'09 Subaru Forester - Both Front CV Axles
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- In this video I swap out the creaking, snapping and crunching CV axles on the front of a customers 2009 Subaru Forester with over 300k on the odometer!
-Enjoy!
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The curly cue method is a good one. I prefer to tie the ends like shoe laces. It takes a lot of time, but I feel it’s worth the effort.
I just leave them straight and let God decide
Bah! If you don't tie it like a bowtie you aint trying hard enough. 😊
@@stevewhite3424 Bowtie is the same as shoe, the more you know
@@ajfurnari2448 I prefer a half Windsor. It helps against the vast rust and freezing temps we get here in So. Florida.
Solder it, cover that with weld, then encase it in concrete. Grind it, paint it. Done.
Nobody I mean nobody has the excellent camera work like Eric does!!!!. We should all appreciate the extra time it takes him to do it .
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Eric O. is a much better mechanic and way more entertaining but Rainman Ray does have some pretty good skills as far as getting the camera and the lights up in there.
@@daveclark8337Ray is Ray not knocking him but my vehicles are in pristine condition. He is so ramey slamey I'd never let him touch my vehicles.
ya he is showing what NOT TO DO! this way is INCORRECT!
Many years ago I was lucky to have a CV rebuilder just down from me. He'd rebuild our OE axles the same day with OE parts. We never had an issue....... ahhhhh the good old days. We don't use cotter pins anymore. Our policy is we weld the nut to the threads that way we can tell if anyone has messed with our repair for warranty purposes.
I wish. Idk if every car brand is like this, but the aftermarket cv axles for Subarus are garbage, and oem ones are almost $500
For an 09 PRNY dirt road car with 300K+ on the clock that thing is in amazingly good shape, all things considered. You've had newer Chevy trucks on your channel that were more rotted with less miles!
That's what I was thinking. I'm in the same general area and my Subaru never sees a dirt road, and I'm willing to bet our 2013 with 145k on the clock is in worse shape.
Is it possible that the electrons from the first coat of mud/dirt did their corrosion thing and until they ran out of ummph, and then subsequent coats of mud/dirt sealed it thus stopping further decay? 😉
Does the PRNY salt their dirt roads? I live on the other side of the country, the dry side of the PRWS. We can get two ft. or more snow but roads are not salted, they get sand/gravel. We've seen winter months where temps never get above 25F all month. I drive a '92 Ford F250, has a little surface rust underneath, it lives outside. I think the states that use salt get a kickback from auto manufactures and salt providers. Our commie leaders live in the west side, snow is rare, result of the Japanese current we're told. Good thing, we'd be in the same boat as the PRNY.
@mundanestuff wow my 2014 does dirt roads every day. It does not look that bad. But it did eat 3 cvts. It's still yet to hit 100k. Exaust flang rusted through at 49k. It's been a much better car then my Chevy 2016 truck. I had to junk at 88k. Too much frame rot through for state inspection. Truck also had abs issues every 2 years.
@@murphymmcin PA 3 hours south they Calcium Chloride em. I think its worst then salt. At least this summer the cut way way back because of cost. They only add gravel when it snows at intersetions So the grinds the paint off. Plow is set to 3 inches so you get a good rub down. State sprays liquid brine so it eats everything. 30 years they have to rebuild the bridges.
Your narration and comments make these 100 times better.
FYI you forgot the third way of installing COTTER PINS twist ends back around both sides of the nut.
Less cuts to the head when you don't have a lift and are crawling in the dirt when you do the side-bend method.
SPLIT PIN. Cotter pins have tapered shafts.
I just finished at the NASA academy last year and I can verify - Major Tom is still teaching it the same way.
That's quite some technique on the split pins, I always thought that the curlyque method was an Area 51 secret....not anymore! Brilliant vid as ever!
Better than the method I have been seeing as of late. The missing split pin. Guess somebody crawls under cars and steals them at night.
and there you have it folks : doesnt matter how rusty or crappy your POS is Erick O still does a hell of a job!
Thank you for calling things the way you see them. AKA "Cheap parts is Cheap parts"!
