Applying 9k Carry Techniques to 3k Games with a Lane Disadvantage! (Educational Smurf Ep.12)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- BSJ decided to smurf as carry, in the Legend bracket - to show you how to solo carry games using the techniques and skill learnt from his 9k bracket ranked games, but from when you are behind.
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Applying 9k Carry Techniques to 3k Games With a Lane Disadvantage! (Educational Smurf Ep.12)
BSJ wanted a tough game, Enigma heard that and said "Challenge accepted."
i think he knew it was bsj somehow and started trolling him
Enigma: Hold my beer...
Have someone who's actually 3k play the game for you first 7 minutes then swap.
I think his girlfriend is in the 4k range, so that would've been the perfect setup.
@@pascal30161 Very good idea, hope they do this
I mean he played almost like a 2k on purpose dude
I found it fun watching him explicitly say what 3k mistakes are and do them. It's cool to learn what not to do
@Nom This was suggested to him by someone in Twitch chat. But he said its not possible as his girlfriend plays on very different hotkeys.
Im gonna play bad till 7 mins.... 44 lh at 7 min 14 secs... If only I could play that bad.
He's 17/1 at 5mins as Wraith king....and his opponents do a stupid hard camp pull and he just walks up and takes it because they misuse spells and can't take it quickly. I don't know cause I'm 1.3k mmr, but I can easily get 50-70lhs at 10mins as Wraith King he has literally auto-farm technology and fisher price last hit passive lol
@@Taziod yea bro, u can easily get 50-70 lhs cause u against the same 1.3k player. it is harder to get more lhs in the higher bracket as they care on denying more.
@@Taziod So where the video is trying to teach how to apply 9k carry tecnique to a 3k game with a lane disadvantage, whats the point of doing relatively well (44lh at 7min) which most 3k players with a massive lane disadvantage would never hope to achieve at their level?
@@Taziod how are u even 1.3k mmr lol how does people go below 2.5k rank, all u have to do is use 11% of your brain and u can become legend rank.
carry: farm,denie, make farm item, play safer till 20-25min, farm
mid: take runes at min 4, take rune at min 5, rotate, farm
off: get regeneration both mana/hp, spam skills, denie creeps, pull camps, force teleports , create space, open the map more
support: rotate mid at min 4, rotate when ballista comes out, tp mid for bottle refill too, ward deward
hard supp: denie,spam skills, help carry to farm, pull, stack, ward/deward, rotate
if you do the essentials of your roles, there is no way you wont reach legend ranks.
Even the hero picks are not so much important if you do your role, in the end of the day whatever hero you are, you are still just a UNIT on the map with some damage and movement speed , do your math and do what you need to do thats connected with the essentials of the roles.
@@WhitePerson- "denie"
1 vs 2 in lane, tried to throw, and still got more cs than me by 10 minutes lol.
Imagine being enigma player watching this xD and realizing he griefed 9K player.
Haha, it's not even that important that he griefed a 9k players, it's his utter ignorance about his role and how the game should be played. He even wanted to go Radiance, it's ridiculous how bad people get, and this is not even that low of a bracket.
@@revaljq I know. These are the token players😂 He plays only carry or only mid so after he has no tokens he just ruins 10 games straight and play his role after. Just playing like a core on every position and sadly I'm playing with those people. That's just life like bsj mentioned.
@@5t4lk3r00 Wish I could just go about that like he does, instead I would spend half of the game flaming Enigma and probably by doing that I'd be griefing myself and my team in general.
Even in ranked no less haha
Thank god for that Enigma or the smurf wouldn't have been educational. The ranked queue is the best thing to happen to DotA IMO but this is the downside - total dipshits playing roles they can't and don't even try to learn. Fuck those guys.
It's 6 years playing and I'm still Herald...
I know all the mechanics, the Heros and Items; but I make silly mistakes that cost me the game....
But thanks to you, I have been steadily improving....
xdddddddd
been playing since early versions of dota 1. im still low guardian. just play for the love of the game m8
Chat: you can't get MMR as support
BSJ: smurf as support
Chat: you're 9k
BSJ: coaching Eri to do the same
Chat: but you are not really supporting.. you can't do it as carry, you can't farm.
BSJ: smurfs as a carry
Chat: but we can't get that good laning stage
BSJ: throws the whole early game
😂😂
I wonder what's the next excuse gonna be ;)
Nobody says this shit tho
Chat: The enemy team is noob. Bsj lucky got that scrub
Great idea to give yourself a weak start, it really did help emphasize how to play well outside of the laning stage!
At 6:00 Enigma asks "Aren't you BSJ girlfriend". I like to imagine that this enigma player knew what was happening here, and what he did, he did it on purpose for BSJ content.
