காதலிக்கும் போது இந்த அறிவாளித்தனம் விதிமுறைகளை கடைபிடித்தல் ஆண் பெண் இருவரும் நாணல் போல் நெளிவு சுளிவுடம் வளைந்து கொடுக்கும் தன்மை பெற்றிருக்க வேண்டும் 👏
என் மனைவிக்குத் தெரிந்ததெல்லாம் சமையல், சாப்பாடு, சமையலறை மட்டுமே. வீட்டில் எங்கெங்கெல்லாம் என்ன என்ன பிரச்சினைகள், என்ன சரி செய்ய வேண்டும் என்பதெல்லாம் மனைவிக்குத் தெரியாது. இத்தனைக்கும் அவள் ஒரு ஆசிரியை. மழை காலத்தில் மட்டுமே தொலைக்காட்சியில் செய்தி பார்ப்பாள், பள்ளி விடுமுறையா எனப் பார்ப்பதற்கு.
Am a housewife, and my husband is working at a higher grades in IT. But he has never tried to show himself intellectual at house. He is such an humble amazing man❤
Thankfully this is changing. Old school thinking that only men know the outside world and women are unaware😂😂 This is shocking can’t believe this was only few years ago?!?!
Why do these women wait for their husbands approval to prove their skills? That itself means that the women themselves are sub consciously treating themselves lower than their husbands
Well said Mr Palaniyappan, Ms Oviya, Mrs. Sujatha. What Mr. Palaniyappan said about Mahakavi Bharathi came as a surprise. I just found out that the meeting with Nivedita-di influenced Bharathiyaar to fight for the freedom of women. Actor Mr Aamir Khan recently did a show called 'Masculinity harms men' and similar views that of the guest speakers of the show here, were shared there too. One of the guest was Kamal Bhasin, who has written extensively about masculinity. The cultural mindset of an Indian man is the same across the board, whether it is a UP man who cannot hold a child in his arms, or a Haryanvi man who feels that a women must be slapped when she stands up and she sits down. I sincerely wish that this attitude of men changes soon.
கருபழனியப்பன் அருமையாக சொல்லிவிட்டார். எப்போதுமே கருபழனியப்பன், இயக்குநர் இராம், ஷாலினி, எழுத்தாளர் மோகன் இவர்களேல்லாம் நீயா நானா கண்டெடுத்த முத்துக்கள்
1:25:26 Taatha is old conservative follow ancestor dominant mentality, but youngsters not like that because I accept. That's y activist Oviya asked that Taattha. If ask youngsters I strongly believe he will say can
This is show demonstrating male chauvinism and not intellect. The host has played and part in calling it intellect and not calling it out any time during the show.
Wearing a black shirt in a hot place like Chennai will result in Vit D difficiency.Lack of technical knowledge and common sense are characteristics of certain people in Tamil Nadu
All book knowledge is of NO practicality No use in real life All the husbands are big Yogis from Himalayas , Every man - He thinks He has mastered himself He is beyond his Body Mind Emotions He is very Self Reliant He knows all the Skills Multi tasking, He can take care of his own kids & parents 24 hrs Bathroom his Darbar , He is the King there So Dirty to bring newspapers from bathroom germs inside the home After Reading newspaper He will go become next CM of state After watching sports He plans togo play for Indian Team Send ALL MEN to Bootcamp for 2 years to ARMY He will be Really Self Disciplined Then kids & wives can be happy U can be yourself ….
கொடுமையிலும் கொடுமை @ 25 ; 52 கொஞ்ச காலத்திலே அல்லது தள்ளாடும் வயது வந்ததும் இவன் கால் முடங்கிக் கிடப்பான்... அந்த குழந்தை பெரியவர்ளாகி இவனை பார்த்துக்கொள்ள வேண்டுமாம்
Veetula kulanthainga wife aa lam paathukurathe ella.. Summa naanthan periya aalu.. Naanthan vela seiren... Aan aathikkam than entha mens ku... 🤦♀️🤦♀️
Most of the anchors also do this same thing now a days, They are thinking that is the correct tamil but that is really wrong... It may be fashion i think
Jeyamahesan Chandrakanthan She is talking what she talked 10 years back. Now the world and Inida and Tamil women changed lot. They have lot of freedom,if not complete freedom. May be Oviya's husband is not giving her freedom.
