The Chicago Bulls Nightmare Just Got Worse
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- The Bulls had an embarrassing loss at home to open their season but a bigger problem is below the surface. This is a look at what’s wrong with the Bulls and the drastic moves they need to make.
I'm not a Bulls fan, but I'm rooting for Lonzo. Seems like a good guy that just can't stay in the lineup. Plus Caruso is a monster. They were fun there for a minute.
Haha Lonzo, what a lame 😅
Forget about him. He's done
@@trebledcbut did you see the way he got up out that chair... 😂 mans will take the bulls to a 3peat.
The Ball - Caruso backcourt was perimeter defense GOLD. When paired with the offensive talents of DeRozen and LaVine, it's a good plan. Too bad you really can't do anything when injuries hit.
They would have been a good, consistent playoff team but they aren’t going anywhere with Demar and Lavine as their best players
Dude Cleveland will never give us Allen back for Vooch 💀
Literally in our dreams🤣
Ong 😂
As a Bulls fan, I would do it....
As a Lakers Fan that trade proposal is a HARD no, that Demar trade gives me PTSD of Westbrook. Rui, Christie and 2029 1st is too steep and we must look after our future as well.
As a lakers fan, It's a hard no for me for another reason. I don't want to max out Demar for 4 more years. We need a scoring center badly. AD getting pummeled at the 5.
@@danielwhoI More like Lakers need a strong defensive center that can tank the big boys (Joker, Embiid, and Giannis) while AD plays as the backline roamer ready to go up for the block or rebound.
All those trades were a hard no
As a bull fan but also a Lebron fan (lol) you guys need a vuc, a scoring center
@@hittkid6312Lol Giannis is smaller than AD do you realize that ? Giannis can’t guard Jokic too, just watch their last game in Europe Greece vs Serbia Giannis can’t guard him in the post he is not strong and lenghty enough, the only guys in the league able to slow down the Joker are Embiid or Gobert because they are bigger than him, and maybe Wembanyama with his lenght or in 3-4 years when he’ll be 20pounds heavier and stronger… Jokic is probably the best offensive player ever, at least in the half court he is, the guy is straight up unguardable
It’s crazy how bad they lost the Vucevic trade. Magic got arguably the better center (Wendell Carter) and a rising star in Franz Wagner
Wendell Carter? Best center? No where near.
@@Duda-o5n better than vuc for sure, worst defensive starting center in the league analytically (worse than dwight powell!!!!) and not even elite offensively
@@Duda-o5n Wendell is better buddy he can do everything Vuc can but better defensively but Vuc would be great alongside Mobley bc they makeup for each others weaknesses
@@Duda-o5nPreach!!
@@Duda-o5nbuddy doesn't understand the difference between better and best lmao.
As a bulls we probably will blow it up, we miss Lonzo 😢🥺
Chin up, I feel the next derrick rose is just around the corner in the rebuild
@@Thousandeyes85The next Derrick Rose is in Memphis and currently serving a 25 game suspension
It was a mistake playing with the idea that he could stay healthy in the first place
This is what the bulls get for trading Rose all those years ago.
@@matthewcade4249 thanks Captain Hindsight 🫡
As a Bulls fans, the FO isn't blowing it up sadly. Also, that Lavine trade would be an absolute fleece job on our part. The Heat allegedly didn't offer all that for Dame, but they will for Lavine?
As much as I loved watching the Deballzach, it's way way past time to blow this thing up for a fresh and true rebuild.
Deballzach was so good. Smh
Deballzack?😂
Lavine is at a better bargain than Dame. Also, the Miami Heat could have checked the couch cushions, but still couldn't come up with much more for Dame. They are strapped on picks and loaded with overpaid players.
The Bulls are run by bean counters. That's a known fact. Once that attendance started to drop off, they began making some moves. What I mean by "moves", is that they improve the team just enough so they can start gaining attention again. They double down on marketing, sell this improved squad as some championship contender to a fan base that is stuck in the 90s.
Rinse. Lather. Repeat. They've been doing this since MJ left.
Outside of 2011 (2012 was wasted), I feel like the Bulls are such a mystery on how the front office can't properly function as one to create a true contending team. This team has also been facing injuries that shaped the Bulls why they're suffering it right now.
because most of the fans are addicted to a bad product like a drug addict. i thought adults were more responsible than this. i get it if teenagers are supporting this nonsense but adults need to do better than enable the bulls FO to continue down this path.
