I think the biggest thing to look for is not the micro (Ashe hitting dynamites, coaches, or someone jiggle peaking) but macro understanding of the game. When to engage, disengage, ult economy, etc.
The first 30 seconds of gameplay, I could tell the GM for Blue Side just by the position and how they played it. They gave SO MUCH space to set up - no gold/plat would ever play that safely.
Video idea: You have 1 player of each rank on both teams (GM, masters, diamond, plat, gold) on each team, they have to play properly, and you have to guess their ranks. Maybe to make it easier, the ranks are mirrored across roles.
damn I thought Jay was going to be in it, but I assumed he was the Ashe the way he kept talking up those plays Turns out he's just finally acknowledged he plays like a gold Ashe
SPOIILERS- Ult charge building gave away the answers right at the start of the game, interestingly. Now I know why Jay didn't acknowledge the Hanzo completely cleaning up the point. Though that Kiriko had an impeccable suzu on Rampage at least TWICE, check 9:30. Very good plays.
Guessed Cosmic from the first round his first and second ults was insane, he was waiting on the sides, didn’t rush and was far away from the rein so he could lure the shatter Didn’t get Thisandthat at all tho
Some people forget that long time experienced ow players play in gold and plat. They are more or less stuck because they don’t play anymore than two or four hours every day or so, and they are okay with that because it’s still fun
These are becoming more easy to guess the smurf lol, because at least 1 of the 2 smurfs are gonna be low-key throwing and playing the worst way they possibly can. It's almost like they are trying too hard to look like a bad player, there is no way they can be in a gold/plat lobby with that level of play lmaoo. The reason it's so hard for the chat to guess the smurf is because people think so little of gold/plat players that they just immediately ignore the worst looking player, and not think for a second that they can literally be the smurf trying to throw them off. Call me crazy but I don't know if the Gold/Plat range is perfect for smurfs trying to act as "bad players."
The zen / lucio was too clean with his abilities: never missed out on a trans and build it quite quickly, as lucio he saved his team from the genji by speedboosting most ppl wouldnt do that and you could tell it was the hanzo bc he was playing worse then the plats
Defo the hardest one I've watched so far. The problem with this one is there were multiple players on the Blue team playing WAY above gold level, as someone who was recently playing in high gold and now in mid-high plat, no one who is a real plat plays like Taken or the Kiri on the red team, also the Kiri on the blue team was playing on diamond level. Taken imo easily could be around masters and the Kiri on the red team played almost flawlessly with GODLY aim. I was absolutely sure he was the GM smurf, ngl.
You could tell it was cosmic. He was legit ground lucio the whole game yet his positioning/skill usage were insane. He tried a bit too hard by not wallriding. I doubt even gold/plat are that bad to not wallride..right ?
Knew it was Zen because his hands were never in the default position. He was always left or right clicking, reloading, or throwing an orb. Too high of an APM.
Was thinking, both teams have to try and hide the smurf but whatever team loses gives jay and extra chance at guessing. Making it harder on the players to hide their skills the whole game. Idk just maybe a little spice to it. More competition for the players
I wish you could do it live so when you spectate it alerts them somehow :D that would enable them to play sneaky, would give a whole new dimension to this consept
Guessed the Lucio within the first round. I’ve played in those ranks and Lucios don’t know how to play like that 😂 having the confidence to play from line for elms and know game sense of when to speed in the team
Yeah knew it was bastion the second Jay took like a full minute to place his ult and spaced it out, just seemed like hard baiting but too low brow for that rank
What I've noticed about these secret smurf videos in all games is that the smurf always plays worse than the other players and the person trying to guess who the smurf is always looks at the people who are doing better and rules out the person acting like a bot. I knew the smurf was cosmiceon because he was playing like a bronze floorcio 😂
Looks like gm hanzo game play to me just keep firing at the corner repeatedly lmao actually I was in a masters game the other day where the hanzo got potg just shooting at the corner of a wall and hitting people hecouldnt even see in killcam
I think there should be also i cash prize for the smurfs if they win so that they would be more willing to win at all costs and by doing this it would get harder for them to hide the fact that they are the smurfs but still make them to commit for the victory because of the cash prize
I first suspect war because people don’t switch that much in gold (mainly one trick). But my final guess for Smurf on red team is thisandthat because golds don’t throw that hard and have that bad of aim and survivability. Seems like a grandmasters deflated view of what gold is actually like where in reality it isn’t that bad lol. So I think he gave it away with trying to blend in by being that bad. I could be completely wrong tho…
At first I guessed ThisAndThat because I feel like even a gold Hanzo plays quickly, he’s taking a lot of time like someone pretending to be worse would do, but he played normally as Genji Then the Kiriko crouching as she shot on the high ground is suspicious, feels like a higher rank thing to do, but what made my final choice be Kiriko is that ult cleanse. Feels like higher ranks would have that good of a reaction time In the blue team, I guessed TakenWallet. CosmicEon was also good but he didn’t stay by corners but didn’t feed, which made me feel like he’s genuinely gold, not faking. The tank did great ults, and played corners well most of the time, and got space I almost had ThisAndThat, I shouldn’t have changed guess. I also overlooked the Zen’s great ults, but at least I was close on both
Jay was easy to guess, he thinks way too little of Gold/Plat lol, so plays like Bronze to try "fit in." I almost guessed Cosmic, but thought the Kiriko might have been slipping up and playing more to win.
