That part about the Mother caught my ear and I believe it can be explained by Jeremiah 31:22. It says a new creation will be a woman who encompasses a man. This is describing the mystical connection Jesus felt with this divine source within his consciousness. He explains it in a few places, like his body being a temple and more directly the comforter that guides into all truth. He often went to solitary places to commune with this mother. On the cross, the moment he cried ‘why have you forsaken me’ was the moment he felt her presence leave, perhaps for the first time in his life. So it’s understandable why he might refer to her as his mother and why he would feel he was the son of god while still believing he was human. Personally speaking, I’ve had these same experiences since early childhood and throughout my entire life and her presence is still with me now in my late 60’s. She guided me through an improbable escape from prison and I was free almost 12 years before I was caught. I’ve had many other experiences and some provable to back it up. So from my perspective, the mother reference makes total sense and I understand Jesus in this light.
How does Ignatious quote Hebrew Gospel? Gives Quotations? Those could be later quotations that Gospel authors use. Ie Gospel of Hebrews may have been written much later using previous Christian quotes
I’m always pleased to listen to scholars who date Luke before (canonical) Matthew. Matthew comes across to me as organized in a way with proto-liturgical redactions, like it would serve the purpose of church leadership emerging in the early 2nd and late 1st century. That said, I think “q” had a lot of “l” material. By contrast James Edwards goes in the opposite direction, saying q is smaller than commonly believed. But then he sees gHebrews as explaining “l.” Huh. I’ll have to chew on this idea some more. Re: woman taken in adultery -> Tbh I wonder if Luke’s story of the sinful was derived from the same story as the adulterous woman. Luke was trying to conflate a story about a pertinent with details from mark’s anointing at Bethany.
Great content, Jacob. It is increasingly clear to me what a mess this text analysis is. Someone among the church fathers called the Gospel of the Hebrews similar to the Gospel of Matthew. That Luke had the Gospel of the Hebrews doesn't make sense to me. I reckon Marcion had it as a ship merchant he had the resources to collect the stuff also, the shipping business was a risky endeavour you must have had the right mindset to do such a thing and luck - like Musk nowadays. And Matthew had the Gospel of the Hebrews, too. Possibly, the Hebrew writer had other texts too. If I think about it. Why didn't the writers themselves not make shit up? Somebody must have had all the ideas, and to put them into a story, why not make the story more interesting by putting more fiction in?
James said that the name "Matthew" was the second or third most common name in the Jewish world. It was not, It was ninth in Palestine and rare outside of Palestine. But my question for James is whether we can determine whether Luke's special source, that gave him his Semitisms, was written or oral.
Edwards:"We have 3 or 4 Matthews mentioned in the New Testament." Very misleading. There are not numerous persons named Matthew in the New Testament referred to in total by name 3 or 4 times, but ONE Matthew mentioned several times. Catholic Encyclopedia: "Matthew is spoken of five times in the New Testament; first in Matthew 9:9, when called by Jesus to follow Him, and then four times in the list of the Apostles, where he is mentioned in the seventh (Luke 6:15, and Mark 3:18), and again in the eighth place (Matthew 10:3, and Acts 1:13)."
Nathanael, Matthias, Mathan = Heli (geneaologies), Elias, Helios, the enllghtened. Zacharias barachai the blessed, the Rich, Felix the lucky, prosperous Amram. Festus the vast /waste feaster.
It is shocking that he said Mathew did not copy from the Hebrew Mathew 5:31. They created a new Mathew gospel, this time addressed to the pagans in good pagan Greek language, to muddy the water, and so it is easy for later people to conflate both. It is amazing that many Christians still deny the existence of other Gospels prior to the canonical ones. The Hebrew writer was the real apostle unlike a fictitious Mathew.
@@James-ll3jb You did not watch the video. The guest said that the hebrew gospel was written by the disciple Mathew, whereas the author of canonical Mathew is unknown. Hebrew Mathew preserves the religion of Jesus:. No deity of Crist, no God died for your sins, no resurrection , no non sense.
