WE FOUND IT! The Last Surviving Cityrama
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2022
- It lives! (Just). Link for donations to help restore the bus:
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Sonnenaufgang (Sunrise) from Also Sprach Zarathustra by Kevin McLeod / Free Music Archive (originally by Richard Strauss) -
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Tim is the type of guy to go to a classic car show ona bike.
But only because there was no weird or abandoned railway nearby ;-)
I mean he did visit a public abandonned racetrack thingy by foot before.
@@offichannelnurnberg5894 yeah, I presume he doesn't drive at all, never once seen him in a car.
could be a classic bike :P
It's France, how else would you get to a classic car show.
Now, if you could work on finding Amelia Earhart, the Holy Grail and the Amber Room, or at least Hemingway's lost suitcase of manuscripts, that would really be helpful. Give it a try! 😁
you're missing out on Shakespeare's manuscripts
It would be nice if Tim could find a tiny update to the marker in Belgium. :) merci.
Just trying to keep to a reasonable list, nothing too extreme. 😁
What about Jimmy Hoffa's body?
Hello and it's the 17th of November and 500m below sea level here at the lost city of Atlantis, wait what.
I rode on a Cityrama in 1967, which to my mind looked like it was from the TV series "Thunderbirds"-- which was what passed for superior children's entertainment in those days. Granted, I was 5 years old at the time, so my recollection of Paris is that it was loud, overly large, and there were altogether too many people. I also have a vague recollection that the Seine smelled like a well rotted carp. Maybe that was from the trip we made in 1970 or 1971. Now, at age 60, I know August is not the best month to visit a major European city. Would that my parents had. Still, there was the Cityrama, and now you have performed a minor magic getting my stale old brain to remember things 55 years gone.
Is it possible that your parents took young you to Paris in August because that's also when they had their yearly paid vacation like everyone else ?
@@CaptHollister Indeed and learning from their mistakes, I always took my holidays in July.
My memory of Paris 8 years ago is the same, but with loads of people begging for money.
Paris is basically the same now
It definitely has the look of something from Thunderbirds
Tim: "Here's Philippe, and he's going to tell us which parts of the vehicle he needs to work on."
Philippe: "Quelle pièces de véhicule? Oui."
MDR!
Sounds like a Cityrama of Theseus situation.
I wasn't the least bit surprised when he said they'd start by taking it all apart. :)
As for the many vehicles of Theseus, reading about hot rods as a kid caused me to parallel the great philosopher's thoughts. I mean, it's a pretty obvious question really.
@@ogremark5 haha, nice!
I was expecting a joke where he would start singing the Animaniacs countries of the world song but with car parts. :) But it was a very good reply as it was, that joke would have been a little too hard on such short notice. :)
Absolutely amazing that was driven on a public road to the event, is it exempt from the French equivalent of the MOT?? :-D I donated!
Basically yes, as it is over 3.5 tonnes, but it has to a have Carte Gris Collection, which differs from a normal CG, which limits what can be done with the vehicle but does have the benefit of crazy cheap insurance.
If in circulation prior to 1960 all vehicles are exempt.
Small note, in this condition a gendarme could still make a bit of a trouble if they are having a bad day, as they often seem to, but as they rarely work on Sundays when most car shows are on as they get 2 days off in lieu.
Ah cheers Paul! And cheers @TheHomeProjectChannel for a much better-informed reply to this comment than I would have managed :) Yeah I don't think they would have driven it to this event if it wasn't a short journey, on a Sunday, in the middle of nowhere. When it went to Le Mans yesterday it was very much on the back of a truck.
By law, it's required that the driver of this type of vehicle must be a skinny guy wearing a striped blue & white shirt with a lit unfiltered French cigarette hanging out of his mouth at all times while operating the vehicle. French beret is optional.
@@CallieMasters5000 Is it mandatory to be using one hand to hold a baguette?
@@Thiesi yeah, the baguette has to have that little slip of paper around the middle while leaving 95% of it exposed, though.
I never thought I'd be this excited to see a bus from the sixties held together by ducttape
It's always nice to see pieces of history being restored. Glad to know this bus will be enjoyed for generations to come
Pieces indeed!
Whoo, short moment of Fame @1:05 . That was me! Nice to know i could help you with the search for this amazing vehicle !.
It'd be cool if they could let you pop in from time to time for updates :D
I'm working on it ;)
@@TheTimTraveller Bon chance. I hope to see the occasional update.
