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❤❤❤ l guess people will never understand intelligence and progress. Psychiatrists SHOULD be informed about things they would do well to be informed with the real world beyond the trillion dollar fake drug industry. Lauren is fantastic!
Thank you so much for your video. My partner has schizophrenia and watching your videos has helped me better understand her and open my mind to mental health overall.
This doctor has a really good bedside manner. She wasn’t dismissive and was realistic about things. Basically we are all searching for a cure bc we’re in pain and when new therapies like ketamine come out we get really excited about it. Even though ketamine and psychedelics may not be good for people who are prone to psychosis we need to still have faith that new therapies are around the corner and support one another. Thank you for making this community with your UA-cam channel
If I had access to mushrooms I'd like to take them because I'm happier in psychosis. I think it's fun. It gives me purpose as I chase the unreal. I let the outside world direct me because it's like a narrator. It let's me know what I'm feeling. I'm already unable to communicate with people, so the downside to psychosis is minimal. I spend a lot of time terrified, but everything has meaning. I already can't function. I refuse to take antipsychotics for similar reasons. They don't help with my ability to think and don't increase my quality of life at all so refuse them. Hospitals don't care about you or what you want though. And family doesn't even know me. They forced me to take invega sustenna even though I told them I didn't want it
@@Miscelanou So you think that being terrified a lot of the time is outweighed by things having meaning, even if the meaning is incorrect? I don't have schizophrenia, but a close friend does. The times I've seen her psychotic, it looked tremendously stressful, and I can't imagine finding that state preferable to being properly medicated. It may be easier for her to think when she's psychotic, but her thinking is incredibly distorted, and she's a danger to herself. I've seen how bad the side effects were for her, and hope that the medication she's taking now won't have as many side effects as the last one.
@Maria Shaffer-Gordon I'm more of a danger to myself when psychotic because I'm more likely to act out But when I'm medicated all I want is to be able to hurt myself
@@Miscelanou I'm really sorry to hear that you want to hurt yourself when you're medicated. I hope that you have people to support you who would care if you injured yourself or did something worse, and that you find a therapist to help you with these feelings. I know what it feels like to be severely depressed, and to feel that physical pain would be preferable to mental pain. Good luck wrestling with your demons.
It's easy to understand how these drugs help. My schizophrenic symptoms might be a 5 on a normal day and it's disturbing I didn't take anything. Taking a psychedelic the symptoms ramp up to a 10 but knowing I took something gives me power and even some control to guide the symptoms how I want. On days I don't take anything, the 5 really doesn't feel like a 5 anymore after experiencing a 10.
I think the main reason why psychedelics can increase psychosis symptoms has to do with their powerful ability to change people's beliefs in a very fundamental way. This alludes to what Dr. Marks says regarding that it's not just brain chemistry, but how psychedelics are able to act on neural plasticity in how they can radically shift thought patterns. It's what can make psychedelics both so healing in an ideal situation where the set and setting allows for the formation of more positive or healthy beliefs, yet so also so risky in terms of being able to strengthen or reinforce beliefs in a way that can dramatically increase the psychotic symptoms if the manner in which psychedelics change neural plasticity is not carefully modulated in a way that prevents reinforcing psychotic beliefs or perceptions. If psychedelics are to have any potential for schizophrenia, I think a key thing would have to be that there needs to be some sort of objective clinical methodology in regards to controlling set and setting as well as in regards to what the trip sitter could do to shape neural plasiticty changes in a way that would minimize the risk of reinforcing psychotic beliefs or perceptions. There is still ongoing research in this area for depression and anxiety in terms of avoiding reinforcing neurotic beliefs or perceptions, so a lot more still needs to be done to apply this to psychedelics and schizophrenia. It's important to know that these clinical trials are showing the results for psychedelics+ good set and setting + therapy, not just psychedelics alone. Just taking psychedelics isn't going to heal people, and when done thoughtlessly, it can be hamrful, whether one has schizophrenia or not. It's important to be aware how these factors radically affect the outcome of psychedelic experiences long term, and to keep them in mind if one chooses to use psychedelics without clinical supervision. I think a lot of people tend to falsely moralize the "natural" substances, especially weed or psychedelics, as being morally superior compared to all these "big nasty lab made chemicals", which is very misguided. For example, nicotine, a great example of a drug that is both "natural" and seen as "bad", has antipsychotic properties. However, nicotine has too short of a half life and has too many toxic effects at higher doses to be a realistic option to actually use as an antipsychotic. However, if researchers are able to prove, say, that nicotine's action as an acetylcholine receptor agonist is behind its antipsychotic properties, then they can synthesize a drug based on nicotine that also acts as an acetylcholine receptor agonist, but has a longer half life and a more forgiving dose response curve with fewer toxic effects at doses high enough needed for antipsychotic effects compared to nicotine, and thus can be more realistically used an an antipsychotic drug long term. I think improved synthetic drugs are going to show a lot more promise than natural remedies.
Nicotine increased my psychosis. It does make it easier to talk for people who become depressed by their issues but long term nicotine is a physiological stressor which creates short term anxiety, panic attacks, and histamine responses. All of these are related to psychological stress and physiological adaptation towards psychosis. I don’t like the term plastic, and people don’t really understand what it means so I’ll stick with “physiological adaptation”. When you use a metaphor like plastic it drives away from the biochemical reality and makes it seem like something you work only with talk therapy.
do only people with schizophrenia experience psychosis while taking mushrooms? i’ve taken mushrooms multiple times and every time i had a horrible trip and experienced what she described earlier on her channel as psychosis. i am not very educated on this, i don’t know if i am schizophrenic nor am i claiming to be i’m just wondering if anyone can have these psychosis episodes on mushrooms
@@aliyahsimmons2471 I always had a good time on mushrooms but was definitely hallucinating the entire time. It was part of the kicker that sent me in a four year long psychosis that I couldn’t break. Schizophrenics shouldn’t do drugs ever and stick to a glass of wine or a spirit about once a week or once a month or just once in a while. I am older so psychosis is a temporary pain in the butt that occurs and I deal with with just making clear boundaries, meditation, getting more sleep, cutting down caffeine but doesn’t determine my entire life. If you are Schizoaffective taking drugs will be your whole life as you will be psychotic most of the time.
Been watching your content for a few months now and wow. Your content is so important. And I’m in awe that you are willing to put yourself out there in such a genuine and honest way. Can’t think of anything more terrifying! Thank you!
A strong cup of chamomile tea can significantly reduce anxiety. I used 3-4 bags and let it steep for 10-15 minutes when I got off benzo. It was honestly a game changer. I’ll drink it at night now, but in a smaller amount for sleep.