I'm just an amateur linguist, but the Hebrew Gospel was translated from Catalan at first. So it sounds like the forced creation of the Septuagint, where the 72 Rabbis only translated the first five books.
The Hebrew Gospels were released by the Vatican within the last 5 yrs. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, James, Jude and Revelation. They have been masterfully translated by a Sephardic Jewish family in Spain. They also have an app Hebrew Gospels in which the corresponding Hebrew is shown.
"The problem with the Shem Tov version is that it was copied by people who denied Yeshua, rejected him as Messiah, and deleted every instance in which the original author himself specifically identified Yeshua as 'the Messiah' "....The reason for this is because "Jesus Christ" fulfilled hundreds of "Prophecies" ONLY in a John MacArthur "Prophecy" Bible. Joshua and Esther are Jewish messiahs. Yahuawishiwashi CHAZERAI not so much. Archaeology evidence of Esther was found, get current.
Lmao, Esther is literally the story of Ishtar told by the judeans. Calm down. Cyrus of Persia was the other messiah. ...but. Iesou was the christ, not the messiah. Not the same thing.
The Hebrew scriptures are lost because the show that the name of the messiah is Yahushua hamashiach and that the name of the father is YaHWeH...research it . salvation depends on it. Shalom. 🔥📜🔥🕎🗡️🏹💪🏽💪🏽👑👑
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That part about the Mother caught my ear and I believe it can be explained by Jeremiah 31:22. It says a new creation will be a woman who encompasses a man. This is describing the mystical connection Jesus felt with this divine source within his consciousness. He explains it in a few places, like his body being a temple and more directly the comforter that guides into all truth. He often went to solitary places to commune with this mother. On the cross, the moment he cried ‘why have you forsaken me’ was the moment he felt her presence leave, perhaps for the first time in his life. So it’s understandable why he might refer to her as his mother and why he would feel he was the son of god while still believing he was human.
Personally speaking, I’ve had these same experiences since early childhood and throughout my entire life and her presence is still with me now in my late 60’s. She guided me through an improbable escape from prison and I was free almost 12 years before I was caught. I’ve had many other experiences and some provable to back it up. So from my perspective, the mother reference makes total sense and I understand Jesus in this light.
Fascinating topic, thank you Jacob!
The Messiah must think highly of James Tabor to have named it Mount Tabor instead of Mount Trebor, huh?
His hypothesis but have luke using matthew, sounds better perhaps.
How does Ignatious quote Hebrew Gospel? Gives Quotations? Those could be later quotations that Gospel authors use. Ie Gospel of Hebrews may have been written much later using previous Christian quotes
I’m always pleased to listen to scholars who date Luke before (canonical) Matthew. Matthew comes across to me as organized in a way with proto-liturgical redactions, like it would serve the purpose of church leadership emerging in the early 2nd and late 1st century.
That said, I think “q” had a lot of “l” material. By contrast James Edwards goes in the opposite direction, saying q is smaller than commonly believed. But then he sees gHebrews as explaining “l.” Huh. I’ll have to chew on this idea some more.
Re: woman taken in adultery -> Tbh I wonder if Luke’s story of the sinful was derived from the same story as the adulterous woman. Luke was trying to conflate a story about a pertinent with details from mark’s anointing at Bethany.
Scholars lost interest in the Gospel according to the Hebrews because there's so little ofvit remaining.
Great content, Jacob. It is increasingly clear to me what a mess this text analysis is. Someone among the church fathers called the Gospel of the Hebrews similar to the Gospel of Matthew. That Luke had the Gospel of the Hebrews doesn't make sense to me. I reckon Marcion had it as a ship merchant he had the resources to collect the stuff also, the shipping business was a risky endeavour you must have had the right mindset to do such a thing and luck - like Musk nowadays. And Matthew had the Gospel of the Hebrews, too. Possibly, the Hebrew writer had other texts too. If I think about it. Why didn't the writers themselves not make shit up? Somebody must have had all the ideas, and to put them into a story, why not make the story more interesting by putting more fiction in?
