Polishing Rocks with hand held Polisher/Sander - Part 2, a more detailed look
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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In this video, (duration 24 mins), I take a more detailed look at each step during the polishing of rocks using hand held power tools. Feedback I received from my first polishing rocks video indicated I needed to explain more detail for each of the steps.
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I really enjoyed watching this process and it just goes to show what can be accomplished with low cost solutions. Your finished pieces looked great! Loved seeing all the plants on your property as well. Thanks for posting this.
glad you liked it robert, thanks for comment 👍
Hi Kiven, I'm a coin collector and stone/rock on the side. It's fun and fascinating to admire the beauties of them. I have stone from Ireland, Guam , Japan and USA the most. The hobby is rewarding. Keep up your passion. Thumbs up.
thanks for watching this one Delsa, nice to hear you collect rocks alongside you coins, youtube can be a handy tool for us collectors,
cheers, kev
One of your other viewers asked about polishing petrified wood and I second that question. Great video and thank you for sharing mate!
hi John Schoenfeld ,
thanks for watching video, and thanks also for comment. (Most of the time) there isnt really any discernable difference between shaping and polishing minerals or petrified wood, the main thing is to enjoy doing it, (even your mistakes !)
cheers, kev
Hard work . I admire your passion for rocks The finish product is beautiful. Thank you for the video.
hi delsa, thanks for watching video, glad you liked it. I am still a learner, its good for me to make the video, it helps me get better,
cheers, kev
Very useful information and your demonstration was great. Thanks. I am just starting my first day as a rock cutter. Now I see what other tools I can use. I also ordered a rock tumbler for the beach stones I find on my walks.
hi James Mann ,
thanks for watching, I havent tried tumbling yet, but am certainly interested in trying it one day. Good luck with other techniques and skills, its a great hobby, very rewarding,
cheers, kev
Loved watching the whole process. Was hoping I would be able to do this but just watching made my neuropathy in my fingers start acting numb and dumb.
Guess I better stick to smaller rocks and a tumbler 😣.
Really enjoyed this video.
U do it Yahway I do it Mahway
yes, i must learn tumbling as well, it looks fascinating,
kev
amazing tutoring with a good sign on the shed. I BELIEVE I'LL HAVE ANOTHER BEER, good on ya mate
glad you liked the video david, thanks, kev
Thanks for sharing since my yard is full of such pieces. My cabin was built in 1948 along Thomas mountain and the previous owner hunted and collected great pieces before fences existed.
that comment is stirring, it makes me imagine your property, where is thomas mountain located ? cheers for watching, kev
@@kevinnix6531 Mountain Center ca. Thomas mountain is next to Lake Hemet and gorgeous!
Good job. Congrats!
@@Thracium
thankyou, appreciate comment 👍
Awesome, thank you. Maybe next time somehow lower the sound of the power tools... I liked seeing each step played throughout though. In real time. Good work man
Beautiful ! Thanks . I love your garden and your rock . Queensland is a dream.....!!! Hi from Italy🙋👍👍👍
Dolores Barlocco
hello back !
thanks for watching,
kev
Nice way to get the job done quickly and easily with common tools.
and also good for polishing domed or uneven surfaces
Thank you for your comment. By the way this piece of rough diamonds if you want it I do not mind
Perfect for doing a matching set of bookends. Start with a heavy, good looking rock approx. 10" High, x 9" Deep, x 4" Wide. Cut the rock in half and polish the two exposed . sides. Those will go against the books. Cut a couple inches off the bottom of the two halves and polish so your bookends will now be about 8" high. Enjoy your hand made bookends that should take no more than 30 minutes to complete.
Rick Crouch
yes, i agree rick, the beauty is the simplicity, with minimal equipment the rock can be polished up and looking great. Thanks for comment,
cheers, kev
You are an amazing teacher. Thank you so much!
