While I agree, that wasn’t what was being argued. Imagine if they could interpret whatever law they wanted not just the specific case? It may not always be a “victory” type situation. They decided a restraining order can lose your 2A rights…basically they aren’t perfect. A balance is necessary.
Once again, you are 100% correct. Anyone with ANY firearms training should know, full auto use is for suppressive fire. Personally I’m not expecting a zombie apocalypse in the near future that might require it. Full auto’s are an absolute hoot but I have trouble feeding my semi pistols and rifles. Guess next will be Miculeck and Latham get outlawed in certain states, LOL then SCOTUS will have to fix that with some common sense application of the law. Best lesson here is IF you’re serious about your rights - DON’T ABUSE THEM, we’re under a constant microscope.
As an infantry weapon, a squad auto rifle is used to produce a "beaten zone" on an enemy position, an area target. It's only effective prone off a bipod/tripod. I have a civilian use in Va., in the 80's where an H&K employee and his gf were coming home from the range, where he'd been testing a Ruger AC-556, got into a "road-rage" situation with a motorcyclist, who followed him to his home. The salesman defended himself and his GF with the Ruger. No idea if the shooting was done semi or full auto, just that the AC-556 was the weapon used.... I could possibly see a heavy AR on a bipod being employed as a "squad auto", with an extra large 60 to 100 rnd.magazine and a binary trigger, to produce a "beaten zone" effect, using the sights. None of the other systems would allow that to work, IMO...THAT INVOLVES SMALL UNIT TACTICS TRAINING, fire and manuver, by a fire team, not a single shooter. For sure, you'll burn more ammo, without the Army's logistic train to supply you.... Anywho, that's my two cents....
Good subject!! Here's what I think is better than a bumpstock. Install a trigger that is very light and has a short length of pull. Put a vertical foregrip on the rifle. It's hard to describe technique in a comment. When firing, keep your pistol grip hand loose so that your trigger finger is relatively stationary as the rifle recoils. Primarily grip the rifle and push forward with the vertical foregrip. Works better than a bumpstock when you get the technique down.
Aimed fire in semi-auto is definitely more effective than full auto in most situations. But I still believe civilians should be able to own any full auto weapon that they want without any govt intrusion or tax stamps.
Such a good common sense approach to firearms is attractive in this day and age. I thank you for your thoughtful comments. Look forward to all your posts.
Bump stocks are fun recreational range toys. Most people's gun collections are mainly fun recreational range shooters. Most guns are not ideally specifically dedicated purpose driven hunting or self-defense pieces.
I served four years in the Army in the early to mid eighties. Unfortunately I had to carry an m60 and an m16 the three years I was in West Germany. Automatic fire is for suppression and equipment damage. When the m60 is mounted on the bipod and the claws are dug into the ground, with the buttstock against your shoulder, you can be very effective with the proper practice. Shooting it from the hip or off hand is just a waste of ammo. It really shines when laying down suppression so troops can move from point A to point B. The m16 is easier to handle in automatic fire but it takes a lot of control and practice. One well placed shot is where it’s at!
Every point was solid as always. I think at the end you summed it up really well... We shouldn't be rubbing it in their faces given the current state of affairs. It's the same argument in a lot of ways as open vs concealed carry. There's three classes of gun owners right now: The ones that just shoot some and enjoy guns but aren't really 2A minded; the.vast majority of us who are, but are trying to deal with and work the system that exists and get our rights back like they're supposed to be; and then a very vocal no compromise group that, while they are right, sometimes have a tendency to cause problems where we really don't need problems to be caused at the moment, and exacerbates things by throwing gas on the flames. Anyway, please keep the videos coming, they're wonderful. God bless!
In the early 90s at the Eastgate Mall in SouthWest Ohio, a armored truck was robbed. The news report said full auto weapons were fired. The perpetrators were never caught.