@@TheTimTraveller ... even better idea. You recording 'tours' in your very many languages for them, starting with the bus itself.
@@TheTimTraveller Sweeeeet :D
@@TheTimTraveller I mentioned in my donation message we'd seen it on your channel. Hopefully a few more people will!
i don't remember how i found this channel years ago, but i always end up loving each and every single video!
Was it when he did the videos on the fake buildings of Paris? He blew up on that.
@@CallieMasters5000 I think it was the Monte Palace video with the million dollar view that was the first video I saw & been hooked ever since!
For me it was the German border spaghetti.
Absolutley! I love Tims view on things.
@@webchimp Monorails! Monorails! Monorails!
I can proudly say I paid for €2 of the Bus' repair. Can't believe you found it! Great video.
I could not help but donate after seeing this wonderful initiative. How lucky you are to have found this tourist furnace in its full glory Tim! And touch it with your own feet 😀 Thanks for sharing it with us!
just refreshed youtube and saw this gem :) hope you're have a good day
I would love to volunteer my time to restore the audio playback system. I’ve worked on similar on cruise ships and have considerable knowledge with that era of electronics.
You can messege the people owning the Bus
4:02 "GOOD NEWS!"
I was so disappointed it was not about Dacia.
scrolled too far down to see this. Also I loved the old topgear bgm
Oh no! anyway...
I love how many videos on this channel are Tim describing some obscure old thing that used to exist followed by one of his fans going "Oh yeah, that's in my grandpa's backyard, you can come check it out."
Looks like something you'd see in Fallout4. Amazing.
I'm so glad it's actually being restored. My first thought when you showed the full state of the the thing was - "it's a shame no-one is planning to restore it", and then you immediately said that's what someone is planning to do. Great to hear it's in good hands and will survive.
It’s absolutely INSANE that this survived! Wow, that is so cool! Fantastic video, I’ve made sure to donate to the cause.
Don't worry about the form, Google Translate will do that for you, so there's a fiver added to the pot. Hope more do likewise to save such a rare vehicle.
The combination of superb writing, superb production, and in this instance, theme tunes from ‘On the Buses’ and, I think, the ‘Antiques Roadshow’ makes your videos the best of their kind. I look forward to seeing you soon.
Also Top Gear.
@@richardharrold9736 And 'Tour de France' by Kraftwerk for the bike bit of the intro.
Oh, that's wonderful. I'm really looking forward to seeing the Cityrama restored in 4 years time. Did my share for this noble cause and donated something.
The corrugated panels were supposed to make it look futuristic back in the 60s, but now it make it look more like a literal shed lol.
... futuristic on the outside... plywood and random parts on the inside.
You built suspense about seeing a derelict bus... THAT takes talent.
Well Done!
Going strictly by the music hundreds of thousands of years ago an ancestor of Tim threw a bone into the air and it turned into a bus .
Underrated!
It seems like this was a momentous moment for you. Last month I visited my old college for the first time in the year since graduation, and I accidentally met my favorite musician, who I first started listening to at that college, and heard him do an informal concert there in the lunch room of the college. That lunch room was where I would listen to his music so that I could have catharsis from the emotional weight I was carrying at that time. It was really emotionally significant, and I feel like this event has been the same for you. We as the viewers can definitely feel it.
I sent a wee bit their way, it would be amazing to see this thing back in good condition and working again and I'm more than happy to give them a hand. Oh and Tim? Nice one dude, nice one. They're all good but this one felt special.
Hope they have good luck on the fundraiser, that can't be a cheap restoration.
I like how you casually show that life can be fun without a car.
Hallo aus Fürth!
Very curious about the restoration. Will they do a faithful restoration to restore it as stock as possible, or will they also make adjustments to prevent any overheating incidents in the future. I do hope it's the latter. It would be a sad day if the restored one ended up suffering the same fate of its siblings.
doubt they intend to put it back in service, but giving it windows that open would the only way to keep it semi original and yet not a complete greenhouse
Normandy classics is a very solid company well known for their restauration work, they will do their maximum to keep it as close as possible or the original one.
@@thesteelrodent1796 Actually there are filters that can be applied as a thin film to any window, which block infrared light (some block all the non visible light) and thereby block most of the heat. They give the window a slight blue tint, but are otherwise seethrough. So this might be an elegant solution.
I really hope they do something like this, because the glass roof is a really cool look.
