CORRECTION! I made a mistake in the video. The Bosch Nyon display does not offer charging for portable electronics. I believe the Micro-USB is only for charging the display or doing firmware updates. The only Bosch displays that do offer third party charging are Purion, Kiox, and Smartphone hub. These details come from a Bosch rep: Purion- no third-party charging Intuvia- 500mA third-party charging Kiox- 1,000mA third-party charging Nyon- no third-party charging Smartphone Hub- 1,500mA third-party charging
I am trying to look objectively at this e-bike but man, the $6.1K starting price is just out there. However, I am sure R&M know their customers, the feature set and build quality they expect and the price that market will bear. I also know that you have to go up and down the e-bike food chain and I have confidence in the credibility and objectivity of your reviews ....whether a budget or boutique bike. BTW, I would never leave this bike out of my sight, EVER 🙂
@@kalapanaguy I bought a Rad Rover Fat Tire just before the Pandemic (before prices and shipping times went crazy) and have since made a couple of performance mods.... considering how much I use it and the fun factor, its the best big ticket item I have bought in the last 5 years. All in, including current upgrades, its cost me $1800..... yeah, $6k is nuts
This one is out of my price range but I've outgrown my Rad with its excessive weight, lousy breaks and smallish battery. If you lived in a nice climate and this was your only form of transportation then maybe.... but I'm probably going with a Specialized. It checks all the boxes for me.
Yeah, it's a lot to spend... but it's also nice to have so many options. I feel like you can configure this platform in ways that no other ebike offers (or at least very few others) and it's tight and clean. My regular bicycle cost $5k when I bought it... and I still ride it every few days and maintain it perfectly. I feel like it was worth the money, but I do store it inside next to my bed so it won't get lifted like my Trek that was stolen after just one ride from inside the garage (they cut the gate) and they also cut the lock... such a bummer, had it less than a week.
Nice bike, but reminds me of the Ride1Up Prodigy ST, for a third of the price. The Prodigy doesn't have the internal gears, but the riding experience is likely similar. Plus, the Brose motor is practically silent. I don't think I could get used to the high-pitched whine of Bosch, but I'm picky about motor noise. It is a great bike, with more battery capacity, and better customer support, but for those on a budget the Prodigy is a good alternative. Great review, as usual!
It's a beautiful machine. Like most of the other commenters, I'm put off by the price, but if I felt comfortable spending that much on a bike, I'm sure I'd enjoy it. I like the belt drive vs. the chain drive, and I wish that were an option on more bikes.
The R&M premium makes sense where they push the envelope (Full Suspension Bikes, their Cargo Bikes, Double Battery Bikes, Smart System, etc) but I have to wonder how many of these they sell. Doesn't feel like great value.
You communicated that very well. However, this seems like a very mainstream bike type... hybrid. It's more affordable than their unique creations (full suspension cargo, for example) so it's like the middle of the bell curve and might attract a wider audience. It reminds me of a Porsche Boxter. More affordable than their other cars, but more generally appealing because it's cheaper and still a Porsche :D
Riese and Muller are so nice looking and thoughtfully designed. Some day, some day......for now I'll be content with my Ride1up series 700 and keep saving my pennies ;-) Great, thorough review as always Court!
5:49 These "one size fit all" fender stay fasteners have no place on a $6000 bike. They pose a constant hazard of entangling riders' and pedestrians' coats, scarves, shopping bags and the like. Nowadays there are a large number of fully integrated and smoothly rounded fender stay fasteners available in the OEM market.
I totally should have noticed that, excellent point! I was focused on the direct mount to the suspension fork lowers and the two stays but their interface with the fender isn't my favorite. Thanks for mentioning it!
Holy s, this thing went up in price! I bought one in 2018 and I think it was only $4700 and it was the class C, 28 mph version. Mine is only 47 pounds - well, more with accessories, but it's light for a powerful ebike. It has no problem reaching 28 MPH top speed and feels more nimble than many of the other bikes I rode - including R&M's more expensive models, which are, IMO, tanks. Dislikes are the Bosch motor can be noisy going up steep grades and I wasn't pleased with having to pay for a firmware upgrade. And the mount for the Intuvia display needed to be replaced. But overall, it's a good bike. But I probably would not buy it again at the new > 6K price.
