One of the only... Not the only.... Despite what the ultra smurf want you to think the Sons of Russ have always valued human life and often a time risked, life limb, and planet for this cause. Something they inherited from their Gene father Leman.... *queues some SW hater talking about a one-sided Prospero burns*
Nah, I ask about the Primarchs and the Emperor, how can they empathize with humanity when they were never truly a part of it ? Vulcan is the exception that proves the rule.
@@KaiserAfini They choose not to empathise because they realise they transcend humanity and are no longer human; keeping in lmind most grew up with human populations and shared there cause as their own, fuly empathising with the plight of the inhabitants. Best known for this were mortarion, vulcan, russ, sanguinius, dorn, etc..... its just really angron, and curze were
@@ADB_UWIM_2807 To draw a parallel, there was this small bit in Avatar:TLAB where Yangchen says "the Avatar must be compassionate towards all people and the only way to do that is to live amongst them". Its the Avatar is reborn as a human, to maintain empathy using firsthand experience. The Emperor and primarchs never observed that bit, probably because of the mess they set out to unify. They centralized power, knowledge and authority. It meant they were capable of rapid response, but they had no one who was trained carry the torch as well if they were gone. They even scattered all other sources of scientific blueprints, which made for half effective contingencies (knowledge wasn't corrupted, but was lost instead). So when they left a power vacuum, the Imperium was forced to rebuild whilst stumbling in the dark. At least that is what my initial studies of the lore indicate.
Remember when Vulcan got thrown into a volcano when the salamanders returned his body to nocturne, with the spear still in him, and came back a few days later without a scratch
Vulkan is still around, absolutely. He's waiting for his sons to finish their badass scavenger hunt, and then he'll show up and help his sons burn the hell out of heretics. Oh, and he'd help the new Primaris Salamanders make even cooler specialized weapons.
Vulkan Lives !! Thank you very much for this christmas gift, the lack of Salamander content on your channel always desturbed me. I think he lives, GW purposefully kept his fate in the dark, and if you are a perpetual, surviving an orkinfested planet is a matter of time. Sometimes the easy answer is the right one, you had to make a whole case why he is not a perpetual anymore... In the wake of returning Primarchs, I think Vulkan will return, maybe as a Primarch leading the marshal forces, while Girlyman can reform the empire. This would play in Vulkans mind, being disillusioned by the empire before he vanished. If Vulkan is alive, this is the time for his return.
True sons of Nocturne know that our gene-father is not so brittle as to be broken on the limp knees of Xenos green skins. Unto the Anvil of battle, brothers. Unto the fires of war!! VULKAN LIVES!! *stomping intensifies*
Oh throne of Terra Philosoraptor......okay Warsmith time. While it is possible to destroy a perpetual we have now constantly seen Vulkan return time and again. The theoretical and practical that we need to take into consideration is time....The destruction of Vulkan's physical form may have been just that, while Perpetuals can recover rapidly we also know that Vulkan was an engineered perpetual, the situation after the fulgurite spear could have significantly changed his biology. In truth his essence may very well be trapped beneath the surface of Ullanor. The planet literally is an eternal magnet for the horrors of the galaxy, we know that the Ork's will always return due to it being their homeworld, and we are fully aware that Angron wished to defile the legacy of the Emperors last victory. Hell for all we know once Angron and Ghazkghull set foot upon the planet and tear it up some more whatever is holding Vulkan prisoner might shatter. Now that I think about it, there is an individual who would actively be able to trap Vulkan's essence until he was needed again...theoretically Eldrad might be keeping Vulkan on standby for just such an emergency. Given what they Ynnari managed to do for Roboute it certainly is not outside the realm of possibility, and the Lord of Drakes did consider the Farseer a friend (hence the tooth given as a symbol of friendship in the beast arises series).
@@usvplaylist8758 Two examples of Perpetuals who died for the last time are Malcador and Ollanius Pius. In both cases their death is related to the fact not only their body but also their soul has been destroyed.
@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 There's nothing indicating Malcador was a perpetual. He lived a long time thanks to his knowledge in psyker life extension but we dont know how long hes been around or how long he would have lasted.
@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 Also Damon Pritanis who Eldrad killed with the Fulgurite bullets......yes that actually happened (Throne I hate Old Earth)
Yay I made it before two hours! I just got done with the last two videos, amazing stuff as always 40K Theories :D (you actually have inspired me to play tabletop Adeptus Mechanicus and I enjoyed it!) oh and happy Sanguinala Eve! :D
He's a perpetual, it'd take more than a bunch of Prime-Orks to truly kill him, Sanguinius and Ferrus Manus are confirmed dead, Big Papa Ultrasmurf is back and the others are still unaccounted for. | 2:00 - Not a good thing to be in the company of fiction's most horrific version of Batman. | 3:40 - The sons of Rogal Dorn don't go down easily. | 9:50 - Ah, 40K Nightwing. | 10:30 - A gamma-irradiated Conan the Barbarian.
