It really sucks seeing this game potentially dying. me and my dad are big time gamers and Apex has been the only game we have genuinely enjoyed playing together since Fortnite had chapter 2. I hope respawn and ea will take a u-turn and make actual content and not overpriced events and cosmetics.
All these things like audio problems, cheaters, MM problems, MnK vs controller, etc have been cooking for a while but as Respawn or EA didt care in fixing any of those over the years it all grow up together to a point that it makes the game a pain to play. There are far too many issues and only a cheater and people who dont give a fk and buy anything they see could enjoy the game in it state.
if they get a better ani cheat and dont change the battle pass because of pros complaining and also add wall running, i game would be better off. EA thinks apex is not making enough money to pay the pro out right for agls. most of the pros haven't received there winnings and i don't know what's truly going on but, if they really want everyone to get paid they need to take the pubg route. i know pubg is not that big in the US but it is in the west. they need took at it from their perspective. they did something similar but the made it free. apex pros got to colab with artist to make some skins in apex but they didnt charge for them. in pubg pros and teams have skins and they get a cut of the proceeds. also in pubg when they have their world cup, players from all over can buy skins for that event, and a portion of that does to prize pool so not all of the winings are out of there pocket. for ex... prize pool will start at 2M and after the community buys skins and packs it goes up to 5M or something. players in like 10th place would originally get like 10k-15k but now its 20k-30k and everyone's happy. instead of forcing people to buy the battlepass, provide more options for the whales and give them the opportunity to show there support. like if you agree.
I have 2 answers for you. If you haven’t then start playing Revenant and stick to him for your wall runs. If you don’t like that answer then start learning movement. And every pro player got paid. No idea why you don’t keep up with the community if you want to voice about the community.
@shenchan8193 still to this day, not every pro got paid lock again. And I main rev and octane. I'm just saying that movement should be tied to a skill gap or characters. Peeps still want TF2 movement. For the average player, they don't have time to learn all of this, and for some people, they don't even want to bind jump to scroll wheel. Also fyi you don't need rev to wall run.
Every other game goes to 100+ ping for me. And it feels like its host advantage. I play on dallas and get put into other servers randomly, i guess its a thing to help find a game quicker, but i think its the cause of the lag, allowing people from all over the world to pick their servers. I never feel that on games that force you on the nereast servers
I played the game for many years and stopped a few seasons ago. It's the best fps I've ever played but the sbmm is too much and all they care about is charging for skins that probably take an hour to make. I'm getting too old and slow to be only playing against people that are way better than me. I'm not as good as I used to be and no matter how bad I get or how long I don't play after I play two or three games with 3 or 5 kills I end up back in the same lobbies that are impossible to have fun or do well in
All of us veterans knew this game was dead years ago. We kept coming back to see changes. Now they burn their bridges. Plus new games are out. The battlepass is, 100 percent the final mound of dirt in the grave. Also there is no proof they are gonna do good with money from the battlepass. You know this because they have always made money. Goodbye APEX.
I am completely onboard with the changes they make to the game in terms of gameplay and mechanics, the core gameplay is still solid, better than any other FPS game out there imho. I am completely indifferent to the battlepass changes, it was gonna happen someday, it's EA. My main problems with the game are terrible servers (I play from third world country, we have no servers), highly inconsistent matchmaking, audio and losers cheating. It's cool when they make changes to keep the game fresh, but prioritizing battlepass over the huge glaring issues that the community has been constantly vocal about for ages is just tacky management on EA's part. We don't need an upgrade, just repair, that would be enough for now.
Battle pass changes def did it for everyone. The game has been getting worse with greed and not addressing issues. The amount of cheaters and Cronus users and zen users is insane. They need a theater mode or something to help catch cheaters. Review booths. I’ll buy a battle pass if I have a game to play. Pubs is to boring and easy and ranked is full of cheaters right when you hit diamond it’s unplayable. I see controller kids beaming across the map and clearly walling and I’ll see them in my lobbies for weeks. It’s not fun.