I don't deny that R&M are a great brand and also an elite brand, but the price point IMO is still way higher than it needs to be. Just for comparison, I live in Europe so whatever brand I choose I am limited to a 250w motor (so the difference in performance is nominal). I own a Radwagon 4 (see Court's review for spec comparison) with:- 4 spare batteries (672W/h). So what I loose in performance I gain in range. 4 spare chargers 4 battery carry cases 2 large baskets 2 large basket bags 2 large cargo platforms 1 front cargo rack 2 large panier bags 2 large cargo nets an upgraded headlight 1 bluetooth media button a set of mirrors a set of footrests 6 spare inner tubes 2 spare tires 2 kryptonite Evolution 4 chain locks a 50w bluetooth speaker a set of bone conductor headphones a set of winglights a quad lock phone mount And the full map package from Komoot. None of these accessories are cheap options (most are Rad Power's own brand accessories, prices available on their website). In total, I still come in approx. 1.5K cheaper than this bike. So cash left over for the latest iphone. If I wanted I could also improve the performance of my motor by purchasing an Eggrider (although I do not feel the need to do so) and upgrade other parts (brakes, suspension seatpost etc.) and still come in cheaper than the price point offered here. Also, bear in mind that to buy a R&M model that offers the same utility and configuration options that my Rad offers would also increase this price difference significantly. Yes, R&M and similar brands use better quality parts but there is no way that you can convince me that those parts or the difference in real world performance justify that kind of price difference. In terms of real world performance (and to use the often used analogy), the difference between a high end sportscar and a Honda Prius is vast but the difference between these two bikes is not when all is said and done. Although what price for a status symbol, well I guess that is up to the individual 💰😎😁 As a disclaimer I do not work for or am not paid to sponsor Rad Power Bikes, I am just using them because that is what I have and so know my details to be correct for this comparison. BTW. great video Court, as always. I have followed your channel for a number of years and it was your review that convinced me that the Rad 4 was the bike that offered exactly the spec for me. Thank you, the bike has improved my life more than you could know, it's a real workhorse.🚲💨😎👍
Wow, you've got the bike lifestyle going! Quit the setup, thank you so much for sharing all of the details. I do lean towards good value when it comes to cars and bikes... because they could get scratched, crashed, stolen etc. and I don't want to be afraid to use them. My current automobile is a 2004 Toyota Corolla with high mileage, and I can always park up front without caring if the doors are dinged. I get good gas mileage, and if there's a fender bender I won't lose as much to insurance deductible and mismatched appraisal. I love R&M stuff, and depending on my house situation and use, it could definitely be worth the money, but I love the utility and affordability of many other products. I'm glad that you're happy with the value on the RadWagon and it's holding up well. I think they have a good ecosystem and very reasonable support for the price.
I had a Roadster and replaced it with a Vado (non-SL) thinking the motor would be quieter. Wrong! I miss the Roadster. Great handling bike that's not too big or heavy and handles like a non-assisted bike. But not cheap.
Any recommendations for finding comfort on swept back handlebars? I recently bought a new ebike with swept back style and I feel numb/tingling sensations after rides. I’m still finding the traditional flat bars more comfortable especially since I like to lean a little while riding. But I hear from so many people swept back handlebars are more comfortable. Any tips?
Yeah, and I think the Roadster would be a good contender. Great hardware, excellent frame, top of the line drive system from Bosch. I got a full suspension mountain bike about 8 years ago from Haibike (which also used Bosch) and then gave it to my Uncle. He has commuted to work with it, ridden long trails, off-road, and it's still going strong. He replaced the chain, derailleur, and upgraded from PowerePack 400 to 500 when range began to dip after 5 years, but it's still going. The Bosch motors have gotten more durable since then, according to a repair guy I know. Here's the video with my uncle talking about his Haibike ua-cam.com/video/RuSKCSFuxdY/v-deo.html
I hope to do more in the future, right now the area I'm at just does't have that many shops that sell them, and I don't have any friends nearby that own them. I will do some more in the future though. Thanks for the request!!
Thanks, please don’t forget Plano,Texas has the only direct sale for velomobiles in the US for most European manufacturers. Also, we have a healthy large population of recumbents and trails we ride them on. By the way do you have a link on where you got your riding glasses? Thanks
I bought a Gazelle Ultimate 380 plus thanks to your review. I Purchased used with 90 miles, 2021 model for $3,400 out-the-door last Summer. I don’t see any features on the $6.5k e-bike that my Gazelle does not come equipped. Maybe the display is a little nicer. I have the Bosch black and white display on the left but it serves just fine. I did purchase a Suntour shock seat post and replaced the seat with a Specialized cup, but I am still under $3 600 and new they are $1,500 less and I believe the Gazelle 380 plus offers the same features I am seeing on a much more expensive bike. Am I missing something?