When I was in the 10th special forces group it was a article 15 to fire your ar on full auto. At the same time we fired most foreign sub machine guns .the only practical use I saw for them was clearing a room in close quarters.
I gotta agree with you. Practical versus nonessential. I also agree that shooting machine guns are fun, but I rent them at a range, blast away, then go home. If I ever need one, there’ll be plenty laying on the ground around me! Good video and great information! Honestly I think Americans should be able to own full automatic weapons, but currently, it’s a very expensive process and it’s not worth trying to bootleg something together. 20 minutes of fun for what? 20 years in federal prison? Screw that!
The company Red Right Hand has a very effective upper receiver set up for the squad auto weapon/rifle that we have at home. Check it out before you knock it. They have videos showing how effective that is at distance
I’ve fired an AR with a bump stock and honestly, I found it hard to keep it on target. The rifle rode up and I just felt like it wasn’t accurate. It’s fun to shoot but it’s more like entertainment than anything else.
Everyone understands fully why found it’s difficult to keep on target. It’s not you, it’s that it’s fully automatic. Spray ‘n pray isn’t very effective.
I am absolutely glad SCOTUS ruled this way. That said, IMHO "bump stocks" are a silly, gimmicky accessory used to inaccurately waste ammo. Never fired one, but have seen them in use. As a former M60 gunner, I do have to disagree with you about the accuracy of a real "full auto."
There's a reason that semi auto fire isn't allowed at machine gun matches,.......semi auto is an unfair advantage. If they didn't disallow it all the MG matches would be won by some guy laying down accurate semi auto fire and that just wouldn't do.
In the service I carried and used an FN FAL, 7.62 x 51. In full auto selection it was after two or three rounds an effective anti-aircraft machine gun. These battle rifles are quite useless in full-auto mode. .
Ammo sales is all they are really good for. Some people may get their jollies from rapid fire. I find it infinitely more rewarding pulling the trigger myself. As an old veteran, I always questioned the usefulness of full-auto in a rifle. Sub-guns and machine guns are a separate issue.
No offense at all. I couldn't have said it better myself. As a military weapons instructor, I've burned a lot of ammo on full auto. M-16, GAU-5, M-60, M-249, M-2, M-240B, UZI, Thompson, M-14 and a few others. They are fun, but not that practical beyond a war time scenario. There is nothing more effective in armed conflict than the well aimed shot.
If you have Jerry Miceluk’s finger you’ll never need a Machine gun, cuz you are one!!! I hope he registered himself pre 1986??? It would suck if he’s just a dealer sample.
Here Here! I did just that, went to a range and rented. A whole lot of Fun! Cost of ownership and headache of paperwork just puts me off. Couldn't agree more. Our Liberty and Freedoms are Rights that we can choose to exercise or not. Sober thinking is required not a UTUB moment of "Oh Look at Me" I get what folks see in this and have the same attitude about suppressors.
I had a SOCOM 16 for awhile. Accurate and easy to shoot. Fun to shoot. I soon discovered I just couldn’t afford to shoot it. My cheap streak got a hold on me. Even with just semi-auto fire I’d look at the ground around me and see a bunch of money on the ground and a lot more time at the loading bench.
Reloading is the best way to save $$ and custom your loads, but shooting is getting expensive! Percentage wise, probably not worse than 30 years ago, but the prices just seen so out of line.
You are spot on Dick! I too have fired an AR with a bump stock once, it was fun but not anything that I would buy. I may not be interested in buying one, but agree that they should be legal to own.
Full auto is great fun, but I agree, doesn't help an individual very much. I still want a Sterling, mostly because I saw them so much in 1960s spy movies.
