Piston return springs (good for 30 HP) - do they actually work?
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Piston return springs (good for 30 HP) - do they actually work?
try making a custom crankshaft and camshafts so that all four pistons fire at the same time
I actually really like this idea!
This needs more up-votes! That'll be one heck of a video.
It'd also be funny to see how out-of-balance the whole engine gets and how hard would it be to get it all balanced out.
Cody Wolf with the stock crank and custom cam you could make it into an odd firing pair... 1&4 fire, 180* later 2&3 fire, 540* cycle starts over.
You need to post it on Garaj 54 the russian one i doubt they ever check this one
Google flat plane cranks. Some V8s fire pairs of pistons. TVR used one in the Cerbera.
Ok, you got me. Went from "wtf" to "that can't work" to "how it that working" to "is that actually a thing for real wow" before getting to the punchline. Nicely done.
Chris was like april fools
garage 54's like what april fools
They don't have april in russia, it's always winter.
In mother russia, April fools you
Is always December in Moscow...
Okay so Im not the only one that knows that they are talking about Chris Fix's video lol.
Can we get Chris to view this video.
you should try horse leather belts in your engine for even more HORSE power
💯🤘
Or maybe try fixing horse shoes to the tires. The result is more power and more grip
Horse hair in the fuel tank
Just Make sure the belt is not pig skin, that would be bad, nobody wants a pig of a car.
Thomas LeMay Dude, a pig skin belt would make your car slower, no one would want that
If you also add muffler bearing you will get even more HP (but only if you have enough blinker fluid).
And don't forget to change your blinker fluid before winter.
more HP from the intake cyclone and better fuel from a few lead balls in the tank ... or mix diesel with snake oil.
Make sure to fill your tires with the correct air! you don't want to fill them with summer air while in winter!
You beat me to it. Funny stuff.
The yellow can not run on its own, because the spark reservoir is empty.
I’m so glad he is putting them in there to see what actually happens, was super curious to see what they would mess up
I’m 2 minutes in and he’s got me convinced these are a real thing
They are a thing but not in every car
Some cars use them
aprilia cross don’t, no
Same
Yep lmao
Had us in the first half, not gonna lie
4:27 *Garage 54's very own:* pet cockroach.
I saw that too.... Perhaps it gives them the ideas what to do next?
@@steeveedee8478 I think he's just there to feed on the spilled motor oil.
I saw it too !
@@Convolutedtubules they eat oil???
Epic!
That packaging looked like a legit scam, nice touch :-)
Reminded me of those things you plug into 12V socket and you save "UP TO 20%" on fuel xD
This is definitely a well put together joke
People really thought those 12v plug fuel savers worked, so people will also think the return springs will work 😂
@@Fetii Technically you can get them to "work" if you modify the shit out of the engine but you'd probably lose 30hp and the engine would last like 5 mins or so :-)
@@talictdf4757 work how? they often literally just a capacitor and a led.
@@Mr371312 I meant the springs.. and I put work in quotes for a reason :-)
Also this is the correct way to increase piston to head clearance. The springs gently lift the head up when the pistons are near TDC.
Not sure if you're smoking crack or not
Weird Russians,they have first of April in September.
Can you imagine living life as a Lada in Russia and knowing Garage 54 is out there.
ChrisFix: Hey guysssss.....that was meant as a joke.
Priveeet Chris (Xpuc)... GULAGs are full of jokes.
Hey guys, Chris Fix here and today we are going to be teaching you how to learn and understand satirical comedy with common hand-tools!
Lol.
I was like WTF.... then then it made sense when they said it is a joke. Lol
I saw the Chrisfix is version....
Comments: can you show how to make more HP
Garage54: yes
This only works if the BLINKER FLUID is topped off.
The crankcase ceiling light needs to be turned on as well
Davinky?
He also forgot to fill his tires up with winter air 🤓
@@Hopinmypony You only have to change the air in your tires in the summer, he didn't show us how to change to winter air 😅.
Don't forget about the radiator bearings too guys! 👻
Try to put those springs in a 2 stroke engine. There you have no valves :D
There you have almost zero clearance.
Not necessarily true, well usually not true even. While your intake is done through scavenge air ports in the liner your exhaust is still vented through valves. At least on anything I've worked on, ranging from Detroit diesels to EMDs marine engines. (And Wickmann and various other brands, they don't differ much in design)
@M-2 Hydra that would be even better because you could install a clear cylinder head
Double the power bands with polyurethane instead of elastic for a boost on torque and always use diesel spark plugs....
@@ColtaineCrows Thats on diesels, but gasoline 2 strokes really don't have valves. Exhaust ports are also in cylinder walls.
