I've been using traktor 4 for a week now and I have to say the following, the main future I was expecting was the flexible beatgrid and I'm disappointed with them. positives: 1) the ozone maximizer is brilliant! traktor always had the best sound quality, compared to other software's by far! now... whoaw! my mind was blown, better than ever! very useful in our work! 2) pattern players are amazing, all this drum machine's are great for live remix, amazing tool for us techno DJs! they work perfectly with amazing sound quality. takes you to the next level of your dj abilities! 3) no subscription model. 4) stems negatives: 1) flexible beatgrid we waited many years for traktor and unfortunately it is pure disappointment because you have to do them manually, they should have been at least automatic, after so many years of waiting, I expected it to be something like...2.5 beatgrid generation. check out DJ PRO's liquid beatgrid THIS IS A GAME CHANGER!! this is the main reason DJ PRO is selling like crazy. the first thought I would work to update if I were NATIVE INSTRUMENTS would be to bring BEATGRID 3.0 2) NATIVE INSTRUMENTS please for many years to bring us new hardware! now is the time! we want a new Z2, we need deck's something like the Denon LC 6000 would be perfect for the traktor, we want new modular controllers, controllers.
3) we need a lot of new hardware to be plug n play with TRAKTOR, finally wake up and collaborate with other companies!! NATIVE must to start making .tsi files for as many 3rd party hardware controllers as possible !
I'm happy with my Z2, tbh I don't care for a new mixer. Some decks would be cool but, why switch from pioneer when they're what you're going to find at every single c lub/rave? Auto beat stretch would be cool but manually, at least it's there.
@@djcetra Z2 is excellent mixer but the problem is that it hasn't been in production for years and unfortunately they haven't made a replacement, if it breaks, like mine, you can't get a new one and that's a problem. since there are no spare parts anymore they are very limited , whatever you findin stock.the other problem is that it was the only battle mixer for traktor.
True while you can not batch process Stems in Traktor 4 you can however process many files to be processed one after another like queueing. While processing one file I wanted to see if I could process more, so I clicked on another file to generate stems while the previous file was still generating. I did the process about four more times. The outcome was great when one file finished the other started automatically it continued this cycle without any additional interaction from me until all songs were completed "Queueing". It uses a lot of CPU but, this method works just set it and forget, and it will complete the task. I have not tried to do more than 10 files in my testing. I'm sure I will steadily increase the number to see if there is a breaking point.
To clarify you "CANNOT" right-click on "Any" Music file to generate Stems. The STEM GENERATOR feature is accessible once you import tracks into Traktor in your Track Collection or playlists. Outside that those folders the Stems option is not present!
Doesn't make sense All my music is analysed in the collection But I use the OS explorer folders all the time, to not have DJ playlists locked toa DJ software
I wish it was easier to queue up tracks to generate stems. If you go one by one you can do it, but that's it. I wish you could highlight a bunch and have it add all the selected tracks to the queue
I have been a Traktor user since 2012. I am about to jump ship to serato. I currently am using rane twelves mk2s and seventy a-trak. They work with Traktor, but they are somewhat limited. I used a z2 for years but had to get a new mixer and native instruments still hasnt released an mk2 version. Also, I have had issues with tracks taking a long time to load and almost crashing traktor. I figure I will make the decision to switch in the next few weeks.
Thank you! Does anyone know how to actually get the stem audios individually? Like separated mp3 files for each stem? Been trying using other software but can't find a clear way
Just wish the flexible beat grids were a bit more easy to use. Definitely feel NA are a few years behind. AI can analyse a track and sort out all of the BPM issues for you!
Hi! Are you saying that for old disco that use tempos instead of beats we have to add markers every 4 beats for the entire song? You know some of those old 12" records can be 15 minutes long, or more. Isn't that a bit tedius? Does anyone have any other suggestions for mixing disco with today's dance music?
Unfortunately, the market leader is still not able to display the waveform cleanly in the parallel view. But since the problem was brought over from Pro 3 and was advertised so grandly when it was introduced, it's a bit of an indictment. Others have been able to do this better for years. Unfortunately, this also applies to stem integration. Others have been able to do this for a long time and are still significantly better. I was really looking forward to Pro 4, but unfortunately I was very disappointed. I hope NI finds its way back to its old strength!
I have a problem. at the same bpm, but changing beat grid in another area of the song (withount bpm, just a beat grid point different) at another time of the song....i'm getting a big shit, it's changing the bpm of the song of the other beatgrid points....it's a bug or i don't understand me how to do this without changing the bpm of the other beatgrid point.