Well, Dick, THANK YOU for this very thoughtful and important video (with which, fwiw, I fully agree). I’d like to add one matter that you did not discuss regarding the non-military tactical / defensive use of very rapid cyclic rate firearms (regardless of their design). Obviously, the shooter is accountable for EVERY round that departs the muzzle. Accordingly - and I am NOT discussing “fun times” at ranges or other entirely safe venues - the individual who employs (for example) a lawfully owned fully automatic weapon, for legal defense, absolutely will be held responsible when one or more of his projectiles miss the target, travel at high velocities down range for perhaps a couple hundred yards, and then - God forbid - wound or kill an innocent. Moreover, your excellent points regards the ardent anti-2A community will certainly apply is such situations. There’s no doubt that such tragedies can occur with a .22LR, single shots, bolt action rifle, BUT how much more likely are they to arise with a fully automatic firearm? Only hits count . . . and (imho) what may well be worse than losing a gunfight (and being wounded or killed in the process ), is being responsible for an innocent’s death or the severe wounds. We clearly incur that risk with every shot we fire in an uncontrolled environment, however, the danger is FAR more acute when “spraying and praying.”
I much prefer binary triggers to bumpstocks. I think the former is more likely to be practical in full auto situations. I think that in any unusual situation where an AR15 is needed for “serious use,” ordinary semiautomatic function is by far the most practical mode. That said, I like having the binary trigger option for the very rare and unlikely instance where it might make more sense.
I like pistol marksmanship. I don’t have much fun with rifles. But Other people do. You could say there’s no reason for archery, but some like it. I’ve never in my life met someone who used a bump stock. But I don’t assume it’s not somebody’s sport. It does bother me that if WW3 goes so far that we are all our own militia, all we are going to have is bump stocks.
Both full auto and bump stocks have 1 primary use and that is for covering fire for position moves. Agreed it is a waste of ammo and would be better with a burst.
I don't really understand the blocking of FRTs. They said with binary triggers the pulling of the trigger and the releasing are separate functions so 100% legal. Ideally the FRTs could probably designed not for bump firing but actually resetting the trigger faster for follow-up shots.
Id much rather an sbr with suppressor than a full auto. I have zero use for a bumb stock but one of the frt looks a little more appealing although I do not own one.
Another excellent video. Agree with Dick, focus on quality not quantity in general, but yes everyone who wants to should experience full auto at least once. There are very few people who shoot enough. In Illinois only required to qualify once per year. Also agree we should not try to rub our victories into the opposition nose. We need to jerp fighting for our cause with knowledge especially from the founders of this country who used a few words to reinforce our god given right. The 2nd amendment right never has been negotiable or changeable.
Often times elderly people are considered "wise" simply because of age and or past deeds or occupations. Binary triggers are NOT currently illegal or in "limbo". There is no "cause" involved in 2a support. It is a right. And as always someone will try to infringe on that. The bump stock ban was overturned like so many convictions have been. The same people cheering for those overturned convictions are now sour over this. Yes firearms are often used as tools. They are also often a FUN source of amusement usually reserved for folks too old to play with dolls or "action figures". Why not let those who enjoy them and can afford to do so do it without such criticism. And as we live in the "information age", let them publish these escapades on whatever social media/video outlets they choose. If certain people are offended they need not watch.
Tools, and then there's toys. As Dick says. I agree the abuse of toys is giving the 2A community a bad rep which hurts the cause. Toy accessories like bump stocks and FRT may be fun but are not practical for tool use. But their novelty makes headlines and typically not in a good way.
I have one of those 10 years ago, it was fun. But you get tired of it. Like everything else spending money on ammo, I sold it.😅 You're absolutely right. I've seen some youtubers doing things with guns. That doesn't make the second amendment. Look good at all in other word. is another nail in the coffin don't advertise it.