Even if Vulkan is truly dead I believe that the nine artifacts of Vulkan when brought together will bring the Primarch back in his prime, with his perpetual nature restored. Even if it is but a Legend, Legends do have some corelation with reality and this is 40k we are talking about, so I do believe that.......... VULKAN LIVES! *stomps twice*
A bit of a stretch but I can see the reasoning behind it. But it only makes sense from the pov of certain groups within the universe. From an audience perspective, if they had wanted to actually kill him off they would have left little doubt as to his loss of perpetual status. Like Sanguinius and the "he knew he would die and he still fought Horus" they would have capitalised on that for a better story. In my mind GW wanted to make use of Vulkan to progress the story but at the same time attempt to retain the mystery that has always surrounded his fate, while at the same time not contradicting the Salamnders whole lore and reason for being. Good day, sir! lol
If the Primarch's soul can survive the death of the physical body, then there is always a chance of bringing Vulkan back, whether within the body of a clone, or the soul entering the body of a Dreadnought or other Mechanical entity. It would make sense that the Emperor himself would know for sure if this is true or not, and take the steps necessary to definitively answer this question once and for all. Thanks for sharing. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!
This is going to sound stupid but I personally really like the way that TTS handled it. The idea that because Waagh energy is a psychic field, Vulkan basically got doused in the entirety of a gestalt consciousness and warped into a half-orc, half-primarch being. And indeed since Vulkan seemed to view himself as unkillable, if he DID become part-gestalt then perhaps his own belief in that unendingness would result in him truly being a perpetual, although through a unique method.
40k theories. I have a theory. What if after the explosion with the Beast, only a small fragment of Vulkan survived and was collected by Trashy the Incontinent (Trayzin the Infinite). By the time Bill (Fabious Bile) entered Trayzin’s home and offers the clone of Fulgrim, the piece or pieces of Vulkan were barely starting to regenerate but very slowly. By the time Cadia broke before the Guard did, Vulkan finally healed and saved Creed. Possibly explaining the tall man with scales.
Foolish of you to think that Trashy the Incontinent would be so foolish as to allow a Rare Collector's Edition 'Vulkan Soul Fragment' to mend itself, merge with a one-of-a-kind 'Fulgrim's Clone', and escape the huge museum that is his collection, in order to save Creed. He may be Trashy the Incontinent, but incontinence is *not* stupidity. He'll probably stop Vulkan by threatening the people in his collection, and then stasis fielding Vulkan. Granted, Trashy wouldn't *actually* risk harm to anyone in his collection... But Vulkan doesn't know that, and in the 41st Millennium, compassion is nothing but a weakness to be exploited at every opportunity.
I read somewhere that after giving that Talisman to the Emperor he was somehow sealed inside the Golden Throne to act as like a weapon if it should ever fall. So I don't think he's truly gone just sealed away to serve as a last ditch survivor and trigger for a weapon designed to weaken Chaos using something like the radiant worlds and Firetide.
I really doubt he is dead, someone of Vulkan's resilience cannot be vanquished so easily, similar to how Jack's supposed death in Samurai Jack S2E12 Jack and the Spartans as quoted by the Spartan King Leonidas "the 300 plus 1,....but I believe the one survived, a warrior that powerful could not be stopped so easily", he is the bearer of flame of humanity, an icon of all that is good and decent in human souls, When the time is right the Lord of Drakes shall return,
Great video. It slightly pissed me off, but it was great. Also, if GW announces they've killed off Vulkan, I'll flippin' lose my last straw of patience with them. How grimdark do you have to be?!
to be honest given the weirdness of how interactions with the orks can be it is most likely the orks continued to think Vulkan was a perpetual and if his perpetual energy was lost the orks would have restored it due to how they work and the reason i think this is. is how orks despite being orks hold the emperor and the primarchs as extremely powerful beings and some have shown immortality such as Vulkan giving the orks reason to believe Vulkan can not die and as such he still lives somewhere.
A wonderful video of Vulkan. I was wondering if you've done a video on how people become tech priests through the mechanicum and space marine chapters?