PranavaDart Open your minds. Summa Oviya-ve kutham solradhu. Please give an answer to the dowry deaths, female foeticides, sexual harassment, infanticides, rapes and abusive relationships. Also, explain how we only have male heads of state in 95% of the countries and in our own country, women form a SMALLLL number of the high positions in the government, judiciary and legislature. Please explain the gender pay gap that exists even in developing countries. Can a woman get out alone after 8 in your own city? Oru aanal-a mudidhu illa? Where is real equality?
very true. She started off as someone who makes sense. But she is offlate becoming one of those eternal activists who see problem and issue with every single event that happens in the world. She doubts every action of men. I dont know why she doesnt speak about the senior women in villages who dominate younger women, like Mother-in-law or senior female employees dominating juniors in Panchayat, Political offices, Corporation etc. She talks as if all Women always respect another woman. I have openly seen Women hate another women even in big corporate offices. The reasons behind the hate will be silly.
35.00 Gopinath talks about democracy in this show. I won't blame Gopinath but the sad reality this same tv channel has break all the democracy by its one show called BIGG BOSS and the immoral host Kamal
Arivaali naa Idealogical ah..Enna da kambi kattura kathai yellaam solreenga.. Ippadi thappu thappaa English la ezhuthalai nu Ungala yaaru kettaa..Tamil la pottu po
What a completely biased point of view from writer oviya.She has proved that she is a bonafide feminist..she is probably living in the 1960s still, wonder why they keep inviting her.Insecure people are always insecure be it man or woman but she goes on to say that only men are insecure..If a man praises another woman in front of his wife then obviously she will feel insecure,it's a completely normal thing, the same applies to the husband too ..I am sure that most men these days wont suppress their wives if they are talented,educated and could contribute financially, this is the 21st century for gods sake...She and her feminist theory,she is the one that has lost all touch with reality...
parvathy nayar No, i am saying that she is still using the same broad brush to describe all men...Agreed, there was a time when things were bad but now you see thousands of working women, no one is suppressing them,it's not the same scenario you saw in 1960's...
snvp See, there's a role that society asks men and women to fill....For men, it is be the dominating person and for women is the subversive role. Even though its not 1960's there are certain pressures from society which forces a man to be dominant and wife to be subversive. I think that's what Oviya Madam meant..by suppression.. Men had got sensitized. But, society hasn't. Even though they want to cast away those roles..society expects you to maintain it and calls you hen-pecked...So men keeps on playing those roles even though we live in 21 century....like u said. U said that if a man praises another women in front of his wife, she feels insecure.What u don't understand is that the society expects the women to be insecure....But a person who is confident and believes that he/she is a unique person doesn't feel insecurity under those circumstances.
When the ship is drowning, will the feminist accept the offer to be saved first because She's a women? ...or will she reject the offer because she believes in total equality? .. The ones who reject the offer, the ones who seek no extra privileges just because they are women.. are the only women who believe they are equal to men. The rest...are weak cake eaters.
Loosuthanama irku neenga pesradhu. Women have been oppressed for years. If they take the minor benefits given by society, there's nothing wrong in it. Seriously speaking - how many times does the "ship drowning" scenario happen these days? Do we really want to count that against the number of dowry deaths, female foeticides, sexual harassment, infanticides, rapes and abusive relationships? Do the math.
Desdemona oh come on... you speak as if women are saints, female sex criminals, including paedophiles are given a blind eye ..by the law. When a woman commits the same sex crime as a man, she's given a lesser sentence than the one a man gets, so many examples. Especially female paedophiles go unnoticed, because of prejudice in the society.
Desdemona Why should the present generation of men, pay for the mistakes of previous generations? You think it is fair? .. this is like asking the Germans to pay for Nazi crimes. How do you expect a man to treat a woman equally when she expects privileges from him just because she's a woman?? When she expects privileges, indirectly she's saying she's less than a man or dependent on the man. She's giving the wrong signals. Women, if they wish to be treated equally, they must stop depending on men for silly things. Start taking responsibilities. Have confidence in themselves.