Diagnosed CPTSD, bipolar, Manic Depressive, ODD. I was in residential group homes at a young age and I was taking Risperidone. When I turned 18 I stopped my meds without weening and it caused me to lash out violently. Fast forward to now (27) and I’ve had 7 episodes in the past three months… all in relation to one another. My hallucinations are always spiritually related and always with other people who are actually there. But I interact with them and have conversations about my own sins and short comings and things I’m ashamed of. My worst episode was recently at my sisters for Easter. I was forced to tell my girlfriend about my childhood and things I had done and she wasn’t upset with me and that made the other people upset with me and my brother pulled out a gun and shot at us, he ran down the road towards us as we drove away. While this was all happening other family members were telling me that I needed to get help or see someone. I remember telling my girlfriend that she had to get my out of there and that I had someone to see. I told her I had to stay calm and that he had a gun and if she freaks out I’ll lose my control. In these episodes if I lie or try to down play it the episode gets worse. I was told by the people I was seeing that I couldn’t touch them “it’s rule” and if I said “this isn’t real” they would say “try again” happened multiple times I had 5 episodes following this big one that all related to it. I even thought my employer received a video of the interaction as a way of shaming me. As well as 4 of my close friends. All of them confronted me about the incident. My roommate caught me looking all over my car for the bullet hole. When my brother in law shot at us my sister hit the gun and said “he’s not worth it, you have a kid on the way” (she didn’t know she was pregnant until the day after the incident and announced it online later that week) I’ve had these types of hallucinations since I was young. But they always are people I know and care about and their eyes change and I get this feeling I can’t describe. I haven’t been able to find any explanation of this or why I would have such vivid hallucinations I’ve always thought it was a spiritual connection…. I used to see a bright light that would guide me. That’s how I got my career path. My relationship started this way. It happened when I took care of my dad on hospice (cancer) I snapped and then all of a sudden he sat up and was moving and told me that I was having a spiritual awakening and that god was proud of me for how far I’ve come. I lashed out and was angry with him . The episode ended and then my dad told me that he was concerned and who was I talking to. And I told him it was god…. Well he said my mother had episodes like this when she was young Before my mom committed suicide, I had an episode with her and she was saying all kinds of mean things to me… I screamed “this isn’t real” and it stopped…. She realized what I was experiencing and told me that it wasn’t god and that it’s how the condition builds trust with me before it breaks me.. like it did her. She was also bipolar and was raped as a child. Had ptsd and a massive drug addiction throughout her life…. Cocaine, pain killers and at the end of her life Meth. I’ve had many positive hallucinations that really do feel spiritual and nurturing. Anyways….. I’ve made the decision to finally seek professional help as an adult and just had my first appointment to start back on antipsychotics…. I am so afraid of this getting worse My fiancé just doesn’t seem to understand what I’m going through and my family just things I need to be sedated. I’m self employed, I have a relatively calm demeanor, I don’t get angry, my mood is stable, I eat and cook well for myself. I do lots of activities outside… I just don’t think my diagnosis fit….
Sending best wishes to you, peace and health. Somone very close to me in my family is diagnosed with it. She is on meds for years , less but more sometimes. She isn't well these days and I am very scared for her. She is a very bright and a high achiever so handling a lot of work pressure too. That's what I meant. :((
Okay, to be clear… many people who are talking about this stuff either don’t make the distinction clear or have never personally tried these things. At any normal recreational or therapeutic dose of a psychedelic (excluding dmt, which is very potent and analogous to other psychedelics at extreme doses, and generally used to specifically induce transcendent true hallucinations ) … you WILL NOT have flat out hallucinations with people or things or experiences manifesting as if it were indistinguishable from normal waking life that you can directly interact with. That being said… it can however alter your perceptions about reality, cause psychosis, or potentially delusions based on the contents of your thinking pattern. Your thoughts can become slippery, as in forgetful, your thoughts can be faster… your emotions are heightened and have extra dimensions to them… they feel more intense… things perceptually can be distorted in many ways including the ways your brain recognizes stuff… things can look more vibrant… these things are amplifiers of the mind… the problem I feel for schizophrenics is that if you serious paranoid delusions it can in fact exasperate that. Trying not to think about things you don’t want often make it hard for your mind, especially in an altered state, to not go there. If you aren’t ready to turn the volume on your emotions and thought patterns to 1000/100 then I wouldn’t recommend anything above the equivalence of 100ug lsd whatsoever maybe not even above 50ug at first… and for some that may be approaching more than they can handle… Psychedelics won’t fix the “hardware” of the brain… it can only update the software in the hardware if that loose analogy makes sense. Like yeah it can alter neuronal connections… but it cant really do that in a targeted way… so I’m pretty sure psychedelics won’t be the anti-biotic of schizophrenia. If your symptoms are “hardware” based then I wouldn’t count on it… if they were “software” based then there’s a possibility some new emotional revelations or understanding or new found tolerance to paranoia or something, can improve your symptoms or how you perceive and deal with it if that makes sense. Psychedelics aren’t a flat out cure for anything mental health related… they are a tool that help shift your perspective where then you have to put in the work to maintain… it’s like shocking your sense of reality to make everything novel and interesting again then you leverage that to better yourself if it’s important enough to you. You can feel “reborn” or like you just “woke up”. These feelings and vibes can facilitate a shift in perspective/habits but you have to put in the effort after a trip still. Be wary though… the opposite emotional/vibe effect can happen… feeling emotional discomfort and bad vibes is just as amplified… so set and setting is important to consider… this includes your relative mental health.
I believe it's good to understand if we have a mental setback, mental illness, and what have you, but sometimes we can become so fixated on the problem we forget about being well or getting well. It isn't good to cottle our problems. For example, some say they are bipolar. No, you are Steve or Suzie, etc, who may have a condition called bipolar disorder. Anyhow, everyone have a blessed day in Jesus. 😊 🙏🕊✝️
Hey Lauren... you should reach out to Psychiatrist Gabrielle Ledger, Bowmanville Ontario. She is a jewel. VERY SKILLED and MUCH LOVED and respected at Durham Mental Health Services. She is supportive of supplements and knowledgeable around alternative treatments. (Wondering why you focus on America issues and Doctors south of the border?)
Ketamine saved my life in regards to Bipolar and depression. Unfortunately I can't afford it anymore, and my insurance company won't pay for it all all, so now I'm back to medications that hardly do anything for me. Chances are I will find my way own way out of this mess.
Rinner, can you go into detail about how ketamine helped you? I also have bipolar and depression and have tried almost everything except ketamine. I want to give it a try but am fearful.
There’s the least amount of support or insurance payouts for these treatments because we lack psychologist and psychiatrist that are intentionally not trained during their education to understand alternative treatment efficacy rates even though these drugs have been studied behind closed doors for decades. It’s just not available to the general public. You must be a proactive researcher. Chronically mentally sick people are an enormous source of wealth for big pharma. Follow the money.
@@panama7564id also love some insight. i keep seeing ads for the ketamine nasal spray during therapy, and wonder if it would be able to kick start the efficacy of my other med routine.