Southern Ontario Sasquatch
glad you liked video, cheers, kev
When you do more then one part please link in description
What grit did you use on the first diamond abrasive disc with the grinder?
hi lorraine, i allways start with 50 grit, (or the lowest grit in your set), it also takes the most work of all the grit sizes, no scratches should be left after the lowest disc is used,
(the rest of the discs are just for polishing the shine), kev
I'm a very Protection First person. What kindof gloves are you using? Would you recommend the bet safety gloves? I amalso a painter and could really stand to keep my fingers. ;-D
Suenette Edwards , thanks for watching video, i use thick leather gloves. But if you have any doubts whatsoever regarding safety, there are various other methods used for polishing rocks. There are a lot of videos available on youtube to give ideas, cheers, kev
Do you use anything on the table bench buffing pad
hi ty, I dont use anything on the bench grinder buffing pad, but you can use a metal polishing compound if you wish, (these compounds come in different colours/strengths, beware the colour doesnt lodge on the rocks cracks or cavities), kev
So glad I came across this video very well explained. I have so many raw pieces cant wait to get started! Thank you
thanks for watching and commenting, hopefully has inspired you, very satisfying hobby,
kev
What type and size blade do you use with your saw, please?
on my angle grinder i use 4”/100mm dry diamond blade.
on my wetsaw i prefer to use 9”/225mm wet diamond blade
Thank you for your video and great explanations.
thanks shirine
This is a fantastic video/tutorial :) Thank you for sharing your knowledge! I was wondering if you think I could produce a similar finish on pieces of petrified wood that are similar in size to the rocks you polished in this video, using a dremel tool? I hope to hear from you... Thank you for your time in advance!
Kind Regards,
Krystal Skye
Krystal Skye Brisson ,
hi krystal, allthough i havent tried it, i would imagine the very basic steps are similar.
keeping in mind the dremel has small attachments, so dont overeach, keep the pieces of petrified wood small.
- decide what attachments you are going to use on the dremel. eg: sandpaper, or diamond abrasives, or other. (just make sure you have a set of them that start at a coarse grit, and gradually reach a fine grit.)
- the most work is allways with the coarse grit, make sure you get as many scratches out as you can. (you may not get the very deepest ones out, but try, and leave them if you have to)
- when you reach your finest grit, if your not satisfied with the shine, or glow, you can use a cream polish to enhance the final finish.
you can choose from two types ...
1. cream metal polish (buy from auto shop)
2. cream wax polish
just follow instructions on products
hope this helps, thanks for watching video,
cheers, kev
Yes dremels work very well
Definitely caught my attention.
its not the only polishing method around, but it is an option
Would like to talk to you 1 on 1.
Wonderful. Thanks for this.
Battlematt Stone
hi battlemat, thanks for watching video, hope you can get some tips,
cheers, kev
Beautiful. I wish I could do this! Can you do this with all rocks or just certain types?
hi melissa, its a case of trying out different rocks, some types are softer and easier to get the scratches out of, and polish.
Others can be very hard, and take a lot more work to get good results. As you do morr and more, you get to learn which ones are best.
Mate im impressed why so many disliked i dont know.. tganl you very much for sharing
Alisha Shalders , thanks for kind comment, I dont mind some criticism, can sometimes be benificial. Trying to bring an economical entry into polishing for those not ready to commit to more traditional polishing equipment, which can cost many hundreds, even thousands of dollars.
Thanks for watching video !
cheers, kev
An it's perfect maybe even a pro couldn't tell the diff with that little stand in an up market store... I wonder how many hundreds with som fancy names u could sell it for the. Buy yr equipment, an then realise, yr hands on method u liked better.... I'm being silly now....
so its enough if i keep the stone wet.i dont need to buy an expensive polisher with watter?