I dunno, I feel like Vulkan could still be a perpetual. John Grammaticus lost his perpetuality because he channeled all of it away, presumably also being how fulgurite is capable of killing a perpetual in the first place, but John Grammaticus was not a ‘true’ perpetual so the trait wasn’t part of his genetics, it was implanted in him through his resurrection. Vulkan, however, seemingly had his perpetuality encoded in his DNA by the emperor, meaning even when he had his immortality ‘drained’ he was still genetically predisposed to it, therefore he could still have regained it at any number of points, be it through his first resurrection, through his regeneration at the golden throne (what I believe to be most likely) or through soaking up a bunch of waagh energy. I don’t think GW would include Vulkan’s status as a perpetual only to drop it, it’s only been utilised a handful of instances outside of its initial discovery. It would feel like a bit of a waste to have Vulkan return and then just say “oh yeah btw I’m not immortal anymore”
DUDE!!!!!!!! what part of "VULKAN LIVES" don't you understand? -_- XD as always an awesome video. You should really consider doing an audiobook with all your 40k videos compiled into them. :)
The thing is a perpetual can also reincarnate if their body is destroyed. John grammaticus did as did others. But Vulcan regenerated from one of his son's bodies in a volcano so for reincarnation to occur certain conditions must be met. But a perpetual is one because their soul does not disperse in the warp so can be recalled given conditions are met. So even if his body is annihilated he can resurrect. That's what the scavenger hunt is likely setting up the needed conditions for him to be reborn, likely from one of his son's who sacrifices his life, as before.
I feel like maybe there's something just out of my memory's reach that involved Vulkan on Ullanor during the Great Crusade. Though I am quite sure you would have found it if there had been.
Considering that the 'deaths' the militia managed to see would have been only a fraction of fatal events thar Vulkan experienced, i find it hard to believe even a primarch could have survived that kind of long solo conflict with hordes of orks without still being a perpetual. Plus all the dangers the powers of chaos and other threats would have sent after him between then and having left his legion.
In the same novel of old earth Vulkan is hinted at still being immortal since the emporer states he is the only primarch that could hold back the tides of chaos. I'm assuming because he's still immortal and if he were to fall he would return to keep holding the gate.
Based on how the warp works would the salamanders and people of caldera along with the perpetual nature of vulkan perhaps mean a way for him to live on in the warp as an echo? Not truly him but the memory of him. And if not now, maybe in time as long as both the salamanders keep up hope for his return and calderans believe in him
i think we all know where Vulkan is hiding: in a dark corner of the salamander monastery, waiting to for the day where he can hug passionatelly hug everyone of his millions of friends
Only Dawnbringer had a teleporter built in. Urdrakule (which Vulkan used as he journeyed through the webway) was able to immolate Doomtremor (which he used during the War of the Beast) could absorb discharges from energy weapons and redirect them at his attacker. This hammer did _not_ have a teleporter.
40K Theories well there goes my idea of him blowing up the place and teleporting out, also I found your channel like a week ago I love your videos! You rock!
It doesn't matter if he wasn't a perpetual, Vulkan's skin is stupidly heat resistant and would of likely absorbed the heat from the blast thus sparing him. You also have to realize the fact that if the Beast survived so would Vulkan.
So perptuals can not be killed conventionally and can use their perpetual energy like a weapon? So, does that make them more like Highlanders or Timelords?
You answered your own question. But for a more of a lore answer, with the Imperium all fucked up as it is, they needed something to balance the beating humans are taking, so they needed a Primarch back that would make the biggest difference, given the circumstances. That Primarch is Guilliman, since he is the better one to rule a gigantic empire while simultaneously taking care of the logistics of a galaxy spanning war.
I prefer the notion that he was sitting in a corner of his workshop really into painting some Battlemace 42,000,000 miniatures and no one noticed because that corner was very dark for some reason.
Meep Changeling Vulcan and Corax are painting warhammer figurines. But on a serious note do the primarchs/leaders paint warhammer figurines? For like battle strategy
The Emperor's reference to true death was metaphoric. Until we have evidence of Vulkan not being a perpetual, he is what we knew him as. . . a perpetual.
I have 2 questions, Remleiz. 1)Does a perpetual automatically come back or can they choose not to come back 2) can a perpetual come back from anything or does there have to be a living cell to regenerate from?
I'd argue that Vulcan's mind might have fused with ork energy enabling him to have their crazy durability. Imagine Vulcan coming back as a weird Primarch Warboss combo!
I mean, if they can bend time and space to restore chief blueberry, it doesn't take much of a leap at all to bring back a guy with a track record of regenerating from everything.
Is there the possibility that, since Vulkan is not a perpetual anymore he carry a emergency teleportation device such as Amberley Vail in Ciaphas Cain books explaining his survival at explosives and falling buildings. and explain the sentence " he always returned, never close to where we thought he'd died. Always somewhere else "
Angron did also get a Fortress in the head in one of the first books when the Astartes was figthing the Auretian Technocracy. Nice video as always... Vulkan will return if GW wants him to
Anyone else realize the irony of the one Perpetual Primarch being the only Primarch to value human life?
It's because he is a perpetual that he such a good person. He does not risk dying to protect others, so he might as well save them all.
One of the only... Not the only....
Despite what the ultra smurf want you to think the Sons of Russ have always valued human life and often a time risked, life limb, and planet for this cause. Something they inherited from their Gene father Leman....