Wise words sir and it takes a lot of training and education to use any kind of fast shooter esp bump stocks etc but even purpose built guns select fire or machine guns are still a difficult thing to control their let's face it build for mass fire situations on battle field where your on the line and under mass attack in my humble opinion and yes I've used some a d could bump fire a sks off shoulder or hip but that was 30 years ago when it was legal here now in Australia unless you walk into a gun store your damn lucky to see a gun we can't even own a semi auto 22 or pump action 12 gauge except under extremely tight rules in very special circumstances eg professional shooter doing mass pest extermination love the show dick esp last few shows as it was a subject that had to be talked about be prepared be safe n like you I pray your wrong but I fear your not n fear for the world if we aren't wrong there's a lot of evil be prepared but don't break the law be safe one n all
if the anti=gunners had their way, the only folks that would have any guns would be leo, military, the bad guys and their own personal armed security. having 20 years in uniform, 15 of them serving with the usmc, i cannot see any pratical reason for folks to have full auto weapons for anything other than the fun factor. at best full auto is a spray and pray system.
I'm totally with you on this one, I've always wanted to shoot a full auto just once, just like I would love to shoot a 50 BMG once. But I have no desire to try to feed one. All fully automatic weapons really do is waste a lot of ammo, that's why the military switched them from full auto to a three-round burst in the first place.
i agree what your saying wouldn't want full auto on my guns that's what someone else wants to do why not. puddins fab shop copied your intro song. i mean there's laws about murder & theft etc having laws against full auto & shorter than 18 inches shotguns never made sense & waste of time thanks.
Supreme Court should have admitted the NFA was itself UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
Agreed
While I agree, that wasn’t what was being argued. Imagine if they could interpret whatever law they wanted not just the specific case? It may not always be a “victory” type situation. They decided a restraining order can lose your 2A rights…basically they aren’t perfect. A balance is necessary.
Bumb Stocks - What are they good for? Basically wasting ammo !
Once again, you are 100% correct. Anyone with ANY firearms training should know, full auto use is for suppressive fire. Personally I’m not expecting a zombie apocalypse in the near future that might require it. Full auto’s are an absolute hoot but I have trouble feeding my semi pistols and rifles.
Guess next will be Miculeck and Latham get outlawed in certain states, LOL then SCOTUS will have to fix that with some common sense application of the law. Best lesson here is IF you’re serious about your rights - DON’T ABUSE THEM, we’re under a constant microscope.
Common sense should not offend anyone, I look forward to your podcasts every week. Thanks and keep them coming.
With that M240 barking in the background, it was tough to determine the distinctive sound of a bumpstock equipped rifle in Vegas.
As an infantry weapon, a squad auto rifle is used to produce a "beaten zone" on an enemy position, an area target. It's only effective prone off a bipod/tripod. I have a civilian use in Va., in the 80's where an H&K employee and his gf were coming home from the range, where he'd been testing a Ruger AC-556, got into a "road-rage" situation with a motorcyclist, who followed him to his home. The salesman defended himself and his GF with the Ruger. No idea if the shooting was done semi or full auto, just that the AC-556 was the weapon used.... I could possibly see a heavy AR on a bipod being employed as a "squad auto", with an extra large 60 to 100 rnd.magazine and a binary trigger, to produce a "beaten zone" effect, using the sights. None of the other systems would allow that to work, IMO...THAT INVOLVES SMALL UNIT TACTICS TRAINING, fire and manuver, by a fire team, not a single shooter. For sure, you'll burn more ammo, without the Army's logistic train to supply you....
Anywho, that's my two cents....
Beautifully stated, brother, beautifully stated. Your conclusion was 'SPOT ON', as our British cousins would say!
Great video, I agree with you completely...... the future of our country depends on people like you, keep up the good work.
Good subject!! Here's what I think is better than a bumpstock. Install a trigger that is very light and has a short length of pull. Put a vertical foregrip on the rifle. It's hard to describe technique in a comment. When firing, keep your pistol grip hand loose so that your trigger finger is relatively stationary as the rifle recoils. Primarily grip the rifle and push forward with the vertical foregrip. Works better than a bumpstock when you get the technique down.
Aimed fire in semi-auto is definitely more effective than full auto in most situations. But I still believe civilians should be able to own any full auto weapon that they want without any govt intrusion or tax stamps.