hi 7, as you may know, rocks have different hardness, some are really hard and can only be poilished with assistance from polisher or similar equipment. Softer rocks can be polished using wet and dry sandpaper (by hand), using soapy water, work your way through all the grits, from rough, thru to fine grit smooth. It gives you reasonable finish,
kev
@@kevinnix6531 yes i remember when i was younger i was working in a firm where they carve toombtones and i had to use 7 different diamond grits. i just recentlly become a fan of gem hunting. i live above a silwer mine in a small town of slovenija started colecting jasper quartz and cinobarite we have that in abundance here. and things went so far now i want to make my pendants and mybe sell them and im just thinking do i buy a thumbller or i can do it manually i guess boot things needed for different stylle of work or as you said hardnes of material. Bt considering the prices i think is better if i buy small crystalls and work on them. and than as a hobby polish the ones i find and keep them for mysellf.will see its on im addicted i just wish i found this earlier in my life bt as they say newer to late for new things. Time to go rockhounding and watch wideos by night. tx
hi 7 lateralusaint ,
sometimes its good to visit a local lapidary club, (if possible), you can get ideas of which way you wish to go ahead in this hobby, there are so many different choices and methods,
kev
@@kevinnix6531 yes thank you . i just aplied for the onlly lapidary club i found in Slovenia. After i figured out what it means). thank you for this. they have meetings diggings gemshows and u can also learn about cuting and polishing. so thanx very much. i wish i suceed so this can be my main income.
Love the sign on your shed 👍👍😂🏴
Tinkerbell Blue
yes, i often buy them signs when one catches my eye, getting a bit of a collection on the shed door now !
thanks for watching video,
kev
lol
I loves the informative video! I really appreciate it since I’m just starting to polish up my own stone findings and need a little guidance in the right direction. I was wondering what the name of this stone you were polishing up in this video? Thanks.
hi ebony, it was just a beach rock, probably chalcedony, coloured with some other minerals, thanks for comment, kev
Thanks for the great video. A lot of great information! John
John Kiryanoff , thanks john, your video on the river journey was equally entertaining, the soundtrack carried the atmosphere, i’m guessing you own a drone ! I recently purchased a mid level drone, but i am still mastering the skills, thanks mate,
kev
Is your saw homemade and if so, make another, make a video how-to and then sell it to me.
I really like that setup!
hi No One ,
thanks for watching video, and comment.
I purchased the saw second hand, it is a tilers and stoneworkers ‘wetsaw’. I just changed the blade from a thick tilers blade to a very thin lapidary blade. It is a great saw, has served me well, some people dont like it, but it gives me complete freedom when cutting,
cheers, kev
What type of polish do you use on the buffing wheel,if any ?
hi dan , I dont use any polish or wax, I like just the friction of the wheel to do the job.
In saying that, since I made the last video, I have discovered that 4”/100mm felt wheels fit on to my sanders spindle (via angle grinder nuts), I run these at minimal speed, barely wet, with Tin Oxide powder applied. This gives a mirror finish, to top of your polishing processes.
cheers, kev
Love the finish!
hi Brunilda , thanks for watching and commenting, kev
What is the name of the disc you used on the bench grinder?
DocGriffon , first a concrete grindind wheel (very rough), then a PVA wheel (abrasive suspended in plastic, softer), thanks for watching
Excellent video beautiful rock
hi Travs Guide ,
thanks for watching and commenting !
there aren’t many rocks that dont look good cut in half and polished, the one in the video was just a rock found at the beach by one of our facebook group members, it really suprises you how nice they come up,
cheers, kev
nice, thanks for sharing 🙂
thanks kev
Could you please tell me what size the diamond polishing pads are. Thanks for the video, very helpful.
4 or 5inch I mean
Top!
Parabéns amigo!
Que gema é essa?
hi Marcelo, thanks for watching video, sorry I cant answer your question, my only language is english,
cheers, kev
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I like this because of the Name, Thanks
Bill Mackay
Love, love, love this sonh.just heard last night 11.30.17, I about died.
Great song, great story..
great name bill ! thanks for watching
Amazing beautifull
thanks for comment pengintai
great greetings from bijih alam
Very nice you technicals
thanks ubaid
Doesn't the rock and the grinder need to be wet so you dont die from silicosis??
yes, everything is kept wet to reduce any dust, or, masks are worn if a dry process is required,
thanks for comment, kev
tats are very nice dude,from Houston,Texas,oh and thanks for the info
Kendra Taylor , thanks for watching kendra, cheers !
