thanks for this video. I have been having problems mounting my batwing to my Baja rack and now I think ill be switching to the rhino rack pioneer platform.
I really like this rack and much nicer than the original on your vehicle. My favorite accessory is the "stick" holders since they can accommodate a shovel, rod, etc.
Serious 4x4ers in Australia are finding major faults with the rhino rack systems, A rack with a 100kg rating ends up being something like 23kg in offroad situations, all depends on the roof rating of your vehicle,
Ya i am alarmed about this. If you are talking about Ronny's calculation, well he did it wrong. It should be 32kg for offroad load. I will point out in a upcoming video perhaps. And I am well aware of my different load rating as there was a chart printed on the first page of product manual, can't miss that.
Please read the fine print on Rhino Rack which the supplier had not being telling its customers on the loading limitations upfront but hidden in fine prints where customers do not usually look for. It had much less loading limit if used off-road. A recent event of the Rhino rack slipping off the 4wd by Tyler Thompson ( check his UA-cam channel of same name ) in Australia revealed this limitation which caught many by surprise. Subsequently, Ronny Dahl ( a big you tuber of same name in Australia) shared the warning on Rhino Rack limitations which even he was surprised by its low loading limits.
Thank you for informing me this! I actually have a video coming out soon talking about this. And yes i read the instructions in full and these numbers aren’t difficult to find at all
Make sure you don’t overload it, what is your l9mit Toyota allows you to put on your roof. What is load rating of your rack on and off road. This has been a big issue of late here in Australia.
Yes thank you mate! I am well under my off-road load rating and the only time i come close is when the swag is on there. The data is not hard to find - a chart of the different rating and their definition was printed right on the front page of product manual and it's the first thing I saw, didn't even need to find it.
Great video as always! I’m not sure if you’ve seen, there’s been a few content creators realising that the off-road payload for Rhino Platforms is, well, dismal. 20-30kg max off-road. Here’s one from Ronny Dahl today on it: ua-cam.com/video/r32xd9z4SZ4/v-deo.html I’m particularly bummed, also having the same rack and platform on the same vehicle as him.
Yes but luckily for us 100 series owners we have a much stronger roof construction than the poxy Hilux. About 120kgs dynamic load from memory. No stupid little pop rivets for mounting the backbone on the 100, instead there are 12 good size bolts. So the load raitings on and off road are much higher for this roof and rack system. But yes, always good to check your load raiting for your type of vehicle and rack system. As Tyler and Ronny found out the hard way.
@@SteveBurns80 absolutely, totally agree. Rhino Rack just released a load calculator: www.rhinorack.com/en-au/load-rating-calculator According to this, it looks like the 105 is good for around 53kg of payload off road, which is better than 25kg, but still not enough for many (or any) RTTs (assuming absolutely nothing else is on the rack).
@@bencorlett Yeah it's just bad form that Rhino have such a confusing load rating! It happened to me 8 years ago when my Rhino track mounts ripped off my Triton roof. I complained back then to Rhino that their load raitings need to be more clear. I didn't even get a response. Out of principal, I went for a different brand of rack for my 100 series. The brand I went with keeps it very simple by only giving the off road/ dynamic load rating.
@@SteveBurns80 Strange because on my product manual there is a chart of different loal rating and their definitions printed right in the middle. with actual numbers. not hard to find at all..
What's your experience of overlanding with Jeep Wrangler and Land Cruiser? Which vehicle is more practical or fun for overlanding and touring? Honestly I'm more attracted to Jeep, but it seems there are quite a few limitations in terms of weight and towing.
Honestly I'd put Jeep for first option if you are into recreational 4 wheeling like rock crawling. However for prolonged overlanding trips, factors other than offroad capabilities are also taken into strong consideration: ride confort, reliability, space, payload, and yes towing. hence I'd lean towards a big IFS for this purpose. Yes Jeep gave me more of a wow factor but in the end it's about actual usage. Great vehicle, I'm just too chicken to hard core rock crawl.