***** Who is asking men to pay for the mistakes of previous generations? I'm saying there's nothing wrong in giving benefits to people who are oppressed for several generations - the kind of oppression that takes a long time to recover from. Reservations based on caste? Same thing. The rates of crime by women isn't unnoticed - it is actually extremely low - because of the very same reason, historical oppression, controlled by men, limited means and fear (because they're not powerful). If a woman committed a crime, she will be punished. She should be. I'm not denying that at all. Let's still do the numbers. I have no doubts. Why are men so unwilling to concede that women have been oppressed and be kind enough to let them live? Why are you so unwilling to listen to women's rights activists? Do you not see reality? I can't even walk out safely out of my house after 8. Why? Because society views women as objects that can be violated if it is without the supervision of a male. Do you know how many opportunities women lose to interact with the world, learn and grow merely because of this reason - they're kept at home? Do you think it is fair? Are they actually on an equal footing? Do you know the number of times parents tell their girl children or others in front of their girl children that it is enough if she passed and got a basic degree to get her married? Do they do the same for boys? Do you know the effect of parental motivation in a child's success? Stop being blind. Please. You're already in a position of privilege. Be happy. Stop pushing down people who're already struggling in a country that doesn't value women.
Desdemona Position of privilege?..expected to open doors for women, expected to go and fight if the country is at war..expected to go outside and check what's wrong if there's a noise etc .. that's not privileged. Women were oppressed, True. But why?...Why didn't they fight back or fight enough? If they had fought enough, they would have won. Or did they lose? If they lose..then doesn't that mean women are not equal? Why are you restraining yourself after eight? Why can't you you defend yourself? Are you physically not fit as a man? then carry a weapon. Defend yourself by any means. Why don't you fight for your freedom? Take the risk. Go out. If someone tries to hurt you, defend yourself. Don't expect the society to change, if you are not prepared to take risks. If every woman starts to defend themselves, you think men would hurt them? What I think is not fair is that...you and other women, not willing to take risks, not having the will to fight for your freedom.. but expecting the society to change. The society will not change, unless you take drastic steps. Society won't change if women are expecting privileges. Stop expecting privileges. Life is tough. not fair. You must fight your cause. I am not being blind. I am being honest and pragmatic. Women must prove they are worthy of being treated equally. Start fighting. Talking wont help.
காதலிக்கும் போது இந்த அறிவாளித்தனம் விதிமுறைகளை கடைபிடித்தல் ஆண் பெண் இருவரும் நாணல் போல் நெளிவு சுளிவுடம் வளைந்து கொடுக்கும் தன்மை பெற்றிருக்க வேண்டும் 👏
என் மனைவிக்குத் தெரிந்ததெல்லாம் சமையல், சாப்பாடு, சமையலறை மட்டுமே.
வீட்டில் எங்கெங்கெல்லாம் என்ன என்ன பிரச்சினைகள், என்ன சரி செய்ய வேண்டும் என்பதெல்லாம் மனைவிக்குத் தெரியாது.
இத்தனைக்கும் அவள் ஒரு ஆசிரியை.
மழை காலத்தில் மட்டுமே
தொலைக்காட்சியில் செய்தி பார்ப்பாள், பள்ளி விடுமுறையா எனப் பார்ப்பதற்கு.
Oviya mam.. Super speech.. 👌👌 100 truee%%%% 👌 entha unmai epothan entha mans ku puriya poguthoo...
Madam Oviya has explained it beautifully.
Am a housewife, and my husband is working at a higher grades in IT. But he has never tried to show himself intellectual at house. He is such an humble amazing man❤
True learned intelligent will never try to show it and also understand others much better.
Karuppu Pazhaniappanukku ponne muttalunnu solliyirukkam. She has shown a mirror to her dad. Very good.
Women are still undertreated
OVIYA again, so amazing. I also liked how the Director spoke about the issue :D
ஏனோ இன்று தான் ஓவியா அவர்களின் உரை மிகவும் பிடித்திருந்தது ...
More decipline will lead to more distance between family members
The best part that everyone must watch is from 1:12:45 to 1:18:38. Best speech Karu Pazhaniappan sir.!!!!
