconscious. Just like driving or identifying colors or reading. It's no different than any other skill. It takes practice.
I agree, in part, but that’s relative pitch. AC/DC Back in Black is in E. Stairway to Heaven is in Am and begins on the A note. Those are also tuning of guitar strings. Sweet Home Alabama is in D. So if you can think those songs, you can tune your guitar. I can hear those notes, but I wouldn’t call it perfect pitch. I still like your thought process on the subject.
Ok, so how do you think of those songs in the correct key to begin with? That's an absolute judgement. There's no way to reference to any other pitches. You have to just _know_ what that first note is. So no, it's not relative pitch. Relative pitch is what you do to get the other pitches _after_ you get the first one with perfect pitch.
It isnt perfect pitch, its relative pitch, but also knowing one note AS perfect pitch. Perfect pitch means you know every note and can hear it WITHOUT a reference note. This is using a reference note. I have perfect pitch so I know how it works.
bro it’s clickbait🤓
@@RyanOConnorDrums is it?
@@MrCrompz yes lmao perfect pitch is genetic I literally say this in the video
@@MrCrompz I think the issue is that because you have perfect this skill just doesn’t compute since it’s meant for people without it lol
@@RyanOConnorDrums perfect pitch is not genetic
The past day, hilarious. You memorized a note and learned intervals. Relative pitch.
I figured out I had relative pitch perfectly when I guessed an A by thinking of Tom petty singing I’m “freeee” free fallen. Subsequently knowing g and f with the next word “fallen”
I think that this technique could be paired with Diana Deutsch's "Tritone Paradox" and finding which pitch or pitches would serve people best based on perceived tone height. She found that everybody has innate absolute pitch memory that varies based on many factors. However, there is not a person that it is not consistent in. In simple terms, perfect pitch is (likely) the crossing of the brain's labeling and pitch perception systems. People can usually sing familiar songs in the correct key. Your brain will associate and memorize the starting pitch of the song with the sound of that song in your head. This may be the same mechanism that people with perfect pitch have, but there is no "middle man." I have a version of Deutsch's tritone paradox test that I can send that will help you find your "base." For example, B and C are the highest notes in my mind. I don't know this consciously, but that is what this test can help you figure out.
This instantaneous recognition people are talking about still needs training to some degree. What if you recognize a note, but haven't learned what to call it yet. You aren't going to magically know. Which leads me to believe there must be tons of people out there that have perfect pitch, that don't know they do, because no one ever taught them how to identify the notes - or they never really cared about music.
Side note: I have amazing perfect pitch with an Ab because it's the first note in a track I listened to a bajilion times ("Weapon" by Virt from the album FX4), but couldn't guess any of the other 11 right to save my life. If I hear an Ab in that same register, than that song pops up in my head instantly. It can even be a sound on the street that's an Ab - the song instantly begins in my head. Haven't listened to that track in a couple years and this still happens to me. Anyone else have this with maybe just 1 or a couple specific notes?
I enjoyed this concept. Would you do you do zoom lesson at my expense to help me farther engrain this?
I suspect I have untrained perfect pitch, I just don't know how to read octave labels.
How I am sure it's likely is due to how whenever I listened to Chinese, a tonal language, I can notice different tones pretty easily even though I haven't even spent a day listening to it when watching those linguistic related UA-cam channels.
thats just being able to tell if pitches go up and down
Now we need Brett Yang from twosetviolin to watch this
I love your enthusiasm! Very interesting. So, my question is : if you can remember the subtle feeling and sound of b, then why not do the work ( using the same mental mechanisms that enable that b memory) (and patience), to remember and fix the other notes ?
I don't have perfect pitch but I can identify notes by somehow having a peculiar relation of color to each note since I was young. For example when I hear E I feel like seeing green
Synesthesia. Look it up.
Im probably going to clip your explanation around the 12:00 mark and make a subliminal track with harmonics.
I have had a theory about the natural resonance of instruments like piano violin and sax. That has high frequency information that is lost in most digital music and low quality media files.
I noticed lastime i was listening to harmonics on my guitar that the note frequency can be heard in all octaves and versions of the same note. This would explain why people loose perfect pitch as the get older. Their memory of the sound stays the same but the ears loos the ability to accurately hear those high frequencies so they end up consistently off.
With the frequency method after honing in on the texture or tamber of a note i was able to accurately name the buz on my fan or the drone of a car. Then humm in pitch with it and check on a tuner. I was also able to accurately identify the character of several notes randomly on my guitar without theory.
