@beerancher3225 bullshit. Theres 1000s of experienced and keen shooters chomping at the bit to get access. Something that happenef to a bloke you once spoke to's neighbour isn't a good enough excuse. Clubs run programs farmers dont take on. Shooters will pay to get into a property or at least provide a case or gifts. Theres far more responsible shooters than that one local young yobbo that once shot up an old tank. Shooters wpuld be happy to sigm a contract to pay for any damage that may occur. 10s of thoysands if shooters shoot on public land without incident.
@@bennichols1113 Trying to work constructively with rec hunters was the most frustrating part of managing pest control on public land. They were un-cooperative (knowing better) and ineffective. Worse usually, obstructive. Solving the problems without them would be preferable. Rec hunting is not being criticised as a sport away from any targeted pest control projects. misrepresenting it as being effective, or even useful in most cases, is delusional. Fishermen are not the only with fertile imaginations about themselves.
@@sloth_e Bullshit. Been there, tried that, & the thousands of khunters that participated made the problem much much worse. Not in Aus, but Aus hunters got involved (there got to be so many pests even they couldn't help but find them). They were not alone, some of the pest control managers and their hunters were like the proverbial tits on a boar also, and did their part to make a moderate problem potentially insurmountable until they grow the gonads to use poison effectively. Rec hunters don't want to control their amusement. Added to competence & knowledge, it often results in obstruction.
On feral pigs. I noted, “in order to learn more about how to control them” in this presentation. And that there was contact with - “invited by the ACTA to work with the United States Department of Agriculture and the Texas Parks & Wildlife Department to execute a HOGGONE trial in Texas that focused on gathering evidence about the effectiveness of HOGGONE to control feral pigs”, on other media. Now I. Most Respectfully. And. As sincerely. Do truly hope that the contact in the UA of A did not involve the State Director of the USDA-WS Program in Texas. Michael Bodenchuk. Because. Upon offering consultation to reduce and control wild pig numbers. Dramatically. No poison. What so ever. No shooting. Trapping. And hugely cost-effectively. He said to me. In person. Per telephone call. “I have no interest in this!” He can check his mobile phone records! The same brush-off goes from the Texas Governor and Senator. Now is the moral of this story. That if the people who should. Have this attitude towards uncalculable annual environmental-, and 2,5 billion US dollars damage, annually. What the hell are they there for? Other than their monthly pay checques. And awaiting their glorious day of retirement? Because they do not give a feral pig’s shit about the problem. I trust. Once more. That your attitude, Darren Marshall - forgive, I do not have your correct salutation-, towards your calling. Is vastly different than what I experienced from the the USA. God bless!
Come out to western NSW, no shortage of feral pigs, goats and foxes plus wild dogs and cats. Getting good professional hunters to do a property is hard, too many "cowboys" and trigger happy wankers. "Get some pork on your fork!"😄
Nothing about where they came from to begin with. I don't know about Aussie, but here in NZ, hunters release them so that they have something to hunt. They're quite happy to keep pigs on rural land and in the regional and national parks - so that they have a hobby.
A huge problem is just plain greed. Here in Texas we have had a huge wild pig problem for decades. Trouble is, the landowners all want hunters to pay to come and shoot them…….so Dave and Fred come from the City to “hunt wild hogs”. They pay the landowner, go out and shoot a pig or two. Then they load up their trophy and go home…..two hogs……there is the main reason we’ve never been able to get them under control. Years ago a wildlife biologist told me, that because of the pigs insane rate of reproduction, to hold any particular group of pigs at zero growth, you need to kill 80% of that group…..every year. So two hogs ain’t gonna make one iota of difference in the larger scheme. And pigs will stay in an area with good feed, water and cover. But, with heavy hunting pressure, they will find other places to live……I’ve seen it time and again. They are smart, fast, tough and will adapt to just about any environment. Too much pressure in one area will move them elsewhere. If hunted in daylight they will go nocturnal very quickly. Anyone serious about solving this problem needs to look into a heavy trapping operation. The object needs to be collecting the majority of a sounder all at one time. Hunting pressure on pigs is very similar to hunting coyotes. Any of them that escape the hunter, go away educated and will be much harder to get the next time. I wish y’all well in your attempts. 👍🏻
TinMan0555. I have. Regrettably. Bad news. I have offered consultation to rid 80% of wild pigs. To your Senator. And Governer. And to the top structure of Agriculture. There is no interest. As stated in person by word of mouth during a telephone conversation. The authorities in Texas does not care a second. Or nineteenth shit about anyone else. Except. Possibly a certain clique. Or whatever. The annual ag loss amounts to $ 2,5B. The hunting industry netts 30B $............ And the safety of urban dwellers. The loss to fauna and flora. And the demise of farmers is of no consequence! God bless America!