@@thesteelrodent1796 it has to be put on permanent display in a museum atleast
Modern air conditioning technology is also much more potent than anything available in the 1960s.
😵A jawdropping design, from the good old days! They'd never have the guts to make something that outrageous today...! Glad it is being restored. 👌
Your signature jokes were just on point this time when speaking about the temperature in the bus I literally felt that it was hot her...wait...it IS hot.
Nice rendition of Jessica by the Allman Brothers Band (likely played by Tim) in there.
Loving the subtle piano rendition of Jessica 😂 I’m looking forward to the update in 4 years time!
That's amazing! I'm glad at least one survived and even more so that it's getting the love it deserves. Thank you for updating us!
Well done Tim, thank you, We have to try and help these folk retore this.
Hey Tim, you remember that video you did about that resort hotel in the Azores that was rated the best hotel in the country when it opened, but it quickly closed down within a year or two and is now an abandoned junkpile? Such highs and lows, I still think of that as an example of a classic blunder. Any updates on that?
I was just looking this up the other day, a site titled 'neverendingfootsteps' just did an article like a week ago. It's still there, still a mess.
@@silmarian well it's not easy to revitalise a place that should've never been build in such a s location in the first place
Oh hey, I went there with my university.
We had a national geographic photographer with us and he came back with some of the most incredible shots of that hotel, it's called Hotel Monte Palace! The view of the Sete Cidades caldera you get from it is just incredible!
Thanks for another brilliant video. The Middle of Nowhere in Normandy is actually one of my very favorite places in France, and a close up tour of a running CITYRAMA was icing on the Mille-Feuille. As an aside I was happy to donate to the restoration and with luck I'll get to see the finished project in person 😁
This bus is too cool!! Thanks for including a link to donate (If using chrome, a popup in the top right will offer to translate the page and it works brilliantly)
How cool is that!?
Btw, I like the 'boujou' in norman at the beginning. I'd love to see that for other regional languages/dialects as well :)
Amazing work! Love when a story comes full circle!
Amazing how fast it surfaced. This is the power of youtube, you can easily make another episode on short notice in between other planned videos. ormal tv lacks that flexibility.
As for the restoration, those guys are going to see a sudden spike in donations today lol.
Nice one Tim!
Kinda makes you think it was arranged as part of the publicity tour to raise funds for the restoration. Cant wait to see how the bus turns out!
Mid-century Citroën sounds like the sort of company where a designer found consuming hallucinogenic substances on work time got an immediate promotion.
*😎Wow what a thing, hats off to whoever had the foresight to put it in a corner years ago rather than simply weigh it in for scrap* 👍
another great video learning about quickly dismissed but fascinating history!
Nice cover of Kraftwerk's "Tour de France" while biking :)
With a vehicle this unique, they should put as much effort into restoring it as they’re putting into Notre-Dame….
Would cost a bit less too 😂
Amazing! Brilliant!!! Can't wait to see it restored.... and those Citroen vans in all different colors ❤️...
This is some fantastic news!
Nice seeing you here! Love your channel, despite not being much of a car freak!
Hi Tim, I was wondering if you were interested in a particular closed train station in London that has a fascinating history (at least to me)... Primrose Hill. Located on a spur between the Euston to Watford Junction DC line and North London Line in Chalk Farm, near Camden Town, it was a station that was closed because...it was inconvenient for the train company to operate it. Once upon a time it was a busy station, but by the 1980's most of the land that made up the station had been sold off and it was left with just a single island platform. Originally serving trains to and from Broad Street, over the North London Line, when Broad Street Station closed in 1986 to make way for the Broadgate Business Park, the service switched to Liverpool Street. However, the death nell had already been wrung from the station. British Rail were doing a typical tactic of the time to shortcut the closure process, turning potential customers away but running trains at inconvenient times (for example, towards the end, the one train a day to Liverpool Street was scheduled to arrive at 9:02am...handy if you had a job that requires you to start at 9am). Closure eventually came in 1992. Why do I bring it up, you may ask?
Well, in 2011, I was travelling on London Overground from Watford High Street (I'd visited the abandoned stations on the line to Croxley Green that day) and noticed that the trains that would normally terminate at London Euston were instead going to Stratford. At the time I thought, hang on, that's not on the same line as this, what's going on? Then days afterwards, by complete chance, I saw a video from Citytransportinfo showing the station, including a ride through the site where the station used to be. The footage revealed that the stairs from the station building were gone, the shelters on the island platform were gone, but although overgrown with weeds, the island platform itself survives
You could try to DM him on Instagram or Facebook
Sounds like something Geoff Marshall would be interested in.