Where have you been. Nothing can fix the bulls but GOD. I’m from Chicago I gave up on them after they resigned Vuc ..
Thing is, Ball did make a lot of difference not only for his playmaking but especially brcause of his court vision on offense and especially on defence, his ability to switch and guard almost any position. DeRozan and Lavine are good players who are great only when they function in a system. Vuc is extremely overrated.
Can we talk about Andre Drummond breaking Chet's ankles tho🤣🤣🤣🤣
ONlY fiRsT gAmE
If I'm a Sixers fan, the concern over Embiid's patience is legit. With all the dramas he's been dealing with over the past few years, it's not weird to think that his patience is thinner than before
All boils down on how that Harden trade will evolve
You do have to wonder if Embiid is thinking about Charles Barkley and wasting an entire All-Star career in Philadelphia, then coming away with nothing for it in the end.
Any trade that includes Hachimura in it is not gonna work. He is a perfect fit for the Lakers
Bulls gotta blow it up. They should have last year. Derozan and Lavine are great players but you aren't going anywhere with them as your best players in 2023 in an Eastern Conference that got better. They need to trade the whole roster except for Maybe Ayo and Coby.
I think they will make the play-in. However, I think they are fighting an uphill losing battle. It's probably best they blow it up.
All great trades except the Lavine one heat not giving that much away
Yup, esp. w/ Lavine's injury history...that price is too steep. Derozen would probably love to go to LA though (not an LA fan I just know he's from Cali).
I don't think the Heat really care all that much about a Herro replacement.
@@timmytheinventor4746 as they shouldn’t if anything they should be trying to replace Jimmy who is 34 years old and can’t shoot
@@_Ty6 Jimmy is still a top 25 player in the game though. LaVine is not better than him.
OKC is the process part 2. More possibilities but not as top heavy. The thunder seems like they have to deliberately trade useful players every season in order to not exceed expectations. I love your thoughts on Chicago doing this. I'm a piston fan but for entertainment value, these are the way I hope team decisions would shape the league
Thing is though the bulls have done what we always ask teams to do - try and go all in, even if it doesn’t pay off. So many teams just wait and wait and it never happens… they just tread water for years. At least the bulls pulled the trigger. If Lonzo was healthy it could have looked very different, and nobody can predict that.
The editorializing is on point but these trades are hilarious 😂 who on earth would take Vuc over Jarrett Allen??
Me
Yeah, Vuc has had a super solid career actually. A 20 and 10 guy most seasons.
he’s had a rough start to the season but he’s consistently been a top 10-15 center in the league the last 4 years his double double production is nice and sustainable. he just lacks defensively
Well said, Jerry Reinsdorf is the consistent problem and why they won't do anything until he is gone. Look at the White Sox. They have the same exact problems as the Bulls.
As a Spurs fan I never understood the Bulls trading a first for DeRozan and was thrilled to get one for a guy I just wanted gone. Demar was always amazing the first half of the season in San Antonio but then the second half when good players and teams would start ramping up his game would seriously fall off, so Chicago's season when he got there was no surprise at all to me.
This what happens when you have no patience developing with your players, I'm still looking forward to guys like Bagley and Wiseman to improve lol
As a bulls fan.. I AM DOWN BAD RN! we are so bad.
In regards to the 2020 draft, they got a guy in PW that averaged the same scoring and rebounding for the whole NBA season that he averaged in college. He also started 71 games for them that year and took the least amount of shots of the starters and was 1st or second in steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls. Not bad for a rookie. Halliburton came into that draft out of college with a fractured wrist and this was Coby White's first full season as the starting PG, the guy they had drafted the year before. As always, hindsight is 20/20. I mean, the Pistons took an actual PG in the draft at 7 and got Killian Hayes instead of Halliburton. That dude is averaging 8 pts and 5 assists for his career.
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Ong bro videos are never boring
Whats annoying is on paper they have a great roster, but their most important player, Lonzo, can’t stay healthy. When he’s healthy, that team looks like a very competitive team and exceeds in almost every category.
I appreciate having some sort of coherent explanation for the Bulls' amazing underperformance. I've only watched it from a distance, and it's been puzzling.