I stopped this study because i realized the training would be easier with a real piano.
But hearing your system and method. Also some kind of emotional attachment so the note can be felt like when hearing the note recall the overall feeling of its sound.
Honestly, I would just like to develop a decent sense of relative pitch. At some level my brain must be able to tell different intervals apart, because I can learn and recognize specific melodies, and I can distinguish ones that use the same rhythm. But when I hear two notes one after the other, I can't identify the interval, or even say whether it was ascending or descending unless the difference is quite large. I can't tell a third from a fifth, or from a semitone for that matter, by listening. I can't even specifically identify an octave -- I can't tell whether both notes are the "same" note in a different octave, or not, which is something that most music theorists consider extremely fundamental. My ability to recognize melodies, which are made out of intervals, implies that my brain has the potential to learn how to recognize intervals. The information needed to do that must be in my head somewhere. But I can't figure out how to access it.
I can work out any guitar solo, don't have any pitch perfect,or what ever you call it , just keep working at it,
I subscribe right when you said "Metalcore"
if a series of notes (like 5 notes) are played to you, will you be able to immediately tell what notes they are?
That’s a LOT harder. If I know the intervals and the starting note, yes. But realistically it’d take me a minute or so to come up with a definitive answer. But at that point, it makes more sense to fixate on the first note and then just use relative to navigate from there.
If you have time, could you consider making a video demonstrating the detailed thought process in you brian on how to identify a note. Describe what goes through you mind in real-time. It would be a very valuable video to understand the method more clearly. I am very curious to know more.
@@michael6813 I get a crazy dopamine rush and that chemical reaction allows me to know that I’m correct. I got good at checking with a tuner and I spent about a week checking every single guess. That led me to start getting stuff right and I just kinda subconsciously started to know what certain notes sound like.
Then that makes it relative pitch. Absolute/perfect pitch means being able to associate the name of the note to the pitch without inferring it by comparison with a reference pitch. Still congrats on your feat! Very imoressive ;)
What he's outlined is a great intro to developing perfect pitch. The next step is to use drones to learn to identify the notes regardless of tonal context. It's difficult to identify single pitches in actual music because almost all Western music has tonal context. So if you can recall and identify C but only as the tonic, then you will get confused when it's the 7th or the b2 of the key the music is in. It'll throw you off. So you have to learn to hear all 12 notes against all 12 key centers each.
The friend that said he was a naturally flat singer was unconsciously wanting to sing in A432hz scientific pitch because it's more natural. We use A440hz as a standar, but it was picked arbitrarily. Animals don't sings or call in A440hz. At all. And neither do we, at heart. But whole "sacred" pitch thing is a whole other subject, so I won't say anymore on that.
BUT, what I wanted to share here, and to add to what Ryan is explaining: yes, perfect pitch is an automatic perception (and it can be learned), but there is actually a REASON we have perfect pitch at all. It's because we hear the notes in the same way as we see colors. Like C (red) isn't a color, but it is one of the most fiery an personal notes. Love songs. D is orange. E is yellow. F is line-green. F# is grass green. That is to say, F# and a very open, expansive sound. But also it sounds more distant and detached. Therefore songs of envy are in F an F# (see Mariah Carey's "Can't Let Go." The Baroque and Classical "pastoral" were all in F major. (See Beethoven's "Pastoral Symphony in F.") So, green is both Nature AND Envy (the grass is always greener on the other side). Keep in mind that there are 12 color divisions in the color wheel, just as there 12 notes from C to C. // If you follow the notes as a spectrum, you will also see that the tritone or "devil's interval" matches each color to it's complimentary color. C/red vs tritone F#/green. Opposite colors. Or Orange vs Blue is a tritone of D and Ab. It makes it easy for me to count notes this way because if I want to know the tritone of F (lime-green) i just think of magenta, which is B!
I hate to give out these types of "absolute" sort of descriptions of sound because I think it's important that the student learn to hear them on their own. So, what I want to say to the viewers (all A432Hz tuning aside), is that in addition to the exercises explained here, make a journal and write down how one one sounds in comparison to another. You will be amazed at what your ear tells you!
My own work with color and SHAPE association can be found here at: _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_
Thanks, Ryan!
journaling this process is GENIUS! thank you so much!
@@RyanOConnorDrums Horray! I learned it in the 80's (before the internet!) from Keyboard Magazine. This guy would sell his "David Lucas Burge Ear Training Course."
To B or not to B?