Well that was easy, gold sigmas usually miss their shots and hanzo too sus. Video suggestion: Guess the secret bronze in a GM lobby, but everyone tries to act like bronzes
Hey Jay, I was the other smurf. Was a ton of fun filming and playing with you! Keep up the hard work and amazing content💙
(SPOILER)
Biggest plot twist of century, jay3 definitely let his little brother play on his account, no way he fed that hard lmao
Well, hes feeding a lot in his games...
He gets a lota kills but still feeds a lot more than he should be (jay you hear me)
I mean just pick the people doing the stupidest things and you win. Thisandthat was feeding his brains out and Cosmiceon was a floor Lucio.
@@steggyweggy nah, blue had 3 good players and when we were spectating jay he was doing what he is always doing (feeding)
@@steggyweggy t
Video idea. Tell 5 GMs they are all the secret Smurf and see how they do
The issue would be some of them might recognize each other in voice chat and it’d be sus to not let them talk to each other
@@steggyweggy they just have to make it so there's no such thing as callouts everyone has to remain silent
I think the biggest thing to look for is not the micro (Ashe hitting dynamites, coaches, or someone jiggle peaking) but macro understanding of the game. When to engage, disengage, ult economy, etc.
I'm convinced jay thinks every player below masters has toddler-level intelligence. "Oh wow he used an ability he must be a smurf"
Any player using hero ability, Jay: this is too clean!
Jay3 - "Are plat players able to button their pants? No way right? That's at least a diamond play"
*(SPOILER)*
I think the craziest thing here is realizing that it *wasn’t* the Kiriko.
Yeah that kiriko was cracked, either in Elo hell or just doesn’t play much and is a gm in apex or something.
@@alexholmes8714I’ve been trying to get grandmasters in apex for so long.. maybe one day ☹️
that’s what i was saying!!! ztrey was absolutely cracked i was shocked it wasn’t them
The first 30 seconds of gameplay, I could tell the GM for Blue Side just by the position and how they played it. They gave SO MUCH space to set up - no gold/plat would ever play that safely.
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@@b1orp_ 😢
Was ready for a challenge today but then realized I saw this live lolll
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@@acryaa7587 some people watch it like regular Tv
Video idea:
You have 1 player of each rank on both teams (GM, masters, diamond, plat, gold) on each team, they have to play properly, and you have to guess their ranks. Maybe to make it easier, the ranks are mirrored across roles.
damn I thought Jay was going to be in it, but I assumed he was the Ashe the way he kept talking up those plays
Turns out he's just finally acknowledged he plays like a gold Ashe
11:37 yeah but imagine this instead: you throw it and it boops someone to mess up their aim a little bit.
9:25 "Is this Jay3's Genji?" 😂😂
Someone in the chat already knew who was the smurf in 9:21
look at the chat at 1:00 lmao
@@dearsomeone1662lol
SPOIILERS-
Ult charge building gave away the answers right at the start of the game, interestingly.
Now I know why Jay didn't acknowledge the Hanzo completely cleaning up the point. Though that Kiriko had an impeccable suzu on Rampage at least TWICE, check 9:30. Very good plays.
Guessed Cosmic from the first round his first and second ults was insane, he was waiting on the sides, didn’t rush and was far away from the rein so he could lure the shatter
Didn’t get Thisandthat at all tho
To be fair he barely spectated himself and when he did switch to his thisandthat pov he wasn’t doing anything or dying.