Where did you find all the info for planning your trips? I'm guessing forums! Is there anything that you used that was a game changer for the maps, roads,etc
Friends are good for getting route ideas. But for finding my own route, i just browse the map. I use Gaia GPS (here's a discount www.gaiagps.com/discounts/#_r_monique) As for BC, there's a guy making more indepth map layer to put in Gaia, it's called Top Notch Navigation. Basically I just zoom in to the town I'm heading to and check surrounding forest roads, look for lakes and creeks.
Careful with how much weight you put on it, it has a on road and “ of road rating” and there are both different, it does not hold as much weight off road as it does on road! check out Tyler Thompson’s roof rack video on UA-cam, he explains everything.
Thank you mate! Yes I am well aware of the numbers and in fact there is a chart of the different rating and their definitions printed on the FRONT PAGE of product manual. I am well under the off-road load. The time i come close is when the swag is on there.
I have a Front Runner roof rack and bed rack with a bunch of their accessories on my truck. I should have got the Rhino Rack system. This looks like a good product.
so these guys can get the rhino backbone regardless of vehicle type because everywhere I've inquired I was told they can't get the backbone and would have to use the feet style instead.
Depending on the vehicle they may or may not have backbone for it. I had Rhino Rack heavy duty cross bar before to support my tray, and pioneer platform can't mount on that so changed the whole thing
ARB Base or Tracklander is better, with loadings. Suppliers/installers are negligent without advising consumers real world loads for on road and offload, that's a sneaky feature 🤦♂️
@@OverlandLady thanks . I thought that's what you said. I looked at their website but couldn't find them. Seems like the overseas Land Cruisers didn't get the sunroof option much.
I just can’t believe that people went and drilled the roof to couse permanent damage just to fit expensive complicated roof rack with very minimal load and hold to the car with rivets which ment to hold registration plate
In which part did you see we use rivet in my setup? It’s instructed to use factory mounting points which are threaded. So my kit uses M8 bolts which technically is less sturdy than properly done rivet bcz rivets don’t move if holes and washers are installed properly. My offroad load rating is 55kg, along with on road and static data in a chart printed on the FRONT PAGE on my instruction paper which every user should have seen. If you are using a shop, it is the shop’s responsibility to give this to you. Thank you for caring about my safety mate! Really appreciate it. And i take it just as seriously cuz im often out alone. Always learning.
Here's Tyler Thompson video that had a mishap for his Rhino rack. he alerted Ronny about this ua-cam.com/video/eMx232haRyo/v-deo.html basically you can't put much on the rack if you are offroading. might be different for 100series. it is very misleading that Rhino didn't explicitly make this known.
Ya thanks mate for alarming me this!! I am well under my off-road load rating and the only time i come close is when the swag is on there. The data is not hard to find - a chart of the different rating and their definition was printed right on the front page of product manual and it's the first thing I saw, didn't even need to find it. Not misleading at all since they put this information out there and make the equation known. it is universal physics.
Dear Overland Lady - You have ruined me! Your beauty, intelligence and sense of humor haunt each waking hour. I've become addicted to your channel; watching day and night. I can't eat, I can't sleep. I loop your episodes so I can watch your exploited over and over, again. I listen intensely, longing to hear you articulate each perfectly pronounced word. Why, why, why have you done this to me!? Why do you have to love all the things I love to do (and still be a HOTTIE)!? My god woman! WHYYYYYYYYY!!?
To be fair, Tyler Thompson sounded the alarm and did a better run through of why these rack systems have some serious flaws. "Is your Roof Rack a Disaster waiting to happen?!"
@@iamgodiamthebest Yeah, especially concerning if you are driving behind someone with a rack ready to become a projectile. When somebody unfortunately dies, then you'll probably see some legislation.
Not the case with 100 series. The roof construction is far stronger than any poxy Hilux or other dual cab and has a much higher load raiting on road and off road. The rack is also rated higher due to the 12 m8 bolt mountings for the backbone. No stupid pop rivets used with this system.