I totally don't have perfect pitch, yet singing pitches I can feel if something is A Ab4 Bb B4 or C5 usually...lol
nice presentation, well spoken, I think you should have put your chart in the beginning instead of talking about it, I think your system is cool and it has merit
When you say to memorize them in order, are we supposed to sing them in order too? Is this beneficial to be able to play music by ear with instruments as well, and not just your singing voice?
The entire purpose of this video is honestly getting the view to begin thinking about and navigating their internal ear. If the concept isn't coming together quite yet, just focus on 1 note and see if you can pick it out in songs you hear. For me, my guitar playing became SO much more musical after developing a better ear, and even if it feels like no progress is being made, keep trying at it. This skill is SUPER advanced and takes a very high amount of persistence!
@@RyanOConnorDrums thank you!
I love how I got clickbaited but it's worth it.
LMAO THANK YOU SM
why the clickbait title? You didn't develop perfect pitch, you developed your relative pitch...that's not even close to being the same thing.
my bad bro I didn’t know the CEO of music was gonna be watching this
@@RyanOConnorDrums though I agree you don't need the clickbait title, love your answer, LoL.
ear training?
Do u think I can achieve the same thing if I just use C instead, I already know all the intervals but I don't know how to keep the C reference in my head
you totally can! if I were you i'd try and sing a C each morning when you wake up, then check as soon as you can. You should have it pretty internalized within a few days. If you know any songs in C (somewhere over the rainbow lol) you can just use that as a reference too!
@@RyanOConnorDrums I'm back after 3 months and this has changed me for the better. I've gotten to a level where I don't need a reference for any note. I can recognize any pitch or series of pitches in Leeds than five secs. I can call out the chords from any songs and play back melodies on my guitar and piano in the correct key. It's feels almost instantaneous. I used this so called pitch perfect or to practice everyday and noww I function as if I have absolute pitch. Ty for the tips.
@@countrystore5264 dude I literally have the same thing now!! I did a church service as a drummer yesterday and when I called out an A before the vocalist did I had to explain to everyone that I don’t have perfect lmao. Really solid to hear that everyone I’ve shown this to who’s actually implemented it has successfully learned it - who knows, maybe we can actually standardize this skill within some sort of advanced musical curriculum so it remains reliable and accessible. Super pumped to hear how it’s improved your life!
What's that cartoon you're talking about?
I have extremely good relative pitch, and it can function as perfect pitch in the same way you describe in this video, but I find it hard to memorise any one note to orient myself on, how did you do this?
Used a tuner every day for a week to check and rewarded myself when I got it right haha
@@RyanOConnorDrums Man that's smart... almost building a Pavlovian response to a certain pitch. Will give it a shot, thanks.
@@insight827 no dude literally I used my high school psych tricks and that shit worked like magic. All these old ass naysayers are too impatient and unaware of techniques like this to truly grasp it but I feel like the younger generation will adapt these skills as a result of the information we were handed from birth
The same. I did that and from zero pitch I reached partially perfect. I can also run through different tunings like baroque or byzantine or asian music with different tunings and it feels the same. I don't feel that I have to "tune" it to get it, but I feel the notes correctly pitched in this new environment.
How do you memorize a reference pitch ?
By tuning your guitar regularly.
You can use the first note of Nothing Else Matters to memorize the low E.
I would try and sing a B every morning when I woke up and immediately check it. It locks into your muscle memory and internal memory after a while
Twelve contacts, each programmed as a note on your phone's ring tone settings. Once you can identify without hesitation, change the octave.
"ive been trying this out for a day" "how i taught my self perfect pitch" xd
Lol
I have tried this for few years doesn't work. Its just still relative pitch
@@sourabh6900 The video ha not been up even for one year so what are you even talking about
@@lestath2345 i mean i already tackled this concept myself on my music journey
So what’s this cartoon whose theme is in B?
The Simpsons, but it's in C, and not B. He made a mistake.
What’s the name of the cartoon that starts with a diminished fifth?