Only some rock because some is to brittle and will shattered
The noise is a turn off 😢 sorry
first tool shown.....not hand held
good one nichole 👍
Perhaps that's why he didn't name the video "SAWING ROCKS IN HALF with hand held power tools"... Thanks for all the tips, Kevin! I've been trying to figure out how to afford this hobby!!!
50, 100, 400, 200, ?
not sure what you mean
😘😘😘😍😍😍😍Nice
❤️❤️❤️💎😌🇻🇳
thanks TRP !
Not exactly "Hand Held" power tools.
hi Dave , yes, i struggled deciding on a title for this method, do you have any suggestions for titles of follow-up videos ?
kev
Okay. "Polishing with power tools" "Turning rocks into masterpieces" "Jewels from Quartz" "Ordinary rocks have a heart" "Risking serious injury for rock art" "Power tools create brilliance!" "From rubble to riches" "Polishing Perfection"
Is that what ya mean?
Dave
hi Dave ,
yes ! that will do it, good on you dave 👍
all is great except ur gloves < they can harm you pls set the subject to research due to how dangerous it can be
Thank you!
pads are soft, can hardly hurt you, gloves are dangerous as they can catch on the pads
@@kevinnix6531 it's great to tell that you on it and now i can feel better trust me i got worried so much when i saw you put these gloves on by the way youre doing amazing works here Sir! best wishes!
Testing one two three testing one two three
I simply don't like noisy tools....drives me crazy!!!!!!
consider polishing by hand, its a simple easy process, using multiple grit sizes of ‘wet n dry’ sandpaper, gives a relatively nice finish
Nice mookite
That is a fossilized flesh, turn into a stone.
hi chris, yes, i see what you mean, the colour is strange, kev
If you only knew what you were handling Look into Mud fossels,and as they say the rocks were once alive.Hope you wake up.
hi Joe Kennedy , thanks for comment. We have a lot of fossils in our region of Mackay, Queensland, Australia. Mostly marine invertebraetes, (a lot found in a Mudstone matrix), and Plants from Permian and Triassic periods.
But this rock is from our other dominant geology, the Volcanic turmoill of our coastline spans all periods. This little rock is a chalcedony mix from this activity,
cheers, kev
يارجل هذا الحجر كنز من الكنوز لانى اعتقد انه يحمل اسم الحبيب المحبوب سيدنا محمد صل الله عليه وسلم بالغة العربية
هذا والله اعلى واعلم
no safety at all in anything, that is why you have many scarfs in your hands
Você enrolando pra prolonga vídeo, e fala muito 😤😠
Adirson Teixeira , thanks for watching all the same, you should turn the sound down 🤣
thank you so much..... I want your E-Mail please 😊😊
thanks for watching, kevinnix60@gmail.com
or join facebook group "mackay fossils and rocks" for more information
I have lots of stone...
I've got way cooler rocks than that
Cool
Good to know
I wish was this guy's son
Thanks. Do you know how can I polish a herkimer diamond? There are rough parts on it. I dont know if dremmel is ok. Good day.
there are methods for polishing rough surfaces, I dont use a dremel much, but i’m sure that would be the best way, maybe a youtube search for videos on the subject could help,
kev
Great video, thank you.
thankyou 👍
I don't understand why people can't leave you alone, if want to damage your hearing, so what, and, if you are my age, that ship has sailed, because we didn't have, ppe or all these babies whining about, your eyes, your ears, your lungs, your skin, and ect.
hi sandra, i use the basic PPE, safer that way, but your right, in your own back yard its your choice.
Its funny that when you were talking about the grits of dimond pads you said you woukd change grits and move the 100 to just after the 50 grit but then when cou ting up you went from 100 to 400 to 200 to 800, I am sure its not because 200 is more then 400 lol
The Last Marble
yes, thanks, i have noticed that mistake,
kev
Nice collection. Powerful grinder, a bit too heavy.