*queues some SW hater talking about a one-sided Prospero burns*
Nah, I ask about the Primarchs and the Emperor, how can they empathize with humanity when they were never truly a part of it ? Vulcan is the exception that proves the rule.
@@KaiserAfini They choose not to empathise because they realise they transcend humanity and are no longer human; keeping in lmind most grew up with human populations and shared there cause as their own, fuly empathising with the plight of the inhabitants. Best known for this were mortarion, vulcan, russ, sanguinius, dorn, etc..... its just really angron, and curze were
@@ADB_UWIM_2807 To draw a parallel, there was this small bit in Avatar:TLAB where Yangchen says "the Avatar must be compassionate towards all people and the only way to do that is to live amongst them". Its the Avatar is reborn as a human, to maintain empathy using firsthand experience. The Emperor and primarchs never observed that bit, probably because of the mess they set out to unify. They centralized power, knowledge and authority. It meant they were capable of rapid response, but they had no one who was trained carry the torch as well if they were gone.
They even scattered all other sources of scientific blueprints, which made for half effective contingencies (knowledge wasn't corrupted, but was lost instead). So when they left a power vacuum, the Imperium was forced to rebuild whilst stumbling in the dark. At least that is what my initial studies of the lore indicate.
Vulkan LIVES! *stomp stomp*
*VULKAN LIVES!* */Stomp stomp/*
Vulkan is dead! Again!
@@jessegd6306 Cruel galaxy, thee grim darkness knows no bounds!!
What have you done to our precious lord Lava Nugget! YOU RUFFIANS!
@@kevinkellyantonio3040 I know what I want to do. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
YOU ARE WEAK VULKAAAAAAAANNN
If Vulkan IS alive, he's exactly where Corax, Russ, Dorn, and Khan are. The eternal limbo of GW plot stalling.
... we got a hint of where Corax is and what has become of him.
Same with Sanguinius.
Sanguinius IS DEAD, killed by Fucking Horus on Vengeful Spirit.
Yep, they haven't touched their 40k shit in decades.
@@Ballagorn_Ironblood Wonder where is Sanguinius spirit then.
but but
VULKAN LIVES
STOMP STOMP
VULKEN IS DEAD, AGAIN!!!
Yep there it is, was expecting a VULKAN LIVES comment
STOMP STOMP
Why do you care as a Dark Angel?
You are aware that the most common answer will be that he's developing Battlemace 42 million, right?
That or *VULKAN LIVES!* (**Stomp Stomp**)
While Corax writes angsty poetry in the trunk of the Engine of Woes
@@unluckyone1655 No amount of angst edgy poetic prose can put end to my ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I have never played the tabletop but religiously watch your videos.
40k lore is awesome.
I really really want to but you see GW hate my American money and refuses to build a games store in my freaken state.
@@spacewolfblackmane19 bummer. Maybe you can find local people to play with online? I don't know.
Same here brother. I love the lore and follow it religiously almost. But I've never played the table top myself.
I don't play the game nor do i want to. I only read the material and listen to lore also.
I just like to paint figures. I think i am just going to make dioramas with them, not a whole lot of players where im at either
What really happened: Currently traveling with Corvus Corax in the Engine of Woes booping the snoots of small, cute and potentially LETHAL creatures.
Vulkan's true goal is to mend this broken galaxy by hugging it so hard that he closes the great warp rift
Correct my brothers, I shall make everyone friends again by hugging them all!
Vulcan, dont boop the merry suicide bomber
@@vulkantheprimarch500 YOU ARE WEAAAAAAK VULKAN!!!!!!
I. Must. Boop. The. Snoot.
Remember when Vulcan got thrown into a volcano when the salamanders returned his body to nocturne, with the spear still in him, and came back a few days later without a scratch
I do see Vulkan using volcano as a hot tub
Busts down door naked and smoking* You fucking assholes
Vulkan is still around, absolutely. He's waiting for his sons to finish their badass scavenger hunt, and then he'll show up and help his sons burn the hell out of heretics. Oh, and he'd help the new Primaris Salamanders make even cooler specialized weapons.
Vulkan will be so thrilled over the Primaris. There be new sons for him to love and hug
@@markusnavergard2387 They shall all be the best of friends.
Charles Urban vulkan lives
VULKAN LIVES! *stomp* *stomp*
He is The Salamander as if hed be killed be a pesky explosion that he even did himself HA VULKAN LIVES!!!
I shall return and give hugs to all those who need them!
I miss your best friend give me a big bear hug😭
Magnus doesn't like hugs
@@wolfblade40k89 i agree with that
you're the best primarch, period.
Yey
I think that the demands of marketing will prove that Vulcan Lives! After all, you can't just bring back Guilliman and the chaotic primarchs.
If gurllymop can return through the use of an eldar waifu, Vulken is surely alive through his power of "FRIENDSHIP"
@@odstmurphy8224 Maybe he can come back with his own Whag powers that activate when everyone starts shouting "Vulkan lives!"