The Simpsons lmao
@@RyanOConnorDrums thanks
@@RyanOConnorDrums I don't think you'll get a copyright strike for saying "The Simpsons"
@@attainableaudio4533 valid but i was just tryna future-proof the video haha
you should add other reference pitches to your system. If you play guitar, memorize the sound of the open strings. there is nothing wrong with your system, but its not perfect pitch. you've just barely set foot on the bridge from relative pitch to absolute pitch
Just a random thing... the simpsons theme song (which I assume is the "popular cartoon" you refer to) is not B F but C F# (the simp-sons, C F#-G)
Omg you’re right this is why you check before you post your 16 minute ramble😭 that reinforces the half step issue tho so I gotta hammer it out
@@RyanOConnorDrums @Ryan O'Connor lol no worries. I think it's actually interesting, because after that part it modulates into B major from C major. C F# G are the same scale degrees in C as B F F# is in B major, so that may explain why your method confuses them, since it is based heavily on tonicized notes, and you may not have noticed that it modulates down to B major after a few measures (18 seconds in to be exact), and so that shifted your entire perception of the notes down a half step, since you though the C was a B. In fact, the entire theme switches between C major and B major constantly, very abruptly, almost sneakily lmao
😭😭😭 the amount of pseudo-musical elitists in the comment section trying to gatekeep perfect pitch because they saw one rick beato video is hilarious
Perfect pitch is a curse it would drive me mad. Much rather have relative pitch
It would’t, believe me, I have perfect pitch and the world is beautiful
@@martinbelusic does it bug you playing a piano that’s slightly out of tune?
@@johncracker5217 No
@@martinbelusic I don’t believe you have perfect pitch. You probably have really good relative pitch like me😊
@@martinbelusic maybe if you weren’t such a know it all you’d have more friends
Lotta people in the comments explaining perfect pitch as if you didn’t explain it at the start of the video. They’re just mad they got clickbaited.
on god
Why do you have less than 1k views?
No clue let’s change that LOL
There is no such thing as "perfect pitch" or "natural gift" to listen and understand notes. It's always developed in one way or another. It's just so happens that they developed as a kid and people think it's a "gift"
True! Also, did you notice that 2nd friend he mentioned (the one who said he's a "naturally flat" singer) he also said that he believe we all have perfect pitch within us.
Note, also, that Ryan himself said he's "naturally flat" singer, too. But what they don't realize is that they are unconsciously trying to sing in down to A432hz scientific pitch. A440hz is an arbitrarily chosen pitch. His has nothing to do with discreet, geometrical proportions. A432hz does.
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So where's your perfect pitch? You didn't even demonstrate relative pitch convincingly.
Don’t test me bro grow up😭
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Why do some musicians care so much about if its perfect pitch or relative pitch? I see people says "ACTUALLY!" As if this guy hasnt trained himself to the point when it could pretty much be perfect pitch. It seems like a bunch of people who want to seem gifted and lucky and hate the fact that someone can train and not be born with something and achieve what they have. Either that or they care way to much about semantics
fr god forbid I enjoy becoming intelligent
How can you be wrong by less than a half step?.. That's the minimum measurement.. In Western music at least
For me, if I hear a note from a distance (Doppler effect) I’m usually able tell which two notes it’s between, but sometimes it’s difficult to decipher which note it actually is and what I’m hearing so I end up inferring and overcorrecting if that makes any sense
Where's Rick Beato saying that this is bullshit?
With the traction this video is gaining I’m expecting to be annihilated by Adam Neely and/or Rick
@@RyanOConnorDrums 😂..haha...
Interesting video, but the title and intro were very prideful imo. Like it's cool that you've realized this for yourself but it's definitely not as foundational as Bach. I don't mean to rain on your parade though, because if that system you came up with works for you to identify a note then that's cool.
But compared to actually learning music as a whole, memorizing a note is a pretty trivial thing. Like if you can do that but can't barely play any instrument or make music, it doesn't add much to being a musician. At that point it's basically just a party trick. But if you're already a great musician, this can be a helpful tool. But that's all it really is, a tool.
The much more important skill to learn that you touched on a little bit is being able to hear an interval in your head. Levi Clay already made a video about it (title: "The Ear Training Exercise That REALLY Matters! Why Don't They TEACH It?!") that explains it pretty well. Basically it's just being able to sound out intervals in your head, which they don't really teach because it's not testable. What they teach is hearing an interval and being able to identify what interval it is, which is a completely different thing.
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Sorry, i don't think this is the universal revelation you suggest it is. You take for granted that you have a very stable a reliable reference pitch. I'm a piano player, and on that instrument no note is especially fundamental over any other to lock onto as a reference. My relative pitch is already solid and from any pitch reference i can identify without thinking about it. That part is easy for me. What's difficult is keeping a reliable reference pitch in the first place and your system is not helpful for that.
It’s more meant to get the viewer to think about how they themselves can blend memorizing a bunch of reference notes and navigating those checkpoints. For me, B, F#, A, and Eb all stick out quite a bit, so I just use those as my navigation placeholders. A great way to memorize pitches is just associating it with another memory, such as a favorite song or melody that starts with that note, or is in that key. When you wake up each morning, try and sing your reference pitch without any help, then check with a tuner. Hope this helps!