Thankfully this is changing. Old school thinking that only men know the outside world and women are unaware😂😂
This is shocking can’t believe this was only few years ago?!?!
அன்பு கோபிநாத் சாருக்கு இனிய தமிழ் வணக்கம். திரு. கரு. பழனியப்பன் சார் சூப்பர். நன்றி.
nandhakumar9632... "இனிய 'தமிழ்' வணக்கம்" சொல்லும் போது என்ன 'சார்' வேண்டிக்கிடக்கு? 'ஐயா' என்று எழுதவேண்டியது தானே?
Director is always up to the point. His thoughts and speech is cristal clear in all the shows
Super question Gopi Sir to News addict husbands.
Why do these women wait for their husbands approval to prove their skills? That itself means that the women themselves are sub consciously treating themselves lower than their husbands
Well said Mr Palaniyappan, Ms Oviya, Mrs. Sujatha. What Mr. Palaniyappan said about Mahakavi Bharathi came as a surprise. I just found out that the meeting with Nivedita-di influenced Bharathiyaar to fight for the freedom of women.
Actor Mr Aamir Khan recently did a show called 'Masculinity harms men' and similar views that of the guest speakers of the show here, were shared there too. One of the guest was Kamal Bhasin, who has written extensively about masculinity. The cultural mindset of an Indian man is the same across the board, whether it is a UP man who cannot hold a child in his arms, or a Haryanvi man who feels that a women must be slapped when she stands up and she sits down. I sincerely wish that this attitude of men changes soon.
20:04 EB comedy 🤣
01:14:20 மனைவி
Don't Try to Understand Just Love ❤
கருபழனியப்பன் அருமையாக சொல்லிவிட்டார். எப்போதுமே கருபழனியப்பன், இயக்குநர் இராம், ஷாலினி, எழுத்தாளர் மோகன் இவர்களேல்லாம் நீயா நானா கண்டெடுத்த முத்துக்கள்
Yaru Shaliniya?
Karu Palaniappana....
this programme very nice ,i am realy like anchor speach ,thank you for vijay tv neeya naana groups.
Oviya madam explained it very well.. hats off mam..
one of the very HILARIOUS NEEYA NAANA SHOWS I HAD EVER SEEN
அக்கா நானும் அப்புடித்தான் கேட்பேன் வீடா இது சுடுகாடானு கேட்பேன்
We should brush twice daily... that should be the norm...
Irony to question the person who does it correctly
India la ellarum wife ah vela vangitu enjoy pandreenga... :)
Velinatla apdi ellam eruka mudiyadhu... :(
Now it's getting changed in india too in current generation
Evan da enjoy panra evalvo tension irrukum teriyama kutumbam pathi oru ambalaiya manusula
@@Attitudezero884correct bro Evan kodayathu poeira kodathu Ingra tension namaku niraya erukum....
39.28 ma'am, hat's off. That's the point I had faced with my dad and also with my superior. My grant us time. We are not Superman or magician
I sware!its a wonerful show.... I am frm kerala...❤
Veetil❤yaravathu❤oruvar❤poruppu❤yeduthu❤kolla❤vendum❤
43:04 Point, spouse think our job easy, easy money coming
1:06:54
His wife is a teacher, and he doesn't even know which subject she's handling at school.
Paavam ma neenga..
I admired my husband's car mechanism knowledge.
I don't know anything about car.
My husband is also a mechanic, army la work panranga... Semma mechanical knowledge ivarukum... Naanum romba admire aayireken
Excellent topic👍👍👍
Rasam❤satham❤saiappa❤sappitten❤kadavulin❤kulanthaikal❤sappittacha❤
Correctana❤mudivukalai❤yeduka❤therinthu❤iruka❤vendum❤
Adhimedavigal vs pavapatta manaivihal
Why they married what use
These men are so adamant and selfish! Specially the one with white and green shirt!