This Subaru is a Sole Survivor. Most were Buried 5+ years ago in the New York Salt Belt Cemetery. 🙏
That control arm holder/bender is pretty slick, can't count the number of times I couldn't get great purchase with a pry bar
I made my own after seeing Eric use one a few years ago. What a time saver!
Seen them for sale on Amazon. Astro tools maybe?
SIM TOOLS LCAT6803 is the current version. There are cheaper knockoffs as well as a hook by otc used with a long pry bar.
@@jamesu I have the hook lol, but I need the longer and stronger prybar.
@@scientist100 I have a 50” that won’t fit in the hole on the hook. Ha ha
That back kick to the driver wheel had excellent form. Lol
I had a 2005 Chevy Trailblazer. Now, I lived in SW MO for 2 years of it's life, then we moved just east of St. Louis in the PR of IL. When I got divorced and got the Trailblazer in the divorce, I traded it in on my "new" ride. I traded it in in 2016, with 299k on the engine. Right before I traded it, I checked compression on all cylinders...they were all within spec, and within 3 psi of each other! I did a shortened leakdown test...nope. Those engines were awesome! Replaced the trans at 160k however.
Take care of your stuff, it will take care of you :)
I have to say...Being a shade tree parts changer for many years...I approve of your highly technical cotter pin termination method!
I know what you meant Eric. Used to be a remanufactured part was sometimes better than OEM, as they were updated when they were rebuilt. Those days are long gone. The influx of Chineseium parts changed that dynamic. Best to get OEM nowadays...even if they're $$$.
Wow... A Door's reference! You never know about people until you know.
Glad to see you're feeling better. Your commentary on "solder" vs. "welder" reminds me of the skits by the late great Gallagher...always ending with the sledge-o-matic. Happy New Year.
I’ve got an 09 with 155 on her. Hard day at work and with the gf, seeing this made my day
Dang! That’s 3 videos in a row without ol’ Eric using a “fire wrench!” 🔥 😅
You know it's the original engine and transmission and they just know how to keep oil in it 💪
Installing cotter pins:
Just like when I had an RV repair business. I winterized a lot of travel trailers and mobile homes. I winterized more RVs in one season than anyone would in a lifetime.
And yet people wouldn't hesitate to tell me their winterizing method (as if I were doing it wrong).
I told them that there were many ways to winterize but only one wrong way. If the system froze up and leaked in the spring when the water was turned on for the first time, then that was the wrong way!
Same way with cotter pins. If it fails or falls out, then that was the wrong way to install it!
😂😂
Yup...leave the frozen turds in the holding tank. Call it winterized
I believe the internet just caught on fire due to cotter pin abuse and solder mis pronunciation. Thanks Mr. O for the great start to 24!
My friend (I only have one) had a '99 Forester. It went 440k on the first engine and another 220k on the second before the front end just gave up. Pretty amazing cars. Love your work, Eric.
I had a 98 Outback that hit 330k before an accident. My 11 Outback barely lasted 89k after transmission problems from month one and a blown head gasket made me swear off the brand. Their CEO made a public apology for their bad quality.
They used to be.
Wrecked my '16 foz with 85k and loved her but I didn't necessarily trust her completely either. Cvt was temperamental until I added an extra cooler but still worried anyday for no reason she could go Britney Spears on me.. now I have a '10 foz with 150k and holy smokes the build quality difference is night and day. Not sure if they were all about shaving weight to improve their MPG rating but my '10 is a machine to what a tin can my '16 was.. use to be is a good short answer
@@seanpop2886My dad Subaru was absolute pile of garbage he got rid of it at 100,000 miles It needed thousands of dollars worth of work he was so grateful to get rid of it It was a headache!
I almost fell off my chair when I saw the NASA approved, curly-que method of securing a cotter key. Thanks Eric for brightening up my afternoon.
Love your sense of humor... thanks for the entertainment!!!
I have always pronounced it SOLdering, never SAWdering. I hear a lot that do though. 37 years certified soldering for aerospace manufacturing. I sincerely enjoy watching you work and hearing your banter, excellent. Can go on and on about the english language, crazy crap for sure. Why do we spell phone and not fone! Or phish instead of fish.