1. Is Apex dying? Maybe a little but it's also been out for years. It can't stay on top forever. But it's far from dead. 2. What is causing it to die? - For PC players, cheaters. For console players, SBMM is terrible causing the casuals to leave. 3. Am I buying the battle pass? Yes. 4. What do I think about the Battle Pass? - The battle pass change itself is a good change. The idea of having to pay money instead of getting it free is the issue people seem to have which I think is sad and I'll explain below. To address the battle pass changes first, In the battle pass we get double the crafting metals, 3 more apex packs than before, 3 thematic packs we didn't get before, but only 1 reactive skin (per BP), and everything else is basically the same but we get it in 60 levels instead of 110.... Sounds great to me. Then at mid-season you can do it all again basically getting more than double the items we got before. Nobody can tell me that's not a good thing. It gives us more of the good items each half season than we got all season with the old BP and less of the crap. Now the issue of having to pay using money instead of an in-game currency we get from playing a free-to-play game.... In my opinion the battle pass is worth $10. Honestly it's the best priced thing we can buy in the game. 1 Legendary Item costs $18. If you get both battle passes for $20 you get 4800 crafting metals. That's enough to buy 4 Legendary Items which would typically cost $72 ($18 each), plus a reactive skin that is more than a legendary, not including whatever skins are already in the BP so we get our money's worth. If your argument is that you can't afford the battle pass and somehow that ruins the experience for you, you have other issues. Maybe play games less and work on your personal finances a little more. This is coming from someone that has 2 kids that also play Apex so I purchase the BP 3x each season. Now a quick mention of the Premium+ BP.... It has always been dumb to me since it just gives us the same items just faster, but now they're giving bonus stuff which may or not be worth it depending on the person. If I didn't have every Legend unlocked it may be worth it but I've been able to use all the "free" Apex coins to purchase every single legend in the game so it's still not worth it to me just its a cool addition for someone new to the game wants to try out all the Legends before committing to buying one. I'm not saying Apex is perfect. They have a ton of other issues that need addressing, and soon, but this BP change is not a bad change IMO. The game needs change and most of the changes they've made over the years have been good for the game. Now lets focus of the cheaters and SBMM for starters
Yes, to be honest, I agree with the battle pass changes because, according to my calculations, it is worth more than the old battle pass. In the old battle pass system, we only needed to buy it once and could use the coins we earned from the previous battle pass for the next one. This meant we saved 400 coins each season. However, if there was a skin I liked, I had to use real money to buy it, which cost around $30. In the old battle pass, I would get 400 Apex coins (with the remaining 900 used for the next battle pass) and 1,200 crafting materials. With the new battle pass, I can get 2,600 Apex coins, 2,400 crafting materials, and 20 exotic shards. If I want a skin, I can use the 2,600 Apex coins I get by only paying $20 for the battle pass. Additionally, it states that for the first split, we can get the battle pass for free by completing challenges. This means if you are patient enough to complete the challenges, you only spend $10 to get all of the things I mentioned above.
lot of yap when theres kids who play this game who earn there coins just like me im one but im not gonna stand for making the battle pass completely pay to buy id like an alternative if i cant literally get it
No, no. You mention they're trimming the fat in the battle pass and then giving us more of the same in the second season battle pass; Why not just condense everything into a single season long battle pass? There's nothing good about Respawn jacking up the prices for literally ANYTHING in this game with the issues plagueing it atm. But whales are gonna whale. And cope.
People need to stop with this dying dying dying shit. FPS's in general are dying because all of the cheating there is currently. COD is still around after all those years people have been bashing it and saying "it is dying".
I love apex I left fortnite the Day apex came out ! I believe it is just trends up and down. I don't think it's Dien but ... if they don't fix the cheating or at least work on it and give us way better content and changes it will die ! I don't mind the battle pass change so long the things we get back even out. It's defiantly not a good move on there part but mabe with the money from the new battle pass they will put that towards anti cheat ? Who knows . They defiantly need to step there game up make it refreshing and make alot of new things or it will for sure start to die. The things i hate is meta changes as well which mostly changes when algs uses a meta man . Even if a legend was the same for years if for whatever reason they start getting used alot because of a new comp or a new strat , they nerf the legend or the gun. For instance the havoc was the same forever but just recently it grew in popularity because it because meta because alot of other guns got changes and it made the havoc get used more. But everyone started using it when they see a pro use it ya know . And they nerfed bloodhound when I don't think that was the move. They could of found another way to combat it . The issue wasn't even blood it was Bangalore lol she stays in the meta man but they buffed her by nerfing blood lol i just don't get it . They just need to really really step up make the game diffrent and fun. Not just new maps and guns and legends they have got to expand on that . Oh yea BTW the xim and controller cheating is out of control BTW strike packs everywhere it's sickening. And matchmaking in pubs is getting very aggravating ! I shouldn't play with my 8 year old daughter and have preds in mistape modes. I died to like 7 press in 3 games in solos and all of them had strike packs as well.