15:02 made in USA barcode and qr code. I died.
If you follow it it'll take you to instagram where there's a Russian caption that translated says "Congratulations! You are very attentive and saw my Easter egg!"
Nice!
Nice touch.
@Martyn Watson came back after 3 days
Im a retired mech and logically I knew this wouldnt work, but you guys do some crazy shit so ya got me!!!! Very funny Keep up the crazy workl love it and have turned on others here in the states
To me this episode is a special one, since I was actually there when they filmed it. Finally got the opportunity to meet with the guys from G54, for the first time since we started collaborating back in 2017. I even made a short cameo appearance (of the "blink and you'll miss it" variety).
Thanks for all your efforts translating Garage 54 for us english only speakers.
This has to be to funniest, tongue in check, episode ever!
Cheers Mate!
@@irgant о чём идёт речь, о каком эпизоде? Нет, с Алексеем по штатам ездил не я.
@@irgant а, так в этом видео и засветился - 11:48, выглядываем с Виктором из бокса
Can't believe I missed this post a year ago
ChrisFix did this as an April Fools thing lol
Only Russians have balls to test it
True lol he also had a video about blinker fluid
Don't forget the muffler bearing 😀
@@A86-t3y me to
@@A86-t3y i just wanted to go on criss channel and watch that video again and read comments
for 20 years I have been trying to teach my kids how to work on there engines. I always started with turn signal fluid and piston return springs. I actually had my oldest son believing that they existed(the boy could not even identify a screw driver) It took his older sister to ruin my joke. This was a wonderful video thank you.
“A fool and his money are easily parted” 🤣
For sure 👍💯
A fool and his money are soon partying.
You've got it all wrong. "A fool and his money are welcome everywhere."
I’m not even waiting till the end of the video I’m ordering them IMMEDIATELY
13:08 your engine has turned into a turkey
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Your experiments are matching the real world automobiles current needs practically and some straight forward devastating explanation is like cherry on the cake.
"Stop before you kill the starter!"
~does some more cause I WANT~
*Starts frantically turning the key to engage starter* 'Click, click, tick tick tick clunk tick, click'
I'd have done the same thing!
That box had me totally fooled. But I knew that such a thing couldn't work. So I was confused. Great video, guys. I miss your old garage.
Yeah, just as everyone else is saying, Chrisfix did it as a gag. There are not such things as piston return springs lol. But it does make for an interesting video nonetheless lol. :)
Dont Listen to this Liar! Probably a goon working for BIG OIL. Piston Return springs have been used for a long time, first developed by Prof. Dr. Taehc Duarf in Elbonia. They are a little known accessory that can improve milage by 50% Not more, not less.
@@Inesophet Lol sure dude..
@@digitalchaos1980 woosh
@@R4MP4G3RXD ?
I had to reread it again lol. I gotcha.
I was like wait is this a thing ? I watched as he claims it's awesome. My common sense says no this can't work how could the pistons go up and down? I saw it with my own eyes the packaging looked real . So i justified there must be space for them. So I hate to admit it but you got me.
The package that said USA LOL 🙄 Maybe if we could have seen that in the beginning only with Chyna on it?
Hey people buy pet rocks.lol
🐂🤠🏞️🛩️
Dude... he fooled me too... I've been thinking about it all day. They kinda would create the effect of having more compression but that would cancle out given the springs in the other cylinders... so yeah... been bamboozled
Next video: cutting pistons to actually fit piston return springs
Probally better to shorten the con-rods / weld the spring to piston. (unless its made of that alien metal, that is hard to spell, in relation to where you are...)
Pistons are hollow.
There are indentations in the pistons to allow space for the valves.. There is really nothing going to fit in there i think. 4:23
or attach them to the spring made conrods
You mean connecting rods
For such a long time I've watched these thinking I was watching a bunch of total muppet silly men... While I can't say that was entirely untrue, I can with a doubt say that these are some extremely extremely talented video makers! That box for the springs looked so legit... I almost couldn't believe it!!
4:28 That bug looked interested about that engine
@freezeme360 badum tsss
For those people still in doubt if this could work:
It can't, even if you could somehow install it into the cilinder and function.
The energy needed to compress the spring, comes from the energy from the other cilinders. So all the energy of a spring releasing wouldnt be enough to compress another spring, due to losses. That alone would mean the engine would run less good.
Added to that the loss of cilinder volume, which is also a negative, means you would lose a big amount of energy.
All motors are basically 'converters'. A combustion engine converts chemical energy to motion energy. A battery converts chemical energy to electrical energy. A windmill converts motion energy to electrical energy (modern), a nuclear plant converts atomic energy to heat to electrical energy, etc.