@@SteveBurns80 Fair enough, I'll grant you that. The Land Cruiser does have a very impressive 200kg roof load rating. However, the point Ronny and Tyler make is the importance of calculating the Off Road Load rating for whatever vehicle you're modifying. Using RR's calculator, for the Pioneer Platform on a 100 Series, the Payload Capacity is 77kg. Then when you calculate the Off Road Load rating 77kg/1.5 = 51.3kg. The calculator could be better but the worst part is they don't just give you the Off Road Load rating as a calculation result. Instead they write "Special Note: Off Road Load Rating can be calculated by using the formula provided in your Rhino-Rack fitting instructions." This is something you need to know before you purchase to see if it will meet your needs.
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Glad to help and be apart of your journey. I'm excited to see where your channel and adventures bring you.
Thank you Kelly!!
thanks for this video. I have been having problems mounting my batwing to my Baja rack and now I think ill be switching to the rhino rack pioneer platform.
I really like this rack and much nicer than the original on your vehicle. My favorite accessory is the "stick" holders since they can accommodate a shovel, rod, etc.
haha the Thic Stick holder!
Serious 4x4ers in Australia are finding major faults with the rhino rack systems,
A rack with a 100kg rating ends up being something like 23kg in offroad situations, all depends on the roof rating of your vehicle,
Ya i am alarmed about this. If you are talking about Ronny's calculation, well he did it wrong. It should be 32kg for offroad load. I will point out in a upcoming video perhaps. And I am well aware of my different load rating as there was a chart printed on the first page of product manual, can't miss that.
@@OverlandLady Yeah Ronny did do another video after his first one about the rack, but has gone with another brand now,
Very nice set-up, I'm sure they have hundreds of different keys cut. Cheers!
6:20 Priceless. Great review! Can't wait to build throw on my new rack.
haha she said stick tho
So I have watched some vids and I always watch to the end so..... you earned a subscriber !
The shovel and Mattracks are something you should always have with you.
What a dope rooftop rack! Cool vid! Thanks!!
Please read the fine print on Rhino Rack which the supplier had not being telling its customers on the loading limitations upfront but hidden in fine prints where customers do not usually look for. It had much less loading limit if used off-road. A recent event of the Rhino rack slipping off the 4wd by Tyler Thompson ( check his UA-cam channel of same name ) in Australia revealed this limitation which caught many by surprise. Subsequently, Ronny Dahl ( a big you tuber of same name in Australia) shared the warning on Rhino Rack limitations which even he was surprised by its low loading limits.
Thank you for informing me this! I actually have a video coming out soon talking about this. And yes i read the instructions in full and these numbers aren’t difficult to find at all
Make sure you don’t overload it, what is your l9mit Toyota allows you to put on your roof. What is load rating of your rack on and off road. This has been a big issue of late here in Australia.
Yes thank you mate! I am well under my off-road load rating and the only time i come close is when the swag is on there. The data is not hard to find - a chart of the different rating and their definition was printed right on the front page of product manual and it's the first thing I saw, didn't even need to find it.
Nice LC, waiting mine to complete and hit the road after the pandemic.
Looks owsome. It will serve you well. 👍🍻
I love your videos, very good information.
Your good, keys are all different in each kit.
Shovel mount!👍
I love your video!
Really wish Rhino-Rack would make one for the 1st gen Sequoias.
The Rhino Rack can be cut to fit any size you want. You can use the Rhino "towers" to mount to roof of vehicle.
Great video as always!
I’m not sure if you’ve seen, there’s been a few content creators realising that the off-road payload for Rhino Platforms is, well, dismal. 20-30kg max off-road.
Here’s one from Ronny Dahl today on it: ua-cam.com/video/r32xd9z4SZ4/v-deo.html
I’m particularly bummed, also having the same rack and platform on the same vehicle as him.
Yes but luckily for us 100 series owners we have a much stronger roof construction than the poxy Hilux. About 120kgs dynamic load from memory. No stupid little pop rivets for mounting the backbone on the 100, instead there are 12 good size bolts. So the load raitings on and off road are much higher for this roof and rack system.
But yes, always good to check your load raiting for your type of vehicle and rack system. As Tyler and Ronny found out the hard way.