7:08 got me crying 😂😂
Jay3 casually just glancing over himself killing 4 people and getting huge ults
IMO, the zen on the enemy team was an easy guess. Thisandthat kept feeding tooooo hard. Never would've guessed it was GM
thisandthat should not even be gold, if his profile shows that, i bet his hidden mmr is around silver or bronze
Taken wallet and crazymage were actually pretty clean for plat/gold im shocked that neither of them was the smurf
13:42 - 13:47 pause, i didn't know you rolled like that Jay3
Some people forget that long time experienced ow players play in gold and plat. They are more or less stuck because they don’t play anymore than two or four hours every day or so, and they are okay with that because it’s still fun
i knew the hanzo was too stupid to be in gold or plat
Ikr, bro was arguably moving worst than a bronze lmaooo
U just ruined the whole vid for me thanks
@@jayledono paper 5 gameplay fr
Bro is in wooden
Truly one of the biggest plot twists I've ever seen
These are becoming more easy to guess the smurf lol, because at least 1 of the 2 smurfs are gonna be low-key throwing and playing the worst way they possibly can. It's almost like they are trying too hard to look like a bad player, there is no way they can be in a gold/plat lobby with that level of play lmaoo. The reason it's so hard for the chat to guess the smurf is because people think so little of gold/plat players that they just immediately ignore the worst looking player, and not think for a second that they can literally be the smurf trying to throw them off. Call me crazy but I don't know if the Gold/Plat range is perfect for smurfs trying to act as "bad players."
No way it was you as thisandthat 😂😂😂 you did well I never thought it would be you! That was fun!
Yo such a great reveal at the end. I legitimately guessed Cosmic but got Jay3 wrong!!! Dude that was so good great video!
The zen / lucio was too clean with his abilities: never missed out on a trans and build it quite quickly, as lucio he saved his team from the genji by speedboosting most ppl wouldnt do that
and you could tell it was the hanzo bc he was playing worse then the plats
This was imo an easy guess, it was like "smurfs" had never played the character before and stood out too much
As soon as I saw cosmic speed their teammate in to win the fight I just knew
Defo the hardest one I've watched so far. The problem with this one is there were multiple players on the Blue team playing WAY above gold level, as someone who was recently playing in high gold and now in mid-high plat, no one who is a real plat plays like Taken or the Kiri on the red team, also the Kiri on the blue team was playing on diamond level. Taken imo easily could be around masters and the Kiri on the red team played almost flawlessly with GODLY aim. I was absolutely sure he was the GM smurf, ngl.
That one dude right at the start who said Hanzo was Jay nailed it
i can never get these they are so unpredictable also the best content other than hackers keep it up Jay3!!!
You could tell it was cosmic. He was legit ground lucio the whole game yet his positioning/skill usage were insane. He tried a bit too hard by not wallriding. I doubt even gold/plat are that bad to not wallride..right ?
Why does the kirkos always play good
Bruh I was just wondering during the vid if jay would do some kind of plot twist like that for one of these videos, well played
Don’t diss the jump slam it’s a display of absolute dominance
Knew it was Zen because his hands were never in the default position. He was always left or right clicking, reloading, or throwing an orb. Too high of an APM.
thisandthat was deffo trolling, diying first every single team fight and taking forever to shoot his arrows
Crazymage's ego after this lmao
My guess as of 14:23 is red team kiriko and blue team tank. They both just have midly superior positionning over the rest of the lobby imo
Shoulda got thisandthat. Looked like normal jay3 gameplay tbh
The one guy that said that it looks like Jay's genji after he bladed
Was thinking, both teams have to try and hide the smurf but whatever team loses gives jay and extra chance at guessing. Making it harder on the players to hide their skills the whole game. Idk just maybe a little spice to it. More competition for the players
I wish you could do it live so when you spectate it alerts them somehow :D that would enable them to play sneaky, would give a whole new dimension to this consept
Best viedeos ever love spot the smurf. I can catch it live because I live in german and there is a time difference
i was the ana/kiriko on the blue team, this was hella fun! it was insane when they told us about the secret yk yk hehe
No one would have guessed Thisandthat, he played like a low plat player.