Folks, you absolutely must watch this maybe multiple times, Eric has really put out a gem here.
If you want your wheels to fall off, do your cotter pins that way. Well now I guess I'll be rethinking my methods everytime I do one. As always good show, and thanks for making me second guess myself. Lol
Now that I have been shown the correct way to secure a cotter pin I have to go back and change everyone I've put in wrong in the last 37 years. Thanks Eric O! Liked the discussion on reman parts core degradation over time. For as crusty as it was you were able to dance around the potential obstacles without too much hassle. You sound a lot better too. Happy and Healthy 2024 to you and the family!
My uncle inherited my grandmother's 1998 Outback after she'd owned it only two years before passing away in 2000. So, needless to say, it had very low miles.
He would go on driving and maintaining it for the next 20yrs and even replaced the water pump and timing kit 3x and the head gaskets at 215,000mi. Ultimately the car had accumulated 330,000 miles before tragedy hit. He was struck in the front end in a t-bone collision, ripping everything off in front of the wheels by a truck hauling a trailer blowing a stop sign.
The car was totaled, but he gave it to me and I stripped the car completely down. The shell went to scrap while I hoarded it's remains as spares for my wife's 225,000mi 1998 Legacy GT since most parts were the same.
The transmission continues use to this day pushing close to 350,000mi in my 1992 SVX that we'd previously 4.44 swapped with a junkyard donor. It was swapped in with the assumption that the donor was bad, but we later determined the TCU to be at fault. So now I'm sitting on multiple donor parts for two cars. 😂
I like to think a little piece of my grandmother's memory lives on in my dream car. I take some comfort in that.
Starting the new year with a SMA Smackdown .... '24 looking to be a good year
Over 50yrs of pretending to fix cars, an I never used the curly cue method. How many people have died due to lack of knowledge. I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing the right way. Thank you Mr.O for showing me the error in my ways.
Your explanation of avoiding refurbished non-OEM made perfect sense. Hope you and the family had a Merry Christmas and wishing you all a healthy and prosperous 2024 in the PRNY.
I was in the space program but had nothing to do with rockets. Was under the command of commander Cody. Happy New Year!🚀
THANK YOU for highlighting the way "SOLDER" is pronounced here. Very confusing for someone who arrived here years ago from one of the Queen's colonies!
Perfectly executed Curly Que. You NEVER see that done correctly on the internet. Subscribed for life.
A long time ago when I lived in New Mexico
I walked into a auto part store and asked for a cotter key
Dude had no idea, took us little bit to get on the same page
Musta Been by the border towns...😅😅
@@2nickles647 no Albuquerque area
What a beautiful day in Avoca.
It would not be a proper SMA video without Eric trying to trigger the internet! Gotta love it! Thanks Eric.
Love that NASA-style curly cue--from the Apollo 37, of course!
I followed that "reman of the aftermarket" talk! WOW, I am starting to understand you!
I love it when Eric trolls the trolls!
This is how my weekend is going to go, hopefully this smooth. Except I will be rolling around in the rocks…
Of course I understood what you were saying about replacement axles. I'm fluent in Obrachtaese!
The hockey stick has to be one of the greatest tools you use.
Ahhhhhhhh, some witty chit chat from Mr. O combined with some valuable knowledge. The world may be crapping itself into oblivion but I have found some peace and serenity. Thank you Eric.
Glad to see you're better after your last video Eric, great video as always keep up the good work in 2024
Wow Eric O, two pondering questions in the same video. I think the internet just broke. 😂
Love that mule kick. My FIL (who has taught me a LOT about bending wrenches) called to ask if I had any tricks for getting a stuck wheel off. I said to get the heaviest hammer he owns, slide under the car and give the tire (not the wheel) a good whack. He said "I already tried that with my big ball-peen hammer." Trust me, try it with something heavy. "Ok, I have a small sledge hammer, I'll give that a try, hold on." (shuffling noises) (WHACK) "yeah, that worked, thanks!" 😂
I replaced two front cv shafts on a 2013 forester 2 months ago factory parts from dealer only 210.00 each. May cost more in New York I'm in Missouri. The poor women that owned the car had them replaced with aftermarket at another shop which caused a horrible vibration they refused to do anything about it. I told her basically what you said only fix is factory Subaru axles which absolutely fixed it.