@@messihr HE BE THE ORKIEST PRI... PRIM... BIG SPESS MAHRIN GIT.
Vulkan Lives !!
Thank you very much for this christmas gift, the lack of Salamander content on your channel always desturbed me.
I think he lives, GW purposefully kept his fate in the dark, and if you are a perpetual, surviving an orkinfested planet is a matter of time.
Sometimes the easy answer is the right one, you had to make a whole case why he is not a perpetual anymore...
In the wake of returning Primarchs, I think Vulkan will return, maybe as a Primarch leading the marshal forces, while Girlyman can reform the empire.
This would play in Vulkans mind, being disillusioned by the empire before he vanished.
If Vulkan is alive, this is the time for his return.
Brother! What do you know? All I need to know, (Inhales deeply) VULKAN LIVES!!!!!!!!!!! stomp stomp
@@Pestolents Yes indeed (inhales even deeper) 'V U L K A N L I V E S!!!!!!' *STOMP STOMP*
True sons of Nocturne know that our gene-father is not so brittle as to be broken on the limp knees of Xenos green skins. Unto the Anvil of battle, brothers. Unto the fires of war!! VULKAN LIVES!! *stomping intensifies*
*stompstompstomp* unto the Anvil of War!
For Nocturne, for Vulkan, for the Emperor. Into the fire of battle, unto the anvil of war !
i mean... he died a few times, became Jamaican, then became a ork for some reason, then punched a frog
He booped a merry suicide bomber.
Darrian Weathington *and died* .... *twice*
And don't fogert that he faced a FREACKING EXTERMINATUS MISSILE WITH JUST HIS ARMOR AND FLESH!!
Wolf . . . Via hugging it
@@XtreemAlan more like he hit his head with it, he did the classic "on YOUR head" xD
Another great upload. I really hope either Vulcan or Lion El'Johnson are the next Primarch to return.
Realistically, they are the most likely to be found.
@@robertnelson9599 Russ hasn't been confirmed dead so he might be the next to return as well.
Is there still the possibility that Johnson is in fact corrupt and Luther was the loyal one?
Or has that been wedged out by new context and lore?
@@alexanderstrickland9036 I'm fairly certain the Horus Heresy books have confirmed that The Lion was loyal and Luther was corrupted.
Vulkan did return and ruled the imperialim during the beast arises era then sadly vanished again.
I saw Vulkin the lord of hugs and I came running.
What does the hugging thing mean? I'm a plebe and am trying to learn the lore.
Thank you in advance.
@@happyhammer1 it's a fan made series on UA-cam it's rely funny
Vulcan, and the Salamanders, are generally seen as the nice guys. The nicest bunch of pyromaniacs you'll ever meet.
Would be honored to be crippled by vulkans friend hug. Even if his apothecaries and chirugeons could not repair me. Such a death would be an honor.
It would be a single boop on the noggin.
Do not boop that merry suicide bomber
i want to boop the snoot.
@@vincelycaner4259 stop wanting!
@@secretlythevillian8831 BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!
@@daswordofgork9823 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
This is a fantastic Christmas gift. Thank you and merry Christmas tech-inquisiror!
Vulkan's just somewhere hugging
hes breaking magnus's poor spine through the power of friendship and happiness
@@jacthing1 well he's travelling with Corax currently. ( wich makes me think why i keep hearing crows screaming in agony )
*VULKAN LIVES*
STOMP STOMP.
Merry Sanguinala.
love this channel ty, really helping me get back into the lore nowadays
this and dawn of war :P
What a awesome Christ--- *Sanguinala* gift! Thanks Remlez & Co!
Oh throne of Terra Philosoraptor......okay Warsmith time. While it is possible to destroy a perpetual we have now constantly seen Vulkan return time and again. The theoretical and practical that we need to take into consideration is time....The destruction of Vulkan's physical form may have been just that, while Perpetuals can recover rapidly we also know that Vulkan was an engineered perpetual, the situation after the fulgurite spear could have significantly changed his biology.
In truth his essence may very well be trapped beneath the surface of Ullanor. The planet literally is an eternal magnet for the horrors of the galaxy, we know that the Ork's will always return due to it being their homeworld, and we are fully aware that Angron wished to defile the legacy of the Emperors last victory. Hell for all we know once Angron and Ghazkghull set foot upon the planet and tear it up some more whatever is holding Vulkan prisoner might shatter.
Now that I think about it, there is an individual who would actively be able to trap Vulkan's essence until he was needed again...theoretically Eldrad might be keeping Vulkan on standby for just such an emergency. Given what they Ynnari managed to do for Roboute it certainly is not outside the realm of possibility, and the Lord of Drakes did consider the Farseer a friend (hence the tooth given as a symbol of friendship in the beast arises series).