Traktor Pro 3 and now 4 have many problems and things I would like to see changed or added functionality. Problems: 1. When you set C&D as remix decks and add drops(one shot) Auto setting doesn't work to mark one as the master automatically. Then manually setting it to Master only works if you don't scratch with the Master deck. Constantly while loading different tracks, you must keep setting which deck is master. This is a pain because sometimes you forget. 2. When you set up your decks the way you like, effects, setting up the decks, as either track, remix, or stems deck; upon closing the out of Trakor looks like it saves your setup, When you open that assumption is entirely false. You have to each time set up the interface this is also a pain. 3. Also while you have four decks set up A&B track decks, C&D remix decks, and go into settings and select only two deck layouts (A&B) use sync the tempo sliders will not work once you disable sync. 4. Traktor Pro 4 "KILLED" the initial beat grid white marker if you reset the grid 5. Accessing a network drive in Traktor Pro 4 does work it gets stuck at saying (Loading Sub Directories) This was addressed TP3 with external hard drives and Network drives. 6. Setting the effects to Pattern Player and I'm using the S3 controller, the Pattern Player sounds like a metronome
It would be great to be do stems how they have it on the fly. They have by far surpassed Serato DJ with the stems. For now they should do it just vocals and instrumental to start.
Should I wait for the S4 mk4 or just buy the mk3? I wonder if the mk4 will come out anytime soon. It would be awful to get the mk3 right before the mk4 comes out. What would you do in my situation?
hi 🙏 i'm going to use the new m3 macbook air for dj with traktor if i still use hdd external hard drive (not ssd) to play the music file to do the mix will it work well ？ will it slow down the whole m3 macbook air Performance ?🙏
If you download and buy DJ studio and put a song in that's off tempo the AI option will do it for you. Save the track and your good to go. Something TRAKTOR should implement
Kinda low down how they released this new version IMMEDIATELY after the HALF OFF summer sale ended. I have been a customer since the early versions but on principle I will wait for a discount.
So someone can go purchase the same S2 MK3 I bought with Traktor Pro 3 for the same $339 USD and get Traktor Pro 4 "included" but, NI wants me to pay $74.99 to upgrade????
No need to rely on syncing; ride the groove old school. Many DJs depend on syncing, making their set sound stale and robotic. Try dancing to the groove instead - you be more entertaining. Just saying 😊
I have had Traktor for over 15 years. Interesting that I get the upgrade information from UA-cam and not when I open my software. Tips for the board on Native instruments. Fire all middle managers because they are pure shit.
lol what a joke, no one's going to stand there DJ'ing while clicking the screen for different Stems changes, this company doesn't even make their software suited for the controllers they have out, speaking of when is the last time they launched one!? djayPro's grid matching is superior. The drum kit patterns are nice.
Yeah stems overrated. I mean trying to isolate frequencies with good EQ software is an art. For me not that attractive though sure for some could be a part of creative force 😊
I've been using traktor 4 for a week now and I have to say the following, the main future I was expecting was the flexible beatgrid and I'm disappointed with them.
positives:
1) the ozone maximizer is brilliant! traktor always had the best sound quality, compared to other software's by far! now... whoaw! my mind was blown, better than ever! very useful in our work!
2) pattern players are amazing, all this drum machine's are great for live remix, amazing tool for us techno DJs! they work perfectly with amazing sound quality.
takes you to the next level of your dj abilities!
3) no subscription model.
4) stems
negatives:
1) flexible beatgrid we waited many years for traktor and unfortunately it is pure disappointment because you have to do them manually, they should have been at least automatic, after so many years of waiting, I expected it to be something like...2.5 beatgrid generation.
check out DJ PRO's liquid beatgrid THIS IS A GAME CHANGER!!
this is the main reason DJ PRO is selling like crazy.
the first thought I would work to update if I were NATIVE INSTRUMENTS would be to bring BEATGRID 3.0
2) NATIVE INSTRUMENTS please for many years to bring us new hardware!
now is the time!
we want a new Z2, we need deck's something like the Denon LC 6000 would be perfect for the traktor, we want new modular controllers, controllers.
3) we need a lot of new hardware to be plug n play with TRAKTOR, finally wake up and collaborate with other companies!!
NATIVE must to start making .tsi files for as many 3rd party hardware controllers as possible !
@spirosbulk good point bruv ,I hope native instrument are taking notes,what fans want especially new gear like a prime 4 +
I'm happy with my Z2, tbh I don't care for a new mixer.
Some decks would be cool but, why switch from pioneer when they're what you're going to find at every single c lub/rave?
Auto beat stretch would be cool but manually, at least it's there.