Ulaga arivali Panniyappan pechai skip pannitten.. ...Vera aale kidaikalaya
Ithey❤visayathai❤nam❤sonnal❤ketpatkala❤
22.17 semma comedy😅😅😅
23.35 😂😂😂😂
very nice show
1:25:26 Taatha is old conservative follow ancestor dominant mentality, but youngsters not like that because I accept. That's y activist Oviya asked that Taattha. If ask youngsters I strongly believe he will say can
49:00 exactly during my childhood, my dad
29:48 Taattha, primary function of TV is entertainment
Nice
This is show demonstrating male chauvinism and not intellect. The host has played and part in calling it intellect and not calling it out any time during the show.
Karupalaniyappan ,,,,ippo thamizha thamizha show natathuraru thana🤔
6:15 his wife is laughing like anything.. 🤣🤣🤣
Gopi nalla kudutharu for that blue shirt
@@bencygnanasighamani1635blue shirt pottavae loosu agiduvaangalo ennavo theriyala.
Wearing a black shirt in a hot place like Chennai will result in Vit D difficiency.Lack of technical knowledge and common sense are characteristics of certain people in Tamil Nadu
That eb wife awsme talk
Ponnu kedaikalanu solramla itho ippadithan ellam maariyullathu ponnunga control panniye vachirunthathala ippo nelama maripochu kozhanthaingala kuda kaila vachukka mudiyatha manamketta aatkal
Gudumbamna❤appadithan❤irukum❤yellamum❤irukum❤anusarithu❤selvathu❤nallathu❤
Kannu theriyatha mundamey ambalainga nanga veetla pullaya pathukurom di neenga Ponga di velaiku. Vaai mairu unaku kedu. Maanengeta naya.
Aanathikka manushano
Yes waste body
All book knowledge is of
NO practicality No use in real life
All the husbands are big Yogis from Himalayas , Every man -
He thinks
He has mastered himself
He is beyond his Body Mind Emotions
He is very Self Reliant
He knows all the Skills Multi tasking,
He can take care of his own kids & parents 24 hrs
Bathroom his Darbar , He is the King there
So Dirty to bring newspapers from bathroom germs inside the home
After Reading newspaper He will go become next CM of state
After watching sports He plans togo play for Indian Team
Send ALL MEN to Bootcamp for
2 years to ARMY
He will be Really Self Disciplined
Then kids & wives can be happy
U can be yourself ….
ஆணாதிக்க சிந்தனைதான்
I don't like this gentleman
Truee
@@santhijoe9483 0pppp0p
Ok பெண்ணாதிக்கவாதி
@@Swaathi213did u see the video fully
17:35 Cute
Condition la life nadaththa mudiyathu. Nadakkathu
கொடுமையிலும் கொடுமை @ 25 ; 52
கொஞ்ச காலத்திலே அல்லது தள்ளாடும் வயது வந்ததும்
இவன் கால் முடங்கிக் கிடப்பான்...
அந்த குழந்தை பெரியவர்ளாகி இவனை பார்த்துக்கொள்ள வேண்டுமாம்
nic show.....
Comentse❤arumai❤
Lol.. andha voting ku vazhi kaattiyavar 😂.. this show was 2015 and now it is 2023. 😂
கொரானா க்கு பிறகு?
❤
12,❤maniku❤guda❤arivuraikal❤sonnal❤path❤roomil❤vutkarnthu❤sonnal❤amaithiyudan❤kettukolla❤vendum❤
10.52 min ella aanum solla matum tha seivaanga seyala onu irukaadhu 90% aankaluku. Thaan thanathu idha
No Gobi, house must be in order.
Prophet Muhammad told "Don't try to mould your wives because she is created from ribs which have two curves.If you force to mould,it will break"
13:00 இந்த நிமிடத்தில் பேசுபவருக்கு பதட்டம் அதிகமாக உள்ளது.
Athu ennanga vittil
Veetula kulanthainga wife aa lam paathukurathe ella.. Summa naanthan periya aalu.. Naanthan vela seiren... Aan aathikkam than entha mens ku... 🤦♀️🤦♀️
Why does Mr. Gopinath says "Ovavoru thuzhiyilum" instead of "Ovavoru ThuLiyilum"
Most of the anchors also do this same thing now a days, They are thinking that is the correct tamil but that is really wrong... It may be fashion i think
MsSomeone321 Because no one gives a damn about what is correct or right any more. They just do what is expected of them..