Well surely theres some piece you’ve heard enough times to know the starting pitch, just use that
Got me with his CLICK BAIT!
He even admits in one of his comments that he is "aware that this ain't real perfect pitch".
So why the title claiming that he taught himself successfully PERFECT pitch?
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I can actually show you how to get perfect pitch
How please
Pretty sure none of this is new. The techniques are useful but nowhere near revolutionary.
What's actually revolutionary about it is the efficiency of learning functional note naming. That chart isn't perfect, but it seems to be one of very few documents that currently allows the viewer to access their inner ear and truly understand and perceive how to use that new group of muscles in a relatively simple format. Learn it and see how you feel.
That is relative pitch. I am sorry
lies
And more lies...
You taught yourself absolute pitch, not perfect pitch. Perfect pitch has a very specific timing window to learn and is often strongly related to genetics rather than nurturing. If it can be nurtured, it must be done at a very very young age and only a specific range of pitches. In many cases, absolute pitch objectively better than perfect pitch.
Absolute pitch is another name for perfect pitch ...
@@ZackBeca It is not. You are clearly incorrect. I am appalled that you have the audacity to not question the invalidity of your contrivance. *tsk, tsk*. I would advise picking up a textbook before becoming a secondary source. Your interpretation is flawed and frankly, embarassing.
@@shriveledfigsandplums3827 🤣i hope youre satire cuz if ur not 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 rawr!
@@banjobro7669 even if this was satire, it does not erase the fact that this is wrong information being shared.
@@shriveledfigsandplums3827 I have picked more textbooks my friend and even tho you sound funny you are wrong, like I said absolute pitch, or "perfect pitch' as some people call it, is the same thing but this is pretty basic knowledge so don't just try to argue with that by sounding intelligent because your whole comment doesn't make sense since you don't know what absolute pitch is. Don't talk about something if you don't know anything about the subject
What! I don’t think it’s that complicated. It’s called practice. What would be a great way to explain to others, is by showing examples. I’d like to see you do the things you surprised yourself with.. And like someone already mentioned, if you’re not pitched perfect already (when you can magically name a particular note or pitch without having a referenced note) you can’t ever have perfect pitch.. EVER.. lol And it’s okay if you don’t have pitch. Music has already saved the world many times
no one has ever "taught myself perfect pitch"...I SERIOUSLY doubt your claim. Either you have it or you don't....sorry. Plus, it's not a necessary skill to be a professional, or even proficient, musician.
Did you even read these comments😂 I’m pretty sure about 100 people have actually taught themselves via this method. I’ve watched a few of my friends do it with my own eyes too. Give it a shot lmao
@@RyanOConnorDrums relative pitch is NOT perfect pitch. btw....Knowing note 'names' does not give you a greater understanding of music. Guessing within a half step is NOT perfect pitch. What you call "subconscious" perfect pitch, is, in actuality pitch memory, which cannot be achieved by adults whose brains have already passed through that part of brain development. sorry. It is learned very early when the child is presented with a consistent pitch reference FROM AN EARLY AGE. In fact, I know of one very famous musician (personally) who developed perfect pitch from a piano that was flat. Throughout his ENTIRE life, he walked around with a slighty flat pitch memory matrix in his head. That did not stop him from rising to the top of his profession.
@@davidcottrell1308 not arguing w you on this bc I don’t need to, but that comment is relatively ignorant. Wouldn’t it be cool if you could hear a song you like in a grocery store and be able to understand what key it’s in so you can therefore write music that feels that way since it’s in that key? Perfect example of a practical use of this skill. Be more open minded bro
@@RyanOConnorDrums hmmm as a professional composer and classically trained musician, I am far from 'ignorant' on this matter.
You have to learn and train to get the perfect pitch, just like you have to learn to speak or the names of colors.
What a bait and switch. Not appreciated.
I'd advise you read some of the comments if you're struggling, some of my viewers are incredibly intelligent and have left their own expansions and what I'd consider PhD level information and education below. There is also a follow up video if it's not clicking!
You don’t have perfect pitch, let’s be super clear on that. You have relative pitch; but so do thousands of other musicians. You show your willful ignorance on this subject; that is not good, and it’s sad that you are putting misinformation out into the world.
you sold us something in the beginning - that you could not articulate, you need to exercise brevity, aint nobody got time for bla bla bla
Meanie
relative pitch not perfect pitch