We have the same car bought in 2022. We were also looking at the Bolt which was pulled because of fire issues. After searching the net, I found only one documented leaf fire in 2015. We love the birds-eye view camera. The car which is basic old school tech and has physical buttons are refreshing and easy to master for a Luddite driving an EV. In summary, as a second around town car this car is perfect. In addition I love the metal roof, and hate all glass roofs. Our road car is a Subaru. You’re review is spot on.
We have a 2019 Leaf Plus (62 kWh battery) and love it. We find it works for all our driving, including plenty of road trips. Here's our story: ua-cam.com/video/k_uW7FCbPxw/v-deo.html More on our channel: ua-cam.com/video/k_uW7FCbPxw/v-deo.html
Excellent review. Just straight forward information, no bashing. I would buy one and travel. I've driven my 2014 Leaf up and down the l-5 corridor. Since the new Leafs go farther on a charge I would travel again since I am not addicted to convenience. Actually I would replace the battery in my present Leaf and have an almost new car for less than the price of a new one. For those who live in the Portland Oregon area EV Rides LLC is the place to go for a Leaf battery replacement.
Own a 2023 Leaf Plus and found your review right on. This is my third Leaf. Why? Because of their high quality and reasonable price. But as you stated not good for long distant drving. I also like your shirt.
What does it mean at minute 7:44 when you say 'one downside to immediate off the line scoot'? What is torque steer?, is it like a kick in gas-powered car?
Hi! An engineer could explain this better than me, but torque steer is basically where driveline forces try to make the car change direction. In front-wheel-drive vehicles, or sometimes in cars with front-biased all-wheel-drive systems, you'll feel the steering wheel tugging against your grip while accelerating, typically over broken pavement or while in corners; it's kind of like the car is trying to steer itself. Engineers can reduce this or even eliminate it by making the drive axles the same length, implementing suspension designs like Ford's RevoKnuckle or GM's HyperStrut, selecting the proper tire for a suspension design or more. Thanks for watching and commenting! - Craig
I have leased Leafs since 2018, and I really like the cars. The Leaf's biggest shortcoming is the CHAdeMO fastcharge standard, which has become obsolete in the US. Nissan uses CSS for the Ariya and all future US cars, and fastcharge suppliers (such as ElectrifyAmerica) have dropped CHAdeMO support from new installations. Although my 2022 SV+ can charge at 100 kW, I have never encountered a CHAdeMO charger greater than 50. It is increasingly hard to find CHAdeMO. Where available, there is usually a single plug (but there may be several CCS plugs). When America builds out the nationwide fastcharge network, it will be all CCS, since every manufacturer (except Tesla) will use that standard. At least 95% of America's EV fleet will use CCS. Leafs will be relegated to local commuter cars without the ability to fastcharge on the road. When my current Leaf lease ends, I will switch to a CCS-charged Chevy Volt. Alas.
We have a 2019 Leaf Plus (62 kWh battery) and love it. We find it works for all our driving, including plenty of road trips. Here in Ontario, Canada there still are CHAdeMO chargers - even new ones being built. Here's our story: ua-cam.com/video/k_uW7FCbPxw/v-deo.html More on our channel: ua-cam.com/video/k_uW7FCbPxw/v-deo.html
I agree, but only to an extent. Finding Chademo isn't massive problem yet, but it's definitely something to think about for the future if you do a lot of long journeys. AC charging is no problem though and many, many Leaf drivers use this only and drive short distances. A used 1st gen Leaf can be a HUGE bargain
Replying to my own comment, which was written a year ago, before NACS (the Tesla charging standard) won the standards war. Now everything will be NACS, and now CCS will join CHAdeMO in the dustbin of obsolete charging standards. NACS is a much better charging standard, and it's good that Tesla has made it open-source so that everyone can use it without being beholden to Tesla in any way. If Sony had dropped their licensing fees, BetaMax would have won the video standards war, since it was a superior format. That would have made much more money for Sony in the long run.
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video and my sister lives in Vancouver and she bought the 2022 kia ev6 after waiting 6 weeks because of the chip shortage I helped he'd because of my neighbor works for kia canada headoffice and her color of choice white thanks for the video
Hope your sister is enjoying her EV6! Six weeks is not a long time at all, these days! The EV6 is a fantastic car already -- we can't wait to take a spin in the GT version. Thanks for watching!
This man is a damn delight for the senses. Please do more reviews. Oh and this cars for grandmas who won’t be traveling out side their cities much if ever.
We just had our 2017 leaf bought back by Nissan due to battery problems ( under warranty). We looked around and contemplated replacing it with a Corolla or Sentra BUT we’re not really interested in going back to gas and mechanical parts. Our local Nissan dealer had a fantastic offer (12k off) and we had a discount code from Nissan that took the price down even more. In the end we negotiated a brand new ( with less than 50 miles on the car!) 23 SV + for a lease that costs the same as our previous car payment ( for the 2017). Feels like a significant upgrade to me!