I wonder, I have watched so so so MANY videos,
how comes that so many guys have Tattoos ?
I am 70 now, but nothing on my body, guess
younger folks must have liked it back then.
Great video and explanation
👍
if you follow through my videos to the more recent ones, you will see i now use the battery rechargeable model, only half the weight and size, kev
Clamp the grinder to the bench. Use 2 hands to contol the stone.
hi mike, thanks for comment, clamping the grinder might suit certain work, but I need the flexibility and accuracy of freehand. Clamping also prevents me from working on very large pieces such as petrified wood logs weighing 10+ kilograms. The new sander/polishers are battery rechargeable now and only half the weight and very flexible in what work can be done with them, kev
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So I have a dremel and tons of different petrified wood and jasper, different kinds of quartz and so on.... trying to figure out the best way to polish it using a dremel. I have diamond bits for carving but am having difficulty finding something to smooth and make em shiny
hi benjamin, i’m not real familiar with dremel work, the only thing you might try is the sandpaper discs that fit the dremel, you would have to start with the coarse grits and work thru to the finer grits.
The coarse and medium grits could be a dry sandpaper, but i would suggest ‘wet n dry’ sandpaper (used wet) for the fine grits.
A felt disc on the dremel could be tried for the final polish,
kev
hi benjamin, I’m in the exact same position right now. just got my first dremel machine to pretty up some of my quartz and jasper found in the hills. the process i’ve been doing is first grinding down the rough edges and going over with a few different grits of sand paper then finishing off with a polishing wheel. they have came up looking real nice and shiny, but nothing really compared to the work in this video, I would love to reach this stage of rock work one day.
ebony pollard hi ebony, try to find the wet and dry sandpaper, usually dark grey coloured, wet the rock with soapy water when using it. Sometimes the lack of shine is due to not using the coarse grits enough,
after using coarse grits the rock wont be shiny, but will be very smooth, like a “soapy” texture, only then should you move on to higher grits.
Wet and dry sandpaper should be available right through as high as 1200 grit, which should provide a great shine
kev
Kevin Nix will that work on rocks such as petrified wood that have a high quartz content and what I remember to be an 8 on the hardness scale? I have a diamond grinding attqchments etc but will sandpaper really work? Do you get the kind for metal or the kind for wood?
Benjamin Goulet
as i said in my reply, use wet and dry sandpaper, i’m not sure what material its rated for. I also stated i’m not familiar with dremel work, but i have used wet n’dry paper on agates using hands only, no machinery,
I wont repeat myself for other points, please just read replies above,
cheers, kev
It no seacet you just of to do you home work the people of indiA and other cultures have been polishing stone loong before we discover stone we use alot of sand polishing but stone rubbing stone can give good finish
interesting comment trevor, stone rubbing stone would be good to learn
Hello Kevin. One question - did you change the speed of grinder as you went from 50 to 10000?
hi jaikram ,
no, no need to adjust speed, just stay a little bit higher than the lowest speed all through the process, its just a mix of the slow speed and pressure that polishes the rock,
kev
@@kevinnix6531 Thanks, great learning video, stay happy.
Very nice, thanks so much for the information.
You've got a lovely place there, dreamy set up.
Why anyone would dislike this video is mind boggling.
thanks for comment alice !
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I couldn’t make out what type of stone it is…. I’m trying to identify one that I have. Please n thanks
hi richard, its just a volcanic mix that has chalcedony, quartz, and other minerals, found on the coastline
Veja minha gema.
Hello. What was the liquid that was poured into the water before polishing?
dish washing detergent, use at same rate as when you wash the dishes
Very Nice Channel!