A combustion engine is a system (like above engines are systems). The energy has to come from somewhere and doesnt magically appear. It is either external, as for instance a sailing ship of windmill, or internal as for a combustion engine.
As for a spring; it doesnt convert energy. It stores energy. The energy needed to change its position (energy status) by x, is more than you get back when released to 'relaxed' state. Due to losses, which go to warmth (heating up the system).
Same goes for eleastic bands, flying wheels, etc.
Surprised it took so long for someone to post this. Any energy gained from pushing the piston would have been taken from the compression of the spring. And if the could fit, they would have been bouncing around binding up the valved and making a lada mess. The fact that they (might) be for sale on the Internet shows PT Barnum was correct: "Theres a sucker born every minute."
Nobody: ...
Some random guy looking at an engine schematic: s p r i n g
English: Try switching places with the engine aka the driver in the engine bay and the engine in the drivers seat
Russian: Попробуйте поменяться местами с двигателем, также известным как водитель, в моторном отсеке и двигателем на сиденье водителя.
Like if you agree and if you want to see this happen
I feel sorry for the cheese car lol. Y’all went all out for this joke with instructions and everything.
Yeah. We love the cheese car also
Well is not a joke they really put the springs inside
Emilio Fierro Yes they put them in the car but it was still a joke. They are not real products.
LOL....I couldn't figure out how the valves and pistons would clear those springs. Seemed impossible to me, glad you came clean in the end.
Thats one giant roach at 4:28!
Aghh haha
Looked for this comment lol
It's not just a "roach". It's a vital part of a lada engine.
Harder springs mean more HP
I scanned the QR code at the end, it was absolutely worth it
Made in USA..lmfao!!!!! I fell over laughing.. with love from Canadia
Export or go bust . Dad used to say ! :)
This is easily the best channel on the internet.
Open that up, let's see the damage!
I second that, wish they would of
It won't even start with the springs
Because of the valves
I must admit that because these videos are pretty short you guys had me going especially because they were in a box haha but hey the amount i actually learnt i put a rotary punp on a old car i used to race as a pre 80s vehicles and that gave some great results.
They do not work but they are a "Lada" fun. just as long as they are in someone else's engine!
Something didn't look right
When all the springs were put on they were all at the same level
The pistons should be at different heights in the cylinder head
No. Two pistons travel down and the other two up.
@@Rubensgardens.Skogsmuseum but looking at the video all 4 pistons are down if 2 pistons were up or down then 2 springs would be up or down basically what I'm seeing is all 4 pistons and springs are at the same level
Looks like the engine was turned to where the pistons were in the middle of their stroke, making them all at the same level.
OK, I just watched the first half of the video, I am off to my garage to put springs into my cylinders.
I think they will fit in my civic look out when vtec kicks in🤣
OK that game looks freaking epic, the 3D models of the guys are so great!
Normal spring material would lose its heat treat from the heat of the combustion chamber, so they are not acting as springs. At best all they would do increase your compression ration slightly.
The "Made in USA" was a nice touch.
The only reason it does not start is because the compression is too high now, the springs take up too much space in the combustion chamber rising the compression ratio...maybe drill a couple of holes in every piston!
I like the humour in your videos, well done.
*It would have been nice to see the engine after your funny spring attempts*
You nearly had me there. I thought 'this is a joke right?'. There is no need, or mechanical reason, for return springs. My first thought was, 'what about the combustion chamber and valve movement?'. Nice one guys. Very elaborate and well done. Nice touch. "Made in USA" LOL.
Ghaaa, you almost had me! I almost had a comment done pointing out that the resistence on the upstroke to compress the spring would offset any down gain, probably even a loss of power due to heat and friction.
I really wanted to see the engine afterwards
3mins in heat will turn them into a piece of soft wire and interfear with the valves So interesting to watch to the end. So love this channel always interesting always a laugh to be had. Love to work with these guys.❤
4:27 the cockroach
Glad you put the making-of bit at the end. I was about to google the product to see what kind of engine application there could possibly be where this thing would actually work in.
9:15 is when they actually put them in and RUN THE ENGINE FOR REAL with them
*My face when the QR reader actually beeps* 0_o Omg you guys really went for the small details! Good one :p
You know there is someone watching this thinking, 'Yah, what a great idea. Where can I get some?'
14:55 LMAO you guys are hilarious. I was already calling BS because any work used to compress the springs is lost power. I totally missed for a while that the pistons and valves would have no clearance! Fun prank.
we would love to see dyno results on stuff like this, just be glued to the screen for the results
Hi from New Zealand garage 54!! I think I may have seen it all now. Piston return springs!?!! Cant wait to see what the valves think of this. Oh congrats on the game. What a surprise!