@@SteveBurns80 absolutely, totally agree.
Rhino Rack just released a load calculator: www.rhinorack.com/en-au/load-rating-calculator
According to this, it looks like the 105 is good for around 53kg of payload off road, which is better than 25kg, but still not enough for many (or any) RTTs (assuming absolutely nothing else is on the rack).
@@bencorlett Yeah it's just bad form that Rhino have such a confusing load rating! It happened to me 8 years ago when my Rhino track mounts ripped off my Triton roof. I complained back then to Rhino that their load raitings need to be more clear. I didn't even get a response.
Out of principal, I went for a different brand of rack for my 100 series. The brand I went with keeps it very simple by only giving the off road/ dynamic load rating.
Yes, check the numbers, you are probably overloading. Seems a real problem
@@SteveBurns80 Strange because on my product manual there is a chart of different loal rating and their definitions printed right in the middle. with actual numbers. not hard to find at all..
What's your experience of overlanding with Jeep Wrangler and Land Cruiser? Which vehicle is more practical or fun for overlanding and touring? Honestly I'm more attracted to Jeep, but it seems there are quite a few limitations in terms of weight and towing.
Honestly I'd put Jeep for first option if you are into recreational 4 wheeling like rock crawling. However for prolonged overlanding trips, factors other than offroad capabilities are also taken into strong consideration: ride confort, reliability, space, payload, and yes towing. hence I'd lean towards a big IFS for this purpose. Yes Jeep gave me more of a wow factor but in the end it's about actual usage. Great vehicle, I'm just too chicken to hard core rock crawl.
Got the same shovel! Did you know the head can fold in?
Yep i do
Where did you find all the info for planning your trips? I'm guessing forums! Is there anything that you used that was a game changer for the maps, roads,etc
Friends are good for getting route ideas. But for finding my own route, i just browse the map.
I use Gaia GPS (here's a discount www.gaiagps.com/discounts/#_r_monique)
As for BC, there's a guy making more indepth map layer to put in Gaia, it's called Top Notch Navigation. Basically I just zoom in to the town I'm heading to and check surrounding forest roads, look for lakes and creeks.
Careful with how much weight you put on it, it has a on road and “ of road rating” and there are both different, it does not hold as much weight off road as it does on road! check out Tyler Thompson’s roof rack video on UA-cam, he explains everything.
Thank you mate! Yes I am well aware of the numbers and in fact there is a chart of the different rating and their definitions printed on the FRONT PAGE of product manual. I am well under the off-road load. The time i come close is when the swag is on there.
@@OverlandLady good too know, a lot of people have been caught out bye this.
Size ? Of the roof rack in inch?
I have a Front Runner roof rack and bed rack with a bunch of their accessories on my truck. I should have got the Rhino Rack system. This looks like a good product.
What’s the off road load rate of that rack plz
All new? So series 6?
How’d it affect mileage? And noise??
I didn’t notice any noise. As for milage, the car itself is a huge gas tiger so a rack don’t do much.
Can't leave it on the wind noise is bad.
so these guys can get the rhino backbone regardless of vehicle type because everywhere I've inquired I was told they can't get the backbone and would have to use the feet style instead.
Depending on the vehicle they may or may not have backbone for it. I had Rhino Rack heavy duty cross bar before to support my tray, and pioneer platform can't mount on that so changed the whole thing
ARB Base or Tracklander is better, with loadings.
Suppliers/installers are negligent without advising consumers real world loads for on road and offload, that's a sneaky feature 🤦♂️
С меня как всегда лайк
Tyler Thompson and a few
Others havnt had good experiences with this platform. Stay safe.
I talked about it in my other video
@@OverlandLady lol I’ve watched so many back to back but I must have missed that one.
Very good
Why is her right hand drive ? What town / region is this and what accent is her's ?
haha i get this confusion a lot... So i made a short film to answer. Watch my channel title video you'll understand all of it.
Not so good if you have a sunroof ;-(. Where did you say you got that snow shovel? I don't see it on your gear page.