In general, i like many of the past changes - no self-revive (was annoying as hell), the new shield system is great too evening the fields instead of someone landing on purple which can lose you a fight, the replicator changes are healthy too, no more running around collecting this and that to craft for 5 minutes. It makes the game A LOT LESS rng which is like personally. However, i do agree they have to find better ways to balance guns, its so frustrating seeing them nerf everything to the ground instead of maybe buff the bad apples? And in Season 21 in particular they really dropped the ball and it seems to get even worse next season. They've been silent for entire season just to tell everyone "hey pay battle pass twice pls"? Anti cheat is disabled, there are cheaters and ddosers everywhere and thats what they want to tell us? To spend more money? Get a f0cking grip mate. Even hardcore Ranked grinders just gave up because they're being chased by cheaters who know they wont get banned.
Honestly the bp is whatever to me. I just want cheaters to be addressed and I want ranked to be better.
Anyone who cares about this situation, write a negative review in the Steam
It really sucks seeing this game potentially dying. me and my dad are big time gamers and Apex has been the only game we have genuinely enjoyed playing together since Fortnite had chapter 2. I hope respawn and ea will take a u-turn and make actual content and not overpriced events and cosmetics.
All these things like audio problems, cheaters, MM problems, MnK vs controller, etc have been cooking for a while but as Respawn or EA didt care in fixing any of those over the years it all grow up together to a point that it makes the game a pain to play. There are far too many issues and only a cheater and people who dont give a fk and buy anything they see could enjoy the game in it state.
if they get a better ani cheat and dont change the battle pass because of pros complaining and also add wall running, i game would be better off. EA thinks apex is not making enough money to pay the pro out right for agls. most of the pros haven't received there winnings and i don't know what's truly going on but, if they really want everyone to get paid they need to take the pubg route. i know pubg is not that big in the US but it is in the west. they need took at it from their perspective. they did something similar but the made it free. apex pros got to colab with artist to make some skins in apex but they didnt charge for them. in pubg pros and teams have skins and they get a cut of the proceeds. also in pubg when they have their world cup, players from all over can buy skins for that event, and a portion of that does to prize pool so not all of the winings are out of there pocket. for ex... prize pool will start at 2M and after the community buys skins and packs it goes up to 5M or something. players in like 10th place would originally get like 10k-15k but now its 20k-30k and everyone's happy. instead of forcing people to buy the battlepass, provide more options for the whales and give them the opportunity to show there support. like if you agree.
I have 2 answers for you. If you haven’t then start playing Revenant and stick to him for your wall runs. If you don’t like that answer then start learning movement.
And every pro player got paid. No idea why you don’t keep up with the community if you want to voice about the community.
@shenchan8193 still to this day, not every pro got paid lock again. And I main rev and octane. I'm just saying that movement should be tied to a skill gap or characters. Peeps still want TF2 movement. For the average player, they don't have time to learn all of this, and for some people, they don't even want to bind jump to scroll wheel. Also fyi you don't need rev to wall run.
Monetize the game how you want with skins.. get rid of the cheaters.
Every other game goes to 100+ ping for me. And it feels like its host advantage.
I play on dallas and get put into other servers randomly, i guess its a thing to help find a game quicker, but i think its the cause of the lag, allowing people from all over the world to pick their servers. I never feel that on games that force you on the nereast servers
i think they mistook „shareholder feedback“ for „community feedback“
I played the game for many years and stopped a few seasons ago. It's the best fps I've ever played but the sbmm is too much and all they care about is charging for skins that probably take an hour to make. I'm getting too old and slow to be only playing against people that are way better than me. I'm not as good as I used to be and no matter how bad I get or how long I don't play after I play two or three games with 3 or 5 kills I end up back in the same lobbies that are impossible to have fun or do well in
All of us veterans knew this game was dead years ago. We kept coming back to see changes. Now they burn their bridges. Plus new games are out. The battlepass is, 100 percent the final mound of dirt in the grave. Also there is no proof they are gonna do good with money from the battlepass. You know this because they have always made money. Goodbye APEX.