A bit of a rant (not against Dr. Marks or this channel, I like watching both): I've had both ketamine and psychosis and while ketamine did help quite a bit (and surprisingly long-term) with the suicidal depression, I don't see ANY parallels between ketamine and psychosis in terms of the subjective experience. It was literally impossible for me to get psychotic from ketamine. I felt that. That experience is just miles away from a psychosis. Psychosis is much, much more intense, life-changing, philosophical, affecting your entire being, even though the ketamine induced hallucinations were stronger than those in the psychosis. But psychosis also and maybe even primarily happens on an emotional level, an emotional level that is beyond what can be understood by someone who has not experienced it. And for ketamine that is just not true, it's not an emotional experience. And the early psychiatrists knew that. Bleuler knew that schizophrenia is not only and not primarily delusions and hallucinations. Jaspers knew that psychosis isn't hallucinations or delusions, but the change in personality. It's so sad what psychiatry has become and I say that knowing very well what it used to be 80 years ago. But people like Jaspers had a good understanding of the human and empathy. Today it's just pills and arrogance. People seem to think they have understood everything, even though they have not experienced it themselves, never suffered, never been psychotic. And that is especially true for psychiatrists who make claims about the similarity of psychotic experiences with ketamine, mescaline etc., because you can't really get further away from the usual experience than in psychosis. It's just my experience with psychiatry. I have the disorder, but THEY tell me what I experienced. Ridiculous. It’s astounding that instead of asking the patients about the experience they think they know it better by just observing them and asking some superficial questions from some stupid questionnaire. I'd almost go as far as to call that "illness appropriation". And looking at the cause of psychosis, there is another major difference to ketamine: To me it is a reaction to suffering, caused by stress, especially anxiety. That vulnerability model is well recognized and I deeply feel it and did so already before I was diagnosed. And ketamine is just not a stressful or anxiety-inducing experience. Yeah, there might be some "neurostuff" going on that I don't know about, but is psychiatry really so narrow-minded that it has become all about the dopamine and whatever else there is? There will be a time when all the other approaches will not be ridiculed as this seems to be the case today. Everything is just science today, with all the epistemological and other flaws like conflicts of interests or methodological problems. The general public though doesn't understand science and if you argue against it you will get shut down. It's a perfidious, but brilliant system to push some agenda, in psychiatry it's to sell pills. What I also want to say is that I don't really see why there seems to be this caution when it comes to these alternative treatments and patients with a history of psychosis. It's the same with benzodiazepines. Some doctors are so careful with them that they completely forget how well they reduce anxiety. I'd probably agree to participate in a study with LSD or psilocybin, but there is pretty much always an exclusion of patients with schizophrenia or other psychotic disorders, even though I already had ketamine and couldn’t have been further away from getting psychotic from that experience. But hey, better listen to your doc!
You ladies are my go-to when it comes to the topics around mental illness. I'm so glad this collab happened! I learned a lot from both of you. Thank you!
It's also dependent on how strong the person's mind is I'm saying this as someone who taken mushrooms for a month and stopped and I see positive results but after 2 months I started going down again during this month but I've been working harder and harder then I have I probably will go back but finding something to make sure my mind is here with my body and I'm here and stable to live on my own and doing things for my myself only did this outta of a point to prove I can do what's needed for me
Ive been going through my own journey as a schizophrenic. Instead of looking at psychedelics (which is illegal here in the UK), ive been using basic things you can get anywhere. Essentially, salt and water. Apparently salt is really good for dopamine modulation and water is good for reducing anxiety. Combine the two for me and all of a sudden my delusions and thought disorder isnt so severe. I've also been using breathing exercises like dmt breathing. So out of those three i can now function far better.
It depends on how hightened your spiritual connections are and if you’re connected to those that are helpful or just dis-identifying You have to heal more internally before you use psychedelics or..... they could initiate nihilistic tendencies
It’s my birthday. This video was the best gift 💝 it gives me Hope for the future in this ”demon possesed soul”…….hearing voices and I am easily scared. I want like a deprivation tank….. Thank you 🙏🏻
The focus being shifted away from “chemical imbalance” and towards tightening the connections in the brain is fascinating to me. Great discussion! I’m curious about the risks as well about these potential treatment options.
I was listening to a podcast where a Harvard med school educated psychiatrist mentioned studies that are underway involving the impact of ketogenic diet on schizophrenia and schizoaffective disorders right now. Some of the anecdotal cases showing benefits that he described were incredible. I think the name of the book the doctor wrote is called “Brain Energy”. Incredible, fascinating stuff in that book that I hope had broad benefits and applications for schizophrenia and mental health conditions collectively.
The Doc is Chris Palmer. He has many utube videos describing how , about 3 months on keto, significantly improves many serious mental health disorders, (schizoprenia, bi-polar , anxiety disorders etc.).I started keto because of this guy .I'm 6 weeks in ketosis and the anti- depressant affects are already evident .I'll know in about 1.5 months if I benefit from any other symptoms reduction.
@@blubbblubb6239 Yes - that’s the podcast. I’ve been listening to the audiobook since yesterday. Fascinating stuff about metabolic impacts on our brain and body.
Practice and training shows result but most importantly when doing psychedelics the key is to put intention into the psychedelic of choice going into it with preparation like meditation & mindfulness otherwise it just becomes an attack on the mind and body and spirit
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My bf has Schitzoaffective disorder with severe depression and his doctors and him were considering ketamine infusions. There's one last med they're trying (he's had pharmacogenic testing and has failed so many meds). I'm really hoping we can find something that works.
Hey so let's not recommend treatments when you're not someone's doctor. My fiance also lives with chronic and reoccurring hypoglycemia that can get pretty severe. Carnivore might literally kill him and natural "medicine" isn't going to cure him. Things have changed a lot since 9 months ago but I don't appreciate that kind of advice.
Hi Lauren. I think you asked a great question, are there any herbs or natural remedies to help with the side effects of the medications. The problem is that the doctor doesn't work with herbal remedies or homeopathic remedies and we could go on. It's not on her plate. I would love to ask that question to someone who is very learned and skilled at herbs homeopathic remedies and other natural sources to help mitigate the side effects. Thank you for this video.
Schizofrenia: bread madness. Ketogenic diet, or even a carnivore diet ( grass fed), help your sodium regulation and the glucose absortion. As the doctor said, our brain in made out cholesterol and fat are considered as the best form of energy: doesn't spike is insuline. As fruits, blueberries, strawberries are raccomended. Also the key elements are: vitamin D, B1, Magnesium, B12, Iron, Folate and zinc
its not caused by eating carbohydrates. or whole wheat for that matter. Pre-emptive however, if one does not has the illness yet and eats a healthy diet consisting of omega 3, vitamine D and some of the key elements you mentioned.. it will reduce the chance of getting it
Wonderful to see the two of you cooperating. Dr. Marks is one of the very few Psychiatrists that I feel has both the compassion and knowledge to be able to trust when one is so utterly vulnerable.
I would think that the legal barriers against psychedelics would make doing meaningful clinical research difficult. Plus, how likely would insurance companies be to pay for them even if they were found to be effective? Also, there's that human tendency to feel that if a little bit of something is good for you, then a larger dose would be even better, which is frequently untrue.
I've got it too, i've been smoking for a while it was really rough for months but eventually now it really just super grounds me too, it genuinely helps massively.
That's amazing to hear. I would just say to anyone be real careful with any amount of thc as it's how I developed symptoms to begin with. I'm not even allowed CBD oil now. A lot of people are fine, some of us are unlucky, stay safe all
I have bipolar and a bunch of other disorders. I used ketamine nose spray for about a year. It really helped at first then after about 8 months it stopped working.
I have depression, anxiety, PTSD, bipolar (which i think was misdiagnosed and i actually have BPD), i believe i also have Schizophrenia or Psychosis. I deal with suicidal ideation, self harm issues, body dysmorphia, insomnia, OCD, ADHD. And ive done mushrooms, lsd, mdma, ketamine all for "fun"/recreationally but also medicinally. I have found that micro dosing is def the way to go. Shroomies and molly are my favorite. Psychedelics are the more spiritual route as well as theraputic. Shrooms i feel are more enlightening and arent as overbearing as LSD/acid. To each their own tho. Shrooms makes you laugh more in my opinion, and you feel more grounded and connected to nature as well as yourself and those you love. Its a nice reset. And with the right people a "trip" can be a lot of fun. As with any other medicene, tread carefully 💜
Remove gluten from your diet, gluten is an exorphin opioid! It make you weird symptoms, like euphoria, psychosis, instable mood exc.. In the first 2/3 week without gluten, you'll have hard days with important withdrawal symptoms, but don't give up, your life will change.