Little tidbit for bsj at 44:05 : skeletons actually dont block camps, so you can try to make a little efficiency about killing the camp with skellies as the camp is about to respawn, and as the skellies kill the whole camp and move to another place, the camp spawns again and the skellies just kill the camp that they just killed again.
“And that’s the power of wraith king boys and by that I mean feeding” that had me dying
Thanks for uploading! Picked up some basic mistakes I still do.
Learned to respect enemy even in 3k by creep aggro-ing way more, contesting hard camp pulls from the other side of the camp, avoid farming supports by faster and correct rotations.
To be honest I only really play WK because it's strong, personally don't like to play that hero. Because of that it makes it hard to enjoy matches on WK in general or to keep trying in losing matches.
Enigma "I will black hole any heroes except the ones with disables!"
I fucking love this educational Smurf videos, keep them coming please!
This was a life savor bsj thank you. Looooove to see exactly more of these.
saw the first seconds of laning and its already hilarious. i love it :D
20:54 that was the cutest request ever lmao
Babe, BSJ uploaded a new educational smurf
I hit the like button and came to comment right after he said he will try to be as 3k as he can be xD
More educational Smurfs please 🥺
Sir i like ur content , I applied your teachings couple of games and it's a win win!!! Thanks.
Great idea BSJ keep it up very much appreciated
This is like the quintessential 3k game honestly! Everyone thinks they are the carry so there are no supports, no one buys wards or detection, everyone is trying to tell everyone else how to play their hero/role, and then the team that lost flames their pos 1! Good times... Good times...
Next time, let the Enigma get the Radiance Kappa :P Nice video :)
This is wonderful, thanks bsj!
Not much to say but yeah don't mind commenting to boost one of the best ed content on dota out there
his support was actually giving him solo xp for once but he barely noticed because he was trying to be bad
Ah yes, the classic. Man User with Girl picture, the twitch chat flavour
absolutely wonderful content. love the sarcasm
0:26 Lmfao I’m watching this for sure
Well I wish you would play a game where mid is feeding and enemy is going 5 man mid
Great video!
Is that WK skin not available anymore?
Well done BSJ
BSJ looking like a snack with his hair
New haircut looks so fresh dude!
I wouldn't be surprised if Enigma and SF were also smurfs lol
also bsj i dont know if lion is a real counter pick for morph ... when i pick morph against lion, ill get shit on. it would be so nice if you make a video with morphling pos 1 playing against lion. it dosent have to be lion pos 4
enigma aegis omegalul this guy is a legend... or maybe a herald
i really like this kind of tutorial, thank you so much bro, godbless you.
BSJ, how do we enroll in your coaching services?
what do you do when your entire team is people like enigmas, but feed their ass off constantly and rage
He is pretty chill because it's a 3k game.... What if this was a 9k game and enigma yoinked his farm ... He would be yelling and malding...... And that is how we feel cos we are 3k and not 9k
Enigma emotinal damage lol
min 18:10 in the game AA said (min 25:27 in the video) push bottom & marked enigma's ultimate, it made them for thinking about oh man wk is alone all is bottom go kill him and gone, it happened. how wrong lead can destroy your carry !!!!
Next I'll use genial pigs. Proceeds to show a rooster
play a melee midlaner next i main alot of melee midlaners and it seems pretty hard to play vs something like a qop or sf
amazing content bsg
what is this region? I have never seen those teams in 3.5k before. They are crusaders or max mid archons.
Thank you
5:39 You know a fan when the dude knows even BSJ's girlfriend account. lmao
@edit: u cheated bsj, u can't look at the minimap bro. 3k players don't do that.
Very cool vid
Bsj i think you should let your 3k mmr friend play until 10 minute and change to you
what does cs mean?
if my enigma was like that i would tilt so bad
You could have Kali play for the first 8 minutes and then swap with you, that'd be fun
no follow up
-enigma 2021 black hole on tower
That fucking enigma player.... I mean even as a pos 4 or 3 his play was greedy... as a 5 there is NO excuse.
TEAM BAD. MY CARRY USELESS. ME PLAY ENIGMA POS5. NO FOLLOW UP WHEN I BLINK IN SUDDENLY. REPORT WRAITH KING GRIEF ME THATS WHY IM STUCK 3K OOGA BOOGA
I love the "Team no follow up" when he hit no one and gave Rubick blackhole. It's too funny. I literally couldn't stop laughing for like 2 minutes
Dont forget blaming it on SEA server
Imagine that enigma is speed with his smurf content
Would be hella funny
Would have been more fun if underlord was speeed...