Dmitry Freyger wait you can kill a perpetual? As a newbie, this is new
@@usvplaylist8758 Two examples of Perpetuals who died for the last time are Malcador and Ollanius Pius. In both cases their death is related to the fact not only their body but also their soul has been destroyed.
@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 There's nothing indicating Malcador was a perpetual. He lived a long time thanks to his knowledge in psyker life extension but we dont know how long hes been around or how long he would have lasted.
@@Illier1 you didn't read the new short story just released did you....Horus and Jaghatai found out who Malcador was before he served the Emperor
@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 Also Damon Pritanis who Eldrad killed with the Fulgurite bullets......yes that actually happened (Throne I hate Old Earth)
Happy slaaneshmas from the warp
Sebastian Simonsson yeah that's about right
SLAANESHMAS IS DED DED, HAPPY GREAT HORNED RAT DAY
Lets celebrate what unites us all, xenophobia
@@unluckyone1655 fuck the alien
Happy slaaneshmas to all
Yay I made it before two hours! I just got done with the last two videos, amazing stuff as always 40K Theories :D (you actually have inspired me to play tabletop Adeptus Mechanicus and I enjoyed it!) oh and happy Sanguinala Eve! :D
He's a perpetual, it'd take more than a bunch of Prime-Orks to truly kill him, Sanguinius and Ferrus Manus are confirmed dead, Big Papa Ultrasmurf is back and the others are still unaccounted for. | 2:00 - Not a good thing to be in the company of fiction's most horrific version of Batman. | 3:40 - The sons of Rogal Dorn don't go down easily. | 9:50 - Ah, 40K Nightwing. | 10:30 - A gamma-irradiated Conan the Barbarian.
"VULKAN LIVES! " *STOMP STOMP * " VUlKAN LIVES! INSIDE OF US! "
Even if Vulkan is truly dead I believe that the nine artifacts of Vulkan when brought together will bring the Primarch back in his prime, with his perpetual nature restored. Even if it is but a Legend, Legends do have some corelation with reality and this is 40k we are talking about, so I do believe that.......... VULKAN LIVES! *stomps twice*
As usual thanks for the excellent video Remleiz
You sir are far underrated, I love your lore and you do a proper job of the many novels you read, thank you for your badassery 🤘😎🤘
A bit of a stretch but I can see the reasoning behind it. But it only makes sense from the pov of certain groups within the universe. From an audience perspective, if they had wanted to actually kill him off they would have left little doubt as to his loss of perpetual status. Like Sanguinius and the "he knew he would die and he still fought Horus" they would have capitalised on that for a better story.
In my mind GW wanted to make use of Vulkan to progress the story but at the same time attempt to retain the mystery that has always surrounded his fate, while at the same time not contradicting the Salamnders whole lore and reason for being.
Good day, sir!
lol
If the Primarch's soul can survive the death of the physical body, then there is always a chance of bringing Vulkan back, whether within the body of a clone, or the soul entering the body of a Dreadnought or other Mechanical entity. It would make sense that the Emperor himself would know for sure if this is true or not, and take the steps necessary to definitively answer this question once and for all. Thanks for sharing. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!
VULKAN LIVES!
any of my TTS boys will get it.
TTS
@@StoleUrToast Short for the warhammer 40k series called If the emperor had an Text-To-Speech device
TTS bruva is best as cactus
You are weaaaaak Vulkan!
Annnnd he is dead again..
I'll tell you what happened
*VULKAN LIVES*
_Stomp Stomp_
VULKEN LIVES!!
@odst jack daniel
*STOMP STOMP*
He atac
He protec
but most importantly
*HE COME BAC*
also he *blac*
Yaaaaayyy you kept your promise, thank you, The Salamanders are ever thankful
What if the Emperor restored Vulkan perpetuality with his powers?That would explain many things.
This is going to sound stupid but I personally really like the way that TTS handled it. The idea that because Waagh energy is a psychic field, Vulkan basically got doused in the entirety of a gestalt consciousness and warped into a half-orc, half-primarch being. And indeed since Vulkan seemed to view himself as unkillable, if he DID become part-gestalt then perhaps his own belief in that unendingness would result in him truly being a perpetual, although through a unique method.
Vulkan has mile thick plot armor, he’ll be back, great video though!
Mike Jewitt his plot armor is thicker than an eldari farseer
Lol
It gives me a sense of immersion to work on 40K army lists while listening to these videos :)
Thanks for making a video on Vulkan Remleiz, really appreciate it
Vulcan went chasing after an old flame.
Do you see what you did there?
Our crispy snugglemuffin yet lives!
40k theories. I have a theory. What if after the explosion with the Beast, only a small fragment of Vulkan survived and was collected by Trashy the Incontinent (Trayzin the Infinite). By the time Bill (Fabious Bile) entered Trayzin’s home and offers the clone of Fulgrim, the piece or pieces of Vulkan were barely starting to regenerate but very slowly. By the time Cadia broke before the Guard did, Vulkan finally healed and saved Creed. Possibly explaining the tall man with scales.