Your martial arts skills to remove the rusty wheel is impressive. When you can grab this 10mm socket from my hand, your training will be complete.
Working on B52s and other planes, we were taught in the USAF to use the second method of cotter pin installations. I've been using that ever since 1972 when I left the service and haven't lost a wheel yet.
My team and I had to sign NDAs before we worked on the Mars Rover Projects. One document specifically about cotter pins.
I recall us having to all go to “one day Cotter Pin School “ I am amazed that Eric is sharing this with the world. He could be in a whole heap of trouble!
Good morning Eric and Mrs O. Happy New Year!
April Fools day came really early this year! Hope you and your family have a great 2024!
You and Mrs. O should do a live Q&A. That sounds fun. Make some superchat bucks.
Why is inserting axels so satisfiying
Considering the condition & use, that thing came apart pretty easily. Of course there was a lot of experience at work there! You make it look easy. Probably would have been a two day job in my home shop!
My first car ever was a '91 Subaru legacy station wagon that would eat through CV axles. I probably had to do two a year, and got so good at them I could have one done on the side of the road in about an hour. Took that Subaru from 150k to almost 400k, original engine, 3 clutches in the manual trans. Finally broke a connecting rod and sold it to the junk yard for $200.
Your spot on about the aftermarket axles, I once went through four axles from the usual suspects before I found one that was right. Either too long or too short or the splines were wrong.
Happy 2024, Eric O
Some man for the Crusty Scooby is our Eric!
Cotter pin cracked me up, down here in Virginia they call them Carter keys. Don't ask me why. I moved here from Connecticut about 30 yrs ago and had to learn a whole new language. LOL
Happy New Year to you and Mrs. O and family
Good job, Eric! Happy and Fruitful 2024!!
Shop I worked at last got $17.50/axle of which I got 50%. But the bosses daughter took them to be rebuilt. She would watch them and then tell me what they did. I had to send 2 axles back in 9yrs. So they did a fair job. This takes me way back. HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Thanks for my first enjoyable video of 2024. You do know how to stir them up! As far as the odds of getting OEM from a rebuild shop i agree it is getting worse but that is the way of all cheep parts, the auto parts store recycles the cores they get and we are at a casino betting on part quality. I only drive my daily driver about 8000 miles a year and I’m about 2 hours south west of you so i rust up my brakes in a parking lot . Happy New Year to you and your family!
I like that with Napa, "not a sponsor"!😂 You mention that for a long time, but no one hears that! They are too busy making a profit! I don't know how is in the US, but in Canada, they are very expensive, so I am "not a customer"!🙂
Just love, straight to the point jobs, Thanks
I put new ones on my Gmc 07 they were only about 20 bucks more than remanufactured. Put Autozone wheel bearings on both sides at the same time. One of them went out again at about 30,000 miles was very pissed 😡 I do my own work. Replaced it with oem hoping for better results!
Those are not AutoZone. Those are Chinese bearings. Sez so on the box. Kinda like a Chevy... But made in Mexico..so the truck is basically a Mexicano Truck brand. Made in Mexico parts and assembled in Mexico.
Thank you Eric for the lesson con proper use of cotter pins. I worked on space craft, but machining parts that went to the space telescope, and in contamination control (clean rooms and testing cleanliness on units) for later spacecraft at Kodak and ITT space systems. No assembly done.
Hey Eric, glad you're feeling well again!
The right tools definitely makes most jobs easier. I've swung off scaffold tubes before now, like a chimp wearing overalls, trying to get hub nuts loose, and I've invented some very sketchy devices to pull lower control arms down!
