Quantifying Florida State's ineptitude at Quarterback | Young players shine
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I'm starting to get the impression that Bud doesn't like the decision to keep starting DJ.
Who would? He's trash
Any logical thinking human would agree.
lol no man he’s just giving DJ pointers. DJ is a huge nolecast listener.
Idk maybe Norvell should give it another 7-8 games just to be sure
What could possibly make you think that?’ lol
Fantastic stuff, Bud. This brings nostalgia for your old Tomahawk Nation analysis articles.
I noticed the increase on offensive pace early in the game. I feel that is the right calls and doesn’t allow DJ to overthink the reads. I also think the more snaps the offense has, the less important individual play success rate becomes. In the previous 3 games with less snaps it magnifies the importance of execution of each play which this team struggles at currently.
7 points to show for it.
You can tell Mike hasn’t really dealt with a player with the “yips” like DJ has. He needs to sit and it is mind blowing that he continues to trot him out there
Bud is giving DJ the full Weatherford and I’m totally here for it
What’s crazy is that Drew Weatherford led better offenses than this one 😂
@@philflipshouses true 😭😭😭
Early played very well, Nicholson is the best LB we have, Q Jones is a DAWG, Payton was awesome and I loved the way Fuller used him. The only person who played well on offense besides Early was Douglas.
FBA/B1
They were huddling every play, the first couple of games, first time we have done that in years
It seems that DJU is struggling to process the defense and the options with offense.
I would say play Brock in series and packages to see if it works.
Of the 7ish accurate dropped passes how many are morlock ? 50%?
Kyle More Drops!!!
Opposing defenses "cheat" on our offense every play because DJU is NOT a running threat. How could Mike Norvell pick a non-mobile QB for his offense ???
I do like Toafili and Cam as 1/2
I don't, Kam has 16 carries for 48 yrds what excites you about that and he doesn't block well at all. LT outside of the 28 yrs td run against GA Tech has not been that good either.
When a soldier's shot pattern looks similar to what DJU's does on a target sheet, we say, "that looks like rat shit in a dresser drawer". EVERYTHING is wrong with the technique. Breath control, trigger pull, sight alignment, sight picture, etc, etc,etc. DJU's got some marksmanship issues.
Thanks Bug. Keeping it real
Woah disagree with the kentron take he’s been our most consistent receiver if we are being honest
He is a jag
@@BudElliottCFB yeah that’s fair but besides jakhi don’t think anybody else on the receiving core has proven much. But that could just be more on the play calling/DJ than anything
When DJ plays and everyone else executes and we still lose then pull him. As long as balls are bouncing off receivers hands you can’t blame him. Every play counts.
Ahhh here you are. Your Miami trolling hasn’t been the same this year. What gives?
Mario will do the trolling for me. Get your hopes up vs trash teams then implode. 🤡
@@JohnnyBushwhacker-yv6bc lol. Trash teams. Like Memphis? FSU would be home dogs to UF. Then again, fsu is trash so you may be right.
the increased pace helped early in the game
How bad is Brock if he can’t replace what we have?
Why didn't we incorporate some veer and shoot looks with this team? I'm not saying Mike remake the whole offense in the offseason, but it pretty much gives DJ an easy read presnap so they can just snap and throw. He has the arm strength to get it there.
Not a system you can just choose to run
It’s amusing that only fsu fans didn’t see this coming. Trolling aside, I asked fsu fans all summer to identify an actual recruit that was recruited and developed by MN. I got none. Everyone insisted he worked magic on JT Verse and Wilson. MN was the only one who didn’t seem to understand who DJU was. Truly amazing.
Mastromanno
Well, to be fair, Jai Kai Douglas was in Norvells first class and he caught the game winning TD against Cal. Kalen Deloach came in the year b4 Norvell but stuck around. He scooped up that game saving td last yr against Clemson. Duffy and Tate, both recruited by Norvell, did suck though. Pat Payton, our best, de, was recruited by Norvell. AZ and Shyheim, two of our best dbs were recruited by can. Our bust rate maybe a little high, but it's not much more than other schools.
@@robertfleischer-g8f I think from a recruiting perspective, being in year 5, the bust rate is way too high, especially considering the classes were not too great to begin with. Almost all of the main contributors that led up to and included the 13-0 run were transfers. Miami is taking a similar “all in” approach this season as fsu did last year, however our freshman are getting a ton of burn. Lyle (rb) got two series against UF and remains in the rotation with a 91 yd td last game. . OJ Fred is starting CB. Justin Scott is getting in the mix. I can already tell you who is likely going to be the players to step into roles next season based on how we’ve played our freshman. Last year fsu had the least amount of freshman snaps in the Acc. That IMO shows norvell either recruited too poorly to trust his young players or is poor at development so they were not ready, which is a large part for the 0-3 start.
@@tlobrill1 Fair enough. It is what it is. You have recruited some good young players and they are getting playing time. But the Canes also probably have the highest (or one of the highest) NIL payouts in the nation. So let's not get too smug about your sudden surge to the top. We lost out on some of the top recruits in the nation due to NIL (Travis Hunter ring a bell). If we had your NIL , Cam Ward would have signed with us. If there wasn't NIL, Cristobal would have already been run out of town. Imagine if you had started one of those scrubs from last yr at qb this yr.