As a Celtics fan derozan to sixers or Lakers haunts my current dreams. But Levine has gotten no better and that’s been the real problem.
Been a bulls fan since Rose MVP season and its been miserable ever since. I like all your trades, I just want to win again, loss to OKC made me pissed. Blow it up while everyones value is high
As always, great job! You are comprehensive in your approach. You are able to put together the immediate events with the apparently remote ones. History explains the present situation. Great job.
His trades are 🗑
That Heat trade is atrocious. No way they do something that dumb. Like omfg 4 firsts with Herro and Robinson. WTF, LaVine is a bust half of the time anyway. If he were worth that maybe he could’ve beat Miami last year himself. Horrible idea
6:42 “To win them multiple playoff games” LMFAOOOO Since when does Demar win playoff games
I don't know if Lavine is 4 picks better than Herro tbh. I'd give that up for Lillard in a heart beat but not Lavine. Bulls need a bunch of picks for Lavine to make it worth and I don't think Miami's the team willing to do it.
A.M. my guy, love your videos bro. Informative, entertaining, organized and always on the perfect time. Big Love 🫶🏽✊🏾
I do not think it would take that much to get Lavine. If that deal exists and I’m Chicago I make that trade right now and worry about the other two guys later.
lavine to the heat for that package is crazy
As a Heat fan I totally disagree with you on this and think HERRO is a way better player than Zach plus Herro is younger player and said he is on a revenge tour this season so he’s going to be averaging 30 ppg mark my words
I’m a Heat fan as well but 30 for Herro is 😂 I’ll be happy if he gives us an efficient 20-25. Agreed Lavine isn’t that much better to warrant a trade. If Lavine played defense I would at least consider it.
@@superbiaant Bro Herro is going to average minimum 30 trust
Bro you have the best NBA channel hands down thank you
Not saying they 100% would have pulled the trigger on Tyrese or Franz but a lineup of Tyrese, Franz, Lavine, Lauri, and Carter would be pretty hard to beat right now. Goes to show when fan outrage drives decision making, dumb decisions get made
Things have been looking bad for them for the last like 15 years😂😂
NO! That Demar trade is wack 😭
Surely I absolutely feel bad for Chicago Bulls fans because y’all don’t deserve this and I feel like they’re going to get rid of DeMar DeRozan, Nikola, Vucevic and Lonzo Ball but it’s just so early and already people think that the Bulls are gonna have a bad season again it’s way too early
These trades were sht man 😭
As a Cavs fan there’s no world I want Vuc on my team. Taking JA all day every day
100% agree
Bulls pls rebuild and follow the trade suggestion
I still don't understand how any team looks at Vucevic and thinks "yeah, that's what we need." All you had to do is look at the fact his 20 and 10 basketball in Orlando never got them past 10th place. Why? Because he doesn't protect the rim, nor play tough inside, so it changes the makeup of your defense when you have a soft player at the anchor. Especially if your other two stars are one-sided players who just play defense long enough to get the ball back.
Thanks for all the nba news AM
OKC and Utah are 2 teams that understand how to actually rebuild and manage a team appropriately
“We gonna champs” lolololollol I’m hollin
My Raptors just lost for this so called "most miserable team in the NBA", shit sucks
This team is Lazy, un-committed, un-energetic and cannot play D. The coach is terrible too. This year, Zach is not the same!
instead of rebuilding they went all in on Building around Zach Lavine which was a big mistake. Zach is a good player but not one you build your team around.
Exactly
Lauri Markkanen was the gold nugget. Boylen the clown.
Agree with what your saying, but did you see OKC last night? It was a nightmare. Sure it was against the champs, but common!
Yup, this team seems like they don't like the cut of each others jibs...maybe this is finally the year they blow it up🤞🏿
Honestly as a bulls fan, we haven’t had a true talent since DRose. I won’t count jimmy cause he didn’t develop until he left. We’ve just been awful and hopeless ever since lol
You can include Pat Will in those "players who gotta go" list.
As a Bulls fan, this is painful to watch.