LOL. I thought something was funny about that. I'm like "NO WAY!"
Its based on old mechanics jokes: piston return springs, break caliper grease, green blinker water, cylinder dome lights, Siemens air hooks, blue transmission sand....
Dam, I wished I'd watched to the end of the video before ordering and fitting my piston springs! 🤔😯😔😥
Always wanted to get a front wheel drive, 4 cylinder engine car and put another one in the trunk to the rear wheels. Love your work!
Suicide mx3
Aww man I was hoping to hear it run
Talk about a scam, piston springs putting equal force on all pistons does nothing haha. Great show, love it.
the amount of preparation for this project is astounding
edit: wow they are available on ebay Amazon and Craigslist i never woulda thought 🤣
Don't forget the cylinder inside illumination
What haven't got to watch will just soon as get a min but wow chris fix will love to see this
I think that those springs mayor work in a 2 stroke engine
Someone try this, lol. This one has got to see the aftermath.
One guy did this as a joke on April Fool's Day! So in foresight I was very suspicious and doubtful. But ChrisFix had me fooled the first time! Lol. It was fun too watch, you kind of had me when you did the first Lada and then reevaluate the nonsense with the second Lada. And then I thought.. Aha! You got me! Funny! Good laughs! Thanks for the fun! Amen!
Made in the USA, provided by Chris Fix XD
i had the idea of attaching spings to pistons and immediately looked for anyone who had done it
At least a hundred guys are now checking their Jegs, Summit, and JC Whitney catalogs 🤣.
God he makes everything look like it's so real
I got a set of those in "Chrissfix's brand" they are amazing.
This was awesome. I had another huge laugh on that closing bit - Made in U.S.A. LOL. On another note. LOVE LOVE LOVE the UAZ. Probably my favorite vehicle in your fleet. I legit want to get one imported to the U.S.
4:28 who else noticed the cockroach or whatever they got in Russia? 🤣
Since 2020 has straight-up been on bath salts I actually expected a search to bring Power-On piston return springs up as an actual product.
This joke can only be funny the first time around
i think its better that they actually did it.
The cockroach crawling at 4:28 did me in. My sides are now in orbit, luckily they have return springs.
This is a joke right?
@@A86-t3y What
So this is real lol?
STOKER fairly certain there’s not enough volume in between the pistons and head to put a spring that big
Could you imagine how fast the springs would wear out?
@@EM-fi2qg yeah thats true
Deez nutz are on your chin...
Love the Game and knowing the adds support you make it easier to live with. Much love👊🏻
Jk bought add free :D
Every Lada trembles in fear as it drives by Vlad and his shop :-)
No one else noticed those were for a big truck? The 4 cylinder springs should be 1/2 the height of those. Hopefully, they can return those for the right ones, and do it again! AND, they have to be sure to tighten to the proper number of ooga, oogas for proper torque on the bolts!
Okay, I seriously love that cheese car, epic weight reduction.
These springs inserted in the combustion chamber will raise the compression ration. Pistons will need decked down a bit to allow for this.
I've read that this is an April Fool's joke from the 50's if it's true I have no idea but awesome that someone has come up with this crazy idea.
I'm impressed with the work they put into making the fake product packaging.
You can also increase the flow efficiency of burnt gases by cutting off the end of the valves.
Everyone is wrong, saying that it works only if blinker fluid is good, it is actually the turbocharged frontwheel that needs to be in good shape for it to work
I might need to buy a few piston return spring kits. they will make perfect gifts.
I had a crazy idea! I watched in many old films, how they put potatoes in the exhaust of someone car so it cannot start. It Will be interesting if you try it.
I have to say, your video is more convincing as Chris fix video. With the box and all👌😂. Very well done, you put a lot of effort in this video. This was very funny. Think a lot of noobs was looking for "piston return springs", 😜. Very entertaining and funny...
10:37
dad yells. "stop turning it before you blow out the starter!" THE KID does it 4 more times and smiles at the camera lmao!
The power of explosion can be way more than any spring. That is what returns the piston to the bottom of it's stroke.
excellent video as always. Now im no scilientologist, but i dont think newton is gonna let you add power with springs. unless the compression stroke has energy to lose i suppose youd be losing energy during the compression stroke leaving you with the same amount of power as before. a piston in the power stroke is still parallel to a piston on an exhaust stroke working against the tension in the spring... yes?
EDIT: Lmao i just finished the video, i got pranked.