This episode is such a big turning point, I almost feel like saying "welcome to Fringe!" again! After laying all the groundwork, this is really where things start to kick into gear.
The misaligned Y indicated that the same typewriter was used to produce the document earlier shown. So obviously somebody that had access to that typewriter when the document was procured was the author.
This series was my first exposure to Jared Harris, who was an amazing character here and went on to bigger things, yet I think he's still underrated by the industry. Walter seems to know a lot more about this teleportation thing than he's saying.
To me, this is one of the first truly crucial episodes of Fringe and definitely one of my favorites. In the last scene, which was intentionally tense and dramatic, Walter typed 'Ability' at the end. You noticed the elevated 'y,' but you didn’t quite connect it to something important from just before that. In that moment, the audience was meant to be subtly nudged to consider a larger question. Fringe loves planting breadcrumbs, and in this case, they did so in two ways: one with the ZFT text potentially foreshadowing parts of the story, and another by making a distinct connection. I think you were just too busy trying to read the actual text, which also happened to me the first time I saw this episode. I had to rewind a bit because I didn’t understand the focus on that elevated 'y' at first. Hope that helps 😊
I thought we had a bit more time before the cortexaphan storyline started, but now that it has Fringe is about to take flight. I like your speculations on William Bell. Believe me there were all kinds of crazy ideas back in the day. Yours, at least, are rooted more in the realm of sci-fi. I don't think people knew what to do with the idea of parallel worlds or multi-verses. Dr. Who had just aired the episodes with their parallel Earth stories shortly before Fringe started messing around with the idea so it had been introduced in sci-fi tv circles, but just barely. If you weren't a sci-fi or comic book reader, the idea was pretty new, especially to more mainstream viewers. My favorite theory was that Nina was actually a robot with William Bell's consciousness downloaded into the brain along with Nina's and both the originals were really dead. William had made the Ninabot when she was dying of cancer, so uploaded her into it and then when he was nearly killed in a car accident the Ninabot was able to retrieve and upload his consciousness into her brain. His body is preserved somewhere in Massive Dynamic as it heals and until someone can figure out how to reverse the transfer. So she's really hosting both of them and has a split personality, which is why she is sometimes helpful and sometimes not. It was fun to entertain the crazy theories.
Doctor Who(2005) was by no means the earliest sci-fi tv circle show to have episodes or entire arcs dealing with the multiverse. The Star Trek(1966-Present with a few gaps) franchise had been doing various versions of the multiverse since the 60s (even outside of Trekkie circles people recognized the evil beards of the Mirror universe, which was the earliest and most repeated alternate universe in Star Trek), Andromeda(2000-2005) had done a few multiverse episodes, Seven Days(1998-2001) was dealing with alternate timelines if not a full on multiverse weekly for three seasons, Sliders(1995-2000) was built on the multiverse and ran for five seasons (three of which were on broadcast television) and these are just examples I can think of off the top of my head from television. Of course there is the most famous alternate universe movie: It's a Wonderful Life (1946). I'm not saying that every viewer off the street had a full understanding of all of the ways that a multiverse works in 2008 - based on some comments I see online I would actually argue that most of them still don't understand how it works now - but by no means would I characterize pre-2008 sci-fi tv circles having "just barely" introduced parallel universes.
Not sure if it has ever been mentioned, but the actor who plays Jones, _Jared 'Prof. Moriarty' Harris_ , is the son of first Dumbledore _Richard Harris_ .
I agree with you on the point of a series concluding as opposed to being canceled. There's a certain sense of closure with a conclusion, even a bad one. With a cancellation, you're left hanging. You have no way of knowing what comes next.(I get that with the Song of Ice and Fire books. Frustration to the Nth degree!!!!) Now we get to something that's way beyond even fringe science. The concept of a multiverse and travelling though them. This is going to be a wild ride!
I've gotten to the point with streaming series that I don't bother watching them until they conclude. I've been stung too many times, even when the initial seasons have been wonderful (I'm looking at you, "Counterpart").