Foolish of you to think that Trashy the Incontinent would be so foolish as to allow a Rare Collector's Edition 'Vulkan Soul Fragment' to mend itself, merge with a one-of-a-kind 'Fulgrim's Clone', and escape the huge museum that is his collection, in order to save Creed.
He may be Trashy the Incontinent, but incontinence is *not* stupidity. He'll probably stop Vulkan by threatening the people in his collection, and then stasis fielding Vulkan. Granted, Trashy wouldn't *actually* risk harm to anyone in his collection... But Vulkan doesn't know that, and in the 41st Millennium, compassion is nothing but a weakness to be exploited at every opportunity.
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He's got a non-return, one way ticket to Vigilus and he's taking names and cracking skulls.
And he's ready to hug, then pile drive, Angron/Fulgrim
I wonder why Vulkan did not speak to the Emperor when he was on Terra during the War of the Beast
Vulkan is your big green friend.
VULKAN HIGH KEY MY ONLY FAVORITE PRIMARCH
Same
He is among da stars gatherin an army of friends mon!
I read somewhere that after giving that Talisman to the Emperor he was somehow sealed inside the Golden Throne to act as like a weapon if it should ever fall. So I don't think he's truly gone just sealed away to serve as a last ditch survivor and trigger for a weapon designed to weaken Chaos using something like the radiant worlds and Firetide.
I really doubt he is dead, someone of Vulkan's resilience cannot be vanquished so easily, similar to how Jack's supposed death in Samurai Jack S2E12 Jack and the Spartans as quoted by the Spartan King Leonidas "the 300 plus 1,....but I believe the one survived, a warrior that powerful could not be stopped so easily", he is the bearer of flame of humanity, an icon of all that is good and decent in human souls,
When the time is right the Lord of Drakes shall return,
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Let's be honest, Vulcan being a perpetual means that he will never truly die, as this will always give GW an excuse to resurrect him if they wanted.
Great video. It slightly pissed me off, but it was great. Also, if GW announces they've killed off Vulkan, I'll flippin' lose my last straw of patience with them. How grimdark do you have to be?!
ahem
VULKAN LIVES
*STOMP STOMP*
Your vids are soo entertaining, keep em coming.
to be honest given the weirdness of how interactions with the orks can be it is most likely the orks continued to think Vulkan was a perpetual and if his perpetual energy was lost the orks would have restored it due to how they work and the reason i think this is. is how orks despite being orks hold the emperor and the primarchs as extremely powerful beings and some have shown immortality such as Vulkan giving the orks reason to believe Vulkan can not die and as such he still lives somewhere.
It's funny that the scariest looking dude among the primarch is also the most heartwarming one.
Vulken must live if not then that’s heresy times 10000
Vulkan is my favorite primarch.
*best Brian blessed impression* Vulkan is alive!
Vulcan shares my favorite spot with Sanguines. Being the most likely to return would be amazing
Vulkan is the definition of big and badass on the outside, but kindhearted and considerate on the inside. At least towards the innocence lol.
So he's basically Terry Crews?
40K Theories exactly! Gotta get Vulkan in those Old Spice commercials!
A wonderful video of Vulkan.
I was wondering if you've done a video on how people become tech priests through the mechanicum and space marine chapters?
I dunno, I feel like Vulkan could still be a perpetual. John Grammaticus lost his perpetuality because he channeled all of it away, presumably also being how fulgurite is capable of killing a perpetual in the first place, but John Grammaticus was not a ‘true’ perpetual so the trait wasn’t part of his genetics, it was implanted in him through his resurrection. Vulkan, however, seemingly had his perpetuality encoded in his DNA by the emperor, meaning even when he had his immortality ‘drained’ he was still genetically predisposed to it, therefore he could still have regained it at any number of points, be it through his first resurrection, through his regeneration at the golden throne (what I believe to be most likely) or through soaking up a bunch of waagh energy. I don’t think GW would include Vulkan’s status as a perpetual only to drop it, it’s only been utilised a handful of instances outside of its initial discovery. It would feel like a bit of a waste to have Vulkan return and then just say “oh yeah btw I’m not immortal anymore”
VULKAN LIVES *stomps furiously*
DUDE!!!!!!!! what part of "VULKAN LIVES" don't you understand? -_-
XD
as always an awesome video. You should really consider doing an audiobook with all your 40k videos compiled into them. :)
The thing is a perpetual can also reincarnate if their body is destroyed. John grammaticus did as did others. But Vulcan regenerated from one of his son's bodies in a volcano so for reincarnation to occur certain conditions must be met.