Pam here….the simplicity of this car is suited for tech limited seniors and they tend to drive a lot less anyway. I have been noticing a lot of retirees with them.
I haven't driven the Leaf in winter weather, but it should perform as well -- or better -- than any other front-wheel-drive vehicle out there. If you live in an area that gets cold, snowy weather, I always, Always, ALWAYS recommend getting a set of winter tires. They perform SO MUCH BETTER in these conditions than all-season tires. The difference is night and day. Thanks for watching and commenting! - Craig
i still own my first gen leaf imported from japan. battery down to 70% and still good for daily commute. for 11yrs it ran perfect and still is. it was the best BEV at that time. my next car will be a Tesla CyberTruk.
Today my Nissan Leaf has to go to Nissan heaven 2013 MK1 Purchased from Nissan Dealership, full service history and all repairs completed at Nissan and today at only 48k, yes 48k! miles the error code of inverter and motor was found with an estimated repair bill of £9800 pounds. Nissans response was car is over 8 years old so we cant help.
@@EVPulse I only owned it for 24k miles, it had the charger replaced and then the regulator and the motor went - Let's see if Nissan repair this faulty car, or sold me a car only good for 48k miles :)
That's awful! Sorry to hear your Leaf conked out with so few miles on the clock. If that happened to me, I WOULD NOT be pleased, nor would I buy another Nissan. Thanks for watching and commenting! - Craig
@@tmtcschannel thats pretty bad luck. other then the battery issues I think leaf's are pretty solid. I'd try to find a recked parts car for a few thousand and get a shade tree mechanic to swap things out. prior to the shortages, you could get a 2013 leaf for like 4500 bucks in my region. granted the battery would have not been the greatest but it would have served as a around towner, or parts car.
Currently Japan and China are the only countries that still support the CHAdeMO standard. Supposedly no one is building new CHAdeMO plugs or repairing the ones that fail. Beware if your life style revolves around long road trips!
@@smoothoperator1663 There is no adapter for level 3 charging! Using level 2 charging (11 hours by Nissan's estimate) is a ridiculous option for a long cross country trip!
Actually, it’s more likely a combination of 2 factors: existing inventory (of the ChaDeMo compatible BMS systems), and matching the BMS to the battery layout. In the former case, it only makes sense that Nissan would want to deploy as much of their ChaDeMo-BMS inventory as they can to make a profit from what they already have. In the latter case, ai think it came down to the fact that the Series-Parallel configuration of the LEAFs battery modules was somehow incompatible with the CCS polling system. Don’t quote me on that last one, though; it’s been a while since I researched that, and I can’t remember if it was from the actual specifications of CCS or a dissection of multiple CCS-equipped EV batteries. I’ll have to look into it again when I get my laptop back up and running.
I think if the leaf had CCS charger, liquid cooled battery and a preheat battery i believe the Leaf would be a great EV. Well at-least the SVplus would be the S needs more range
the leaf has passive battery cooling. so the batteries age fairly quickly in comparision to the bolt. Probably hard to find at this point, but a used bolt that doesn't ahve the replacement battery would be a steel because you will get your own 100k battery warrenty. (batteries seem to last 300k on bolts unless you do tuns of DC fast charging. my bolt has 142k miles on original battery and i still get well over 200 miles per charge (original battery was smaller then the 259mile battery) so my degredation is about 5 percent in 142k which isn't bad at all. i suspect I'll have this car for 350,000 miles. if you look you can find a bolt premiere for well under 20k. I've purcahsed one for 17,5 and 1 for 18,9 this year. both with battery warrenties of 80 or over 100k
One other detail that would have put the leaf more competitive with those other EVs is the charging rate. It's actually got faster DC fast charging than the Bolt, Kona and Mini.
Is it really faster than the Kona in practice? I don't think I've ever seen a CHAdeMO charging station over 50kW, CCS stations that can max out the Kona 80kW rate are pretty common though.
The problem is trying to find a Chademo station that can supply more than 50kW. They've very rare in the US. Although the Bolt and Mini also don't charge over 50kW. The Kona is the only one that can do over 50kW, I believe it maxes out at 70kW. Even if you charge at one of the rare 50kW+ Chademo stations, the fact that the Leaf's battery is air cooled means it overheats very quickly. So it rarely maintains that peak 100kW rate for very long.
Great take. I do still like it despite it practically being a dinosaur in todays marketplace. But going by your EV top tips video, yeah if it came to actually spending my own money, sorry Nissan just doesn’t make sense to give it to you (unless it’s for one of your Ariyas).