Nice bike, although maybe waiting for an update [bigger batteries and enviolo automatic (ones you getting used to that..)] could make sense, although that could increase the price even further beyond reach ;-).
Good points, I actually like the Gen 4 Bosch stuff, the new Smart System upgrades battery capacity to 750 watt hours with some added weight, and the display is nice, but you only have one choice (Kiox 300) instead of the Nyon here with touch screen and GPS and phone charging!
I believe that this particular build costs about $400 more than the base price. So the total is roughly $6500 USD. It has the rear rack, comfort package (handlebar, ergo grips, suspension seatpost), and upgraded Nyon display!
i don't know why but i don't like the suspension forks-for any bike actually. i've always use road bikes and the least i'd be okay with are tech found in gravel bikes mainly the future shock since i own one of those gravel bikes from specialized. they're subtle and not obvious..aesthetically i just like a bike to look like A BIKE. for me it's an automatic turn off to pass up on the bike when i see these. but aside from that..this bike is legit. id totally get it if i had money to spare.
Yeah, I like the headset shock from Specialized a lot! The Lauf is also cool. At least this is a decent spring fork with some adjustability, and lockout :)
Cool! I'll keep an eye out for that one. I have covered similar ones here electricbikereview.com/cube/kathmandu-hybrid-45-625/ and here electricbikereview.com/cube/kathmandu-hybrid-pro-625/ perhaps it can help in the meantime :)
Hi, friends. It looks like neither the web review nor this YT review indicates whether this ebike meets UL 2849 or EN 15194 certification. Given the July 15th NBDA statement to retailers and the industry, you really need to indicate which bikes meet UL standards or any European standards (which I gather are evolving). Really. It doesn't take much, and you'll be serving your viewers/readers better.
All of the Bosch E-bike products are UL certified. They were the only E-Bike equipment mfg meeting UL standards before requirements were set by governing authorities. i.e. they did it without being told to do it.
That's just one option, you can get it with a more basic Purion or the Bosch Smartphone Hub. I think this is just the latest most refined R&M Roadster. They are always expensive, because they are considered "the best" by many, because the designs are so good.
@@jcoats5529 While I think that's a silly argument to make that there is no point to buying an expensive bike because it can be stolen.... even a kryptonite lock is not going to stop a determined thief. I would say if you are a regular commuter and you need to lock it up outside in heavily trafficked areas get a cheaper bike.
When I hear this motor it’s over. I really can’t understand how people can accept this horrible Bosch CX sound. From my perspective, it’s also the wrong motor for such a bike. There are way less noisier options even at Botsch.
Yeah, they do different things. This is like an Audi or Mercedes sports car of the ebike world, so the price is scaled to match the quality and performance. Even if it was priced equivalent to a used Honda Civic... it's just not the same thing :)
CORRECTION! I made a mistake in the video. The Bosch Nyon display does not offer charging for portable electronics. I believe the Micro-USB is only for charging the display or doing firmware updates. The only Bosch displays that do offer third party charging are Purion, Kiox, and Smartphone hub. These details come from a Bosch rep:
Purion- no third-party charging
Intuvia- 500mA third-party charging
Kiox- 1,000mA third-party charging
Nyon- no third-party charging
Smartphone Hub- 1,500mA third-party charging
I am trying to look objectively at this e-bike but man, the $6.1K starting price is just out there. However, I am sure R&M know their customers, the feature set and build quality they expect and the price that market will bear. I also know that you have to go up and down the e-bike food chain and I have confidence in the credibility and objectivity of your reviews ....whether a budget or boutique bike. BTW, I would never leave this bike out of my sight, EVER 🙂
I paid 1,000 for my e bike 27 gears and I get 60 miles to a charge. Just curious what the extra 5,000 gets
@@kalapanaguy I bought a Rad Rover Fat Tire just before the Pandemic (before prices and shipping times went crazy) and have since made a couple of performance mods.... considering how much I use it and the fun factor, its the best big ticket item I have bought in the last 5 years. All in, including current upgrades, its cost me $1800..... yeah, $6k is nuts
This one is out of my price range but I've outgrown my Rad with its excessive weight, lousy breaks and smallish battery. If you lived in a nice climate and this was your only form of transportation then maybe.... but I'm probably going with a Specialized. It checks all the boxes for me.