But a perpetual is one because their soul does not disperse in the warp so can be recalled given conditions are met. So even if his body is annihilated he can resurrect. That's what the scavenger hunt is likely setting up the needed conditions for him to be reborn, likely from one of his son's who sacrifices his life, as before.
Rip hestan
I gave it a thumbs up before the video started just because vulkan lives !!!!
I feel like maybe there's something just out of my memory's reach that involved Vulkan on Ullanor during the Great Crusade. Though I am quite sure you would have found it if there had been.
I can't help imagining him as the super happy and friendly giant that is just incredibly clumsy/unlucky
Vulkan can’t die when there are so many hugs left to give.
Considering that the 'deaths' the militia managed to see would have been only a fraction of fatal events thar Vulkan experienced, i find it hard to believe even a primarch could have survived that kind of long solo conflict with hordes of orks without still being a perpetual. Plus all the dangers the powers of chaos and other threats would have sent after him between then and having left his legion.
In the same novel of old earth Vulkan is hinted at still being immortal since the emporer states he is the only primarch that could hold back the tides of chaos. I'm assuming because he's still immortal and if he were to fall he would return to keep holding the gate.
Nice work with the pictures
"H-how did you return from that...?"
"One saving throw at a time, ahahaha! Hugs!"
Based on how the warp works would the salamanders and people of caldera along with the perpetual nature of vulkan perhaps mean a way for him to live on in the warp as an echo? Not truly him but the memory of him. And if not now, maybe in time as long as both the salamanders keep up hope for his return and calderans believe in him
My love for Vulkan made me click on this video faster than I ever have.
i think we all know where Vulkan is hiding: in a dark corner of the salamander monastery, waiting to for the day where he can hug passionatelly hug everyone of his millions of friends
Vulkan has a teleporter in his hammer.....
Only Dawnbringer had a teleporter built in.
Urdrakule (which Vulkan used as he journeyed through the webway) was able to immolate
Doomtremor (which he used during the War of the Beast) could absorb discharges from energy weapons and redirect them at his attacker. This hammer did _not_ have a teleporter.
40K Theories well there goes my idea of him blowing up the place and teleporting out, also I found your channel like a week ago I love your videos! You rock!
It doesn't matter if he wasn't a perpetual, Vulkan's skin is stupidly heat resistant and would of likely absorbed the heat from the blast thus sparing him. You also have to realize the fact that if the Beast survived so would Vulkan.
So perptuals can not be killed conventionally and can use their perpetual energy like a weapon?
So, does that make them more like Highlanders or Timelords?
little more like timelords I think.
Currently he's hiding in the Darkest corner in the Imperium on Nocturne, which is in his workshop, playing Battlemace 42 Million
Great video 40k Theories
True fate could also imply hes alive.
Also why does poster boy guilliman get to come back but not Vulkan ?
Fuckin papa smurf getting favoritism.
You answered your own question. But for a more of a lore answer, with the Imperium all fucked up as it is, they needed something to balance the beating humans are taking, so they needed a Primarch back that would make the biggest difference, given the circumstances. That Primarch is Guilliman, since he is the better one to rule a gigantic empire while simultaneously taking care of the logistics of a galaxy spanning war.
I prefer the notion that he was sitting in a corner of his workshop really into painting some Battlemace 42,000,000 miniatures and no one noticed because that corner was very dark for some reason.
Meep Changeling Vulcan and Corax are painting warhammer figurines. But on a serious note do the primarchs/leaders paint warhammer figurines? For like battle strategy
The Primarch with a Heart of Gold.
The Emperor's reference to true death was metaphoric. Until we have evidence of Vulkan not being a perpetual, he is what we knew him as. . . a perpetual.
I have 2 questions, Remleiz. 1)Does a perpetual automatically come back or can they choose not to come back 2) can a perpetual come back from anything or does there have to be a living cell to regenerate from?
I'd argue that Vulcan's mind might have fused with ork energy enabling him to have their crazy durability. Imagine Vulcan coming back as a weird Primarch Warboss combo!
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Took your advice. I'm now benching 3 tons and can toss an elephant the whole length of a football field. I have become Vulcan.
couldnt he just teleport way with his hammer?
"I must go. My Chapter needs me."
He's obviously sitting in the darkest corner of the system.
I mean, if they can bend time and space to restore chief blueberry, it doesn't take much of a leap at all to bring back a guy with a track record of regenerating from everything.
He became an Open GL based 3D graphics API
As well as vulkain being a perpetual his hammer also had a very powerful telaporter in his hammer
Is there the possibility that, since Vulkan is not a perpetual anymore he carry a emergency teleportation device such as Amberley Vail in Ciaphas Cain books explaining his survival at explosives and falling buildings. and explain the sentence " he always returned, never close to where we thought he'd died. Always somewhere else "
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Angron did also get a Fortress in the head in one of the first books when the Astartes was figthing the Auretian Technocracy. Nice video as always...
Vulkan will return if GW wants him to