Haha... It's quite possible
Dude that would be great but unfortunately they are on different servers
@@namitlodha7249 what server does speeeed plays
when you queue for pos 1 but that one guy in your game queues for pos 0.5
I'm laughing so hard when enigma says "NO follow up"
I don't think you were gimped hard enough in lane, especially considering the other two lanes won; however, in to the midgame I think your team certainly tried their hardest to slow you down and it was very informative watching you adjust and commentate over.
Edit: Watched the video again a few months later and I changed my mind a little; I think this was a good example of a weaker laning stage but the two other lanes doing so well made it seem like you had a decent lane from the opponents perspective anyway. I initially felt you were still strong coming out of the lane but it was because of the opponents being weaker than expected from the other two lanes.
42:00 LMAO also missed that hilarious Enigma Aegis steal into double highground feed AND giving Rubik blackhole. "NO follow up". Whew.
BSJ: *20 min phase boots, bracer, rads and wand - "Our Enigma is kinda grieving us but we're still doing pretty good"
WK carry in my games: *20 min rads brown boot - "Guys I'm really strong, lets fight!"
Also add Armlet for BSJ to the list
6:00 lmao "aren't you bsj girlfriend"
that enigma stole farm and played like dogsh*t. lmao.
enigma should be reported for not playing the role he was assigned to
And a whole bunch of other things as well
The true 3k experience. Unfortunately, the same extends to 4.8K in my experience. The trench never ends...
@@wellendowedplatypus9024 im in 5k eu, experience is not at all like in this video, people are capable to actually rape you in mid game if you make mistakes in first 10 min. This really looks like crusader in eu. You just need to be 10k behaviour, and i never saw divine enigma pos 5 asking for radiance in my bracket. But if you ask me, i would honestly deboost myself to 3k to enjoy dota again.
@@steffkepn2 Despite he plays very well I kinda agree with you most of the games in up legend in EU looks so different than NA
@@steffkepn2 3k is high archon, low legend AFAIK, not crusader
BSJ with 90 health in lane against Underlord and Rubick, thinking like a 3k: I'm sure I'm fiiine.
You didn't have to call me out like like that.
The 3K experience is enbodied in this enigma. When I play carry, what I fear most is this kind of players. Usually it's my offlane griefing me and then suiciding all the time.
I am 2.7K. For this sole reason, I switched from carry to pos3.
This is a great series. I saw myself as a herald watching this and wanting to click on enigmas items so I could be justified in my anger. But then I realized that BSJ never once clicked him to see his items, just assumed it was a 4v5 and moved the map in such a way that they didn’t take 4v5 fights mid. Really great content dude. Keep this series up.. it’s going to make NA Dota better in terms of skill and positivity in region
Yes, really wise of BSJ.
Players like Enigma aren't worth spending the effort to be mad at. Just play around them.
You should party up with a bunch of Guardian Ranks and play vs. Legends. That way you are sure to have a disadvantage
That enigma made me so tilted haha
Whoopsie-doodle missed another cs. Buy regen? That's for nerds
You didn't embody the real 3k player in this match. You should aim for something like
5 per minute with jungling hero is way to much for losing 3k carry
Or 32 ;d
40cs would be a good representation of a losing or lost lane
Let Eri play first 5mins, then swap with him. For the Meme's!
Well it won't matter. Cuz he just go jungle and recover like mason luna
Eri is much better now, he will play more like 5k
thats why i hated legend bracket more than anything - its full of players like this enigma. who grief you all game long, cant play their role for shit, but will scream at you for not having enough farm or something.
I enjoy the content but you barely lost lane, you still had ~80cs by 10 minutes. I know at the highest level not playing optimally for the first 4 minutes can be game deciding, but at lower level this is pretty much fine. I would've hoped you would've lost lane harder, or for like the first 7-10 minutes or just let someone else play for like 5 minutes. Great video none the less, hearing you talk outloud your gameplan is extremely helpful
I mean if we're saying its fine for 3k then he did what he set out to do. But beyond that its a pretty clear indicator that cs is something you should work on if you're average cs matches his "gimping himself" cs
Great educational vid, just wanted to mention the dota wiki says skeletons can't block camps. At 44:23 you pleaded with them not to block your camp. :)
Hahaha I really hope that Enigma watches this and realises what a space cadet he is
I don't understand that enigma afk farms for 30 mins and then can't get off a black hole in team fight
God damn That Enigma taunted me so much even from the Backseat! Prolly a usual carry who forgot to cross out hard-support in the game-queue and told himself "This is right because I am the far better carryplayer"
if hes a bad support, hes a bad carry. Over all hes a worst teammate youll ever have. Cant site even one thing he done good in that game
i can tell he belong to 1k bracket for that blind high ground black hole with no bkb. i don't think it even works against passive AI.