@@Bartimayus more Jago Hazzard territory, but yes.
I think Jago Hazard did a video about Primrose Hill recently
Glad you found it! Can't watch the video right now. Need to do some work, but I'll be checking back in to watch it soon!
This. Is. Brilliant! And brilliant news that it's getting a hot bath and a patch up hehe. Seriously, it's going to look fantastic in four years, and I can't wait!
If they haven't thought of it already, perhaps you could suggest to them that they create a dedicated YT channel to document the repairs progress. That is a sure-fire way to keep the project in the public eye and add to donations.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, but your soundtracks are a seriously underrated part of your videos - the Top Gear theme song coming in in the background was amazing!
"Jessica" by the Allman Brothers Band. Thanks for the reminder on why he was playing that over cars! 😀 🚘 (My brain recognized it but did not quite place it at first.)
Incredible. A truly interesting piece of quirky design that had courage in its time. I am genuine happy that this will happen. I hope they will take it to Paris for some special limited tours or such. Would be such a great experience.
Brilliant!
Thanks, Tim, for this amazingly good news update. I think I can hold on the four years or so its going to take the professionals at Normandy Classiques(?) to restore this icon of 1970s French cool and style.
As a bit of a gear-head myself, I find myself wondering about how those guys will go about the restoration. Things like the engine, transmission, chassis, brakes, and electrics will be relatively straightforward. As will the paintwork and upholstery. But remaking all those windows and fabricating the unique bodywork? That's going to be a challenge. Not impossible, but the sort of task that will take specialist craftspeople a lot of time.
And, it must be said, are they going to do anything to address the (literally) glaring problem that doomed the original Cityrama to such a short service life? A restored Cityrama to sit in a covered museum would be nice. But a running Cityrama, taking paying guests on motorised tours of various French cities and towns? That would be outstanding. And to do that, they'll have to do some work on providing an effective VAC system. Bon chance, mes amis!
The insane amount of custom glasswork is scary! It could honestly be harder to do that than the bodywork, imo
I may be wrong but a one only surviving vehicle in the world with that beauty, that much history, plus the Citroen effect, well this bus is already literally priceless...would be a very beautiful part of a museum collection...
I'm surprised Citroën wouldn't want to refurbish it and put it on display.
@@CallieMasters5000 there are several citroen only museums that could be already interested i guess. That being said this bus was not designed by Citroën but made out of a Citroën truck.
Maybe they could see if Citroën or whoever made it could find the original designs and crank out some copies, if it's too hard to restore.
At the beginning I was shocked of the sad state the CITYRAMA is in. When I heard it is going to be restored I was so glad. This commentary had to wait until I had donated a small amount for the restauration. Thank you so much for the video. 🍒
Amazing! Just donated 20 Euros! Would love to see that monster in person some day!
This is like a great crossover between my favourite channels. The Tim Traveler and Motorcoach World. I highly recommend James Wang on Mortorcoach world if you are a bus-nut!
Donated, this is such a great find and one of the many reasons I love this channel
A worthy hommage, the Cityrama sure is smiling to know it is still loved 🙂
Fantastic find!
I donated to help restore this piece of history. If every one of your viewers was able to donate just 10€ this week, they might let you in to document the restoration after seeing the influence you have on us folks. :)
If every viewer of the channel donated then he would probably own the bus. So @The Tim Traveller you are another 10 euro closer to owning this fantastic vehicle with my contribution :)
Looks like it is in the right hands, definitely looking forward to your follow up!
This has made my entire week! I have often wondered if any had survived and am delighted that one has. Thanks so much for this.
Wicked cool bus. Love your vids. Thanks for showing us a glimpse of the future from the past proving once and for all that Tim Travel is possible.
What a great find! This might go right up there with the DS as my favorite vehicles of the 20th century.
Tour de France by Kraftwerk in the background? Marvellous!
Ha, I was loonking through the comments to see if soemeone else had recognized it!
What a gem! The collective brain of the internet works wonders!
Watching your videos make me smile. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Thank you!
All hail the almighty Cityrama
3:39 A warning light for "Lockheed", what the French colloquially call hydraulic brake fluid.