Great video guys, lets see how everything pans out shall we!
Everyone saying "This game is trash, I cannot support it"....everyone keeps playing it....😅
Honestly there’s nothing else to play
I am completely onboard with the changes they make to the game in terms of gameplay and mechanics, the core gameplay is still solid, better than any other FPS game out there imho. I am completely indifferent to the battlepass changes, it was gonna happen someday, it's EA. My main problems with the game are terrible servers (I play from third world country, we have no servers), highly inconsistent matchmaking, audio and losers cheating. It's cool when they make changes to keep the game fresh, but prioritizing battlepass over the huge glaring issues that the community has been constantly vocal about for ages is just tacky management on EA's part. We don't need an upgrade, just repair, that would be enough for now.
Battle pass changes def did it for everyone. The game has been getting worse with greed and not addressing issues. The amount of cheaters and Cronus users and zen users is insane. They need a theater mode or something to help catch cheaters. Review booths. I’ll buy a battle pass if I have a game to play. Pubs is to boring and easy and ranked is full of cheaters right when you hit diamond it’s unplayable. I see controller kids beaming across the map and clearly walling and I’ll see them in my lobbies for weeks. It’s not fun.
People really do like too moan about AA whilst their super gliding fast asf around the map😂
Is the majority of players on console or Pc?
1. Is Apex dying? Maybe a little but it's also been out for years. It can't stay on top forever. But it's far from dead.
2. What is causing it to die? - For PC players, cheaters. For console players, SBMM is terrible causing the casuals to leave.
3. Am I buying the battle pass? Yes.
4. What do I think about the Battle Pass?
- The battle pass change itself is a good change. The idea of having to pay money instead of getting it free is the issue people seem to have which I think is sad and I'll explain below.
To address the battle pass changes first, In the battle pass we get double the crafting metals, 3 more apex packs than before, 3 thematic packs we didn't get before, but only 1 reactive skin (per BP), and everything else is basically the same but we get it in 60 levels instead of 110.... Sounds great to me. Then at mid-season you can do it all again basically getting more than double the items we got before. Nobody can tell me that's not a good thing. It gives us more of the good items each half season than we got all season with the old BP and less of the crap.
Now the issue of having to pay using money instead of an in-game currency we get from playing a free-to-play game.... In my opinion the battle pass is worth $10. Honestly it's the best priced thing we can buy in the game. 1 Legendary Item costs $18. If you get both battle passes for $20 you get 4800 crafting metals. That's enough to buy 4 Legendary Items which would typically cost $72 ($18 each), plus a reactive skin that is more than a legendary, not including whatever skins are already in the BP so we get our money's worth. If your argument is that you can't afford the battle pass and somehow that ruins the experience for you, you have other issues. Maybe play games less and work on your personal finances a little more.
This is coming from someone that has 2 kids that also play Apex so I purchase the BP 3x each season.
Now a quick mention of the Premium+ BP.... It has always been dumb to me since it just gives us the same items just faster, but now they're giving bonus stuff which may or not be worth it depending on the person. If I didn't have every Legend unlocked it may be worth it but I've been able to use all the "free" Apex coins to purchase every single legend in the game so it's still not worth it to me just its a cool addition for someone new to the game wants to try out all the Legends before committing to buying one.
I'm not saying Apex is perfect. They have a ton of other issues that need addressing, and soon, but this BP change is not a bad change IMO. The game needs change and most of the changes they've made over the years have been good for the game. Now lets focus of the cheaters and SBMM for starters
This is it. Completely agree with all of this.
Yes, to be honest, I agree with the battle pass changes because, according to my calculations, it is worth more than the old battle pass.
In the old battle pass system, we only needed to buy it once and could use the coins we earned from the previous battle pass for the next one. This meant we saved 400 coins each season. However, if there was a skin I liked, I had to use real money to buy it, which cost around $30.