GM absolutely slashed the price of the Bolt for the 23 Model year, and is even giving buyers of new 21 and 22MY vehicles a check for the difference iirc.
Nice review. I get bored when people talk about design innovation because most men wouldn't recognize innovation if it bumped into them. The Leaf 1 was innovative, Nissan were criticised, the Leaf 2 is boring as a consequence. Men seem to like cars that either look like a Lambo or a tank. Personally, for me the car needs to be functional, efficient, safe, and comfortable. It's not a work of art. It's a machine that will be disposed of after about 5-10 years unless it's a classic. Most people own new cars these days for the length of the lease. I'm not going to obsess about the quality of the plastic or the lovely stitching if I can't de-mist the screen before it fogs up. Maybe that's just me..
@@davidward113 ha, you don't experience the same weather as me I reckon. You can't defrost horizontal rain and snow.. or mud that's being sprayed from tractors. But I'm also perhaps not as good a driver as you either 😎
I have a Leaf and honestly the seats aren't that great. They're fine as long as you're not driving longer than like.. half hour. After that you're going to start getting back pain unless you're short and thin. They're not very wide and the edges curve a lot to keep you in place so someone like me who isn't even that tall (5'7'') gets their shoulders all hunched over. Other than that it's a pretty good and (relatively) cheap car that's is very newbie friendly for first time EV owners who can use this to cut off gas prices on their daily commute.
The Leaf has the best EV batteries in North America with a thousand new chademo charger locations added every 3 or 4 months it is a great time to buy and drive a Leaf.
What qualifies the Leaf batteries as “the best”? The best at overheating? The best at slow charging - good luck finding a public DCFC faster than 50 kW for the Leaf? The best at degrading (2011 and 2012 Leafs are especially great examples of best degrading batteries)?
The CHAdeMO connector is slow (most stations in the U.S. only support 50 kW), there is a car that charges even slower. -> ua-cam.com/video/QzCpbQT-cq4/v-deo.html
"Significant shortcomings"! It would be helpful if you would educate consumers about the disadvantages of an EV that does not have active thermal management in the traction battery.
I want an EV - but I want one that doesn't bottom-out on range. The Leaf would not be a valid choice, even though 90% of my driving is in-town. I might consider buying one if it was $15,000 but not more than that.
The bolt is a great little car, with tax incentives next year on used ones likely to be 4k. or if you sign up for regional alerts at certain price points you can get a used bolt for 18k most likely. the bolt will have atleast 80k warrenty on the battery. I suggest a early model, 2017 or 2018 premiere level, it has a ton of tech in it. and is a great buy. I've gotten 1 for 17,5 and one for 18,9 this year. a couple of years ago when prices werent so crazy you could just about get a new one for 19k. used for 14k. the battery cooling on the bolt means youll likely get 300k miles out of your battery. I've got 142K+ on both of my bolts and still doing really well.
@@mattbuie5878 I am considering a Bolt, or a Chevy Equionox. But this time I will want to lease a new one instead of buying. With this, I can get the best trim and hopefully with the warranty and savings the leasing fees will be acceptable. Also, can change cars with increased frequency. What you told me, however, is highly appreciated and worth considering.
You won’t be able to max it at 100 kW, or really even find a 100 kW CHAdeMO charger. The car won’t charge at a peak rate through the entire charge cycle, and from our experience the Leaf just charges slowly. The charging speed and time we quote in this video is what the manufacturer claims the time will take.
This was a good review! There's just one thing I would have liked to be included: time to full charge on an L1 charger, which is what the car comes with, or an L2 charger, which is what you find at most public charging stations in California. I've never seen a "chademo" charging station anywhere in the city I live in, so I'm much more interested in how long it takes to charge a Leaf SV+ with it's on-board L2 charger. What is the maximum charge rate? Some public L2 chargers can go as high as 9,600 watts (40 amps at 240 volts), most of them can supply 30 amps (7,200 watts), and a few older ones are limited to 20 amps (4,800 watts). Okay, I just looked this up: The "Plus" model Leaf with it's 62kWh battery takes 11.5 hours to charge on an L2 charger, while the 40kWh battery takes 8 hours. These numbers imply that the Leaf's onboard charger has a 5,600 watt maximum capacity at 240 volts, which is 23 amps. If you are using the L1 charger that comes with the car, these are all limited to about 1,440 watts (12 amps) no matter what brand of EV car you plug them into: the limit is the power capacity of the 120 volt wiring and circuit breakers in your house. So the 62 kw-hour battery in the Leaf Plus would take 62/1.44 = 43 hours to fully charge from 14% SOC to 84% SOC (the typical minimum/maximum SOC of any EV with a lithium ion battery). The battery in the Chevy Bolt is 65 kilowatt hours, so charging times for the Bolt are probably similar to the Leaf Plus for L1 and L2 charging.