Maximizes Demar’s value but the main asset of the deal is Max Christie?? Even with DLo and Rui + the first, I feel like they would rather trade for a young player to build around rather than possibly whiffing in the draft again
why is my team like this bro 😭
Lonzo ball was the key. He was the pure point guard that made all the pieces work together. Honestly if lonzo ball was back to his old self bulls would be on a similar level to boston. The bulls top 4 guys is literally exactly like the boston top 4
I’m a bulls fan and I wasn’t that delusional 😭 😂
DeMar is maybe favorite player.. or top 3... 5.. current personal favorite
(Alongside Jimmy Butler, Steph, DAaron Fox & Ja... Kyrie also in the mix)
I wouldn't like to see him playing with "mr selfproclaimed" if it goes right, he gets the credit if it goes bad DeMar is the scapegoat like they already painted Russ...
Thanks for this podcast 👍
6:39 DeMar coming through in the playoffs...must be thinking of a different DeMar.
Why would the Bulls do the first trade you suggested with DeRozen. It makes absolutely no sense.
Bulls time now rebuilding mode 😂😅😂😅😅😂
Im still nit forgiving them for getting rid of markkenen
AK traded Markkanen. Stupid fool.
It’s been a miserable couple of seasons being a Bulls fan
No one giving up 4 first round picks for lavine …. This guy trippin’
“Alex Caruso is sneaky-old” 😂
Tyler Herro in your trade projections again LMAAAOOO
Can we have Caruso back now 😢
5:42 fire that editor. Who doesn’t double check the player’s given name. It’s spelled Vucevic.
This is not the first time I noticed he misspelling words. The main job of an editor is to spellcheck
Tonight’s game will be a good test.
nice travel by Shai at the start lol
damn those are some god awful trades
If the Cavs trade Allen for Vucic it would be one of the worse trades possible for them
FUCK NO, NO TRADE DLO. NO TRADEEEEEEEEEEE
I'm a zany Mavs fan, I say we get everybody from the Bulls that helps us get a title this year and/or next year too.
But I'm realist too, so I say getting Alex Caruso and Zack Lavine to help win the chip would be great. A healthy Lonzo Ball would be a steal too. Solid players on defense is what we need.
as a Heat fan we say no.
Thunder gave themselves MAX options for years to come. And a young exciting team with a LEGIT all star.
They did good on bringing in the players they got, the big mistake they made is to get this bomb coach, when you get good talent you can't get any coach, so don't put it all on the players they got now.
How about LaVine for Harden in a 4-team-deal with the Blazers and Clippers?
The ownership have the lowest standards in professional sports. We know they aren’t serious about winning a chip and they’re stuck in quicksand until that changes
I’m sorry but 2015 the bulls were a criminal call by the officials from going to the finals. But 3 officials didn’t see David Blatt calling timeout, when they had none. The technical fouls wouldve sealed the win and put the bulls up 3-1 on Cleve. A cavs team that got blown out by GS. WCJ is mids af
I used to not believe the media's narrative on the Bulls, but this time, it's very evident that they're in big trouble.
>The Bulls new front office makes shortsighted moves!
Recommends the Lakers trade most of their depth for a guy who probably wouldn't resign for a team that is barely good enough to get to the 2nd round of the playoffs
SIT DOWN JERRY‼️
- Pippen (33)
When your franchise player is Lavine sadly your peak will be mid
As a Bulls fans they need to (organization) hire the people in office from the thunder and let go of all the players currently in the roster and let Cody White shine, while getting future draft picks!!!!!
If doing a rebuild, then trade Lavine for Harden who will be one year rental to get Lavine's contract off the books.
Bro get Demar and Steven adams to Dallas maverick with Luka asap so I can see my favorite players be lethal together
All these trades were 🗑️ but tbf its a first
There was no other option for Bulls. Bulls (like Lakers) are proven to be completely unable to evolve young players into real good players. Remember how bad was Wendel and Lauri for them and how they explode when they moved. But their front office and coaching stuffs are just above average all these years
The weight of the whole franchise was too much for Lonzo’s knee.
What wold the mavs trade for Zack Lavigne
I don’t think LA should trade for Derozan, since after LeBron leaves I think they will start a rebuild, whether they like it or not.
Being the middlest team in the league is the worst position to be. Lavine has peaked, you cant depend on derozan, vooch is aging and cant def anything, their young players are average at best, lonzo is injury prone.
Give Lauri Markkanen a call. 😆
Leaning towards them rebuilding but them high ass draft picks suck lol
Honestly vuc has to go, he doesn't even attempt to play defense, and they don't need him on offense. If they just replaced him, they would be better