I have a 2015 Outback (BSACC5) and have 202,000 miles on it. (90% highway been to all corners of America!) I replaced my Axles with the Import Direct axles and got a little torque vibration you speak of, but at higher speeds around 75-80mph light accel and light decel, but doesn't shake my wheel, but feel a shake through the body, and a slight click from reverse to drive from a stop. If my driver side axle wasn't clicking when turning, id be fine, but I had to go and replace both and now have issues..... Subarus.... Expensive to maintain time to time, but a solid car for the long run!!! I need 300,000!! Happy 2024 to you Eric and the family from TX, coming from an east side Upstate NYer!!
Glad to see you feeling better and back at it
Hey Eric love the mule kick removal on the left front wheel LOL😂🇨🇦
Well now ya do one of these!!! I had the shop do mine a month ago. If I woulda had your video I might have got it done myself. I am only at 230,000 KM on my 13 Forester here in Nova Scotia so good to know that I got.a few more miles to go in the ole SooB
Eric - those Subarus are so easy to work on ! You should be happy you’re not changing a timing chain in a 3.6 Cadillac
You sir are a Subaru enabler....
Great video to kick off a new year! Entertaining and educational as always!
Personally, I buy the extra long ones, chuck the ends up in the drill and braid 'em. Works like a charm.
I've come to love my 2009 forester with 330k on it now. Haven't done front axles, one front inner boot it split, it'll need a set sooner than later. Amazing vehicle though.
Eric. Is see you are the Class of 75 Astrophysics and Astronautical Engineering Class. Top. Of the class i hear. With Honours too. 😊😊
i did this same repair on my 08 Outback over the summer along with control arms and ball joints. i broke my Astro ball joint puller!
Thanks now I know why I have vibrating after replacing mine
Split pin the second way and it can be reused. It is not always a ball joint you use it on, you don't always have another, some people use nails or nothing at all. However, those sharp ends can gash the skin. And those little bits cut off make a mess and fly everywhere. And actually, as a wind up, a decent bit of galvanised fencing wire is way better than a cheap split pin (how do I know you ask).
Glad to see the "Curly Q" method is still being used outside of my top-secret, intra-galactic underwater training received in the aforementioned Apollo program. 😎👍
Back in the eighties, I was trained to fold the cotter pin legs around the nut, ensuring no stabby ends were protruding.
I have a 2014 dirt road subaru 79k, it's on its 3rd cvt from subaru.... no outher issues.... just rusty spots from North East PA whinters in Pike county. It groves now when you hit the moon cratersvon the dirt roads.
your inside tire kick gives away your ninja cage fighting skills. Thank you for being you. I find great knowledge and some sort of mental relaxation therapy while being thoroughly entertained by your dulcet tones. Best wishes for '24
A nice simple, easy job to start off for SMA! Erid O makes quick work of those nasty axles!
10:30 Totally using the curly-Q and alternate curly-Q method from now on.
Good to see you feeling good enough to make a video and ponder our odd english language. Maybe it's the dayquil or the sudafed, either way, thanks.
Such flexibility and grace for a "mule kick". Maybe call it the "Avoca pirouette".
we have both worked on space ships in the same program. I was a little before you though on Mercury 51.. we used the same curly que method on our cotter pins. good demo for the uninitiated space cadets.
I wire brush and lube the inner wheel where it goes on car so they dont stick on there like that good job mr O!
It’s nice to see a master at work ! Love watching your videos as I live in the rust belt of Wisconsin.
You make it all look so easy but when you’ve done it a few times it’s not so bad, for you that is.
I enjoy watching these videos. Takes me back to when I was working in a similar garage full time. I wish I could find someone here in Ohio to fluid film my truck. 09 Silverado 308000 miles. 1 trans rebuild and original DOD engine with the AFM turned off.
I like reading this. I have an 08 that I turned the AFM off at 70k miles. Its got 105k now. I'll be shooting for 300 on it too. No rust up here in Pacific Northwest
The Astro tools make this job fairly easy and the ball joint puller when needed just works so good.
Glad to see you are feeling better today
Ah, the metrics of re-manufacturing these days! Garbage in cores for the re-man and guaranteed to be garbage when they go out! Thank you Eric, for the tutorial on re-man CV's! 😁