From an Industrial Designer, I find the design to be superficially fussy; and it looks less interesting than the previous Leaf designs. It just looks like a regular car with fussy details and a bad looking head light design.
take a look at the bolt. its a great little car, and used ones will still have 80,90 or 100k left on the battery warranty. if you look hard you can still find a older 2017 Premeior level model for 18 or 19k in the US. i wouldnt dream of buying a non premiere chevy bolt. they are great little cars. great range!
the new ones can charge to 80 percent in 15 mins. In china there are cars that will do it in like 6 mins or something insane like that. 15 mins to me is fast enough, by the time you go to the bathroom or get a snack to bring to to eat in the car its done. People make such a big deal about charging, but in reality charging speeds ONLY matter for long distance trips. and even then, if you can start your day with a full charge, charge at lunch and charge at 1 other stop for then charging speed isn't that big of a deal. For me, at home or work. my charge takes 7 secounds. 3.5 secound to plug in. 3.5 secs to unplug. I dont think about having enough charge for my 100 mile daily driving because I know I will just have enough. as i had to fill up 2 to 3 times per week in my old honda, I'm saving close to 1 horu a week vs my ice vehicle of going to costco gas. I'm happy to have slightly slower road trips to save tons of time in regular daily life. Also save a lot of time from not having to do oil changes or other maints.
Nissan missed the chance again with the most experience of electric cars. The dash is drab, the screen is pre historic. CHAdeMO should be changed to to DC or CCS as std.
Nissan has a new EV out that's bigger, charges quicker, and is way nicer inside ua-cam.com/video/dkIMOwml-OM/v-deo.html
We have the same car bought in 2022. We were also looking at the Bolt which was pulled because of fire issues. After searching the net, I found only one documented leaf fire in 2015. We love the birds-eye view camera. The car which is basic old school tech and has physical buttons are refreshing and easy to master for a Luddite driving an EV. In summary, as a second around town car this car is perfect. In addition I love the metal roof, and hate all glass roofs. Our road car is a Subaru. You’re review is spot on.
We have a 2019 Leaf Plus (62 kWh battery) and love it. We find it works for all our driving, including plenty of road trips. Here's our story: ua-cam.com/video/k_uW7FCbPxw/v-deo.html More on our channel: ua-cam.com/video/k_uW7FCbPxw/v-deo.html
Several Leafs burned in western wildfires and one burned burned to a laptop or cell phone in Texas. So far no Leaf battery has burned or caught fire.
Just finished my fourth charge 2023 SV Plus. High estimation was 268 miles and low estimated miles was 238 miles. Really this vehicle!
Excellent review. Just straight forward information, no bashing.
I would buy one and travel. I've driven my 2014 Leaf up and down the l-5 corridor. Since the new Leafs go farther on a charge I would travel again since I am not addicted to convenience.
Actually I would replace the battery in my present Leaf and have an almost new car for less than the price of a new one.
For those who live in the Portland Oregon area EV Rides LLC is the place to go for a Leaf battery replacement.
Wife and myself love our 2022 SV Plus. We use it for all kinds of 100 miles round-trips (beach trips, etc).
Really like your info graphic comparing the range and prices. I’m gonna subscribe. Keep up the good work, and the infographics. 😊
Own a 2023 Leaf Plus and found your review right on. This is my third Leaf. Why? Because of their high quality and reasonable price. But as you stated not good for long distant drving. I also like your shirt.
@@Plisken65 No degradation but only 3900 miles so far.
Love the visible comparative chart atb 5:43 to 7:07. Great overall review sincerely
What does it mean at minute 7:44 when you say 'one downside to immediate off the line scoot'?
What is torque steer?, is it like a kick in gas-powered car?
Hi! An engineer could explain this better than me, but torque steer is basically where driveline forces try to make the car change direction. In front-wheel-drive vehicles, or sometimes in cars with front-biased all-wheel-drive systems, you'll feel the steering wheel tugging against your grip while accelerating, typically over broken pavement or while in corners; it's kind of like the car is trying to steer itself. Engineers can reduce this or even eliminate it by making the drive axles the same length, implementing suspension designs like Ford's RevoKnuckle or GM's HyperStrut, selecting the proper tire for a suspension design or more.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
- Craig
I have leased Leafs since 2018, and I really like the cars. The Leaf's biggest shortcoming is the CHAdeMO fastcharge standard, which has become obsolete in the US. Nissan uses CSS for the Ariya and all future US cars, and fastcharge suppliers (such as ElectrifyAmerica) have dropped CHAdeMO support from new installations. Although my 2022 SV+ can charge at 100 kW, I have never encountered a CHAdeMO charger greater than 50.
