47:39 “How could a person sit quietly, feel, say and do nothing when Holy Spirit ignited our passion for the Son of God along with the Truth caming into our mind inflaming our heart!?” 50:18 (Pastor Sam Storms shared a testimony of a conviction by God related to 1 Thessalonians 5) 52:20 (on “Traditionalism”)
Just shared on this by telling the church that "we are throwing out the baby with the bath water." Bro. Sam, you just made it even more simplified. We need to REPENT. Thanks for your service of building up the body of Christ 🙏
I'm don't see how any True Gospel teacher or preacher can listen to this and not hear and see the Truth of the Word of God being demonstrated here. He quotes one Bible passage after another after another and gives extremely compelling and profound analyses, explanation and/or interpretations. It appears to me to be irrefutable that a large percentage, if not all of what is being said here, is simply Gospel Truth! Most of the Godly cessationist pastors I listen to tend focus solely on the extremes - the obvious heretics - which Dr. Storms also warns against. That is Not at All what this message is about. Thank you for this Powerful wake-up call.
He did a good job at the Prophecy part, I commend him on that. Do not despise prophecy, we are still to test it but not brush it aside. Great balance. A truth often overlooked unfortunately.
My attempt to ease some tension and reconcile the paradoxical truth that Pastor Storms presented from 0:01-5:03 is this: He is right that the Holy Spirit is sovereign in his works and his grace and power cannot be resisted when he has decreed and intended to move, and it is also true that Christians can quench the Holy Spirit so that he does not work to fill us as pervasively. His wording in saying that "We can make choices that determine whether or to what extent the Spirit will operate powerfully and freely in our midst," is an issue. We SHOULD be grieved when we sin and are not filled with the Holy Spirit and seek him more, but we SHOULD NOT be terrified that we may mess up God's will for our lives and somehow end up not being filled with the Holy Spirit as much as God intends because God WILL accomplish all of his purposes and appointed works in and through us and perfect love casts out all fear. Also, it is by God's grace alone that we do ANY and ALL good works in our lives, so since seeking to yield to and not quench the Spirit is a good work, then it is by God's grace that we yield to Him and he chooses the times and to what extent we prevail in not quenching the Spirit. The means by which we seek to be filled with the Spirit is by our conscious choices, but God is still fully sovereign over those choices so we do not determine or control when and how much we are filled with the Spirit. We are responsible for our participation but not autonomous or decisive in it. So what do we do? We move forward with repentance for the times we have failed to seek God and beg God to help us to apply what he has revealed to us so we will quench his Spirit less and be filled with him more, according to God's perfect will. Also, understand and take comfort in the fact that the Holy Spirit is NEVER so grieved or quenched that he is not powerfully active at all in a Christian's life, yet as you mature as a Christian you become less and less satisfied with having minimal endowments of his manifest presence and power. Take Him seriously but don't be self-absorbed.
we quench the Spirit by doing things that grieve Him, when we sin but God is sovereign, if He needs something done, He WILL do it you can still grieve the Spirit by your free will because all your sin is by your free will
Love Sam Storms - but it is precisely verses like this that absolutely trash the philosophical underpinnings of Calvinism. The message was great - but I think it was great at the expense of, or even in spite of, Calvinist theology, and not because of it.
He angers the cessationists and the Anti Calvinists and the Post mill and pre mill dispensationalists lol why do you trust everything he says about some parts of the Bible but hate the other parts? Prophecy is revealing that which God has said, and Sam is revealing what God has said in His word and you are despising that
"Goddard viewed the Bible as a parable of the human psyche as opposed to a record of historical events. Therefore, Goddard did not believe in an external God who answers prayers, but rather that "You are the creator"... that's heresy, Patrick!
To conjure a prophetic utterance from out of the imagination of ones own heart and then passionately claim a passage from the Bible gives you license is horse crap.
47:39 “How could a person sit quietly, feel, say and do nothing when Holy Spirit ignited our passion for the Son of God along with the Truth caming into our mind inflaming our heart!?”
50:18 (Pastor Sam Storms shared a testimony of a conviction by God related to 1 Thessalonians 5)
52:20 (on “Traditionalism”)
An immensely powerfully message that believers so need to listen to and apply to their lives * churches.