Nice to hear you like typewriters. In the 80s it was my job for quite some years to repair them. Especially the IBM ball head writers had just so great mechanics, it was really fun and challenging to repair them, and whenever i see them here in Fringe it reminds me of that time and i get a bit nostaligic. Oh .. thats maybe even a spoiler but i think its not really to "evil" to say that we will see also IBMs in the show, right ?
@@raymondamador1487 I know, but some people are just over the top where it is already a spoiler to say that somebody eats a pizza or strawberry ice in one episode. Or that Clark Kent is Superman 😂🤣
@@raymondamador1487 Btw.: funny story, another Fringe reactor wrote that she maybe wouldn't even have watched the show further if a friend hadn't "spoiled" her that a specific person would play a role in the show. I also know that from myself that when i'm not 100% catched by a show, i often just read positive and negative reviews, that of course mostly have spoilers, to get an opinion if its worth to continue watching.
This is not a spoiler, but a curious sort of easter egg. "David Robert Jones" is the real name of David Bowie. Later is the series, there is a character called "Thomas Jerome Newton", which was Bowie's character name in the movie "The Man who fell to earth". My guess is that the showrunners were big Bowie fans & that's the reason for the use of the name(s), but I haven't ever seen an on the record explanation.
You're catching the Observer. Some are extremely difficult, however. I'm convinced Harris was inserted into the show by demand of the producers, not the idea of the writers.
If you've liked it BEFORE now you're going to start loving it. Before this point there's no clear sign of the show's ambitions. Without spoiling, I will say that this changes with this episode. This is where you have to start paying attention (including to little seeming things). Something HUGE is coming. I won't say more than that... because you need to be unspoiled (I don't think a generic statement that something huge is coming gives up anything specific).
Manual typewriters were mechanical. When you open them up, there are metal rods that connect directly to the keys. The "y" was simply misaligned, and needed calibration. I am old enough to remember typewriter stores where typewriters were sold, and repaired. The typewriter my dad used was a large metal monstrosity that was probably built in the 30's. It was very heavy and had an art deco design. Of course by the 50's and sixties, most personal use typewriters were "portable," that is, you could put them in a case and carry them around. Depending on the model, they could weigh probably 10 pounds. It wasn't until the sixties and seventies that the IBM selectric came into general use (that were then replaced with computer keyboards in the late seventies, early eighties).
I have repaired typewriters for quite some years in the 80s, especially also IBM ball head writers. So whenever i see them used here in the show that makes me feel quite nostalgic. At some point i was even the only in my company one who replaced a "cycle clutch" directly at the customers office. This was the most repair you could do on IBMs and i was quite proud when i finally had the confidence to do it.
@@beldin2987 Great story! It's funny how attached we become to mechanical stuff from our youth. It seems like nowadays everything is disposable, and nobody repairs things anymore.
@@sidecardog5244 Oh yeah, it was also fun repairing dictaphones when they had still circuit boards with transistors and condensators and you really sat down with a circuit diagram and trying to understand how that worked and then using an oscilloscope to find out where something didn't worked right. But then with micro chips that all was no longer a thing and you could only change the complete circuit board and thats it. Was also the same with electronic typewriters of course. The electric IBMs were just the most fun, such great mechanic in them. They really were a piece of art in some way.
This episode is such a big turning point, I almost feel like saying "welcome to Fringe!" again! After laying all the groundwork, this is really where things start to kick into gear.
The misaligned Y indicated that the same typewriter was used to produce the document earlier shown. So obviously somebody that had access to that typewriter when the document was procured was the author.
wanted to slap Dakara when she said it...
This series was my first exposure to Jared Harris, who was an amazing character here and went on to bigger things, yet I think he's still underrated by the industry. Walter seems to know a lot more about this teleportation thing than he's saying.