It is increasingly hard to find CHAdeMO. Where available, there is usually a single plug (but there may be several CCS plugs). When America builds out the nationwide fastcharge network, it will be all CCS, since every manufacturer (except Tesla) will use that standard. At least 95% of America's EV fleet will use CCS. Leafs will be relegated to local commuter cars without the ability to fastcharge on the road.
When my current Leaf lease ends, I will switch to a CCS-charged Chevy Volt. Alas.
We have a 2019 Leaf Plus (62 kWh battery) and love it. We find it works for all our driving, including plenty of road trips. Here in Ontario, Canada there still are CHAdeMO chargers - even new ones being built. Here's our story: ua-cam.com/video/k_uW7FCbPxw/v-deo.html More on our channel: ua-cam.com/video/k_uW7FCbPxw/v-deo.html
Over a thousand chademo chargers are added every 3 or 4 months.
Like a gas pump I wish chargers had multi connectors per station. Chademo, CCS, NACS
I agree, but only to an extent. Finding Chademo isn't massive problem yet, but it's definitely something to think about for the future if you do a lot of long journeys. AC charging is no problem though and many, many Leaf drivers use this only and drive short distances. A used 1st gen Leaf can be a HUGE bargain
Replying to my own comment, which was written a year ago, before NACS (the Tesla charging standard) won the standards war. Now everything will be NACS, and now CCS will join CHAdeMO in the dustbin of obsolete charging standards. NACS is a much better charging standard, and it's good that Tesla has made it open-source so that everyone can use it without being beholden to Tesla in any way. If Sony had dropped their licensing fees, BetaMax would have won the video standards war, since it was a superior format. That would have made much more money for Sony in the long run.
I love my 2023 Leaf SV 😊Plus, just the right car for me.
The charger isn’t a problem in Sweden ❤ or most of Europe.
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video and my sister lives in Vancouver and she bought the 2022 kia ev6 after waiting 6 weeks because of the chip shortage I helped he'd because of my neighbor works for kia canada headoffice and her color of choice white thanks for the video
Hope your sister is enjoying her EV6! Six weeks is not a long time at all, these days! The EV6 is a fantastic car already -- we can't wait to take a spin in the GT version. Thanks for watching!
This man is a damn delight for the senses. Please do more reviews. Oh and this cars for grandmas who won’t be traveling out side their cities much if ever.
We just had our 2017 leaf bought back by Nissan due to battery problems ( under warranty). We looked around and contemplated replacing it with a Corolla or Sentra BUT we’re not really interested in going back to gas and mechanical parts. Our local Nissan dealer had a fantastic offer (12k off) and we had a discount code from Nissan that took the price down even more. In the end we negotiated a brand new ( with less than 50 miles on the car!) 23 SV + for a lease that costs the same as our previous car payment ( for the 2017).
Feels like a significant upgrade to me!
Just bought me one in April.. love it
Pam here….the simplicity of this car is suited for tech limited seniors and they tend to drive a lot less anyway. I have been noticing a lot of retirees with them.
Thanks for watching and commenting! The Leaf is a great EV for folks that don't need the latest and greatest features or super long range.
- Craig
Def my kid car. Lot of the moms I know are driving leaf’s.
Nissan dealers are still demanding $5000 "market adjustment" on top of the MSRP for Leaf. Nuts.
I bought a 2022 SV+ this past spring for MSRP. Deals are out there if you know where to look
@@datruesurfer how is that a deal if you pay sticker price? 😢 it’s not like the old days
Never seen that.
How does this drive in snow?
I haven't driven the Leaf in winter weather, but it should perform as well -- or better -- than any other front-wheel-drive vehicle out there. If you live in an area that gets cold, snowy weather, I always, Always, ALWAYS recommend getting a set of winter tires. They perform SO MUCH BETTER in these conditions than all-season tires. The difference is night and day.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
- Craig
I'll stick with my 2011 Nissan Leaf (still on original battery).
How much does it cost I must have missed the price.
The Leaf is a wonderful all around EV. Great for around town use. Highly recommended. 😊
Is it possible to charge from a DC charger that is not CHAdeMO, for example a Tesla one?
No unfortunately
@@EVPulse Not even with an adapter, if there is one?
@@eBroncos No. Tesla will let you charge a CCS car at some locations but if you want CHAdeMO you're out of luck.
Everyone loves to shit on the Leaf.
i still own my first gen leaf imported from japan. battery down to 70% and still good for daily commute. for 11yrs it ran perfect and still is. it was the best BEV at that time. my next car will be a Tesla CyberTruk.
No it wont.
Forgot to mention rapidgate on road trips (slow charging becomes super super slow charging).
Like other EVs.
@@davidradzieta6458 no, not like other EVs.
@@davidradzieta6458 which EVs on sale today, other than Leaf, have rapidgate?
