That’s what I’m saying, other ships have the same problem and it is a general weakness with classmates like that. Navarin is just stronger facing dead ahead rather than angled and the weakness just needs to be worked around
@@DaFreshPotato not to bash you but they don't need to say it in the armor viewer, if a player reaches the highest tiers they should know that casemate secondaries are a weakness. That being said they could put something in the overview tab to remind people about the weakness. Navarin takes so much damage because the higher tier battleships are much more accurate than what Navarin was designed to face, tier 7, 8, and LT ships can easily exploit the outdated design making the armor feel worse than it is.
I never bought the rental version of Navarin but i do remember it performing pretty well against me. Now its a joke. So glad i didnt waste resources leveling the commander for it
Hello Fresh Potato! Good to watch your video again! Regarding the armour scheme of Navarin, I can only suppose that it is not as good as shown to us by wargaming. Only wargaming ( and God, of course) knows how that coding has been done to Navarin’s hull, the ship is floating rubbish. Pikardie is not guaranteed to remain the same as she is. Wargaming is playing a dangerous marketing game by demonstrating a good model and selling a rubbish instead 😂
I wish I could say the same. Play Picardie in a similar fashion to Navarin and you'll notice your survivability is way better... Navarin armor should be as strong or stronger then Picardie
@@DaFreshPotato Haven't the spare cash to waste on rentals, so I'll accept your word on that one. Doubtless WG, in their infinite wisdom, will impose some kind of buff at some point. That does seem their standard pattern - Campaign Ship first, "fix" (?) noteworthy flaws a few months down the road. :)
Grimlock or Spock would also work on the Picardie as well, the Navarin is a joke right now. WG could give the Navarin more HP and better dispersion to make the ship playable. German Battle Cruisers have a lot of case mate secondaries and are way tougher than Navarin.
When you angle the main armour belt of the ship, you are inadvertently turning all those secondary casemates locations into flat surfaces and corners into which the shells are forced to transfer all their kinetic energy. In other words, you're allowing the AP shell to do EXACTLY what it was designed to do and THAT'S why the Navarin is a floating citadel of death. Instead of one big somewhat flat and smooth surface to penetrate, you're floating around with a ship that might as well be built out of gigantic LEGO blocks.
Its armor scheme is broken somehow idk how. I played 2 games in it and said that’s enough lol. Its huge bow eats shells, and I’ve watch first hand a Div mate Zao go rear cheek on this thing for 7 citadels, the clip was nuts with the angle he did it at. I’m assuming its gotta be the old styled BBs don’t get that angled armor, just to keep the convo with campaign ships, if u think back to when Carnot came out people were saying the same thing, with its 25 mm bow u have to angle, and with the perfectly vertical side armor u just eat shell pens, that feels like Navarin. Also Ggs, saw u again in Nebraska enjoying the fruitful labor of your 2 DDs dying in 3 minutes, we’ve all been there lol
Those secondary casemates are shell catchers. Other ships with those casemates have the same issue
That’s what I’m saying, other ships have the same problem and it is a general weakness with classmates like that. Navarin is just stronger facing dead ahead rather than angled and the weakness just needs to be worked around
I wish they would find a way to put that on the armor viewer
@@DaFreshPotato not to bash you but they don't need to say it in the armor viewer, if a player reaches the highest tiers they should know that casemate secondaries are a weakness. That being said they could put something in the overview tab to remind people about the weakness.
Navarin takes so much damage because the higher tier battleships are much more accurate than what Navarin was designed to face, tier 7, 8, and LT ships can easily exploit the outdated design making the armor feel worse than it is.
I never bought the rental version of Navarin but i do remember it performing pretty well against me. Now its a joke. So glad i didnt waste resources leveling the commander for it
My man Jack 🤝
Renting and trying them out is fun, but aggravating when they get nerfed for no reason
Le Tir is so much fun on my Flandré. He's also fun to listen to.
Lol agreed... he's one of my favorite commanders in the game.
Hello Fresh Potato! Good to watch your video again! Regarding the armour scheme of Navarin, I can only suppose that it is not as good as shown to us by wargaming. Only wargaming ( and God, of course) knows how that coding has been done to Navarin’s hull, the ship is floating rubbish. Pikardie is not guaranteed to remain the same as she is. Wargaming is playing a dangerous marketing game by demonstrating a good model and selling a rubbish instead 😂
I hope they don't Nerf it
Lol. Man you are funny. 😂 Ggs.
Hopefully its coming up as a campaign
Would be nice and not nerfed
Tbh, I haven't noticed - have enormous fun with the Nav in Secondary mode.
I wish I could say the same. Play Picardie in a similar fashion to Navarin and you'll notice your survivability is way better...
Navarin armor should be as strong or stronger then Picardie
@@DaFreshPotato Haven't the spare cash to waste on rentals, so I'll accept your word on that one. Doubtless WG, in their infinite wisdom, will impose some kind of buff at some point. That does seem their standard pattern - Campaign Ship first, "fix" (?) noteworthy flaws a few months down the road. :)
Grimlock or Spock would also work on the Picardie as well, the Navarin is a joke right now. WG could give the Navarin more HP and better dispersion to make the ship playable. German Battle Cruisers have a lot of case mate secondaries and are way tougher than Navarin.
Exactly.. Navarin armor makes no sense, should be as good or better than the Germans
When you angle the main armour belt of the ship, you are inadvertently turning all those secondary casemates locations into flat surfaces and corners into which the shells are forced to transfer all their kinetic energy. In other words, you're allowing the AP shell to do EXACTLY what it was designed to do and THAT'S why the Navarin is a floating citadel of death. Instead of one big somewhat flat and smooth surface to penetrate, you're floating around with a ship that might as well be built out of gigantic LEGO blocks.
So discouraging... thanks for explaining
Good game
Thank you very much
You got that right 👍
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Its armor scheme is broken somehow idk how. I played 2 games in it and said that’s enough lol. Its huge bow eats shells, and I’ve watch first hand a Div mate Zao go rear cheek on this thing for 7 citadels, the clip was nuts with the angle he did it at. I’m assuming its gotta be the old styled BBs don’t get that angled armor, just to keep the convo with campaign ships, if u think back to when Carnot came out people were saying the same thing, with its 25 mm bow u have to angle, and with the perfectly vertical side armor u just eat shell pens, that feels like Navarin. Also Ggs, saw u again in Nebraska enjoying the fruitful labor of your 2 DDs dying in 3 minutes, we’ve all been there lol
I guess I'm desperate to understand n
Navarin's armor and why it sucks when it shouldn't.
That Nebraska game was depressing😅
@@DaFreshPotatowhat’s new, a depressing blowout in wowsl lol
That is why I built the ship for accuracy in the same secondary bill cuz your survivability is s***
All of my Russian battleships are built for accuracy, that's why I was so excited for the Navarin because it's supposed to be something different.
navarins armor could be excused if they gave it the pre nerf healing it had back in her rental period rather than the mediocre heal it has now
That's exactly what I say. It needs a super heal.
WG stopped releasing decent ships a long time ago.
Sure does seem like it
Navarin is ass
Lol... nothing more, nothing less😅
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Thank you I appreciate that my friend
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