Aiyoo antha violet color shirt neega arivu jeevi tha othukarom, konjam thalai lam aati korangu seshta pannathinga....
TV News channel provides only faulse news
*False
1:27:49 intha amma our feminist . Intha amma ku Ella ankal melaium verupu
Elavalum evanauga panra aniyayatha evanta sollanum nu thriuthuga..therinchi thana kalyanam panra mooditu keda....
Is Oviya half mental. I don't think some women even like her speech in some of the items.
ஓவியா அவர்கள் அதிகமாக பெண்ணியம் பேசி மனநோயிற்கு ஆளாகிவிட்டார்கள்.யதார்த்த உலகில் இருந்து ரொம்ப தள்ளி வந்துவிட்டார்கள்.
Jeyamahesan Chandrakanthan She is talking what she talked 10 years back. Now the world and Inida and Tamil women changed lot. They have lot of freedom,if not complete freedom. May be Oviya's husband is not giving her freedom.
PranavaDart Open your minds. Summa Oviya-ve kutham solradhu. Please give an answer to the dowry deaths, female foeticides, sexual harassment, infanticides, rapes and abusive relationships. Also, explain how we only have male heads of state in 95% of the countries and in our own country, women form a SMALLLL number of the high positions in the government, judiciary and legislature. Please explain the gender pay gap that exists even in developing countries. Can a woman get out alone after 8 in your own city? Oru aanal-a mudidhu illa? Where is real equality?
PranavaDart And women deserve complete freedom. "lot of freedom" - I don't know, I doubt that.
very true. She started off as someone who makes sense. But she is offlate becoming one of those eternal activists who see problem and issue with every single event that happens in the world.
She doubts every action of men. I dont know why she doesnt speak about the senior women in villages who dominate younger women, like Mother-in-law or senior female employees dominating juniors in Panchayat, Political offices, Corporation etc.
She talks as if all Women always respect another woman. I have openly seen Women hate another women even in big corporate offices. The reasons behind the hate will be silly.
Male chauvinistic society...yuckkkk...chi thuu
Katherine di thevadiye.
Ok feminaziii
Feminism Pesuravaluga kadaisiya epdi ponaluga yarukuda ponaluga num varalaru iruku..
@@MohamedIrfanHussain male chauvinism pesaravan ethana vappati vechrundhan, avan kudumbam epdi naasama pochu num varalaru iruku
35.00 Gopinath talks about democracy in this show. I won't blame Gopinath but the sad reality this same tv channel has break all the democracy by its one show called BIGG BOSS and the immoral host Kamal
Arivaali naa Idealogical ah..Enna da kambi kattura kathai yellaam solreenga.. Ippadi thappu thappaa English la ezhuthalai nu Ungala yaaru kettaa..Tamil la pottu po
Very interesting & useful discussion.related to life very much needed.
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Mothalla vetla ennena nadakuthunnu parruda mottaingala....
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What a completely biased point of view from writer oviya.She has proved that she is a bonafide feminist..she is probably living in the 1960s still, wonder why they keep inviting her.Insecure people are always insecure be it man or woman but she goes on to say that only men are insecure..If a man praises another woman in front of his wife then obviously she will feel insecure,it's a completely normal thing, the same applies to the husband too ..I am sure that most men these days wont suppress their wives if they are talented,educated and could contribute financially, this is the 21st century for gods sake...She and her feminist theory,she is the one that has lost all touch with reality...
snvp From which period are you coming from......? Are you really this ignorant or are u really pretending to be ignorant?
parvathy nayar
No, i am saying that she is still using the same broad brush to describe all men...Agreed, there was a time when things were bad but now you see thousands of working women, no one is suppressing them,it's not the same scenario you saw in 1960's...
snvp See, there's a role that society asks men and women to fill....For men, it is be the dominating person and for women is the subversive role. Even though its not 1960's there are certain pressures from society which forces a man to be dominant and wife to be subversive. I think that's what Oviya Madam meant..by suppression.. Men had got sensitized. But, society hasn't. Even though they want to cast away those roles..society expects you to maintain it and calls you hen-pecked...So men keeps on playing those roles even though we live in 21 century....like u said. U said that if a man praises another women in front of his wife, she feels insecure.What u don't understand is that the society expects the women to be insecure....But a person who is confident and believes that he/she is a unique person doesn't feel insecurity under those circumstances.
parvathy nayar
Ok fair enough..but she could have conveyed the message in a more subtle way..
snvp yaa I think its partially because there's not enough time for conveying the message before the show ends...