Are there any CHAdeMO chargers currently in the U.S. that can charge 100kW?
Not to our knowledge.
@@EVPulse Why the big players, such as 7-Eleven and Electrify America don't do it as they are already installing new charging stations anyway.
I find the power of the leaf amazing 0 to 60 in 7 seconds seems fantastic
Today my Nissan Leaf has to go to Nissan heaven 2013 MK1 Purchased from Nissan Dealership, full service history and all repairs completed at Nissan and today at only 48k, yes 48k! miles the error code of inverter and motor was found with an estimated repair bill of £9800 pounds. Nissans response was car is over 8 years old so we cant help.
Sorry for your loss! Sounds like the MK1 served you well. Curious, will you be replacing it with another EV? If so, which one?
@@EVPulse I only owned it for 24k miles, it had the charger replaced and then the regulator and the motor went - Let's see if Nissan repair this faulty car, or sold me a car only good for 48k miles :)
That's awful! Sorry to hear your Leaf conked out with so few miles on the clock. If that happened to me, I WOULD NOT be pleased, nor would I buy another Nissan.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
- Craig
@@tmtcschannel thats pretty bad luck. other then the battery issues I think leaf's are pretty solid. I'd try to find a recked parts car for a few thousand and get a shade tree mechanic to swap things out. prior to the shortages, you could get a 2013 leaf for like 4500 bucks in my region. granted the battery would have not been the greatest but it would have served as a around towner, or parts car.
Buy second hand parts.
Currently Japan and China are the only countries that still support the CHAdeMO standard. Supposedly no one is building new CHAdeMO plugs or repairing the ones that fail. Beware if your life style revolves around long road trips!
North America has the Leaf and the Outlander PHEV as the only two vehicles still supporting CHAdeMO. It's a main reason to look elsewhere.
Just use the adapter as I do !
@@smoothoperator1663 There is no adapter for level 3 charging! Using level 2 charging (11 hours by Nissan's estimate) is a ridiculous option for a long cross country trip!
@@EVPulse You should have strongly noted that road trips are virtually impossible with this car.
Idk who EV pulse is or how tyey snagged him, but his writing talent is still impeccable.
We pay him in parts for his ‘36 Ford.
Why Nissan just doesn't go CCS for DC fast charging is beyond me.
Money. They don’t want to spend the money to change it until a platform change.
Actually, it’s more likely a combination of 2 factors: existing inventory (of the ChaDeMo compatible BMS systems), and matching the BMS to the battery layout. In the former case, it only makes sense that Nissan would want to deploy as much of their ChaDeMo-BMS inventory as they can to make a profit from what they already have. In the latter case, ai think it came down to the fact that the Series-Parallel configuration of the LEAFs battery modules was somehow incompatible with the CCS polling system. Don’t quote me on that last one, though; it’s been a while since I researched that, and I can’t remember if it was from the actual specifications of CCS or a dissection of multiple CCS-equipped EV batteries. I’ll have to look into it again when I get my laptop back up and running.
Because they put other interests ahead of their customers.
Would you recommend buying Nissan leaf to someone who doesn't have a garage to charge or install level 2 charger?
Having to charge offsite will be tedious. We’ve known people who do it but we have a hard time recommending it.
@@EVPulse thank you for your honest & quick reply
I would not recommend any EV for someone without home charging. Try a Plug in Hybrid.
Is both j1772 and Chademo go in the way of the dodo
Yes
I think if the leaf had CCS charger, liquid cooled battery and a preheat battery i believe the Leaf would be a great EV. Well at-least the SVplus would be the S needs more range
what a pretty drive! I'm drooling over a Kona, too bad i cant get one in my state?!
Once in a very great while it's pretty around here :) Thanks for watching!
I can't believe that they kept that chadmo charge receptacle talk about planned obsolescence
I enjoyed this... Thanks! After watching I'd buy the Bolt!
the leaf has passive battery cooling. so the batteries age fairly quickly in comparision to the bolt. Probably hard to find at this point, but a used bolt that doesn't ahve the replacement battery would be a steel because you will get your own 100k battery warrenty. (batteries seem to last 300k on bolts unless you do tuns of DC fast charging. my bolt has 142k miles on original battery and i still get well over 200 miles per charge (original battery was smaller then the 259mile battery) so my degredation is about 5 percent in 142k which isn't bad at all. i suspect I'll have this car for 350,000 miles. if you look you can find a bolt premiere for well under 20k. I've purcahsed one for 17,5 and 1 for 18,9 this year. both with battery warrenties of 80 or over 100k
Nice shirt !
One other detail that would have put the leaf more competitive with those other EVs is the charging rate. It's actually got faster DC fast charging than the Bolt, Kona and Mini.
