The sound comparison between full steps and microstepping is only fair if you also increase the step speed so that the angular velocity remains the same in both cases. The speeds used here also seem very low compared to actual use in a 3d printer. Not that I in any way want to downsize the improvements brought by the TMC drivers, but you should compare things in configurations that give the same end-result, in this case angular velocity and also a load to apply comparable torque would improve the comparison.
Hello, You mentioned in the video that the greater the step division, the greater the torque. As far as I know, the opposite is true. You get maximum motor torque with full steps, since the magnets face each other over the entire magnetization surface. The more you divide the steps, the more you weaken the contact surface, which gives less force. Can anyone confirm this statement? Sincerely
The TMC Drivers help some, but in practice I'be found not as much as I would like, or I should say my family would like. There is still quite a bit of sharp whine when the printer is moving. I think some of it is the belts. I've been trying to conceptualize a different movement system that doesn't use belts and might produce less noise.
On the 4988, I depend on the reset pin to remove the FET driver current from my motor. I hold sleep pin high, and enable low. On the TMC driver, how do I accomplish this? What model of the TMC has the equivalent functionality?
Can the MS1 and MS2 pins be controlled via software or only by connection to GND and 5V? I was working with TMC 2209 and was TOLD that such control was available on it, but later came to understand that on the TMC 2209 the MS1 and MS2 pins are used for setting up some parameter for UART control of the selection of Step type, e.g. Whole Steps, quarter steps, sixteenth steps etc. I really need to be able to control that via software and those pins directly, not through a UART connection.
I can't answer a basic question, in stepper motors nema 17, nema 23 or even maybe nema 34, I could use the RJ45 Network cables to make connectors providing power VCC, STEP, DIR, COILS 1A 1B 2A 2B , for example for 4 wires, but it could be 6 or 8 wires... I like network cables because the wires and connectors are well organized... my big question is whether these cables would support the voltage and current supplied to engines...
Another great video Andrei! The difference in sound level is quite startling. Now I'm wondering what stepper motor driver my prusa mini is using. This was a very educational video. Thank you!
those "closed-loop" stepper boards with the oled screens (at least the two I ordered) DO NOT have the TMC drivers on them like you mention, they all have the old Allegro drivers. I thought the same way you did and bought two of them without doing much research and discovered that they were so much louder than my current drivers, I immediately switched right back, the closed loop control was cool, but honestly didn't make that big of a difference. if you're missing steps, you've got bigger problems than just needing to force it back.
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The sound comparison between full steps and microstepping is only fair if you also increase the step speed so that the angular velocity remains the same in both cases. The speeds used here also seem very low compared to actual use in a 3d printer. Not that I in any way want to downsize the improvements brought by the TMC drivers, but you should compare things in configurations that give the same end-result, in this case angular velocity and also a load to apply comparable torque would improve the comparison.
Thanks for such amazing tutorial. I was thinking to buy this TMC driver but was in confusion. Your tutorial gave me perfect reason to buy this driver.
Very useful, as always!
Very good explanation, Thanks a lot!
Very informative; Muchas Gracias!
I've got both drivers and my brand new Zoyi ZT-702S. I'll have to check this out! Thank you
That was great, thank you!
Hello, You mentioned in the video that the greater the step division, the greater the torque. As far as I know, the opposite is true. You get maximum motor torque with full steps, since the magnets face each other over the entire magnetization surface. The more you divide the steps, the more you weaken the contact surface, which gives less force.
Can anyone confirm this statement?
Sincerely
TMC motor drivers really great.
thanks for the tutorial.
is the process of setting the current limit is the same?
The TMC Drivers help some, but in practice I'be found not as much as I would like, or I should say my family would like. There is still quite a bit of sharp whine when the printer is moving. I think some of it is the belts. I've been trying to conceptualize a different movement system that doesn't use belts and might produce less noise.
On the 4988, I depend on the reset pin to remove the FET driver current from my motor. I hold sleep pin high, and enable low. On the TMC driver, how do I accomplish this? What model of the TMC has the equivalent functionality?
Can the MS1 and MS2 pins be controlled via software or only by connection to GND and 5V? I was working with TMC 2209 and was TOLD that such control was available on it, but later came to understand that on the TMC 2209 the MS1 and MS2 pins are used for setting up some parameter for UART control of the selection of Step type, e.g. Whole Steps, quarter steps, sixteenth steps etc. I really need to be able to control that via software and those pins directly, not through a UART connection.
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I can't answer a basic question, in stepper motors nema 17, nema 23 or even maybe nema 34, I could use the RJ45 Network cables to make connectors providing power VCC, STEP, DIR, COILS 1A 1B 2A 2B , for example for 4 wires, but it could be 6 or 8 wires... I like network cables because the wires and connectors are well organized... my big question is whether these cables would support the voltage and current supplied to engines...
Excellent explanation! Is there a big difference between the tmc drivers?
Wow very good sir
Thanks good recap and What about TMC2226.
Excellent content as always .. Thank You for sharing .. Cheers :)
I wonder how the new Ruimeng MS35774 drivers compare to the TMC drivers (as found in new creality printers)
Hi. Did you test it with the MS35774 drivers? Are they any good?
Another great video Andrei! The difference in sound level is quite startling. Now I'm wondering what stepper motor driver my prusa mini is using. This was a very educational video. Thank you!
those "closed-loop" stepper boards with the oled screens (at least the two I ordered) DO NOT have the TMC drivers on them like you mention, they all have the old Allegro drivers. I thought the same way you did and bought two of them without doing much research and discovered that they were so much louder than my current drivers, I immediately switched right back, the closed loop control was cool, but honestly didn't make that big of a difference. if you're missing steps, you've got bigger problems than just needing to force it back.
Ok but what are the differences between all the newer drivers?
did you ever complete that optical encoder tape measure thing?
Are you talking about the filament diameter measurement?
Witam. Jakim programem robisz animacje?
8:20 pure sine?
might be ysing the 256x step interpolation
sound comparison shall be done at the same speed but you don't
I have learned the 988s will fry your Arduino if a malfunction occurs while powered up.
Thanks for making this video to show the technology. I also like to know how to to make my Nema 23 silent. Is it possible？thanks .❤
Bro crea un tutoríal de como mover un stepper motor desde una pagina web con el esp32 y que se pueda mover por hora , seria de gran ayuda
Hola. Para que lo usarías? Para entender como enfocarlo
@@ELECTRONOOBS lo usare para controlar el abrir y cerrar de unas cortinas por medio de la hora por ejemplo a tal hora quiero abrir las cortinas y cerrarlas automático a tal hora,también tener la posibilidad de configurarlo por medio de la pagina web , no tengo tanta experiencia con los micros esp32.
what ever happend to the rc spitifre?
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The most important thing, the main chip is still Trinamic
Last time I was looking I think I found a TSMC driver with a 48v rating
Plz make a video on DIY AM transmitter and receiver 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏.
I can't find any proper information over internet so you are my last option if you do same i will be very pleased..
With the silent controller, the motors heats up so much as compared to with more sound one, please verify this.
Oh, I forgot to make that test...
Make a short with that test also?
The speed on tmc2208 seems to be slowing down
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You go through all the trouble, then don't analyze what aspect of the current waveform makes it silent.