And. As you mentioned. Shooting is such big business/providing such vast numbers of employment and income. That authorities could not give a damn about secondary damages or losses. Big business is trapping and transporting feral pigs to properties who allow hunting/prospective hunting locations. Even across State borders in the USA is totally legal. Moreover. Is the feedback on the inter net regarding feral pigs' excursions into towns and cities at nigh. People have been killed by feral pigs. Hugely alarming. And even this doesn't even make a single wave! Please read my comment on the Texas Government's couldn't care less attetude?
Shooting isnt effective really. Catch them, put the tracking device, find the key points, and then heavily bait the key points to take each population out. That way you will be efficient and effective.
Never will work Pigs are too smart when you think you’ve got it under control all that’s happened is that piggies just stop going to that same spot and also farmers want to charge people to hunt their property which is a turn off why should we pay to go on a property hunt pigs then sell them as wild boar to go to China there’s money in this game but that’s what it is A game it’s just by chance when you think you’ve worked it all out it doesn’t help just working on a fucking tracker on a pig doesn’t mean fucking shit I’ve hunted for 48 years I’ve put trackers on pigs and has seen them go 30 km in one night because there’s fucking food everywhere Don’t believe this bullshit you’re just trying to use this as a game to stop hunting for recreational use for the greenies
Feral camels. Goats. Pigs. Rabbits. There are legions of markets. It is food for a starving world. The penny's dropping seems to be a big problem. Please read my comment to this presentation.
They are relatively easy to get the majority. Being effective is a different story, and since most hunters are not as expert as they fancy, very few are suitable to do pest control effectively. Includes plenty of "pros". However, where pigs are travelling 30km a night is a situation outside the experience leading to those comments. Have tracked what was probably a mob travel a valley t30km long & back immediately after they were released, & then they settled in one location. Was over a season.
@@bruiser6479 The moron thought they could all be corralled. We have idiots like that in the UK. They think they can trap rats and release them elsewhere. they get 10/10 on the pratometer.
In Canada farming with wild pigs were prohibited. Farmers opened the gates. And now Canada. In all its wisdom. Has a super pig problem as well. Such that an infestation into North Dakota and Montana is reported. While scratching their noses. The USA now have "wild Boar' in thirty six States. And counting.
I think the Federal government should permanently employ large numbers of Professional Shooters to not only shoot but bait feral pigs using mobile cages,this to be a relentless program,that's my suggestion.
In Texas each day road crews can pick up swine hit by trucks at night
Give us back your semi auto then
Why not let more hunters on property’s?
Because a lot of them can't tell the difference between pigs and sheep or water tanks .
@@beerancher3225solve the problem yourself then.
@beerancher3225 bullshit. Theres 1000s of experienced and keen shooters chomping at the bit to get access.
Something that happenef to a bloke you once spoke to's neighbour isn't a good enough excuse. Clubs run programs farmers dont take on. Shooters will pay to get into a property or at least provide a case or gifts. Theres far more responsible shooters than that one local young yobbo that once shot up an old tank.
Shooters wpuld be happy to sigm a contract to pay for any damage that may occur.