When the ship is drowning, will the feminist accept the offer to be saved first because She's a women? ...or will she reject the offer because she believes in total equality? .. The ones who reject the offer, the ones who seek no extra privileges just because they are women.. are the only women who believe they are equal to men. The rest...are weak cake eaters.
Loosuthanama irku neenga pesradhu. Women have been oppressed for years. If they take the minor benefits given by society, there's nothing wrong in it. Seriously speaking - how many times does the "ship drowning" scenario happen these days? Do we really want to count that against the number of dowry deaths, female foeticides, sexual harassment, infanticides, rapes and abusive relationships? Do the math.
Desdemona oh come on... you speak as if women are saints, female sex criminals, including paedophiles are given a blind eye ..by the law. When a woman commits the same sex crime as a man, she's given a lesser sentence than the one a man gets, so many examples. Especially female paedophiles go unnoticed, because of prejudice in the society.
Desdemona Why should the present generation of men, pay for the mistakes of previous generations? You think it is fair? .. this is like asking the Germans to pay for Nazi crimes.
How do you expect a man to treat a woman equally when she expects privileges from him just because she's a woman?? When she expects privileges, indirectly she's saying she's less than a man or dependent on the man. She's giving the wrong signals.
Women, if they wish to be treated equally, they must stop depending on men for silly things. Start taking responsibilities. Have confidence in themselves.
***** Who is asking men to pay for the mistakes of previous generations? I'm saying there's nothing wrong in giving benefits to people who are oppressed for several generations - the kind of oppression that takes a long time to recover from. Reservations based on caste? Same thing. The rates of crime by women isn't unnoticed - it is actually extremely low - because of the very same reason, historical oppression, controlled by men, limited means and fear (because they're not powerful). If a woman committed a crime, she will be punished. She should be. I'm not denying that at all. Let's still do the numbers. I have no doubts.
Why are men so unwilling to concede that women have been oppressed and be kind enough to let them live? Why are you so unwilling to listen to women's rights activists? Do you not see reality? I can't even walk out safely out of my house after 8. Why? Because society views women as objects that can be violated if it is without the supervision of a male. Do you know how many opportunities women lose to interact with the world, learn and grow merely because of this reason - they're kept at home? Do you think it is fair? Are they actually on an equal footing?
Do you know the number of times parents tell their girl children or others in front of their girl children that it is enough if she passed and got a basic degree to get her married? Do they do the same for boys? Do you know the effect of parental motivation in a child's success?
Stop being blind. Please. You're already in a position of privilege. Be happy. Stop pushing down people who're already struggling in a country that doesn't value women.
Desdemona Position of privilege?..expected to open doors for women, expected to go and fight if the country is at war..expected to go outside and check what's wrong if there's a noise etc .. that's not privileged.
Women were oppressed, True. But why?...Why didn't they fight back or fight enough? If they had fought enough, they would have won. Or did they lose? If they lose..then doesn't that mean women are not equal?
Why are you restraining yourself after eight? Why can't you you defend yourself? Are you physically not fit as a man? then carry a weapon. Defend yourself by any means. Why don't you fight for your freedom? Take the risk. Go out. If someone tries to hurt you, defend yourself. Don't expect the society to change, if you are not prepared to take risks. If every woman starts to defend themselves, you think men would hurt them?
What I think is not fair is that...you and other women, not willing to take risks, not having the will to fight for your freedom.. but expecting the society to change. The society will not change, unless you take drastic steps. Society won't change if women are expecting privileges. Stop expecting privileges. Life is tough. not fair. You must fight your cause.
I am not being blind. I am being honest and pragmatic. Women must prove they are worthy of being treated equally. Start fighting. Talking wont help.
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