@@djcetra Z2 is excellent mixer but the problem is that it hasn't been in production for years and unfortunately they haven't made a replacement, if it breaks, like mine, you can't get a new one and that's a problem. since there are no spare parts anymore they are very limited , whatever you findin stock.the other problem is that it was the only battle mixer for traktor.
@@spirosbulkare you talking about algorithm dj pro?
@@Philbrazil yes, my friend.
I love traktor! Is the best software for TECHNO DJ!!
What if you're not a Techno DJ?
Great software for sample/loop manipulation & effects for live performance wild!
Traktor has been the best software I’ve used and I’ve used them all
This is the best news, love Traktor since i statrted and been using stems from 3rd party software but its now in house so a lot better.
Having to prepare it 1st sucks, I prefer totally in the moment not planned 🎉
traktor is the best
True while you can not batch process Stems in Traktor 4 you can however process many files to be processed one after another like queueing. While processing one file I wanted to see if I could process more, so I clicked on another file to generate stems while the previous file was still generating. I did the process about four more times. The outcome was great when one file finished the other started automatically it continued this cycle without any additional interaction from me until all songs were completed "Queueing". It uses a lot of CPU but, this method works just set it and forget, and it will complete the task. I have not tried to do more than 10 files in my testing. I'm sure I will steadily increase the number to see if there is a breaking point.
You can adjust the volume and pitch in the stem by pressing the pad below the desired track and using encoder 1 or 2 above the pad.
so its possible to control the stems from something like a kontrol 4 and not by mouse as shown ?
To clarify you "CANNOT" right-click on "Any" Music file to generate Stems. The STEM GENERATOR feature is accessible once you import tracks into Traktor in your Track Collection or playlists. Outside that those folders the Stems option is not present!
Which makes sense
Doesn't make sense
All my music is analysed in the collection
But I use the OS explorer folders all the time, to not have DJ playlists locked toa DJ software
It will be nice to see the new NI controllers that are designed with Pro 4 in mind.
I wish it was easier to queue up tracks to generate stems. If you go one by one you can do it, but that's it. I wish you could highlight a bunch and have it add all the selected tracks to the queue
I just wish traktor can create a mapping for prime for 4+ like serato do
So far your explanation is the best 👌 👍
I have been a Traktor user since 2012. I am about to jump ship to serato. I currently am using rane twelves mk2s and seventy a-trak. They work with Traktor, but they are somewhat limited. I used a z2 for years but had to get a new mixer and native instruments still hasnt released an mk2 version. Also, I have had issues with tracks taking a long time to load and almost crashing traktor. I figure I will make the decision to switch in the next few weeks.
have you done the change ?
Thank you! Does anyone know how to actually get the stem audios individually? Like separated mp3 files for each stem? Been trying using other software but can't find a clear way
the f1 as step squencer its stil working with traktor pro 4?
Yes
can u please tell me is there any online ai website can upload to and fix the beatgrid for all old disco (all type) music on beat ? 🙏🙏
Manual clicking and setting gonna be the only way you can really trust
Would love to be shown im wrong though! I haven’t deep dived
Just wish the flexible beat grids were a bit more easy to use. Definitely feel NA are a few years behind. AI can analyse a track and sort out all of the BPM issues for you!
Hi! Are you saying that for old disco that use tempos instead of beats we have to add markers every 4 beats for the entire song? You know some of those old 12" records can be 15 minutes long, or more. Isn't that a bit tedius? Does anyone have any other suggestions for mixing disco with today's dance music?
You're going to have to switch DJ software.
you only need it around the places you would transition or hot cue loops, does that help?
On the pattern player. Can I load my own drum kits??? Or can I only use the standard kits that’s available??? Thanks!!!
great news thank you!
Unfortunately, the market leader is still not able to display the waveform cleanly in the parallel view.
But since the problem was brought over from Pro 3 and was advertised so grandly when it was introduced, it's a bit of an indictment. Others have been able to do this better for years. Unfortunately, this also applies to stem integration. Others have been able to do this for a long time and are still significantly better.
I was really looking forward to Pro 4, but unfortunately I was very disappointed. I hope NI finds its way back to its old strength!
Traktor is fun 😊
Just copped the upgrade on Guitar Center for under 40
I have a problem. at the same bpm, but changing beat grid in another area of the song (withount bpm, just a beat grid point different) at another time of the song....i'm getting a big shit, it's changing the bpm of the song of the other beatgrid points....it's a bug or i don't understand me how to do this without changing the bpm of the other beatgrid point.
Happening with me as well & there are lots users with the same complain. Not sure if its a bug or we are missing out on something.