Is it really faster than the Kona in practice? I don't think I've ever seen a CHAdeMO charging station over 50kW, CCS stations that can max out the Kona 80kW rate are pretty common though.
The problem is trying to find a Chademo station that can supply more than 50kW. They've very rare in the US. Although the Bolt and Mini also don't charge over 50kW. The Kona is the only one that can do over 50kW, I believe it maxes out at 70kW.
Even if you charge at one of the rare 50kW+ Chademo stations, the fact that the Leaf's battery is air cooled means it overheats very quickly. So it rarely maintains that peak 100kW rate for very long.
Hey, why not tell us the 0-60 time? This car is very quick!
6.7 secs 0-60
Great take. I do still like it despite it practically being a dinosaur in todays marketplace. But going by your EV top tips video, yeah if it came to actually spending my own money, sorry Nissan just doesn’t make sense to give it to you (unless it’s for one of your Ariyas).
Please double check the Bolt EV pricing at the 6:35 mark. The Bolt starts at $32,495 before destination charges and $7500 rebate.
This MSRP for the bolt is the 2023 year so it is correct
GM absolutely slashed the price of the Bolt for the 23 Model year, and is even giving buyers of new 21 and 22MY vehicles a check for the difference iirc.
No $7500 tax credit on bolt for 2022. Rebates are usually by state.
Wish they had a station wagon version.
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@@EVPulse *clicks ruby slippers together for the rest of the band*
I don't like the look of the rims. I love my 2015 SL Leaf. Leather and Bose is a nice touch.
Nice review. I get bored when people talk about design innovation because most men wouldn't recognize innovation if it bumped into them. The Leaf 1 was innovative, Nissan were criticised, the Leaf 2 is boring as a consequence. Men seem to like cars that either look like a Lambo or a tank. Personally, for me the car needs to be functional, efficient, safe, and comfortable. It's not a work of art. It's a machine that will be disposed of after about 5-10 years unless it's a classic. Most people own new cars these days for the length of the lease. I'm not going to obsess about the quality of the plastic or the lovely stitching if I can't de-mist the screen before it fogs up. Maybe that's just me..
yes -its just you. learn to use the ventilation system. If it really fogs, hit the demist button. Simple.
@@davidward113 ha, you don't experience the same weather as me I reckon. You can't defrost horizontal rain and snow.. or mud that's being sprayed from tractors. But I'm also perhaps not as good a driver as you either 😎
I have a Leaf and honestly the seats aren't that great. They're fine as long as you're not driving longer than like.. half hour. After that you're going to start getting back pain unless you're short and thin. They're not very wide and the edges curve a lot to keep you in place so someone like me who isn't even that tall (5'7'') gets their shoulders all hunched over.
Other than that it's a pretty good and (relatively) cheap car that's is very newbie friendly for first time EV owners who can use this to cut off gas prices on their daily commute.
The Leaf has the best EV batteries in North America with a thousand new chademo charger locations added every 3 or 4 months it is a great time to buy and drive a Leaf.
What qualifies the Leaf batteries as “the best”? The best at overheating? The best at slow charging - good luck finding a public DCFC faster than 50 kW for the Leaf? The best at degrading (2011 and 2012 Leafs are especially great examples of best degrading batteries)?
ITS A CERTIFIED SASS MACHINE FOR SURE!
Is this still using an air cooled battery, or did they finally integrate a BMS with liquid cooling in there?
Still air cooled. Ariya uses liquid cooled, at least.
Not needed no Leaf battery has ever caught on fire.
The CHAdeMO connector is slow (most stations in the U.S. only support 50 kW), there is a car that charges even slower. ->
ua-cam.com/video/QzCpbQT-cq4/v-deo.html
"Significant shortcomings"! It would be helpful if you would educate consumers about the disadvantages of an EV that does not have active thermal management in the traction battery.
360p?
Sorry! UA-cam is being slow in getting our high-quality version published today!
Hate the wheels on the new Leaf!
The old Leaf❤ will become the VW Beetle of electric cars
Great ! Thanks
Why are reviews always concerned about hp?? Obviously it is nit a Tesla. Talk about RANGE and CHARGING. Cmon man
We do.
I want an EV - but I want one that doesn't bottom-out on range. The Leaf would not be a valid choice, even though 90% of my driving is in-town. I might consider buying one if it was $15,000 but not more than that.
The bolt is a great little car, with tax incentives next year on used ones likely to be 4k. or if you sign up for regional alerts at certain price points you can get a used bolt for 18k most likely. the bolt will have atleast 80k warrenty on the battery. I suggest a early model, 2017 or 2018 premiere level, it has a ton of tech in it. and is a great buy. I've gotten 1 for 17,5 and one for 18,9 this year. a couple of years ago when prices werent so crazy you could just about get a new one for 19k. used for 14k. the battery cooling on the bolt means youll likely get 300k miles out of your battery. I've got 142K+ on both of my bolts and still doing really well.