To me, this is one of the first truly crucial episodes of Fringe and definitely one of my favorites. In the last scene, which was intentionally tense and dramatic, Walter typed 'Ability' at the end. You noticed the elevated 'y,' but you didn’t quite connect it to something important from just before that. In that moment, the audience was meant to be subtly nudged to consider a larger question. Fringe loves planting breadcrumbs, and in this case, they did so in two ways: one with the ZFT text potentially foreshadowing parts of the story, and another by making a distinct connection. I think you were just too busy trying to read the actual text, which also happened to me the first time I saw this episode. I had to rewind a bit because I didn’t understand the focus on that elevated 'y' at first.
Hope that helps 😊
The typewriter, Subtle? umm, it was made super obvious, the scene ends with dramatic music as well.
I thought we had a bit more time before the cortexaphan storyline started, but now that it has Fringe is about to take flight. I like your speculations on William Bell. Believe me there were all kinds of crazy ideas back in the day. Yours, at least, are rooted more in the realm of sci-fi. I don't think people knew what to do with the idea of parallel worlds or multi-verses. Dr. Who had just aired the episodes with their parallel Earth stories shortly before Fringe started messing around with the idea so it had been introduced in sci-fi tv circles, but just barely. If you weren't a sci-fi or comic book reader, the idea was pretty new, especially to more mainstream viewers.
My favorite theory was that Nina was actually a robot with William Bell's consciousness downloaded into the brain along with Nina's and both the originals were really dead. William had made the Ninabot when she was dying of cancer, so uploaded her into it and then when he was nearly killed in a car accident the Ninabot was able to retrieve and upload his consciousness into her brain. His body is preserved somewhere in Massive Dynamic as it heals and until someone can figure out how to reverse the transfer. So she's really hosting both of them and has a split personality, which is why she is sometimes helpful and sometimes not. It was fun to entertain the crazy theories.
Doctor Who(2005) was by no means the earliest sci-fi tv circle show to have episodes or entire arcs dealing with the multiverse. The Star Trek(1966-Present with a few gaps) franchise had been doing various versions of the multiverse since the 60s (even outside of Trekkie circles people recognized the evil beards of the Mirror universe, which was the earliest and most repeated alternate universe in Star Trek), Andromeda(2000-2005) had done a few multiverse episodes, Seven Days(1998-2001) was dealing with alternate timelines if not a full on multiverse weekly for three seasons, Sliders(1995-2000) was built on the multiverse and ran for five seasons (three of which were on broadcast television) and these are just examples I can think of off the top of my head from television. Of course there is the most famous alternate universe movie: It's a Wonderful Life (1946).
I'm not saying that every viewer off the street had a full understanding of all of the ways that a multiverse works in 2008 - based on some comments I see online I would actually argue that most of them still don't understand how it works now - but by no means would I characterize pre-2008 sci-fi tv circles having "just barely" introduced parallel universes.
Not sure if it has ever been mentioned, but the actor who plays Jones, _Jared 'Prof. Moriarty' Harris_ , is the son of first Dumbledore _Richard Harris_ .
I die every damn time at, "Hello, you."
Just love your reactions! Between Fringe and Firefly (only Serenity left, sadlly) these last months have been great!
Love this important episode & your reaction. Jared Harris makes everything he is in better.
I agree with you on the point of a series concluding as opposed to being canceled. There's a certain sense of closure with a conclusion, even a bad one. With a cancellation, you're left hanging. You have no way of knowing what comes next.(I get that with the Song of Ice and Fire books. Frustration to the Nth degree!!!!) Now we get to something that's way beyond even fringe science. The concept of a multiverse and travelling though them. This is going to be a wild ride!
I've gotten to the point with streaming series that I don't bother watching them until they conclude. I've been stung too many times, even when the initial seasons have been wonderful (I'm looking at you, "Counterpart").
@@kirkdarling4120 Good idea. Netflix has earned a reputation for cancelling a series after only one season.
@@kirkdarling4120 Problem is, when enough people do the same, you contribute to the show not being concluded.
There are a lot of things I could say about this episode, but the only thing that feels appropriate is: Olivia Dunham, the woman you are!