red kiriko is clearly silver/gold, bro always doesn’t have suzu when he needs it and wastes it when he doesn’t need to
Guessed the Lucio within the first round. I’ve played in those ranks and Lucios don’t know how to play like that 😂 having the confidence to play from line for elms and know game sense of when to speed in the team
1:50 show the hanzo boy thats you
Man, that Hanzo plays like he’s 5’3” and balding
HANZO, THE CART IS ONE! 🤣
Got cosmic in the first teamfight but Jay was not having a good
Time lol
Yeah knew it was bastion the second Jay took like a full minute to place his ult and spaced it out, just seemed like hard baiting but too low brow for that rank
I got cosmic when he shifted to eat the firestrike while ulting I was like yep
What I've noticed about these secret smurf videos in all games is that the smurf always plays worse than the other players and the person trying to guess who the smurf is always looks at the people who are doing better and rules out the person acting like a bot. I knew the smurf was cosmiceon because he was playing like a bronze floorcio 😂
4 Silvers + 1 GM vs 5 Gold, pretend it's a "pick the GM on each team"
knew it was cosmic in first 5 minutes. He trance for every rein ult
I thought everyone played kiriko by healing and attacking in between🤨
19:47 he got rolled by the sticky bomb it doesn't count
why is no one talking the kiriko that we specc'd first- bro needs to duo with that tank and climb asap
Looks like gm hanzo game play to me just keep firing at the corner repeatedly lmao actually I was in a masters game the other day where the hanzo got potg just shooting at the corner of a wall and hitting people hecouldnt even see in killcam
Crazy mages continuous jumping was too bronze for my liking lol
I think there should be also i cash prize for the smurfs if they win so that they would be more willing to win at all costs and by doing this it would get harder for them to hide the fact that they are the smurfs but still make them to commit for the victory because of the cash prize
Where did you buy that giant duck from
I legit thought this was guess the smurf in bronze and not in gold 💀
So when will the smurf ranks start increasing
I was flaming that hanzo all round...
It was so obviously THISANDTHAT lol, it looked like a bad actor and you were closer to imitating bronze 😭
Thisandthat really a good actor
1:00 What did the rein just say?
I first suspect war because people don’t switch that much in gold (mainly one trick). But my final guess for Smurf on red team is thisandthat because golds don’t throw that hard and have that bad of aim and survivability. Seems like a grandmasters deflated view of what gold is actually like where in reality it isn’t that bad lol. So I think he gave it away with trying to blend in by being that bad. I could be completely wrong tho…
At first I guessed ThisAndThat because I feel like even a gold Hanzo plays quickly, he’s taking a lot of time like someone pretending to be worse would do, but he played normally as Genji
Then the Kiriko crouching as she shot on the high ground is suspicious, feels like a higher rank thing to do, but what made my final choice be Kiriko is that ult cleanse. Feels like higher ranks would have that good of a reaction time
In the blue team, I guessed TakenWallet. CosmicEon was also good but he didn’t stay by corners but didn’t feed, which made me feel like he’s genuinely gold, not faking. The tank did great ults, and played corners well most of the time, and got space
I almost had ThisAndThat, I shouldn’t have changed guess. I also overlooked the Zen’s great ults, but at least I was close on both
That was a good surprise!!!
I bet jay3 don’t know about the five guys secret
ThisandThat for Red and Cosmiceon for Blue are my choices for smurfs
Quelle plaisir cette notif
Yeah u think to low of low ranks cause I'm in gold and I'm about where mage was at with his movement and hitting the dynamite and stuff
what if u do a team of golds with one secret bronze or silver? think that would be fun
That hanzo is just like me
The hanzo was him???? That plot twisttt
POV - You watched the other vid before this so you already knew who was the smurf O_o
Jay was easy to guess, he thinks way too little of Gold/Plat lol, so plays like Bronze to try "fit in." I almost guessed Cosmic, but thought the Kiriko might have been slipping up and playing more to win.
Man it just wasnt my day, my glasses broke and I couldn't see but it was fun
If this is how smurfs are i should in GM3 now
Plat should be people with aim and game knowledge but somehow is people that are completely lost and have never played a game in their life
Video idea: 2 buffed top500 players vs 5 buffed golds but make the golds 2x stats and t500 3x stats
He should do this type of video but instead of him guessing a person in silver should guess
0:53 for fart 👍
Bro what a plot twist
there is a know hacker that goes by the name WAR.
The hanzo feels too bad to be gold (have not seen the result yet)
Shits small here in India as qwll cuz we don't pump our chickens with 45 chemicals
My man oualid’s enemy
Well that was easy, gold sigmas usually miss their shots and hanzo too sus.
Video suggestion: Guess the secret bronze in a GM lobby, but everyone tries to act like bronzes
Emongg did this on his channel :)
@@lunedocs2228 nice, im gonna watch it, thanks
Suprised with jays ego he didn’t just go ashe and shit on them
Top 500 buffed doom zbra vs 5 bronze?
BRUH THAT PLOTTWIST