Yeah, it's a lot to spend... but it's also nice to have so many options. I feel like you can configure this platform in ways that no other ebike offers (or at least very few others) and it's tight and clean. My regular bicycle cost $5k when I bought it... and I still ride it every few days and maintain it perfectly. I feel like it was worth the money, but I do store it inside next to my bed so it won't get lifted like my Trek that was stolen after just one ride from inside the garage (they cut the gate) and they also cut the lock... such a bummer, had it less than a week.
This bike should not cost more than $4500 max.
Nice bike, but reminds me of the Ride1Up Prodigy ST, for a third of the price. The Prodigy doesn't have the internal gears, but the riding experience is likely similar. Plus, the Brose motor is practically silent. I don't think I could get used to the high-pitched whine of Bosch, but I'm picky about motor noise. It is a great bike, with more battery capacity, and better customer support, but for those on a budget the Prodigy is a good alternative. Great review, as usual!
Thank-You Court, great post. Gregg from Fullerton California.
Thanks Gregg! Hope you're well, miss Fullerton, want some Rutabegorz :D
It's a beautiful machine. Like most of the other commenters, I'm put off by the price, but if I felt comfortable spending that much on a bike, I'm sure I'd enjoy it. I like the belt drive vs. the chain drive, and I wish that were an option on more bikes.
The R&M premium makes sense where they push the envelope (Full Suspension Bikes, their Cargo Bikes, Double Battery Bikes, Smart System, etc) but I have to wonder how many of these they sell. Doesn't feel like great value.
You communicated that very well. However, this seems like a very mainstream bike type... hybrid. It's more affordable than their unique creations (full suspension cargo, for example) so it's like the middle of the bell curve and might attract a wider audience. It reminds me of a Porsche Boxter. More affordable than their other cars, but more generally appealing because it's cheaper and still a Porsche :D
Riese and Muller are so nice looking and thoughtfully designed. Some day, some day......for now I'll be content with my Ride1up series 700 and keep saving my pennies ;-) Great, thorough review as always Court!
Thanks Matthew! Definitely a top of the line specimen here. The Ride1Up 700 was a great choice, I hope it's working out well for you :)
This bike is so sexy, but for a price like 6k, I would like the bike to include all those accessories, also a little bit over 20mph would be cool to.
I feel ya, and they do offer it with the Bosch Speed motor version... for a bit more ;)
5:49 These "one size fit all" fender stay fasteners have no place on a $6000 bike. They pose a constant hazard of entangling riders' and pedestrians' coats, scarves, shopping bags and the like. Nowadays there are a large number of fully integrated and smoothly rounded fender stay fasteners available in the OEM market.
I totally should have noticed that, excellent point! I was focused on the direct mount to the suspension fork lowers and the two stays but their interface with the fender isn't my favorite. Thanks for mentioning it!
Holy s, this thing went up in price! I bought one in 2018 and I think it was only $4700 and it was the class C, 28 mph version. Mine is only 47 pounds - well, more with accessories, but it's light for a powerful ebike. It has no problem reaching 28 MPH top speed and feels more nimble than many of the other bikes I rode - including R&M's more expensive models, which are, IMO, tanks. Dislikes are the Bosch motor can be noisy going up steep grades and I wasn't pleased with having to pay for a firmware upgrade. And the mount for the Intuvia display needed to be replaced. But overall, it's a good bike. But I probably would not buy it again at the new > 6K price.
I don't deny that R&M are a great brand and also an elite brand, but the price point IMO is still way higher than it needs to be.
Just for comparison, I live in Europe so whatever brand I choose I am limited to a 250w motor (so the difference in performance is nominal). I own a Radwagon 4 (see Court's review for spec comparison) with:-
4 spare batteries (672W/h). So what I loose in performance I gain in range.
4 spare chargers
4 battery carry cases
2 large baskets
2 large basket bags
2 large cargo platforms
1 front cargo rack
2 large panier bags
2 large cargo nets
an upgraded headlight
1 bluetooth media button
a set of mirrors
a set of footrests
6 spare inner tubes
2 spare tires
2 kryptonite Evolution 4 chain locks
a 50w bluetooth speaker
a set of bone conductor headphones
a set of winglights
a quad lock phone mount
And the full map package from Komoot.