Costco.... 2 packes for pretty cheap.. If you want to keep the function of a sunroof i believe you can get half rack..
@@OverlandLady thanks . I thought that's what you said. I looked at their website but couldn't find them. Seems like the overseas Land Cruisers didn't get the sunroof option much.
@@NigelNaughton shoot them an email and see if they have solutions for ya.
U looks gorgeous
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Anywhere here because Tyler warning about roof racks???
Yes well alarmed by many of you🙏🏻 and i am going to make a video about that.
Not happy with how fragile rhinos 270 awning is given price.
She must have a hearing problem because mine was on for one week and then came off the wind noise is over the top.
I just can’t believe that people went and drilled the roof to couse permanent damage just to fit expensive complicated roof rack with very minimal load and hold to the car with rivets which ment to hold registration plate
In which part did you see we use rivet in my setup? It’s instructed to use factory mounting points which are threaded. So my kit uses M8 bolts which technically is less sturdy than properly done rivet bcz rivets don’t move if holes and washers are installed properly.
My offroad load rating is 55kg, along with on road and static data in a chart printed on the FRONT PAGE on my instruction paper which every user should have seen. If you are using a shop, it is the shop’s responsibility to give this to you.
Thank you for caring about my safety mate! Really appreciate it. And i take it just as seriously cuz im often out alone. Always learning.
Here's Tyler Thompson video that had a mishap for his Rhino rack. he alerted Ronny about this
ua-cam.com/video/eMx232haRyo/v-deo.html
basically you can't put much on the rack if you are offroading. might be different for 100series.
it is very misleading that Rhino didn't explicitly make this known.
Ya thanks mate for alarming me this!! I am well under my off-road load rating and the only time i come close is when the swag is on there. The data is not hard to find - a chart of the different rating and their definition was printed right on the front page of product manual and it's the first thing I saw, didn't even need to find it. Not misleading at all since they put this information out there and make the equation known. it is universal physics.
Dear Overland Lady - You have ruined me! Your beauty, intelligence and sense of humor haunt each waking hour. I've become addicted to your channel; watching day and night. I can't eat, I can't sleep. I loop your episodes so I can watch your exploited over and over, again. I listen intensely, longing to hear you articulate each perfectly pronounced word. Why, why, why have you done this to me!? Why do you have to love all the things I love to do (and still be a HOTTIE)!? My god woman! WHYYYYYYYYY!!?
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Perfectly pronounced word would be a total overstatement haha. thank you 💙
🐾👣🙏
Unfortunately poor timing... watch Ronny Dahl’s newest video about how you’ve got maybe 20-30kg max that you can put on it
To be fair, Tyler Thompson sounded the alarm and did a better run through of why these rack systems have some serious flaws. "Is your Roof Rack a Disaster waiting to happen?!"
@@LocavoreSpace agreed actually now that I’ve seen both. Two good videos with a concerning issue
@@iamgodiamthebest Yeah, especially concerning if you are driving behind someone with a rack ready to become a projectile. When somebody unfortunately dies, then you'll probably see some legislation.
Not the case with 100 series. The roof construction is far stronger than any poxy Hilux or other dual cab and has a much higher load raiting on road and off road. The rack is also rated higher due to the 12 m8 bolt mountings for the backbone. No stupid pop rivets used with this system.
@@SteveBurns80 Fair enough, I'll grant you that. The Land Cruiser does have a very impressive 200kg roof load rating. However, the point Ronny and Tyler make is the importance of calculating the Off Road Load rating for whatever vehicle you're modifying.
Using RR's calculator, for the Pioneer Platform on a 100 Series, the Payload Capacity is 77kg. Then when you calculate the Off Road Load rating 77kg/1.5 = 51.3kg.
The calculator could be better but the worst part is they don't just give you the Off Road Load rating as a calculation result. Instead they write "Special Note: Off Road Load Rating can be calculated by using the formula provided in your Rhino-Rack fitting instructions." This is something you need to know before you purchase to see if it will meet your needs.
So dumb the snowboard carrier can't just mount to the c channels
First oneee🤣
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