Nice to hear you like typewriters. In the 80s it was my job for quite some years to repair them. Especially the IBM ball head writers had just so great mechanics, it was really fun and challenging to repair them, and whenever i see them here in Fringe it reminds me of that time and i get a bit nostaligic.
Oh .. thats maybe even a spoiler but i think its not really to "evil" to say that we will see also IBMs in the show, right ?
Not a spoiler, mate 👍
@@raymondamador1487 I know, but some people are just over the top where it is already a spoiler to say that somebody eats a pizza or strawberry ice in one episode. Or that Clark Kent is Superman 😂🤣
@@beldin2987 Yeah, I hear you. People can go nuts over what's considered a spoiler. ☮️
@@raymondamador1487 Btw.: funny story, another Fringe reactor wrote that she maybe wouldn't even have watched the show further if a friend hadn't "spoiled" her that a specific person would play a role in the show.
I also know that from myself that when i'm not 100% catched by a show, i often just read positive and negative reviews, that of course mostly have spoilers, to get an opinion if its worth to continue watching.
This is not a spoiler, but a curious sort of easter egg. "David Robert Jones" is the real name of David Bowie. Later is the series, there is a character called "Thomas Jerome Newton", which was Bowie's character name in the movie "The Man who fell to earth".
My guess is that the showrunners were big Bowie fans & that's the reason for the use of the name(s), but I haven't ever seen an on the record explanation.
You're catching the Observer. Some are extremely difficult, however.
I'm convinced Harris was inserted into the show by demand of the producers, not the idea of the writers.
Great reaction DakaraJayne
😊👍
Love your hair and outfit, very Arya Stark(season 7&8)
If you've liked it BEFORE now you're going to start loving it. Before this point there's no clear sign of the show's ambitions. Without spoiling, I will say that this changes with this episode. This is where you have to start paying attention (including to little seeming things). Something HUGE is coming. I won't say more than that... because you need to be unspoiled (I don't think a generic statement that something huge is coming gives up anything specific).
loved this one. thanks for your reaction~
Manual typewriters were mechanical. When you open them up, there are metal rods that connect directly to the keys. The "y" was simply misaligned, and needed calibration. I am old enough to remember typewriter stores where typewriters were sold, and repaired.
The typewriter my dad used was a large metal monstrosity that was probably built in the 30's. It was very heavy and had an art deco design. Of course by the 50's and sixties, most personal use typewriters were "portable," that is, you could put them in a case and carry them around. Depending on the model, they could weigh probably 10 pounds. It wasn't until the sixties and seventies that the IBM selectric came into general use (that were then replaced with computer keyboards in the late seventies, early eighties).
I have repaired typewriters for quite some years in the 80s, especially also IBM ball head writers. So whenever i see them used here in the show that makes me feel quite nostalgic. At some point i was even the only in my company one who replaced a "cycle clutch" directly at the customers office. This was the most repair you could do on IBMs and i was quite proud when i finally had the confidence to do it.
@@beldin2987 Great story! It's funny how attached we become to mechanical stuff from our youth. It seems like nowadays everything is disposable, and nobody repairs things anymore.
@@sidecardog5244 Oh yeah, it was also fun repairing dictaphones when they had still circuit boards with transistors and condensators and you really sat down with a circuit diagram and trying to understand how that worked and then using an oscilloscope to find out where something didn't worked right.
But then with micro chips that all was no longer a thing and you could only change the complete circuit board and thats it. Was also the same with electronic typewriters of course.
The electric IBMs were just the most fun, such great mechanic in them. They really were a piece of art in some way.
I adore Markham 🥰
I believe you watched Stranger Things. Like Fringe it was based on MKUltra from the 1960s.
18:34 So many in the early days of your channel. Shows that ended too soon 🤷
Oh, this playlist is quite confused as it is backwards. :(
you didnt get the ending. You should watch the ending again.
Why did i misread Fringe as Fringle???
Welcome to Fringle Rock. lol