I don't have a psychotic disorder but I've had a psychotic break on a mixture of Psilocybin and Lithium. Really hard to imagine how a drug that stimulates the 5HT2A receptor could help with psychotic symptoms. Very interested to see how the research develops more! A benzo typically kills any psychedelic induced hallucination, which to my understanding doesn't work for psychotic disorders. This makes me think they are different but I see why studying the psychedelic experience might be usable for studying psychosis.
I have done mushrooms for 4 decades now, recreationally for the 1st 30 years and to self treat depression for the past 10 years. as i got older I became quite depressed to the point my car battery would die from lack of use because I never wanted to leave my home. About a decade ago I began to notice I felt good after a mushroom trip and it lasted a month or 2 then i would slowly start sliding again, I do moderate dose of 2 grams.. When I learned they were beginning to explore these medicines for treatment I was both really happy because I know they work 1st hand but also horrified because when I do mushrooms I only do a moderate dose of 2 dried grams and the last place I would want to be is in a clinical setting.. that would turn into a very bad trip I think. Any experienced psychonaught knows set and setting are most important meaning you need to be truly at peace and comfortable with where you are and who you are with because the shrooms are going to strip you of everything and leave you vulnerable as a newborn for 4 or 5 hours.
Ashwaganda could help. I helps the body in many ways. Cognitive, makes muscles stronger and many other uses for the body. I watched a UA-cam video a few weeks ago
Is psycho therapy I have really pick up the emotional immaturity traits of a family member, who took care of me, I moved out after 25 years last year and hating myself for never been myself
I have Schizoaffective Disorder and my biggest delusion is I'm going to hell when I die. I think it was caused by PTSD Complex. But when I took Marijuana, an extremely hateful voice took over my consciousness and tried to take away all hope from me. My Consicousness was capsulated and it was like the universe was hating me. I can't imagine Mushrooms, LSD, and DMT, as I would probably have a psychotic break. There are people that go to Psychedelic hell that don't recover for years. I'm not an advocate for psychedelics for Schizoaffective/Schizophrenia. I think Psychedelics are really dangerous, and bad trips are common among users. Some people can't recover, and they're left with the memory of it. I think we're just grasping for straws to treat the mental health epidemic. And should focus on taking pills that will become more and more effective as we get better at making them.
Schizophrenia, psychedelics and hallucinogenics all work on the same or very similar frequencies. This is why they resemble each other in their manifestations, and why these substances can lead to mental illnesses such as schizophrenia. If you can instruct someone through the experiences of the psychedelics then that person can use the same methods in their life against schizophrenia. But as she stated, they can have an inverse effect and induce psychosis or make them worse. You're walking the razor's edge here, and learning that delicate balance is the key to making it through, which is why a guide is necessary for someone who doesn't understand where they are or what's happening. Psychedelics lifts one into a space that is not without rules or laws of operation, and schizophrenia is the same thing, in that it functions via rules. It's the ignorance of this that not only gets your mind trapped, but keeps us trapped as well. So to learn these rules via psychedelics is to understand them with schizophrenia, and the individual then untangles themselves using their new found understanding: understanding is key. We're making this far more complicated than it is, as is typical of the human mind. It's so simple we've to look down to understand it, yet because these symptoms come so mysterious we're searching all over the universe for the answer, totally missing what's happening or how to shut these doors. Psychedelics are able to ground us in these basic understandings, as they lift us up in experience. There's always up and down relationship, one world we stand in and the inverse of it. Psychedelics are able to open up this understanding within is. It's truly beautiful how it works. We don't need them to achieve anything but because "seeing is believing" they help in that regard. But they're absolutely not necessary in recovery for we all have the potential already laying within us.
Lol I trip on CBD. I have Schizoaffective. I had a trip that the universe was a black hole and everyone gets tortured at the extreme. Also tripped that Schizophrenics have super powers and I was able to communicate with other Schizophrenics via telepathy. Lol Sometimes it makes it worst for people.
I really loved Dr Marks' respectful way of discussing metabolic syndrome, some doctors aren't. Very insightful conversation on psychedelics and schizophrenia. I like that they're looking for alternatives as a lot of people find antipsychotics intolerable or tolerable but with big impacts on life and wellbeing. Hope they keep looking into it.
Kratom can cut through the lethargy and might help with depression. Personally I didn’t much like it on top of Paliperidone but it might be different on other AP’s
I am currently trying to help my brother get through his schizophrenic episodes without meds as I have seen the negative effects of the medications. Do you have any suggestions?
Hi Lorren...need to know if you know of any Clinical Trials being done using alternative treatments in Canada? Need help badly for my 32yrs old son pleeeeease?
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What a strong opening from the psychiatrist, "I've been following you, I know all about you"
I’d be worried asking who she’s been talking to
@@corykirby9070 Or she watches her youtube channel
Typical psychiatrist.
❤❤❤ l guess people will never understand intelligence and progress. Psychiatrists SHOULD be informed about things they would do well to be informed with the real world beyond the trillion dollar fake drug industry. Lauren is fantastic!
Not the best thing to tell a Schizophrenia lol
WHAT A CROSSOVER! I love both of y'all's channels
Exactly. I was so excited to see a video by both.
So glad to see you two collaborating. I love the work that both of you do.
Exactly. This was like a dream come true. I've watched many videos by both and was delighted to see they'd made a video together.
Thank you so much for your video. My partner has schizophrenia and watching your videos has helped me better understand her and open my mind to mental health overall.
Thank you for your support!
@@LivingWellAfterSchizophreniaI've got a picture of my schizophrenia symptoms. Catch up.
This doctor has a really good bedside manner. She wasn’t dismissive and was realistic about things. Basically we are all searching for a cure bc we’re in pain and when new therapies like ketamine come out we get really excited about it. Even though ketamine and psychedelics may not be good for people who are prone to psychosis we need to still have faith that new therapies are around the corner and support one another. Thank you for making this community with your UA-cam channel
If I had access to mushrooms I'd like to take them because I'm happier in psychosis. I think it's fun.
It gives me purpose as I chase the unreal. I let the outside world direct me because it's like a narrator. It let's me know what I'm feeling. I'm already unable to communicate with people, so the downside to psychosis is minimal. I spend a lot of time terrified, but everything has meaning. I already can't function. I refuse to take antipsychotics for similar reasons. They don't help with my ability to think and don't increase my quality of life at all so refuse them. Hospitals don't care about you or what you want though. And family doesn't even know me. They forced me to take invega sustenna even though I told them I didn't want it
@@Miscelanou So you think that being terrified a lot of the time is outweighed by things having meaning, even if the meaning is incorrect? I don't have schizophrenia, but a close friend does. The times I've seen her psychotic, it looked tremendously stressful, and I can't imagine finding that state preferable to being properly medicated. It may be easier for her to think when she's psychotic, but her thinking is incredibly distorted, and she's a danger to herself. I've seen how bad the side effects were for her, and hope that the medication she's taking now won't have as many side effects as the last one.
@Maria Shaffer-Gordon I'm more of a danger to myself when psychotic because I'm more likely to act out
But when I'm medicated all I want is to be able to hurt myself
@@Miscelanou I'm really sorry to hear that you want to hurt yourself when you're medicated. I hope that you have people to support you who would care if you injured yourself or did something worse, and that you find a therapist to help you with these feelings. I know what it feels like to be severely depressed, and to feel that physical pain would be preferable to mental pain. Good luck wrestling with your demons.
Thanks!
Thanks so much for these videos
It's easy to understand how these drugs help. My schizophrenic symptoms might be a 5 on a normal day and it's disturbing I didn't take anything. Taking a psychedelic the symptoms ramp up to a 10 but knowing I took something gives me power and even some control to guide the symptoms how I want. On days I don't take anything, the 5 really doesn't feel like a 5 anymore after experiencing a 10.