Alê Garimpo de Pedras Preciosas
thankyou,
kev
You may want to invest in a good vise to hold your rocks. Gonna loose a finger lol.
no, vice is impossible to use for me, and a little dangerous, but i understand some have developed techniques for using them
Do i need a rotary sander, orbital sander, or random orbital sander
I use a normal rotary sander, with 4”/100mm velcro attachment. (the attachment usually comes with the diamond pads kit)
important that attachment fits the thread on the sander (mine is 14mm)
- most diamond pad kits on ebay have either 14mm attachments, or 5/8” attachments
good job
Great video ... thanks! Which bar compound do you use on your buffing wheel?
dont usually use any compounds, I dont like the slight discoloration I was getting,
I dont usually use anything now, just buff item until warm/hot on a stiched sisal wheel.
If the item does need extra I will apply Autosol metal polish to the surface before buffing, it has a very fine grit cutting action, allmost like 20,000 grit,
kev
@@kevinnix6531 Thanks Kevin. That's very helpful!
Nice
chhabra lang
thanks !
kev
turning simple quartz stone splitted on two parts into a something beautiful...
hi johny, yes, its an easy process, and very interesting to do, each rock is different,
cheers, kev
Amazed you still have all of your fingers. Beautiful job you did there!
Brendan Martin
thanks for watching, the pads are soft and dont really hurt my fingers. I suppose you have a point though, gloves can be worn if preferred, waterproof gloves better.
kev
Hi Kev, great video's, I'm new to the hobby just got myself a Rubi Wet Tile Saw. My first rock will be cut at dawn, I have a piece of Blue Quartz to play with. Where did you get the rock display craddle at the end of the video? I would like to get some they look awesome. Cheers Kev
hope your cutting is going well, it’s addictive, be sure to follow through and polish a few up as well ! I got the display stand from ebay, if you search you will find one, (smaller) kev
@@kevinnix6531 Thanks Kev, yes I have just received my polishing pads in the post. Thanks for the reply Kev, and thank you for sharing your video's. Cheers Kev
learned a lot thanks
@@smileysgarage8899
thanks for watching and commenting smiley 👍
Very informative and detailed video. Thank you. I must say, the setting is great. Cool.
glad you enjoyed video SRL, thanks, kev
Use a tin Oxide paste to high shine???
hi kara, yes, tin oxide paste can be used for even higher shine, (not advised to used on rock with cracks or pinholes, its allmost impossible to remove the white paste), but fine on smooth rock surfaces.
I use felt velcro attached pads with the sander/ polisher i use, they buff up the surface well with the tin oxide. An alternate method is to apply the paste to the highest grit diamond pad you have, this works well also.
kev
What if you don't have that machine
hi cj, there are various polishing techniques apart from my method, just search through youtube videos, there are lots if ways,
kev
that looks like rose quartz to me
yes, the iron blushes pinkish, but its a volcanic rock, mainly quartz and chalcedony
Thank you so much for posting these two videos! I ended up getting a sander/polisher and ordering some diamond pads like yours. Now I'm able to cut and polish stones at home for jewellery making!
good one orpheous, hope you find the process as rewarding as I do
@@kevinnix6531 I'm hooked mate! I scored a set of 6 pads to start with and just ordered a set of 18 to keep me going lol. With my little rotary tool flex shaft diamond blade I'm able to cut up some beautiful little slabs and crystal clusters to set in the silver jewellery I make. Thanks again Kevin. Your videos have been a game changer for me!
Great video. Thank you
thanks tara
I have one of those😍😍😍 idk what grit is on it.. and I don't have that lovely velcro.. but I'm gonna give it a try! Thanks for showing me how!
just sayin
thanks for watching !
kev
Can you point me to that ebay listing,i can t seem to find it :(
just use ebay search, diamond polishing pads, 4” 100mm velcro,
it will return many results
Is that mookite on the end of your bench? If so where did you get it? Looks like you mined it.
Girl2skate I’m on the East Coast but I’d love to purchase a nice polish panties from you. I’ve been wanting to get myself a piece of mookite 💜🙏🏾
A lot of work but look nice
thanks for comment, yes a bit of work, and a nice reward,
kev
You are best ticher
thanks for comment 😎
Good video.
thanks gatorcreates !