Just shared on this by telling the church that "we are throwing out the baby with the bath water."
Bro. Sam, you just made it even more simplified. We need to REPENT.
Thanks for your service of building up the body of Christ 🙏
This message was beautiful. Made me want to be closer to God.
I need the Holy Spirit right now! Come Ruach Ha Qodesh please I need You!
Enjoying what I have heard from Sam Storms thus far
I'm don't see how any True Gospel teacher or preacher can listen to this and not hear and see the Truth of the Word of God being demonstrated here. He quotes one Bible passage after another after another and gives extremely compelling and profound analyses, explanation and/or interpretations. It appears to me to be irrefutable that a large percentage, if not all of what is being said here, is simply Gospel Truth! Most of the Godly cessationist pastors I listen to tend focus solely on the extremes - the obvious heretics - which Dr. Storms also warns against. That is Not at All what this message is about. Thank you for this Powerful wake-up call.
so you agree with Calvinism too im assuming?
Good stuff. Oh how the church needs Holy Spirit to move us, guide us
AMEN
powerful teaching. Thank you Dr. Storms!
SO SO SO SO SO GOOD.
He did a good job at the Prophecy part, I commend him on that. Do not despise prophecy, we are still to test it but not brush it aside. Great balance. A truth often overlooked unfortunately.
I agree!!!!
Excellent
My attempt to ease some tension and reconcile the paradoxical truth that Pastor Storms presented from 0:01-5:03 is this:
He is right that the Holy Spirit is sovereign in his works and his grace and power cannot be resisted when he has decreed and intended to move, and it is also true that Christians can quench the Holy Spirit so that he does not work to fill us as pervasively. His wording in saying that "We can make choices that determine whether or to what extent the Spirit will operate powerfully and freely in our midst," is an issue. We SHOULD be grieved when we sin and are not filled with the Holy Spirit and seek him more, but we SHOULD NOT be terrified that we may mess up God's will for our lives and somehow end up not being filled with the Holy Spirit as much as God intends because God WILL accomplish all of his purposes and appointed works in and through us and perfect love casts out all fear.
Also, it is by God's grace alone that we do ANY and ALL good works in our lives, so since seeking to yield to and not quench the Spirit is a good work, then it is by God's grace that we yield to Him and he chooses the times and to what extent we prevail in not quenching the Spirit. The means by which we seek to be filled with the Spirit is by our conscious choices, but God is still fully sovereign over those choices so we do not determine or control when and how much we are filled with the Spirit. We are responsible for our participation but not autonomous or decisive in it.
So what do we do? We move forward with repentance for the times we have failed to seek God and beg God to help us to apply what he has revealed to us so we will quench his Spirit less and be filled with him more, according to God's perfect will. Also, understand and take comfort in the fact that the Holy Spirit is NEVER so grieved or quenched that he is not powerfully active at all in a Christian's life, yet as you mature as a Christian you become less and less satisfied with having minimal endowments of his manifest presence and power. Take Him seriously but don't be self-absorbed.
we quench the Spirit by doing things that grieve Him, when we sin
but God is sovereign, if He needs something done, He WILL do it
you can still grieve the Spirit by your free will because all your sin is by your free will
Calvinism
Love Sam Storms - but it is precisely verses like this that absolutely trash the philosophical underpinnings of Calvinism. The message was great - but I think it was great at the expense of, or even in spite of, Calvinist theology, and not because of it.
Nah, great to hear from someone who has a high view of God, and believes in the gifts
He angers the cessationists and the Anti Calvinists and the Post mill and pre mill dispensationalists lol
why do you trust everything he says about some parts of the Bible but hate the other parts? Prophecy is revealing that which God has said, and Sam is revealing what God has said in His word
and you are despising that
you better study Neville Goddard.
"Goddard viewed the Bible as a parable of the human psyche as opposed to a record of historical events. Therefore, Goddard did not believe in an external God who answers prayers, but rather that "You are the creator"... that's heresy, Patrick!
To conjure a prophetic utterance from out of the imagination of ones own heart and then passionately claim a passage from the Bible gives you license is horse crap.