I think the main reason why psychedelics can increase psychosis symptoms has to do with their powerful ability to change people's beliefs in a very fundamental way. This alludes to what Dr. Marks says regarding that it's not just brain chemistry, but how psychedelics are able to act on neural plasticity in how they can radically shift thought patterns. It's what can make psychedelics both so healing in an ideal situation where the set and setting allows for the formation of more positive or healthy beliefs, yet so also so risky in terms of being able to strengthen or reinforce beliefs in a way that can dramatically increase the psychotic symptoms if the manner in which psychedelics change neural plasticity is not carefully modulated in a way that prevents reinforcing psychotic beliefs or perceptions.
If psychedelics are to have any potential for schizophrenia, I think a key thing would have to be that there needs to be some sort of objective clinical methodology in regards to controlling set and setting as well as in regards to what the trip sitter could do to shape neural plasiticty changes in a way that would minimize the risk of reinforcing psychotic beliefs or perceptions. There is still ongoing research in this area for depression and anxiety in terms of avoiding reinforcing neurotic beliefs or perceptions, so a lot more still needs to be done to apply this to psychedelics and schizophrenia.
It's important to know that these clinical trials are showing the results for psychedelics+ good set and setting + therapy, not just psychedelics alone. Just taking psychedelics isn't going to heal people, and when done thoughtlessly, it can be hamrful, whether one has schizophrenia or not. It's important to be aware how these factors radically affect the outcome of psychedelic experiences long term, and to keep them in mind if one chooses to use psychedelics without clinical supervision.
I think a lot of people tend to falsely moralize the "natural" substances, especially weed or psychedelics, as being morally superior compared to all these "big nasty lab made chemicals", which is very misguided. For example, nicotine, a great example of a drug that is both "natural" and seen as "bad", has antipsychotic properties. However, nicotine has too short of a half life and has too many toxic effects at higher doses to be a realistic option to actually use as an antipsychotic.
However, if researchers are able to prove, say, that nicotine's action as an acetylcholine receptor agonist is behind its antipsychotic properties, then they can synthesize a drug based on nicotine that also acts as an acetylcholine receptor agonist, but has a longer half life and a more forgiving dose response curve with fewer toxic effects at doses high enough needed for antipsychotic effects compared to nicotine, and thus can be more realistically used an an antipsychotic drug long term. I think improved synthetic drugs are going to show a lot more promise than natural remedies.
@SoftserveSodium I think set + setting and dosage will determine whether a person has an adverse reaction or a beneficial reaction
Nicotine increased my psychosis. It does make it easier to talk for people who become depressed by their issues but long term nicotine is a physiological stressor which creates short term anxiety, panic attacks, and histamine responses. All of these are related to psychological stress and physiological adaptation towards psychosis. I don’t like the term plastic, and people don’t really understand what it means so I’ll stick with “physiological adaptation”. When you use a metaphor like plastic it drives away from the biochemical reality and makes it seem like something you work only with talk therapy.
I wish they're do some honest studies on what psychotronic weapons do to our minds. But nope, instead it's just cue the big deny and gaslight.
do only people with schizophrenia experience psychosis while taking mushrooms? i’ve taken mushrooms multiple times and every time i had a horrible trip and experienced what she described earlier on her channel as psychosis. i am not very educated on this, i don’t know if i am schizophrenic nor am i claiming to be i’m just wondering if anyone can have these psychosis episodes on mushrooms
@@aliyahsimmons2471 I always had a good time on mushrooms but was definitely hallucinating the entire time. It was part of the kicker that sent me in a four year long psychosis that I couldn’t break. Schizophrenics shouldn’t do drugs ever and stick to a glass of wine or a spirit about once a week or once a month or just once in a while.
I am older so psychosis is a temporary pain in the butt that occurs and I deal with with just making clear boundaries, meditation, getting more sleep, cutting down caffeine but doesn’t determine my entire life. If you are Schizoaffective taking drugs will be your whole life as you will be psychotic most of the time.
Yay! Love you both! And now together❤😊
Been watching your content for a few months now and wow.
Your content is so important. And I’m in awe that you are willing to put yourself out there in such a genuine and honest way. Can’t think of anything more terrifying!
Thank you!
I love Dr. Tracey Marks
My dream crossover!!!!!! Yesss!!!!!!! Good job!!!!!!!
I thought I was seeing things but y'all really collaborated! I love it!!
A strong cup of chamomile tea can significantly reduce anxiety. I used 3-4 bags and let it steep for 10-15 minutes when I got off benzo. It was honestly a game changer. I’ll drink it at night now, but in a smaller amount for sleep.
I think it depends on high you benzos were, do you mind sharing that? Or is that too personal..
Diagnosed CPTSD, bipolar, Manic Depressive, ODD.
I was in residential group homes at a young age and I was taking Risperidone.
When I turned 18 I stopped my meds without weening and it caused me to lash out violently.
Fast forward to now (27) and I’ve had 7 episodes in the past three months… all in relation to one another.
My hallucinations are always spiritually related and always with other people who are actually there. But I interact with them and have conversations about my own sins and short comings and things I’m ashamed of.
My worst episode was recently at my sisters for Easter. I was forced to tell my girlfriend about my childhood and things I had done and she wasn’t upset with me and that made the other people upset with me and my brother pulled out a gun and shot at us, he ran down the road towards us as we drove away. While this was all happening other family members were telling me that I needed to get help or see someone. I remember telling my girlfriend that she had to get my out of there and that I had someone to see. I told her I had to stay calm and that he had a gun and if she freaks out I’ll lose my control.
In these episodes if I lie or try to down play it the episode gets worse. I was told by the people I was seeing that I couldn’t touch them “it’s rule” and if I said “this isn’t real” they would say “try again” happened multiple times
I had 5 episodes following this big one that all related to it. I even thought my employer received a video of the interaction as a way of shaming me. As well as 4 of my close friends. All of them confronted me about the incident.
My roommate caught me looking all over my car for the bullet hole.
When my brother in law shot at us my sister hit the gun and said “he’s not worth it, you have a kid on the way” (she didn’t know she was pregnant until the day after the incident and announced it online later that week)
I’ve had these types of hallucinations since I was young. But they always are people I know and care about and their eyes change and I get this feeling I can’t describe.
I haven’t been able to find any explanation of this or why I would have such vivid hallucinations
I’ve always thought it was a spiritual connection…. I used to see a bright light that would guide me. That’s how I got my career path. My relationship started this way.
It happened when I took care of my dad on hospice (cancer)
I snapped and then all of a sudden he sat up and was moving and told me that I was having a spiritual awakening and that god was proud of me for how far I’ve come. I lashed out and was angry with him . The episode ended and then my dad told me that he was concerned and who was I talking to. And I told him it was god…. Well he said my mother had episodes like this when she was young
Before my mom committed suicide, I had an episode with her and she was saying all kinds of mean things to me… I screamed “this isn’t real” and it stopped…. She realized what I was experiencing and told me that it wasn’t god and that it’s how the condition builds trust with me before it breaks me.. like it did her. She was also bipolar and was raped as a child. Had ptsd and a massive drug addiction throughout her life…. Cocaine, pain killers and at the end of her life Meth.
I’ve had many positive hallucinations that really do feel spiritual and nurturing.
Anyways….. I’ve made the decision to finally seek professional help as an adult and just had my first appointment to start back on antipsychotics….
