I'm just wondering if a gay person owned a bakery and if someone ordered an anti-gay style cake that was very offensive to them but a portion of society accepts it, would they be allowed to refuse to make this cake? It's an interesting situation....I think that they would refuse to make the cake and society and the court system would back them up.... so it should go both ways right?
I have moved back and forth on this issue and I have decided I am more in favour of free speech. I’m gay and I would defend a person’s right to call me anything under the sun.
3:10 Regardless of where you stand on this case, how can you seriously make that comparison? One is an anti-discrimination message, based on the scientifically irrefutable way in which you are born. The other is a pro-discrimination message, based on a 2000 year old fairy tale about a magic man in the sky.
Being gay is not a decision, you are right. However, entering into a gay relationship and having a gay wedding is, and that is what the business did not want to support, so they refused to make the cake
''One is the decision and one is not'' is another silly argument he makes. They did not want to support gay marriage because of their religion. Wasn't because they were gay. Had he asked for a happy birthday cake without any gay message then he would probably have made the cake for him even if known he was gay.
I support the baker 100%.... but if the Dem/Lib court forces him to make the Dem/Lib cake, then he should make it with NO sugar and lots of salt.... The cake should be so horrible that the Dems & Libs will choose a different baker..... SPREAD THE WORD!!
@@jackcarter5101 That's not the same at all. Their issue was that the cake they were asked to make went against their beliefes and conscience. It's not that complicated.
I'm just wondering if a gay person owned a bakery and if someone ordered an anti-gay style cake that was very offensive to them but a portion of society accepts it, would they be allowed to refuse to make this cake? It's an interesting situation....I think that they would refuse to make the cake and society and the court system would back them up.... so it should go both ways right?
I have moved back and forth on this issue and I have decided I am more in favour of free speech. I’m gay and I would defend a person’s right to call me anything under the sun.
The being born gay argument was not valid. The cake company refused on the grounds because they wanted a gay wedding cake and not because they are gay
3:10 Regardless of where you stand on this case, how can you seriously make that comparison? One is an anti-discrimination message, based on the scientifically irrefutable way in which you are born. The other is a pro-discrimination message, based on a 2000 year old fairy tale about a magic man in the sky.
Being gay is not a decision, you are right. However, entering into a gay relationship and having a gay wedding is, and that is what the business did not want to support, so they refused to make the cake
Ashers refusal to bake the cake was in their right to do so. If you're gay and you don't like Ashers ethos, go to another bakery. Short and simple!
So if he asked for a chocolate eclair and they refused because he was gay, that would be acceptable?
''One is the decision and one is not'' is another silly argument he makes. They did not want to support gay marriage because of their religion. Wasn't because they were gay. Had he asked for a happy birthday cake without any gay message then he would probably have made the cake for him even if known he was gay.
I support the baker 100%.... but if the Dem/Lib court forces him to make the Dem/Lib cake, then he should make it with NO sugar and lots of salt.... The cake should be so horrible that the Dems & Libs will choose a different baker..... SPREAD THE WORD!!
I agree about TOLERANCE!
Its there business if the gay couple dont like go somewhere else
So I can discriminate you John for your looks and race if I had a business
@@mohamedahmedyassinhussein6856 Not the same at all
So if he asked for a chocolate eclair and they refused because he was gay, that would be acceptable?
@@jackcarter5101 That's not the same at all. Their issue was that the cake they were asked to make went against their beliefes and conscience. It's not that complicated.
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rumpy dumpy needs tell his friends bake his own cake
what being black have to do with sodomy ?
It’s called discrimination buddy these are forms of discrimination