@@mattbuie5878 I am considering a Bolt, or a Chevy Equionox. But this time I will want to lease a new one instead of buying. With this, I can get the best trim and hopefully with the warranty and savings the leasing fees will be acceptable. Also, can change cars with increased frequency. What you told me, however, is highly appreciated and worth considering.
80% charge in an hour?
Assume zero charge to 80%, this would equal 48 kWh. Charge rate is 100 kw… why would it take an hour to get to 80%
You won’t be able to max it at 100 kW, or really even find a 100 kW CHAdeMO charger.
The car won’t charge at a peak rate through the entire charge cycle, and from our experience the Leaf just charges slowly.
The charging speed and time we quote in this video is what the manufacturer claims the time will take.
basically all chademo chargers are 50kW so your limited to 50 anyhow.
Those wheels don't really match the rest of the cars aesthetic... They would look much better on a more retro styled car like the Ioniq 5.
😂 Chad Emo
It looks like a fred fintstone car (roof line).
this video does not apply to europe
Does an EV have to look so horrendous?
This was a good review! There's just one thing I would have liked to be included: time to full charge on an L1 charger, which is what the car comes with, or an L2 charger, which is what you find at most public charging stations in California. I've never seen a "chademo" charging station anywhere in the city I live in, so I'm much more interested in how long it takes to charge a Leaf SV+ with it's on-board L2 charger. What is the maximum charge rate? Some public L2 chargers can go as high as 9,600 watts (40 amps at 240 volts), most of them can supply 30 amps (7,200 watts), and a few older ones are limited to 20 amps (4,800 watts). Okay, I just looked this up: The "Plus" model Leaf with it's 62kWh battery takes 11.5 hours to charge on an L2 charger, while the 40kWh battery takes 8 hours. These numbers imply that the Leaf's onboard charger has a 5,600 watt maximum capacity at 240 volts, which is 23 amps. If you are using the L1 charger that comes with the car, these are all limited to about 1,440 watts (12 amps) no matter what brand of EV car you plug them into: the limit is the power capacity of the 120 volt wiring and circuit breakers in your house. So the 62 kw-hour battery in the Leaf Plus would take 62/1.44 = 43 hours to fully charge from 14% SOC to 84% SOC (the typical minimum/maximum SOC of any EV with a lithium ion battery). The battery in the Chevy Bolt is 65 kilowatt hours, so charging times for the Bolt are probably similar to the Leaf Plus for L1 and L2 charging.
From an Industrial Designer, I find the design to be superficially fussy; and it looks less interesting than the previous Leaf designs. It just looks like a regular car with fussy details and a bad looking head light design.
Gotta love that steering wheel that does not adjust in and out.
The Leaf steering wheel is telescoping. Why would that be a problem?
@@davidradzieta6458 I test drive a 2018 and it’s wheel only titled. Do 2022 Leafs now have a telescoping steering wheel?
The phones connected wireless
no boot spek
Perhaps Tesla paid you for this video. I love my 2023 Leaf!
Only half the rang I need. Kiwi
take a look at the bolt. its a great little car, and used ones will still have 80,90 or 100k left on the battery warranty. if you look hard you can still find a older 2017 Premeior level model for 18 or 19k in the US. i wouldnt dream of buying a non premiere chevy bolt. they are great little cars. great range!
cheap lol. in uk i just ordered one. £36k
EVs may very well overtake ICE vehicle sales when they can do one thing...100% Charge in 10 minutes or LESS. Until then....
the new ones can charge to 80 percent in 15 mins. In china there are cars that will do it in like 6 mins or something insane like that. 15 mins to me is fast enough, by the time you go to the bathroom or get a snack to bring to to eat in the car its done. People make such a big deal about charging, but in reality charging speeds ONLY matter for long distance trips. and even then, if you can start your day with a full charge, charge at lunch and charge at 1 other stop for then charging speed isn't that big of a deal. For me, at home or work. my charge takes 7 secounds. 3.5 secound to plug in. 3.5 secs to unplug. I dont think about having enough charge for my 100 mile daily driving because I know I will just have enough. as i had to fill up 2 to 3 times per week in my old honda, I'm saving close to 1 horu a week vs my ice vehicle of going to costco gas. I'm happy to have slightly slower road trips to save tons of time in regular daily life. Also save a lot of time from not having to do oil changes or other maints.
EVs will take over also when there are numerous chargers available every 50 miles or so.
Nissan missed the chance again with the most experience of electric cars. The dash is drab, the screen is pre historic. CHAdeMO should be changed to to DC or CCS as std.
The best thing is the Zero Emission decal is gone
dont understand why nissan even want to come out with rubbish like this in 2022/23.
Lame