I am so afraid of this getting worse
My fiancé just doesn’t seem to understand what I’m going through and my family just things I need to be sedated.
I’m self employed, I have a relatively calm demeanor, I don’t get angry, my mood is stable, I eat and cook well for myself. I do lots of activities outside… I just don’t think my diagnosis fit….
Sending best wishes to you, peace and health. Somone very close to me in my family is diagnosed with it. She is on meds for years , less but more sometimes. She isn't well these days and I am very scared for her. She is a very bright and a high achiever so handling a lot of work pressure too. That's what I meant. :((
Love these collaborations between you two!! More please!! 😊
thank you Lauren and Dr Tracey Marks this was a interesting and thought provoking update on the space / some treatment options.
Okay, to be clear… many people who are talking about this stuff either don’t make the distinction clear or have never personally tried these things. At any normal recreational or therapeutic dose of a psychedelic (excluding dmt, which is very potent and analogous to other psychedelics at extreme doses, and generally used to specifically induce transcendent true hallucinations ) … you WILL NOT have flat out hallucinations with people or things or experiences manifesting as if it were indistinguishable from normal waking life that you can directly interact with. That being said… it can however alter your perceptions about reality, cause psychosis, or potentially delusions based on the contents of your thinking pattern. Your thoughts can become slippery, as in forgetful, your thoughts can be faster… your emotions are heightened and have extra dimensions to them… they feel more intense… things perceptually can be distorted in many ways including the ways your brain recognizes stuff… things can look more vibrant… these things are amplifiers of the mind… the problem I feel for schizophrenics is that if you serious paranoid delusions it can in fact exasperate that. Trying not to think about things you don’t want often make it hard for your mind, especially in an altered state, to not go there. If you aren’t ready to turn the volume on your emotions and thought patterns to 1000/100 then I wouldn’t recommend anything above the equivalence of 100ug lsd whatsoever maybe not even above 50ug at first… and for some that may be approaching more than they can handle… Psychedelics won’t fix the “hardware” of the brain… it can only update the software in the hardware if that loose analogy makes sense. Like yeah it can alter neuronal connections… but it cant really do that in a targeted way… so I’m pretty sure psychedelics won’t be the anti-biotic of schizophrenia. If your symptoms are “hardware” based then I wouldn’t count on it… if they were “software” based then there’s a possibility some new emotional revelations or understanding or new found tolerance to paranoia or something, can improve your symptoms or how you perceive and deal with it if that makes sense. Psychedelics aren’t a flat out cure for anything mental health related… they are a tool that help shift your perspective where then you have to put in the work to maintain… it’s like shocking your sense of reality to make everything novel and interesting again then you leverage that to better yourself if it’s important enough to you. You can feel “reborn” or like you just “woke up”. These feelings and vibes can facilitate a shift in perspective/habits but you have to put in the effort after a trip still. Be wary though… the opposite emotional/vibe effect can happen… feeling emotional discomfort and bad vibes is just as amplified… so set and setting is important to consider… this includes your relative mental health.
I believe it's good to understand if we have a mental setback, mental illness, and what have you, but sometimes we can become so fixated on the problem we forget about being well or getting well. It isn't good to cottle our problems. For example, some say they are bipolar. No, you are Steve or Suzie, etc, who may have a condition called bipolar disorder. Anyhow, everyone have a blessed day in Jesus. 😊 🙏🕊✝️
i love that i follow both of you separately and now your together
Hey Lauren... you should reach out to Psychiatrist Gabrielle Ledger, Bowmanville Ontario. She is a jewel. VERY SKILLED and MUCH LOVED and respected at Durham Mental Health Services. She is supportive of supplements and knowledgeable around alternative treatments. (Wondering why you focus on America issues and Doctors south of the border?)
Ketamine turned a 180 on my life long severe depression, ADHD in 1 week low dose oral. It also stopped me from drinking.
Me too. No way I can afford it anymore though. I've told them what's going to happen to me soon, they don't care as long as I sign over $500.
@@rinner2801 that's too bad. Wishing u well. I pay $129 through Joyous serving 22 states.
Ketamine saved my life in regards to Bipolar and depression. Unfortunately I can't afford it anymore, and my insurance company won't pay for it all all, so now I'm back to medications that hardly do anything for me. Chances are I will find my way own way out of this mess.
Rinner, can you go into detail about how ketamine helped you? I also have bipolar and depression and have tried almost everything except ketamine. I want to give it a try but am fearful.
@@panama7564is it really that different from shrooms?
There’s the least amount of support or insurance payouts for these treatments because we lack psychologist and psychiatrist that are intentionally not trained during their education to understand alternative treatment efficacy rates even though these drugs have been studied behind closed doors for decades. It’s just not available to the general public. You must be a proactive researcher. Chronically mentally sick people are an enormous source of wealth for big pharma. Follow the money.
@@panama7564id also love some insight. i keep seeing ads for the ketamine nasal spray during therapy, and wonder if it would be able to kick start the efficacy of my other med routine.
There’s a company called joyous they do ketamine treatments.
You ALWAYS slay these interviews Lauren!!!!!
This video in my opinion has helped me the most. thank you for this video.
A bit of a rant (not against Dr. Marks or this channel, I like watching both):
I've had both ketamine and psychosis and while ketamine did help quite a bit (and surprisingly long-term) with the suicidal depression, I don't see ANY parallels between ketamine and psychosis in terms of the subjective experience. It was literally impossible for me to get psychotic from ketamine. I felt that. That experience is just miles away from a psychosis. Psychosis is much, much more intense, life-changing, philosophical, affecting your entire being, even though the ketamine induced hallucinations were stronger than those in the psychosis. But psychosis also and maybe even primarily happens on an emotional level, an emotional level that is beyond what can be understood by someone who has not experienced it. And for ketamine that is just not true, it's not an emotional experience. And the early psychiatrists knew that. Bleuler knew that schizophrenia is not only and not primarily delusions and hallucinations. Jaspers knew that psychosis isn't hallucinations or delusions, but the change in personality. It's so sad what psychiatry has become and I say that knowing very well what it used to be 80 years ago. But people like Jaspers had a good understanding of the human and empathy. Today it's just pills and arrogance.
People seem to think they have understood everything, even though they have not experienced it themselves, never suffered, never been psychotic. And that is especially true for psychiatrists who make claims about the similarity of psychotic experiences with ketamine, mescaline etc., because you can't really get further away from the usual experience than in psychosis. It's just my experience with psychiatry. I have the disorder, but THEY tell me what I experienced. Ridiculous. It’s astounding that instead of asking the patients about the experience they think they know it better by just observing them and asking some superficial questions from some stupid questionnaire. I'd almost go as far as to call that "illness appropriation".
And looking at the cause of psychosis, there is another major difference to ketamine: To me it is a reaction to suffering, caused by stress, especially anxiety. That vulnerability model is well recognized and I deeply feel it and did so already before I was diagnosed. And ketamine is just not a stressful or anxiety-inducing experience. Yeah, there might be some "neurostuff" going on that I don't know about, but is psychiatry really so narrow-minded that it has become all about the dopamine and whatever else there is? There will be a time when all the other approaches will not be ridiculed as this seems to be the case today. Everything is just science today, with all the epistemological and other flaws like conflicts of interests or methodological problems. The general public though doesn't understand science and if you argue against it you will get shut down. It's a perfidious, but brilliant system to push some agenda, in psychiatry it's to sell pills.