None of these accessories are cheap options (most are Rad Power's own brand accessories, prices available on their website).
In total, I still come in approx. 1.5K cheaper than this bike. So cash left over for the latest iphone.
If I wanted I could also improve the performance of my motor by purchasing an Eggrider (although I do not feel the need to do so) and upgrade other parts (brakes, suspension seatpost etc.) and still come in cheaper than the price point offered here.
Also, bear in mind that to buy a R&M model that offers the same utility and configuration options that my Rad offers would also increase this price difference significantly.
Yes, R&M and similar brands use better quality parts but there is no way that you can convince me that those parts or the difference in real world performance justify that kind of price difference.
In terms of real world performance (and to use the often used analogy), the difference between a high end sportscar and a Honda Prius is vast but the difference between these two bikes is not when all is said and done. Although what price for a status symbol, well I guess that is up to the individual 💰😎😁
As a disclaimer I do not work for or am not paid to sponsor Rad Power Bikes, I am just using them because that is what I have and so know my details to be correct for this comparison.
BTW. great video Court, as always. I have followed your channel for a number of years and it was your review that convinced me that the Rad 4 was the bike that offered exactly the spec for me. Thank you, the bike has improved my life more than you could know, it's a real workhorse.🚲💨😎👍
Wow, you've got the bike lifestyle going! Quit the setup, thank you so much for sharing all of the details. I do lean towards good value when it comes to cars and bikes... because they could get scratched, crashed, stolen etc. and I don't want to be afraid to use them. My current automobile is a 2004 Toyota Corolla with high mileage, and I can always park up front without caring if the doors are dinged. I get good gas mileage, and if there's a fender bender I won't lose as much to insurance deductible and mismatched appraisal.
I love R&M stuff, and depending on my house situation and use, it could definitely be worth the money, but I love the utility and affordability of many other products. I'm glad that you're happy with the value on the RadWagon and it's holding up well. I think they have a good ecosystem and very reasonable support for the price.
I had a Roadster and replaced it with a Vado (non-SL) thinking the motor would be quieter. Wrong! I miss the Roadster. Great handling bike that's not too big or heavy and handles like a non-assisted bike. But not cheap.
The big guns
Yeah, top of the line hybrid here ;)
Any recommendations for finding comfort on swept back handlebars? I recently bought a new ebike with swept back style and I feel numb/tingling sensations after rides. I’m still finding the traditional flat bars more comfortable especially since I like to lean a little while riding. But I hear from so many people swept back handlebars are more comfortable. Any tips?
If you're paying $6K+ for an electric bike it better be problem-free for at least 10 years or 10K miles.
Yeah, and I think the Roadster would be a good contender. Great hardware, excellent frame, top of the line drive system from Bosch. I got a full suspension mountain bike about 8 years ago from Haibike (which also used Bosch) and then gave it to my Uncle. He has commuted to work with it, ridden long trails, off-road, and it's still going strong. He replaced the chain, derailleur, and upgraded from PowerePack 400 to 500 when range began to dip after 5 years, but it's still going. The Bosch motors have gotten more durable since then, according to a repair guy I know. Here's the video with my uncle talking about his Haibike ua-cam.com/video/RuSKCSFuxdY/v-deo.html
How come no recumbents or very little? I would like to see some Velomobiles too. Great videos and reviews. Thanks for the great content.
I hope to do more in the future, right now the area I'm at just does't have that many shops that sell them, and I don't have any friends nearby that own them. I will do some more in the future though. Thanks for the request!!
Thanks, please don’t forget Plano,Texas has the only direct sale for velomobiles in the US for most European manufacturers. Also, we have a healthy large population of recumbents and trails we ride them on. By the way do you have a link on where you got your riding glasses? Thanks
I bought a Gazelle Ultimate 380 plus thanks to your review.
I Purchased used with 90 miles, 2021 model for $3,400 out-the-door last Summer.
I don’t see any features on the $6.5k e-bike that my Gazelle does not come equipped.
Maybe the display is a little nicer. I have the Bosch black and white display on the left but it serves just fine.