10s of thoysands if shooters shoot on public land without incident.
@@bennichols1113 Trying to work constructively with rec hunters was the most frustrating part of managing pest control on public land. They were un-cooperative (knowing better) and ineffective. Worse usually, obstructive. Solving the problems without them would be preferable.
Rec hunting is not being criticised as a sport away from any targeted pest control projects. misrepresenting it as being effective, or even useful in most cases, is delusional.
Fishermen are not the only with fertile imaginations about themselves.
@@sloth_e Bullshit. Been there, tried that, & the thousands of khunters that participated made the problem much much worse. Not in Aus, but Aus hunters got involved (there got to be so many pests even they couldn't help but find them). They were not alone, some of the pest control managers and their hunters were like the proverbial tits on a boar also, and did their part to make a moderate problem potentially insurmountable until they grow the gonads to use poison effectively.
Rec hunters don't want to control their amusement. Added to competence & knowledge, it often results in obstruction.
Where was this filmed🤔🤔
Moree bruddah. Cotton country but plenty of pigs. Not as big as up north but plenty around the water.
@@elgordo9031 thnx bro.. yep around dubbo and mudgee hogs here also...it's crazy..😪😪
Aussie
On feral pigs. I noted, “in order to learn more about how to control them” in this presentation. And that there was contact with - “invited by the ACTA to work with the United States Department of Agriculture and the Texas Parks & Wildlife Department to execute a HOGGONE trial in Texas that focused on gathering evidence about the effectiveness of HOGGONE to control feral pigs”, on other media.
Now I. Most Respectfully. And. As sincerely. Do truly hope that the contact in the UA of A did not involve the State Director of the USDA-WS Program in Texas. Michael Bodenchuk. Because. Upon offering consultation to reduce and control wild pig numbers. Dramatically. No poison. What so ever. No shooting. Trapping. And hugely cost-effectively. He said to me. In person. Per telephone call. “I have no interest in this!” He can check his mobile phone records!
The same brush-off goes from the Texas Governor and Senator. Now is the moral of this story. That if the people who should. Have this attitude towards uncalculable annual environmental-, and 2,5 billion US dollars damage, annually. What the hell are they there for? Other than their monthly pay checques. And awaiting their glorious day of retirement? Because they do not give a feral pig’s shit about the problem.
I trust. Once more. That your attitude, Darren Marshall - forgive, I do not have your correct salutation-, towards your calling. Is vastly different than what I experienced from the the USA.
God bless!
Come out to western NSW, no shortage of feral pigs, goats and foxes plus wild dogs and cats. Getting good professional hunters to do a property is hard, too many "cowboys" and trigger happy wankers. "Get some pork on your fork!"😄
It's refreshing to see some reality in some comments. Most haven't a clue.
Pigs hate electric fences
Need a few drones with guns and a couple of boxes of redbull . Those stats are unbelievable .
Nothing about where they came from to begin with. I don't know about Aussie, but here in NZ, hunters release them so that they have something to hunt. They're quite happy to keep pigs on rural land and in the regional and national parks - so that they have a hobby.
The pigs have done massive damage because they have Sharp hooves and eat lots of native animals to in the national Parks in Australia
There's lots of places in Australia for hobby shooting
A huge problem is just plain greed. Here in Texas we have had a huge wild pig problem for decades. Trouble is, the landowners all want hunters to pay to come and shoot them…….so Dave and Fred come from the City to “hunt wild hogs”. They pay the landowner, go out and shoot a pig or two. Then they load up their trophy and go home…..two hogs……there is the main reason we’ve never been able to get them under control. Years ago a wildlife biologist told me, that because of the pigs insane rate of reproduction, to hold any particular group of pigs at zero growth, you need to kill 80% of that group…..every year. So two hogs ain’t gonna make one iota of difference in the larger scheme. And pigs will stay in an area with good feed, water and cover. But, with heavy hunting pressure, they will find other places to live……I’ve seen it time and again. They are smart, fast, tough and will adapt to just about any environment. Too much pressure in one area will move them elsewhere. If hunted in daylight they will go nocturnal very quickly. Anyone serious about solving this problem needs to look into a heavy trapping operation. The object needs to be collecting the majority of a sounder all at one time. Hunting pressure on pigs is very similar to hunting coyotes. Any of them that escape the hunter, go away educated and will be much harder to get the next time. I wish y’all well in your attempts. 👍🏻
TinMan0555.