@@robertfleischer-g8f that is factually incorrect. FSU has a top 10 NIL. Money is not the issue, it’s you have idiots who allocate that money. Bud is the only person I’ve ever seen spew that Miami has a 20 million roster. Gaby Uruitia has shot that down, responding to me directly in a 247 thread. Our NiL is closer than you’re led to believe. Additionally Cam Ward was never coming to FSU. At best he used it as leverage for more NIL from us. He has stated that the reason to come to Miami was he wanted to play behind a good Oline (ours is Better than yours) and he wanted to return to proven production. Miami returned the highest producing wr combo in George and X in the entire country. Not Acc. Country. You never had a chance at ward had you had our NIL. It’s actually funny you would say if it wasn’t for NIL Mario would be gone. He is one of the most respected recruiters in the nation MN had less wins than Mario in his first two seasons and recruited horribly. NIL bailed YOU out of firing your coach by buying players like Fisk verse Coleman etc.
Hey at least Im about 100% sure Im gonna win a lot of money betting on clemson vs us like I did against Ga but wish it was other way like in 2013
I quit watching at half time and was sincerely shocked that we won. And if Mike’s plan is to keep DJ in until we play Clemson, well when Clemson stomps and mud hole in us and walk it dry can we see finally Brock Glenn
We need to get these metrics infront of Mike and company. We can’t continue winning by barely putting up double digits. Mike needs to start making tough decisions.
600,000 Vietnamese Dong = $24.39
Mike Norvell is a Jordan Travis merchant. The real QB killer
Bud, do you think Norvell is not running Brock out situationally now, and waiting to do so during Clemson, so they will not have any tape to prep for?
How can EVERYBODY see that DJ is horrible and our coaching staff can’t it’s madness. I’ve seen glaciers move faster than this guy. I just don’t get
I kind of wish he would have went to Alabama. Sorry but i have no confidence in Mikes play calling and decision making. He's lost me. He's the definition of Insanity! Unacceptable on so many levels.
Maybe this is just what the team and DJU are going to be this season. Sometimes you have to believe people when they show you who they are.
Now a better question is does Brock and Luke transfer next year if Mike goes to the portal again for another qb, and the reason I ask is because if Brock can get any PT on this terrible offensive then maybe he’s not the answer either.
DJU is a 5th year Senior with a ton of starts. If he aint figured it out by now it aint gonna happen. NIL, ego and misplaced loyalty are in play here. All yall saying everyone else needs to be perfect before we criticize him are crazy. No QB gets perfect pass pro, wide open recievers, no dropped passes, etc. A QB with that much exp should be adding way more value. Just look at his feet when he throws, its very telling.
It’s funny you said that.. I told my friends that they are going tempo to give DJ easy reads. He’s also terrible in the RPO.. it was a couple of times he should have handed off the ball. We missed big gains on that.
After watching the Cal game again, dju was in all fairness was better in this game. Imho. Of course, he missed the wide open bomb. He lacks any true mobility. And his rpo (if its rpo) looks shaky. Still too many busted plays with no gain. But if we didnt have that holding call or whatever on the 2nd or 3rd drive near the goal line, we could have put the game away early. I think dju threw a pick right after that. The sacks were pretty sad though😅
Only thing 'FSU' I can watch. Thx Bud.
The only power 5 team who has scored less than us is Kent state… let that sink in
Drops, poor passing, poor offensive line play
We had 7 drops in ONE game so to say he only threw 7 catchable balls that were dropped on the season is false lmao also choosing to nitpick ONE half instead of the entire game is hilarious as well lmao he brought up YAC as well as if the WRs have had any separation all year. Bud sound like all the rest of the hurt fans who think they know better than the coaching staff. Overemphasized DJU negatives but not the other positions on offense lmao
Unbelievable... All because they want to see a QB that has been WORSE in practice than DJ. Bud is being an a-hole
@@deeward1098 frfr. I get DJU ain't been the best but obviously coaches feel he still give us the best shot to win so all this unnecessary hate towards DJU just overboard
Why is Blake NOT a starter going forward!?? We still getting caught on 3rd and long with 10 and 9 on the field!
Please share this podcast with coach Mike Norvell!!
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Well that was pretty damning.
Of the drops on target. Two are from Darrion Williamson. 3 are from Morlock. I believe 1 is from Benson.
Lt dropped a gimme, Kam Davis also in the prior games, which were huge.
Hearing the receivers are not great is a cop out. The QB makes the others go, Nole Nation knew this was an epic fail when DJU was announced as a transfer.
No it isn’t. Both the WR and QB play is below ACC average… Both things can be true.
How many of those on target drops are morlock?
Probably three or four, which is strange because I thought he had good hands. But they were all drive killers.
Hey Bud, why don't you go apply for Mike's job since you obviously think you know better. I'm ready for all of you to stop crying.
You underplay the deficiencies of the entire rest of the offense and overplay DJU's negative effect on the game man open your eyes. Him missing a few reads/throws does not equate to the severity of everything else going wrong on the offense through first 3 weeks.
DJ makes the rest of the offense look worse than they are. Holds the ball too long, stares down receiver every time, slow release, always late, throws ball away when he still has time, he even kills run plays by handing off super slow
The truth is that it's way easier to blame the QB than the $10 million coach who assembled this mess. Mike and Co have done a horrid job of HS recruiting and got outbid this past recruiting cycle in the portal. So now FSU is stuck with the worst offense in the Power 4, and Mike can't be fired because they just gave him a crazy extension.
Bud forgets to mention the negative impact having an Oline that can't block or run the ball and WR/TE/RB's can't consistently catch, get separation or block on the perimeter. Let's see Brocks ball placement radar data from the Louisville and UGA game. BG is not playing for a reason, he HAS NOT GAINED ENOUGH TRUST FROM THE COACHES IN PRACTICE. If MN thought he was an offseason away from being a starter he wouldn't have gotten DJU.
Bud has called out the o line in almost every podcast he has done. It’s not good and unfortunately shows DJs true tendencies
DJU must have compromising pictures of Norvell. Otherwise. Why the fuck is he still playing?