What I also want to say is that I don't really see why there seems to be this caution when it comes to these alternative treatments and patients with a history of psychosis. It's the same with benzodiazepines. Some doctors are so careful with them that they completely forget how well they reduce anxiety. I'd probably agree to participate in a study with LSD or psilocybin, but there is pretty much always an exclusion of patients with schizophrenia or other psychotic disorders, even though I already had ketamine and couldn’t have been further away from getting psychotic from that experience. But hey, better listen to your doc!
Great collaboration!!!!!!!
You ladies are my go-to when it comes to the topics around mental illness. I'm so glad this collab happened! I learned a lot from both of you. Thank you!
Thank you for your wonderful channel💚💚
Great info. I love your hair style & color Lauren!
It's also dependent on how strong the person's mind is I'm saying this as someone who taken mushrooms for a month and stopped and I see positive results but after 2 months I started going down again during this month but I've been working harder and harder then I have I probably will go back but finding something to make sure my mind is here with my body and I'm here and stable to live on my own and doing things for my myself only did this outta of a point to prove I can do what's needed for me
I haven't even watched the video yet and I am liking it, I love your channel just as much as Dr Tracey Marks'.
Ive been going through my own journey as a schizophrenic. Instead of looking at psychedelics (which is illegal here in the UK), ive been using basic things you can get anywhere. Essentially, salt and water. Apparently salt is really good for dopamine modulation and water is good for reducing anxiety. Combine the two for me and all of a sudden my delusions and thought disorder isnt so severe. I've also been using breathing exercises like dmt breathing. So out of those three i can now function far better.
Im so glad with this video!
It depends on how hightened your spiritual connections are and if you’re connected to those that are helpful or just dis-identifying
You have to heal more internally before you use psychedelics or..... they could initiate nihilistic tendencies
It’s my birthday. This video was the best gift 💝 it gives me Hope for the future in this ”demon possesed soul”…….hearing voices and I am easily scared. I want like a deprivation tank…..
Thank you 🙏🏻
YES! I love Dr. Marks! I watch all of her ADHD videos.
The focus being shifted away from “chemical imbalance” and towards tightening the connections in the brain is fascinating to me. Great discussion! I’m curious about the risks as well about these potential treatment options.
But from one after years of gaslighting people, let’s try some another stories which makes no sense either to mess with peoples heads.
Love this! I listen to this doctor too.
best collab
love this crossover!! i was so excited to see it.
I was listening to a podcast where a Harvard med school educated psychiatrist mentioned studies that are underway involving the impact of ketogenic diet on schizophrenia and schizoaffective disorders right now. Some of the anecdotal cases showing benefits that he described were incredible. I think the name of the book the doctor wrote is called “Brain Energy”. Incredible, fascinating stuff in that book that I hope had broad benefits and applications for schizophrenia and mental health conditions collectively.
Lol
have you been listening to "the Hubermann lab"? Or was it a different podcast?
Dr. Chris Palmer
The Doc is Chris Palmer. He has many utube videos describing how , about 3 months on keto, significantly improves many serious mental health disorders, (schizoprenia, bi-polar , anxiety disorders etc.).I started keto because of this guy .I'm 6 weeks in ketosis and the anti- depressant affects are already evident .I'll know in about 1.5 months if I benefit from any other symptoms reduction.
@@blubbblubb6239 Yes - that’s the podcast. I’ve been listening to the audiobook since yesterday. Fascinating stuff about metabolic impacts on our brain and body.
Practice and training shows result but most importantly when doing psychedelics the key is to put intention into the psychedelic of choice going into it with preparation like meditation & mindfulness otherwise it just becomes an attack on the mind and body and spirit
Ah! My two favorite Mental health channels! 💞
You both are inspirational, and this is such a brilliant and valuable interview.
I'm so psyched by seeing you two together!
Wonderful to see you two join forces
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My bf has Schitzoaffective disorder with severe depression and his doctors and him were considering ketamine infusions. There's one last med they're trying (he's had pharmacogenic testing and has failed so many meds). I'm really hoping we can find something that works.
Ask for low dose oral or nasal if you go that route.
Did you try carnivore eating?
@@alexandruolaru834 I can totally believe that..how psychosis manifest in you? I have ocd ..and carnivore really helps..
Thanks
maybe try allopathy or ayurveda medicine
Hey so let's not recommend treatments when you're not someone's doctor. My fiance also lives with chronic and reoccurring hypoglycemia that can get pretty severe. Carnivore might literally kill him and natural "medicine" isn't going to cure him. Things have changed a lot since 9 months ago but I don't appreciate that kind of advice.
great collab!
Thank you for your collaboration! I subscribe to both your and Dr Marks’ channels! ❤
Hi Lauren. I think you asked a great question, are there any herbs or natural remedies to help with the side effects of the medications. The problem is that the doctor doesn't work with herbal remedies or homeopathic remedies and we could go on. It's not on her plate. I would love to ask that question to someone who is very learned and skilled at herbs homeopathic remedies and other natural sources to help mitigate the side effects. Thank you for this video.
Woaaah I never thought you 2 would collaborate,my favorite psychiatrist 👍👍👍👍
Schizofrenia: bread madness.
Ketogenic diet, or even a carnivore diet ( grass fed), help your sodium regulation and the glucose absortion.
As the doctor said, our brain in made out cholesterol and fat are considered as the best form of energy: doesn't spike is insuline.
As fruits, blueberries, strawberries are raccomended.
Also the key elements are: vitamin D, B1, Magnesium, B12, Iron, Folate and zinc
its not caused by eating carbohydrates. or whole wheat for that matter. Pre-emptive however, if one does not has the illness yet and eats a healthy diet consisting of omega 3, vitamine D and some of the key elements you mentioned.. it will reduce the chance of getting it
MDMA should be made legal again as it really works for depression, when I used it was I felt was pure happiness and love.
Your man is so lucky to have you if he ever fails I'm here for you
Wonderful to see the two of you cooperating. Dr. Marks is one of the very few Psychiatrists that I feel has both the compassion and knowledge to be able to trust when one is so utterly vulnerable.
Thank-you. ❤
Bangin video very Informative yall are the best ! I'm gonna learn about keto diets now
I would think that the legal barriers against psychedelics would make doing meaningful clinical research difficult. Plus, how likely would insurance companies be to pay for them even if they were found to be effective? Also, there's that human tendency to feel that if a little bit of something is good for you, then a larger dose would be even better, which is frequently untrue.
I have paranoid schizophrenia and I take CBD oil 5%, it also has
I've got it too, i've been smoking for a while it was really rough for months but eventually now it really just super grounds me too, it genuinely helps massively.
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That's amazing to hear. I would just say to anyone be real careful with any amount of thc as it's how I developed symptoms to begin with. I'm not even allowed CBD oil now. A lot of people are fine, some of us are unlucky, stay safe all
I do keto/carnivore for mental health and it really helps me, also I lost 10 stone doing it!
I have bipolar and a bunch of other disorders. I used ketamine nose spray for about a year. It really helped at first then after about 8 months it stopped working.
Common theme I see hear often
Very interesting, thanks
I tried Ketamine infusions and it definitely helped with some social anxiety but I’m not cured of schizophrenia.
I watch both of your guy's channels and you guys have helped me through so much going on in my life.
Guys?