Traktor Pro 3 and now 4 have many problems and things I would like to see changed or added functionality.
Problems:
1. When you set C&D as remix decks and add drops(one shot) Auto setting doesn't work to mark one as the master automatically. Then manually setting it to Master only works if you don't scratch with the Master deck. Constantly while loading different tracks, you must keep setting which deck is master. This is a pain because sometimes you forget.
2. When you set up your decks the way you like, effects, setting up the decks, as either track, remix, or stems deck; upon closing the out of Trakor looks like it saves your setup, When you open that assumption is entirely false. You have to each time set up the interface this is also a pain.
3. Also while you have four decks set up A&B track decks, C&D remix decks, and go into settings and select only two deck layouts (A&B) use sync the tempo sliders will not work once you disable sync.
4. Traktor Pro 4 "KILLED" the initial beat grid white marker if you reset the grid
5. Accessing a network drive in Traktor Pro 4 does work it gets stuck at saying (Loading Sub Directories) This was addressed TP3 with external hard drives and Network drives.
6. Setting the effects to Pattern Player and I'm using the S3 controller, the Pattern Player sounds like a metronome
Can the UI be changed to a lighter skin and is there a vinyl stop/break feature that Serato has?
The fact that the stem need to be elaborated before is great for the owners of old laptop.
It would be great to be do stems how they have it on the fly. They have by far surpassed Serato DJ with the stems. For now they should do it just vocals and instrumental to start.
the old D2 work with this TRAKTOR PRO 4?
Much better to prepare before cause after it's created it more solid, I think.
Are you using a Traktor Kontrol S2 MK3?
hey ,, 1 question ? any new mapping for Denon in this Version ? thx
Should I wait for the S4 mk4 or just buy the mk3? I wonder if the mk4 will come out anytime soon. It would be awful to get the mk3 right before the mk4 comes out. What would you do in my situation?
wait for new kontroler in 2025... Traktor S8 it's very very good for stems, but it's no new (i heave 2 x S8)
How you listen to music or upload
hi 🙏 i'm going to use the new m3 macbook air for dj with traktor
if i still use hdd external hard drive (not ssd) to play the music file to do the mix
will it work well ？ will it slow down the whole m3 macbook air Performance ?🙏
If you download and buy DJ studio and put a song in that's off tempo the AI option will do it for you. Save the track and your good to go. Something TRAKTOR should implement
great Video ! THX :)
It Is compatible with ddj flx10?
Can I ask what laptop you’re using please and specs??
DJAY ... Live Stems for several years... :))))))
Kinda low down how they released this new version IMMEDIATELY after the HALF OFF summer sale ended. I have been a customer since the early versions but on principle I will wait for a discount.
Facts
dont you get a discount on upgrades though, so you dont pay that much more
I don't know about yall, but the update has really messed up my Remix decks
Thank you
Cool
😲🔥
So someone can go purchase the same S2 MK3 I bought with Traktor Pro 3 for the same $339 USD and get Traktor Pro 4 "included" but, NI wants me to pay $74.99 to upgrade????
It don’t work for mp3 files it works just for stem tracks that originally made as a stem
Whattttt? That is whack af.
su , wrong asf
They have always been the best with stems from day 1 to be real
They just took their time on it
Unlike all the other dj softwares
They used to be innovative but even with the update are way behind. Probably too little too late imo.
👏👏👏
No need to rely on syncing; ride the groove old school. Many DJs depend on syncing, making their set sound stale and robotic. Try dancing to the groove instead - you be more entertaining. Just saying 😊
Who is the winner for the previous video on winning Pioneer DDJ FLX4. Not heard who won or anything in your social network!! 👎
me too I think it was a scam
and if you want to play some classics is better just find quantized remixes
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I have had Traktor for over 15 years. Interesting that I get the upgrade information from UA-cam and not when I open my software. Tips for the board on Native instruments. Fire all middle managers because they are pure shit.
I got an e-mail from Traktor telling me about it two weeks ago & when I opened my NI Updater it was also there..
Middle management destroys so many companies.
Of fucking course as soon as I buy a rane four this happens hahaha
Ehh es all good
Wow. Two weeks late to the party. Crossfader in summer vacation?
traktor fell off hard it aint never getting that trust back
lol what a joke, no one's going to stand there DJ'ing while clicking the screen for different Stems changes, this company doesn't even make their software suited for the controllers they have out, speaking of when is the last time they launched one!?
djayPro's grid matching is superior.
The drum kit patterns are nice.
Yeah stems overrated. I mean trying to isolate frequencies with good EQ software is an art. For me not that attractive though sure for some could be a part of creative force 😊
this update is a joke
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