I have. Regrettably. Bad news.
I have offered consultation to rid 80% of wild pigs. To your Senator. And Governer. And to the top structure of Agriculture. There is no interest. As stated in person by word of mouth during a telephone conversation.
The authorities in Texas does not care a second. Or nineteenth shit about anyone else. Except. Possibly a certain clique. Or whatever.
The annual ag loss amounts to $ 2,5B. The hunting industry netts 30B $............
And the safety of urban dwellers. The loss to fauna and flora. And the demise of farmers is of no consequence!
God bless America!
And. As you mentioned. Shooting is such big business/providing such vast numbers of employment and income. That authorities could not give a damn about secondary damages or losses.
Big business is trapping and transporting feral pigs to properties who allow hunting/prospective hunting locations. Even across State borders in the USA is totally legal.
Moreover. Is the feedback on the inter net regarding feral pigs' excursions into towns and cities at nigh. People have been killed by feral pigs. Hugely alarming. And even this doesn't even make a single wave!
Please read my comment on the Texas Government's couldn't care less attetude?
Shooting isnt effective really.
Catch them, put the tracking device, find the key points, and then heavily bait the key points to take each population out.
That way you will be efficient and effective.
How right you are! In relation to the population growth. Trapping. AND shooting. Means zero.
Where's my .22lr?
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Why don't they just raise pigs?
Sell the wild pigs , the flavour would be amazing
And the worms and brucellosis would add to the flavour !
I didn’t think about that part
Never will work Pigs are too smart when you think you’ve got it under control all that’s happened is that piggies just stop going to that same spot and also farmers want to charge people to hunt their property which is a turn off why should we pay to go on a property hunt pigs then sell them as wild boar to go to China there’s money in this game but that’s what it is A game it’s just by chance when you think you’ve worked it all out it doesn’t help just working on a fucking tracker on a pig doesn’t mean fucking shit I’ve hunted for 48 years I’ve put trackers on pigs and has seen them go 30 km in one night because there’s fucking food everywhere Don’t believe this bullshit you’re just trying to use this as a game to stop hunting for recreational use for the greenies
Okay we have tracked them what now.!!.
Feral camels. Goats. Pigs. Rabbits. There are legions of markets. It is food for a starving world. The penny's dropping seems to be a big problem.
Please read my comment to this presentation.
They are relatively easy to get the majority. Being effective is a different story, and since most hunters are not as expert as they fancy, very few are suitable to do pest control effectively. Includes plenty of "pros". However, where pigs are travelling 30km a night is a situation outside the experience leading to those comments.
Have tracked what was probably a mob travel a valley t30km long & back immediately after they were released, & then they settled in one location. Was over a season.
maybe they should just farm pigs
How? What farming experience do you bring to the table that you can share with other farmers?
@@bruiser6479 The moron thought they could all be corralled. We have idiots like that in the UK. They think they can trap rats and release them elsewhere. they get 10/10 on the pratometer.
@@bruiser6479 I was born on a farm and had the same question. If pigs grow so easily, sell pigs.
In Canada farming with wild pigs were prohibited. Farmers opened the gates. And now Canada. In all its wisdom. Has a super pig problem as well. Such that an infestation into North Dakota and Montana is reported.
While scratching their noses. The USA now have "wild Boar' in thirty six States. And counting.
I think the Federal government should permanently employ large numbers of Professional Shooters to not only shoot but bait feral pigs using mobile cages,this to be a relentless program,that's my suggestion.