James said that the name "Matthew" was the second or third most common name in the Jewish world. It was not, It was ninth in Palestine and rare outside of Palestine. But my question for James is whether we can determine whether Luke's special source, that gave him his Semitisms, was written or oral.
From where do you know it was the 9th ?
@@MrOliver1444 From Bauckham's "Jesus and the Eyewitnesses". He used Tal Ilan's "Lexicon of Jewish Names in Late Antiquity", which I have too.
If anyone wants to learn the Hebrew gospels we are an ancient sect of judaism called THE NAZARENES Acts 24:5. feel free to message.
Edwards:"We have 3 or 4 Matthews mentioned in the New Testament."
Very misleading. There are not numerous persons named Matthew in the New Testament referred to in total by name 3 or 4 times, but ONE Matthew mentioned several times.
Catholic Encyclopedia:
"Matthew is spoken of five times in the New Testament; first in Matthew 9:9, when called by Jesus to follow Him, and then four times in the list of the Apostles, where he is mentioned in the seventh (Luke 6:15, and Mark 3:18), and again in the eighth place (Matthew 10:3, and Acts 1:13)."
Nathanael, Matthias, Mathan = Heli (geneaologies), Elias, Helios, the enllghtened.
Zacharias barachai the blessed, the Rich, Felix the lucky, prosperous Amram. Festus the vast /waste feaster.
It is shocking that he said Mathew did not copy from the Hebrew Mathew 5:31. They created a new Mathew gospel, this time addressed to the pagans in good pagan Greek language, to muddy the water, and so it is easy for later people to conflate both. It is amazing that many Christians still deny the existence of other Gospels prior to the canonical ones. The Hebrew writer was the real apostle unlike a fictitious Mathew.
No evidence showing Matthew was fictitious. Try again.
@@James-ll3jb Why not use the true Apostle Gospel?
@@munbruk Define what you mean, please...What is "the true Apostle Gospel"(?)
@@James-ll3jb You did not watch the video. The guest said that the hebrew gospel was written by the disciple Mathew, whereas the author of canonical Mathew is unknown. Hebrew Mathew preserves the religion of Jesus:. No deity of Crist, no God died for your sins, no resurrection , no non sense.
And it was Luke who copied from it not Mathew.
I'm just an amateur linguist, but the Hebrew Gospel was translated from Catalan at first. So it sounds like the forced creation of the Septuagint, where the 72 Rabbis only translated the first five books.
The Hebrew Gospels were released by the Vatican within the last 5 yrs. Matthew, Mark,
Luke, John, James, Jude and Revelation.
They have been masterfully translated by a Sephardic Jewish family in Spain. They also have an app Hebrew Gospels in which the corresponding Hebrew is shown.
Denum eallum weard Elusive, noble (al dunayim) watchers (warden)
cheaster buendum bound ones to the fastness (outer boundary)
cenra ghewylcum diligent, concerned spinners, twisters
eorlum ealuscerwen early, primal serpent scarves (shattered elects)
hebreans overlap with nazoreans
"The problem with the Shem Tov version is that it was copied by people who denied Yeshua, rejected him as Messiah, and deleted every instance in which the original author himself specifically identified Yeshua as 'the Messiah' "....The reason for this is because "Jesus Christ" fulfilled hundreds of "Prophecies" ONLY in a John MacArthur "Prophecy" Bible. Joshua and Esther are Jewish messiahs. Yahuawishiwashi CHAZERAI not so much. Archaeology evidence of Esther was found, get current.
Lmao, Esther is literally the story of Ishtar told by the judeans. Calm down. Cyrus of Persia was the other messiah.
...but. Iesou was the christ, not the messiah. Not the same thing.
The Hebrew scriptures are lost because the show that the name of the messiah is Yahushua hamashiach and that the name of the father is YaHWeH...research it . salvation depends on it. Shalom. 🔥📜🔥🕎🗡️🏹💪🏽💪🏽👑👑
The One Jew God never taught His Chosen People to swim. 10/12 Tribes drowned, the remaining walked on water.
Of course. Of course.