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Why Archers Are A TERRIBLE First Investment!

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  • Опубліковано 29 лис 2023
  • Archers are incredibly impactful in Rise of Kingdoms in KvK 2, KvK 3, and Season of Conquest. Like in Call of Dragons, Age of Empires, and other Real Time Strategy titles, new upgrades are crucial for late game and high powered play. F2P, Low Spender, and Mid Spender should all have good access to the optimal and best builds.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 69

  • @predictive
    @predictive 8 місяців тому +5

    archers were my second investment and I'm still in pain

  • @sirmann5584
    @sirmann5584 8 місяців тому +1

    My biggest problem with archers is March speed. At least the wheel commanders lack March speed I don’t do mighty governor, so I have been relegated to wheel commanders. They always lag behind all my marches, even infantry at least the wheel commanders for infantry have some speed. So at least in my opinion archers are only good for close in fighting. If you got a March they will fall behind. If you’re running they’ll get melted. If you’re chasing they’ll be the last one to hit I’m going to cavs lol. Good video. Thanks.

  • @PainPills
    @PainPills 8 місяців тому +1

    Hey broski hope ur doing well and keep up the good work

  • @waltercariani4.20
    @waltercariani4.20 8 місяців тому +1

    I am debating right now cause i really like YSG circular AOE, but i think i should have more cav marchers... I could go with 1 inf, 1 arch, and 3 cavs or 1 inf, 2 archers, and 2 cavs. The thing is: i could max Liu Che, and max one of the new Archers to pair with YSG. In that way i would have:
    Boudica 5551, ZL maxed (currently using)
    New Archer maxed, YSG maxed
    Scipio maxed, Liu Che maxed(bench Guan, who is giving me the worsts reports)
    Nev maxed, Joan maxed. (currently using)
    Or i could wait the next cavs and do:
    Boudica 5551, ZL maxed (currently using)
    Guan, Scipio (currently using)
    Nev maxed, Joan maxed. (currently using)
    New Cavs or Huo New cav
    And i think Scipio/YSG is not a good option right now. This march miss a lot fo stats i think, i use it but i felt like my Guan Scipio was doing better than the pure damage of Scipio YSG.
    Overall, for my account, i think i should mobilize my YSG with the new archers(assuming they will be good with them) cause he is too good to be benched, and BENCH THE GUAN OMG HE IS GIVING ME HARD TIMES. But still, cav marchers are too op in the open field. You get where you need to be faster, you have more chances to chase and drop skill on the target and then run away...

  • @WaleAdeniran
    @WaleAdeniran 8 місяців тому

    Makes me happy to see someone as strong as u pairing LC with Alex.
    Not the greatest AoE potential but I do like it.
    I'm playing as f2p and expert my Alex by SoC so was so very happy to find a pairing for him in LC considering the current meta.
    Ps. Have u considered making LC primary to Alex because of his 4th skill? So that when LC procs he procs with the 40% atk boost, rather than a 30% defense boost when he is secondary?

  • @star9221
    @star9221 8 місяців тому +2

    You called me a moron and dumb ass in a olympia match 12! 😂😂

    • @12inchpvpness
      @12inchpvpness  8 місяців тому +1

      Sounds like me :D

    • @star9221
      @star9221 8 місяців тому

      @@12inchpvpness Absolutely not😂

  • @Greggington_Gaming
    @Greggington_Gaming 8 місяців тому +2

    SACRILEGE!!! (But true :D ). I've loved playing archers as F2p....but they're so squishy early game. I feel like I'm playing catch-up with every infantry player!