In the old battle pass, I would get 400 Apex coins (with the remaining 900 used for the next battle pass) and 1,200 crafting materials.
With the new battle pass, I can get 2,600 Apex coins, 2,400 crafting materials, and 20 exotic shards. If I want a skin, I can use the 2,600 Apex coins I get by only paying $20 for the battle pass.
Additionally, it states that for the first split, we can get the battle pass for free by completing challenges. This means if you are patient enough to complete the challenges, you only spend $10 to get all of the things I mentioned above.
lot of yap when theres kids who play this game who earn there coins just like me im one but im not gonna stand for making the battle pass completely pay to buy id like an alternative if i cant literally get it
No, no. You mention they're trimming the fat in the battle pass and then giving us more of the same in the second season battle pass; Why not just condense everything into a single season long battle pass? There's nothing good about Respawn jacking up the prices for literally ANYTHING in this game with the issues plagueing it atm.
But whales are gonna whale. And cope.
@@jigglynorris2559 what you said and have it be buyable with apex coins
I... AM.. SO.. TIRED.. OF.. EVERYONE.. BITCHING.. ABOUT.. AIM ASSIST.. THATS ALL I HEAR WHEN IT COMES TO APEX
It sucks this is happening to Apex. Its happening to my other favorite game Rocket League as well. Sucks man.
My 4k hours down the drain
sorry to say but i think battle pass split thing is good but the buying the battle with money only bad ;(
It is true, Pro play does dictate the game.which is funny cause they all exploit meta and take everything to the extreme. lol best game ever though.
Lmao I also just left a bad review. Not just the battle pass, but the rampant cheaters
Tbh I really don’t care. I never buy anything anyways so it doesn’t affect me.
People need to stop with this dying dying dying shit.
FPS's in general are dying because all of the cheating there is currently.
COD is still around after all those years people have been bashing it and saying "it is dying".
all these day ones saying they not buying the battle pass l m a o.
I love apex I left fortnite the Day apex came out ! I believe it is just trends up and down. I don't think it's Dien but ... if they don't fix the cheating or at least work on it and give us way better content and changes it will die ! I don't mind the battle pass change so long the things we get back even out. It's defiantly not a good move on there part but mabe with the money from the new battle pass they will put that towards anti cheat ? Who knows . They defiantly need to step there game up make it refreshing and make alot of new things or it will for sure start to die. The things i hate is meta changes as well which mostly changes when algs uses a meta man . Even if a legend was the same for years if for whatever reason they start getting used alot because of a new comp or a new strat , they nerf the legend or the gun. For instance the havoc was the same forever but just recently it grew in popularity because it because meta because alot of other guns got changes and it made the havoc get used more. But everyone started using it when they see a pro use it ya know . And they nerfed bloodhound when I don't think that was the move. They could of found another way to combat it . The issue wasn't even blood it was Bangalore lol she stays in the meta man but they buffed her by nerfing blood lol i just don't get it . They just need to really really step up make the game diffrent and fun. Not just new maps and guns and legends they have got to expand on that . Oh yea BTW the xim and controller cheating is out of control BTW strike packs everywhere it's sickening. And matchmaking in pubs is getting very aggravating ! I shouldn't play with my 8 year old daughter and have preds in mistape modes. I died to like 7 press in 3 games in solos and all of them had strike packs as well.
In general, i like many of the past changes - no self-revive (was annoying as hell), the new shield system is great too evening the fields instead of someone landing on purple which can lose you a fight, the replicator changes are healthy too, no more running around collecting this and that to craft for 5 minutes. It makes the game A LOT LESS rng which is like personally. However, i do agree they have to find better ways to balance guns, its so frustrating seeing them nerf everything to the ground instead of maybe buff the bad apples? And in Season 21 in particular they really dropped the ball and it seems to get even worse next season. They've been silent for entire season just to tell everyone "hey pay battle pass twice pls"? Anti cheat is disabled, there are cheaters and ddosers everywhere and thats what they want to tell us? To spend more money? Get a f0cking grip mate. Even hardcore Ranked grinders just gave up because they're being chased by cheaters who know they wont get banned.
games not dead 😂 maybe dying but definitely not dead
Its a free game lol