I did purchase a Suntour shock seat post and replaced the seat with a Specialized cup, but I am still under $3 600 and new they are $1,500 less and I believe the Gazelle 380 plus offers the same features I am seeing on a much more expensive bike.
Am I missing something?
This is a premium brand and cannot be compared to a Walmart e-bike
Nice bike, although maybe waiting for an update [bigger batteries and enviolo automatic (ones you getting used to that..)] could make sense, although that could increase the price even further beyond reach ;-).
Good points, I actually like the Gen 4 Bosch stuff, the new Smart System upgrades battery capacity to 750 watt hours with some added weight, and the display is nice, but you only have one choice (Kiox 300) instead of the Nyon here with touch screen and GPS and phone charging!
I have three bikes, all with Gates belts instead of chains. I will never go back to a bike with a chain.
So this bike costs around 8k?
I believe that this particular build costs about $400 more than the base price. So the total is roughly $6500 USD. It has the rear rack, comfort package (handlebar, ergo grips, suspension seatpost), and upgraded Nyon display!
@@ElectricBikeReview ok, thank you! I enjoy watching your videos. Appreciate all your hard work.
i don't know why but i don't like the suspension forks-for any bike actually. i've always use road bikes and the least i'd be okay with are tech found in gravel bikes mainly the future shock since i own one of those gravel bikes from specialized. they're subtle and not obvious..aesthetically i just like a bike to look like A BIKE. for me it's an automatic turn off to pass up on the bike when i see these. but aside from that..this bike is legit. id totally get it if i had money to spare.
Yeah, I like the headset shock from Specialized a lot! The Lauf is also cool. At least this is a decent spring fork with some adjustability, and lockout :)
So bosch are going too discontinue the old generation???
your favorite phrase is "a little bit".
these really are the Rolls Royce of ebikes..
how is the black screen with bold white font in the sunlight..? So many are hard to see in the direct sun.
Can u Review Cube kathmandu hybrid sl 750
Cool! I'll keep an eye out for that one. I have covered similar ones here electricbikereview.com/cube/kathmandu-hybrid-45-625/ and here electricbikereview.com/cube/kathmandu-hybrid-pro-625/ perhaps it can help in the meantime :)
Ya I'd like to see some more pack bikes reviews
Hi, friends. It looks like neither the web review nor this YT review indicates whether this ebike meets UL 2849 or EN 15194 certification. Given the July 15th NBDA statement to retailers and the industry, you really need to indicate which bikes meet UL standards or any European standards (which I gather are evolving). Really. It doesn't take much, and you'll be serving your viewers/readers better.
All of the Bosch E-bike products are UL certified. They were the only E-Bike equipment mfg meeting UL standards before requirements were set by governing authorities.
i.e. they did it without being told to do it.
Not my cup of tea...it's a bit too rich for me. It seems the selling point is the 'new' screen
That's just one option, you can get it with a more basic Purion or the Bosch Smartphone Hub. I think this is just the latest most refined R&M Roadster. They are always expensive, because they are considered "the best" by many, because the designs are so good.
@@ElectricBikeReview yeah I saw the options...and I'd never have that tamagotchi display on a 5k bike lol...what bike do you use out of interest?
@@ricksanchez3628 Court doesn't have an ebike. He rides a Stump Jumper last I heard him say. But I think he a big fan of Specialized anyway
@@jcoats5529 you come across as jealous
6,000 for a bike that will be ripped off in seconds. Not a bike for the average person
Why would it get ripped off? Just need the Kryptonite NYC lock.
Bait bike?!
@@jcoats5529 While I think that's a silly argument to make that there is no point to buying an expensive bike because it can be stolen.... even a kryptonite lock is not going to stop a determined thief. I would say if you are a regular commuter and you need to lock it up outside in heavily trafficked areas get a cheaper bike.
The Giant Explore for half the price is a better bike, IMO.
But 6K Dollars. It's a silly price. Silly silly silly.
When I hear this motor it’s over. I really can’t understand how people can accept this horrible Bosch CX sound. From my perspective, it’s also the wrong motor for such a bike. There are way less noisier options even at Botsch.
Buy a car for that price tag no thanks .. 🙂
Yeah, they do different things. This is like an Audi or Mercedes sports car of the ebike world, so the price is scaled to match the quality and performance. Even if it was priced equivalent to a used Honda Civic... it's just not the same thing :)
$6.1k and you don’t even get USB C 🫠