  • @Kiddish007
    @Kiddish007 8 місяців тому

    honestly I'd argue aethel ysg is a pretty decent investment as aethel is so f2p friendly and ysg is practically a must, however you have to be ready to be able to heal a hefty amount and have a good investment on the equipment for pretty good results. It's what I did and what got me the best results in early kvks as a mid (now high) spender

  • @Raynbowwwww
    @Raynbowwwww 8 місяців тому

    In kvk3 is it only one wheel per troop type before moving on to the next ? So you only get 1 cav wheel 1 inf wheel and 1 archer wheel during kvk3

  • @perfectgaming2275
    @perfectgaming2275 8 місяців тому

    Disagree bro my budika zhuge is tanky as well as getting more KP in muder ball as compare to other marches

  • @nikfabrik8518
    @nikfabrik8518 8 місяців тому

    My friend did 2B KP in first 3 kvk with his archer team. Great player. Low spender

  • @realjohnlove
    @realjohnlove 8 місяців тому +7

    Lilith needs to fix this. Because the game is oversaturated with Cavs

    • @charleshoveland5672
      @charleshoveland5672 8 місяців тому

      Haha, cav and Inf our the same power level

    • @realjohnlove
      @realjohnlove 8 місяців тому

      @@charleshoveland5672 lol sure. Thats why the field is oversaturated with Cavs

    • @gippysingh9104
      @gippysingh9104 8 місяців тому +1

      @@realjohnlovewhy is that a problem..cavs are made for field fighting..they are tanky and fast

    • @charleshoveland5672
      @charleshoveland5672 8 місяців тому +1

      @@realjohnlove I just fought against Chisgule in 3v1 KVK. Everyone ran two Inf 3 cav one leadership and one archer. I ran three Inf because I am Inf main. But it’s pretty equal. Not over saturated

    • @charleshoveland5672
      @charleshoveland5672 8 місяців тому

      @@gippysingh9104 yeah that’s true. Except cav our not tanky

  • @martindupont2249
    @martindupont2249 8 місяців тому

    I started with archers focus thinking i will kill a lot of infantry but you don't get any good archer commanders until Ramses and Artemisia and they both disappaer of your lineup fast so they are bad investments. Play archers if you are a whale with unlimited $$

  • @KoleePlaysGames
    @KoleePlaysGames 8 місяців тому

    Pov: watching this video less than a month after putting all of your sculptures into Boudicca/zl 😭

  • @adrianvega3229
    @adrianvega3229 8 місяців тому +6

    I disagree I have 1 meta pair of each troop type and boduica zl by far gets me the most kills.

    • @12inchpvpness
      @12inchpvpness  8 місяців тому +4

      Super interesting, this is almost a unique experience ngl I have heard barely anyone share that

    • @davidw.5185
      @davidw.5185 8 місяців тому

      End game is the key

    • @adrianvega3229
      @adrianvega3229 8 місяців тому

      @@12inchpvpness lol want to see screenshots ? ZL has circular aoe I assume that’s why he gets the most kills. All 3 armies have full gold sets as well expect my Nevsky has 2 crits.

    • @misterxfinity5759
      @misterxfinity5759 8 місяців тому +2

      Ok, but archers are still a bad FIRST investment.

    • @LucasLopes-mp5vx
      @LucasLopes-mp5vx 8 місяців тому

      They are squishy tho

  • @ryzenbu250
    @ryzenbu250 8 місяців тому +2

    should my first t5 be inf or cav?

  • @puddlecakes
    @puddlecakes 8 місяців тому

    Archers were my first and only investment.

  • @babayaga335
    @babayaga335 8 місяців тому

    Running archers like its an drug addiction, currently prepping 3rd march

  • @samylo.6688
    @samylo.6688 8 місяців тому +1

    Good contente like always ❤

  • @ivy-jb7sl
    @ivy-jb7sl 8 місяців тому

    currently watching this in iss love the vids🤣

    • @12inchpvpness
      @12inchpvpness  8 місяців тому

      I got kicked out and went to something called the Juvenile Justice Academy when I was a kid, it’s like jail school where they send you after AHS haha, don’t fuck up too much!

  • @kilde_lol6646
    @kilde_lol6646 8 місяців тому +1

    Can’t wait for 12 to release this and a few hours later Hermann skills leaks and archers will be the most broken type 🤣

    • @RokPablo
      @RokPablo 8 місяців тому

      Hermanns skills have already been leaked

    • @RandyRodgirth
      @RandyRodgirth 8 місяців тому

      The vid would still be relevant, because it says “terrible first investment” not late game.