4:01 Was expecting Chris Goffey to appear on screen until you said it's good news, then I expected Clarkson or maybe May
He does follow it with a cover of "Jessica", which is used as TG's theme song
This video has made my morning. Thanks for sharing your travels to this. Here's to the remake in 4 years time.
If there was tons more of these they'd be great for tiny homes, anywho, am glad they're restoring it, love vintage vehicles and history, thanks for sharing
This is amazing. So good to see this is still around and has a future. Anyone got a TARDIS, I am impatient! I want to see it fixed now 😁
There's a TARDIS at the Warmley Waiting Room café near Bristol. Seriously
@@cakemartyr5794 yes there is, I'd forgotten that one. Great place for tea and cake.
@@bobsrailrelics I believe it's made of wood. There's a switch they can flick to do the landing sound. Not sure if it still works though
Didn't ride it in Paris in the Sixties, alas - too touristy for the likes of serious students like me. Now the sole survivor apparently lives near where I did during my first stay in France. Small world.
Amazing looking vehicle. It's so... well... French looking!
Great follow-up, Tim. We will wait four years to see you going back to the then rejuvenated Cityrama bus.
My buddy is on the Le Mans and he sent me pictures, I almost spat out my coffee :)
It's a great pity that France has such fragmented road transport museum collections.
Mind you, the situation is no better in UK.
Only the national railway museums of each country demonstrate how it can be done.
Can agree with that, but I quite like the funky nature of small French museums, near me is a museum of horse drawn hearses. Fascinating, but hardly ever open and one village of maybe 1000 people has three vehicle museums in it.
You have to ask, why 3?
A fantastic and beautiful vehicle, I look forward to seeing it finished. Thank you for allowing us to see the wonder 👏
Love the editing and musical choice for the reveal
But no pan up into the sun. C'mon, Tim, sometimes a blown CCD is the price to pay for art!
But that’s about the future for this bus but what I want to know is how did this particular bus end up like it is now.
they could choose languages?? that's impressive
was it a tape-based system or something?
You think they stuffed 6 tour guides in a compartment to give live narration?! Probably a tape.
I fully believe they put 6 tour guides in there and probably 6 more just in case the first 6 got tired. They all had to pay for their seats too. I bet that's how the Cityrama made much of its money
Probably tape with multiple tracks. Or maybe some custom-built device.
6:00 From a french forum : 8 languages on 6 big magnetic tapes. The system takes about 2m².
(still searching how it works)
Im so happy it gets a renovation! Thanx for showing!
Well done for tracking it down! I'll look forward to seeing your video of her running in a few years time and hopefully see her myself one day!
It just amazing to see the real thing in video form, awesome video Tim
So glad you finally got to see it and make a follow up video, great that it’s being repaired!
Found your channel on the first video about this bus. Was actually glad the algorithm showed me a conclusion to that video!!! Great video
The "good news!" plus "Jessica" playing in the background made me smile.
Omg! I only just watched your video on the cityramas literally last week. What a treat this is!
Man, this brought me to tears. I'm so glad this piece of history still exists and will be restored !
Wonderful Stuff.
Thanks Tim
Love it that France too has a love of classic cars and restoring them along with all other vintage vehicles.
This vhicle reminds me of some of the crazy 'House Truck' conversions made from old buses and lorries from the same period and used for living from the sixties and seventies.
Roger Beck co-wrote a book titled 'Some Turtles have nice shells' which has amazing photos of these unique quirky vehicles used as homes from that period. He took them whilst travelling alongside others over 20 years spent living on the road.
"while you get toasted.." what a choice of words! But then, having followed you over the years, this is par for the course.
There exists something similar in Kyoto Japan. A double deck bus that runs in the autumn season for sightseeing. The additional benefit it has is that you can eat and drink along the way on the bus! And if the weather is agreeable they take the glass roof off so it gets more fun!
Really fascinating story. Thank you for persevering with the search and delighted that the vehicle has not only been found but is to be restored. I will send a donation to the group. This is what makes the old (and current) transport scene so interesting.
Wow! That's so cool! Thanks for the video, I'm happy to donate to this great restoration project.
I’m so glad you got to see it and share the experience with us!
Fantastic news! I've been following it on Facebook. Hope everyone donates!
As always, top video. Interesting topic, spot on musical accompaniment, easy listening (but informative) script, an interview and great views of the bus!
What a great story you fell into and chose to bring us all along. Can't wait for an update.
Finally, some good news to start the day! Merci, Tim!