I have depression, anxiety, PTSD, bipolar (which i think was misdiagnosed and i actually have BPD), i believe i also have Schizophrenia or Psychosis. I deal with suicidal ideation, self harm issues, body dysmorphia, insomnia, OCD, ADHD. And ive done mushrooms, lsd, mdma, ketamine all for "fun"/recreationally but also medicinally. I have found that micro dosing is def the way to go. Shroomies and molly are my favorite. Psychedelics are the more spiritual route as well as theraputic. Shrooms i feel are more enlightening and arent as overbearing as LSD/acid. To each their own tho. Shrooms makes you laugh more in my opinion, and you feel more grounded and connected to nature as well as yourself and those you love. Its a nice reset. And with the right people a "trip" can be a lot of fun. As with any other medicene, tread carefully 💜
I personally think all those things make my schizophrenia so much worse but best to everyone trying
This! I really think this is not recommended for people with schizophrenia
The crossover we needed in 2022.
My two favourite mental health UA-camrs together! ❤️
Remove gluten from your diet, gluten is an exorphin opioid! It make you weird symptoms, like euphoria, psychosis, instable mood exc..
In the first 2/3 week without gluten, you'll have hard days with important withdrawal symptoms, but don't give up, your life will change.
You are so right gluten, and carbs..are the posion..with food we can heal❤
If you have Ptsd.....! Can it turn ìnto schizophrenia......! Personally gone through alot of trauma. In the past
I don't have a psychotic disorder but I've had a psychotic break on a mixture of Psilocybin and Lithium. Really hard to imagine how a drug that stimulates the 5HT2A receptor could help with psychotic symptoms. Very interested to see how the research develops more!
A benzo typically kills any psychedelic induced hallucination, which to my understanding doesn't work for psychotic disorders. This makes me think they are different but I see why studying the psychedelic experience might be usable for studying psychosis.
Been following both of you for a long time!!! So good to see you together ☺️
I'm a Home Health Psych Nurse and learn lots from both of you.
Mental illnesses do not discriminate based on race or ethnicity, and attributing them to a divine punishment is harmful and stigmatizing.
I have done mushrooms for 4 decades now, recreationally for the 1st 30 years and to self treat depression for the past 10 years. as i got older I became quite depressed to the point my car battery would die from lack of use because I never wanted to leave my home. About a decade ago I began to notice I felt good after a mushroom trip and it lasted a month or 2 then i would slowly start sliding again, I do moderate dose of 2 grams.. When I learned they were beginning to explore these medicines for treatment I was both really happy because I know they work 1st hand but also horrified because when I do mushrooms I only do a moderate dose of 2 dried grams and the last place I would want to be is in a clinical setting.. that would turn into a very bad trip I think. Any experienced psychonaught knows set and setting are most important meaning you need to be truly at peace and comfortable with where you are and who you are with because the shrooms are going to strip you of everything and leave you vulnerable as a newborn for 4 or 5 hours.
I was given special k at tge ER. It was bad. I felt afraid and like I lost control of my thoughts. Never again, unless its the only thing available..
Love the questions you asked they were very helpful
Ashwaganda could help. I helps the body in many ways. Cognitive, makes muscles stronger and many other uses for the body. I watched a UA-cam video a few weeks ago
What about niacin and the different forms of niacin???? NAD and NR????? SURPRISED this wasn't discussed.. there's research going on with NIH
I love her UA-cam channel
Is psycho therapy
I have really pick up the emotional immaturity traits of a family member, who took care of me,
I moved out after 25 years last year and hating myself for never been myself
I have Schizoaffective Disorder and my biggest delusion is I'm going to hell when I die. I think it was caused by PTSD Complex. But when I took Marijuana, an extremely hateful voice took over my consciousness and tried to take away all hope from me. My Consicousness was capsulated and it was like the universe was hating me. I can't imagine Mushrooms, LSD, and DMT, as I would probably have a psychotic break. There are people that go to Psychedelic hell that don't recover for years. I'm not an advocate for psychedelics for Schizoaffective/Schizophrenia. I think Psychedelics are really dangerous, and bad trips are common among users. Some people can't recover, and they're left with the memory of it. I think we're just grasping for straws to treat the mental health epidemic. And should focus on taking pills that will become more and more effective as we get better at making them.
Interesting that Dr. Marks mentions the myelin sheath. My daughter has MS and my son has schizohprenia.
@Ynabenzema WTF???
Schizophrenia, psychedelics and hallucinogenics all work on the same or very similar frequencies. This is why they resemble each other in their manifestations, and why these substances can lead to mental illnesses such as schizophrenia. If you can instruct someone through the experiences of the psychedelics then that person can use the same methods in their life against schizophrenia. But as she stated, they can have an inverse effect and induce psychosis or make them worse. You're walking the razor's edge here, and learning that delicate balance is the key to making it through, which is why a guide is necessary for someone who doesn't understand where they are or what's happening.
Psychedelics lifts one into a space that is not without rules or laws of operation, and schizophrenia is the same thing, in that it functions via rules. It's the ignorance of this that not only gets your mind trapped, but keeps us trapped as well. So to learn these rules via psychedelics is to understand them with schizophrenia, and the individual then untangles themselves using their new found understanding: understanding is key.
We're making this far more complicated than it is, as is typical of the human mind. It's so simple we've to look down to understand it, yet because these symptoms come so mysterious we're searching all over the universe for the answer, totally missing what's happening or how to shut these doors. Psychedelics are able to ground us in these basic understandings, as they lift us up in experience. There's always up and down relationship, one world we stand in and the inverse of it. Psychedelics are able to open up this understanding within is. It's truly beautiful how it works. We don't need them to achieve anything but because "seeing is believing" they help in that regard. But they're absolutely not necessary in recovery for we all have the potential already laying within us.
@Dan very interesting. Good to hear it helped! It definitely can help, so that's a positive.
Yes the answer is frequency
What about pregnenolone and cbd? I've read these can both have antipsychotic effects
I was thinking CBD. My schizophrenia is not that bad but it seems to help me. I was wonder how anyone took to it.
Lol I trip on CBD. I have Schizoaffective. I had a trip that the universe was a black hole and everyone gets tortured at the extreme. Also tripped that Schizophrenics have super powers and I was able to communicate with other Schizophrenics via telepathy. Lol Sometimes it makes it worst for people.
I really loved Dr Marks' respectful way of discussing metabolic syndrome, some doctors aren't. Very insightful conversation on psychedelics and schizophrenia. I like that they're looking for alternatives as a lot of people find antipsychotics intolerable or tolerable but with big impacts on life and wellbeing. Hope they keep looking into it.
Treating schizophrenia with psychedelic is like treating lung cancer with Marlboro red ❤!!!!
They're talking about microdosing and small doses, combined with therapy session it might be helpful.
and your reason for asserting this is?
Psilocybin releases serotonin and has helped millions of people. Myself included.
What about St John's Wort? Doesnt it have efficacy on par with some SSRI antidepressants?
Kratom can cut through the lethargy and might help with depression. Personally I didn’t much like it on top of Paliperidone but it might be different on other AP’s
It is disheartening. Have been caretaker of my son for 25 years. No meds help in a good way. They just disable the person.
I am currently trying to help my brother get through his schizophrenic episodes without meds as I have seen the negative effects of the medications. Do you have any suggestions?
I have a 17 yr old son with a new onset of a mental illness due to marijuana.. any suggestions?
saffron (crocin) was found to have similar mechanism like fluoxetine and is effective the same study finds
Great
Psychedelics act on 5HT2A receptors and that is the reason it can trigger Psychotic episodes.
i like dr marks shirt.
Hi Lorren...need to know if you know of any Clinical Trials being done using alternative treatments in Canada? Need help badly for my 32yrs old son pleeeeease?
I heard a Russian psychologist found prolonged fasting really helped schizophrenia.
Is this the case