    • @RandyRodgirth
      @RandyRodgirth 8 місяців тому

      @@RokPablohave you got a link to the skills leak? Haven’t seen it yet

    • @Sindonum
      @Sindonum 8 місяців тому

      @@RokPablo if you mean the leaks that say kingdom 3069 on it, even their r5 said they have no clue why their kd is on there. its 99% fake. and if you mean the 3K circle aoe, its obv fake

  • @atanvarno732
    @atanvarno732 8 місяців тому

    Based video, someone gotta put the archer simps in their place

  • @crbaynes253
    @crbaynes253 8 місяців тому

    Edward is a terrible investment now but for those who have him Ed/Tomy is deleting everything in kvk 2

  • @realjohnlove
    @realjohnlove 8 місяців тому

    I feel attacked

  • @MyVince60
    @MyVince60 8 місяців тому

    i run 4 archer marches #archergang no regret about anything

  • @sirmeechie5098
    @sirmeechie5098 8 місяців тому +1

    Clearly sound like a archer hater. Mines super slap. Zlhuge is top commander in rok. Also giving incorrect March pair. Nev joan is the way. . Qb will as 2nd pair. Also infantry is slowest. Ysg is outdated. Boudica zhuge nebu zhuge nebu

    • @wildlifehaven8029
      @wildlifehaven8029 8 місяців тому

      This is for f2p players, not late game meta. Nobody is investing in William after transitioning to SOC

    • @sirmeechie5098
      @sirmeechie5098 8 місяців тому

      Mina isn't f2p. Which you also suggest in your pairs. Zhuge 5511 is better then max ysg. Can run 5511 boudica 5511 zhuge. Or 5511 zhuge 5511 nebu . Will is also 5511 or 5551 at best. Top 2 comms for starting in soc are zhuge and Scipio. I would even say Liu che as 3rd depending if running 2inf before nev. Aoe is best . Otherwise you start zhuge Scipio nev. Top 3 comms.

  • @madneo3309
    @madneo3309 8 місяців тому

    I am f2p and used ysg as a secondary to artemisia for a long time and then changed to ZL/artemisia now, have always had good results

  • @SubzeroEosSapah
    @SubzeroEosSapah 8 місяців тому

    You probably got bullied by archers no way people has so much hate towards archers for no reason.
    My archer journey so far:
    kvk 1 : Kusunoki + ysg -> 100M Kp gained
    kvk 2 - Thutmose 5511 + ysg -> 250M Kp gained
    kvk 3: yes i agree this one sucks because wheel came at end of kvk xD
    Kvk4: Boudica + ZL -> 300M kp gained
    currently waiting for next kvk and hermann prime.
    If you don't know how to play archers stick in ya lane. #ArcherSyndicate gang

    • @_Sosa_J
      @_Sosa_J 3 місяці тому

      How many Marche groups did you have for KVK 1? Did you just have Kusunoki and ysg I’m having trouble with figuring out other march groups

  • @Oscar-yq1vs
    @Oscar-yq1vs 8 місяців тому

    Anything

  • @leeeo576
    @leeeo576 8 місяців тому

    Just go for Cav 😂 use Mina until you get Nevsky,Joan,Huo,Willi

  • @profiter1777
    @profiter1777 8 місяців тому

    Mina/ysg is good aaf

  • @Oxyjohn44
    @Oxyjohn44 8 місяців тому

    Scipio/Ysg>Scipio/Liu🙌😅

  • @sartip2495
    @sartip2495 8 місяців тому

    Archer 💪

  • @error.exe.exe.
    @error.exe.exe. 8 місяців тому

    Archers are doo doo if u aren’t 12inch

  • @arzos2603
    @arzos2603 8 місяців тому

    hi

  • @ttvwinnorg
    @ttvwinnorg 8 місяців тому

  • @rexo6957
    @rexo6957 8 місяців тому

    my goat

  • @rxlics4394
    @rxlics4394 8 місяців тому

    Pro !