@@user-yy3ki9rl6i probably a 1k player bracket obviously buying an account or made somebody else play for mmr placement
He probaply just wanted to get role queue games, got 5 and thought team's shit coz he isn't carry. Picked Enigma because he has high win rate and can colo farm. Shit mentality from shit player.
finally I found someone on my bracket in one of his game, thanks enigma--
sadly spectre didn't live up to my expectation of an enemy hypercarry while my team griefs.
I havent played ranked since 2017 and stop playing for 2 years thencomeback playing dota at 2020, but i feels like my current pub are better than this ranked. Im in SEA and i was 2.7K
Probably one of BSJ's worse videos. I guess he forgot what 3K is actually like.
I would say the biggest problem in 3K is your team taking stupid fights and repeating the same mistake over and over again.
All his principles still apply and you will eventually climb MMR.
P.S The biggest takeaway from this video is
1. Don't take stupid fights
2. If you are in a stupid fight/out of position leave as fast as possible.
P.S2 His teammates were actually quite decent.(LC and Enigma pickers have low IQ anyway)
I used to play offlane because i had no idea how to carry games but i dont want to play passive support nor mid. Ive been watching your tutorials for the past couple of weeks prolly TI week and I've gathered so much more idea about farming, laning, and carrying games. Now, Ive been spamming 1's and I think it's working well(regardless if I had a bad early game, bad support, bad mid rotations, whatever hero i pick or whatnot) Thanks man
thank you bsj it had some amazing content... im a 3 k and i always blame support when they do some thing wrong. like not pulling/ not hitting their pos 4 or whatever.. this was amazing it rly changed my perspective after i saw that enigma and your reaction about it... so thank you
Have your GF play the first 5 minutes and then you take over next time? :D
BSJ teaches all the time that when your enemy is alive they prevent you from doing what you want to do, and that you should try to do what you want to do when your enemy is dead.
Notice when Enigma is alive, he cannot farm the triangle. When Enigma is dead, not only CAN he farm it now, but he DOES farm it, and he makes sure it gets done in a timely manner. Truly amazing pressure given, and relieved, by this 6th enemy player.
what if u were rlly behind after lane stage. and players like enigma and others would constantly still your farm everywhere u go. what THEN
I’m in 1.5k mmr and the fact this enigma is in 3k absolutely burns
you literally only missed 5 cs in 4 minutes and stopped playing as a 3k after 4 minutes not 7 minutes as you promised.
Honestly never been so impressed with a dota 2 coach ever before . I have been playing dota for almost like 4-5 years and I am stuck at legend . The kind of impact your coaching has on my mind is litreally mind blowing. I am able to understand learn and see the game through a new perspective . Thanks BSJ . Love from india .
so sad that enigma. feeling full of himself trying to carry the game lol
Can you explain why u went armlet, even though u did not mention it earlier??!! I struggle to judge when to go armlet deso/assult, vs when to radiance
My guess is because Enigma was griefing his farm and made it impossible to farm the safe camps. He went for an item that would enable him to go for the more dangerous farm and not be 100 % useless in fights if he gets jumped. Sitting around with 3k gold in the bank going for neutral camps on the enemy's side of the map is kinda throwing. Well that's my guess anyway.
BSJ the enigma SUPPORT 5, farming all the map, is legit the most 3k and below expirience i have seen in your smurf videos LOL, talking by expirience
No man black hole
Enigma : no follow up
Lol that was hilarius
being able to farm deadlane and being able to force rotations to deadlane while taking objectives is what makes WK good.
Finally some new educational smurfing on these newbs lol 😂
That enigma is so typical. Thinks he should be immortal but should be Guardian.
funny how his farm speed just dropped drastically between 10 -16 minutes because of the enigma farming all the camps behind him, while he was pushing out the lane. Actually griefing, I would be so mad lol.
this is stupid BSJ.. dont play like a 3k in the first minute, play like HOW you are suppose to in the lane so all of us can learn and apply it.
Dont mind these cry baby people who says it is unfair for you to play PROPERLY, bc thats how its suppose to be whether you are in herald or immortal bracket.
This is an educational smurf for a reason, for what its worth it'd help us to know how to lane better not see another 7mins of laning that we always do (wrong)
The point of the bad lane is to show what to do when you get a bad lane, it may be obvious for some but not for all so they need a visual demonstration.
He already did that bro. Multiple times. Go watch his other videos. This is a response video to those who cried "BSJ you're crushing the lane and snowballing and using your advantage too hard I can't replicate that". This is a video SPECIFICALLY to show what to do when your lane isn't going great.