Such a good common sense approach to firearms is attractive in this day and age. I thank you for your thoughtful comments. Look forward to all your posts.
Bump stocks are fun recreational range toys. Most people's gun collections are mainly fun recreational range shooters. Most guns are not ideally specifically dedicated purpose driven hunting or self-defense pieces.
I can see a potential use for binary triggers in a close to midrange defense situation. The rest are simply play toys. Well said, well said!
But if you make a good shot with the "pull" and don't need a second shot, what do you do with the "release?"
Most binaries can have the safety flipped after only firing one shot. I still do not want to own one. Too much money to feed them
@@Razor-gx2dq I didn't know you could "safe" one between shots ... never used one.
There is a possibility of a double tap being useful is what I am saying.
I agree with you.
I served four years in the Army in the early to mid eighties. Unfortunately I had to carry an m60 and an m16 the three years I was in West Germany. Automatic fire is for suppression and equipment damage. When the m60 is mounted on the bipod and the claws are dug into the ground, with the buttstock against your shoulder, you can be very effective with the proper practice. Shooting it from the hip or off hand is just a waste of ammo. It really shines when laying down suppression so troops can move from point A to point B. The m16 is easier to handle in automatic fire but it takes a lot of control and practice. One well placed shot is where it’s at!
Every point was solid as always. I think at the end you summed it up really well... We shouldn't be rubbing it in their faces given the current state of affairs. It's the same argument in a lot of ways as open vs concealed carry. There's three classes of gun owners right now: The ones that just shoot some and enjoy guns but aren't really 2A minded; the.vast majority of us who are, but are trying to deal with and work the system that exists and get our rights back like they're supposed to be; and then a very vocal no compromise group that, while they are right, sometimes have a tendency to cause problems where we really don't need problems to be caused at the moment, and exacerbates things by throwing gas on the flames. Anyway, please keep the videos coming, they're wonderful. God bless!
I don’t know one person that would be running out to buy one, but it’s a good decision
Well said, Mr. Fairburn. Tools to be utilized to specific purpose. Not toys. Thank you.
In the early 90s at the Eastgate Mall in SouthWest Ohio, a armored truck was robbed. The news report said full auto weapons were fired. The perpetrators were never caught.
Thanks again for a great video and common sense.
When I was in the 10th special forces group it was a article 15 to fire your ar on full auto. At the same time we fired most foreign sub machine guns .the only practical use I saw for them was clearing a room in close quarters.
I gotta agree with you. Practical versus nonessential. I also agree that shooting machine guns are fun, but I rent them at a range, blast away, then go home. If I ever need one, there’ll be plenty laying on the ground around me! Good video and great information! Honestly I think Americans should be able to own full automatic weapons, but currently, it’s a very expensive process and it’s not worth trying to bootleg something together. 20 minutes of fun for what? 20 years in federal prison? Screw that!
I'm in California so these are banned no matter what along with binary triggers. The best we can do is get a 1lb trigger.
The company Red Right Hand has a very effective upper receiver set up for the squad auto weapon/rifle that we have at home. Check it out before you knock it. They have videos showing how effective that is at distance
I’ve fired an AR with a bump stock and honestly, I found it hard to keep it on target. The rifle rode up and I just felt like it wasn’t accurate. It’s fun to shoot but it’s more like entertainment than anything else.
Everyone understands fully why found it’s difficult to keep on target. It’s not you, it’s that it’s fully automatic. Spray ‘n pray isn’t very effective.
I am absolutely glad SCOTUS ruled this way. That said, IMHO "bump stocks" are a silly, gimmicky accessory used to inaccurately waste ammo. Never fired one, but have seen them in use. As a former M60 gunner, I do have to disagree with you about the accuracy of a real "full auto."
I said "handheld automatic fire." I've seen experienced gunners on an M60 fire nice groups at 300+ yards ... from a bipod.
There's a reason that semi auto fire isn't allowed at machine gun matches,.......semi auto is an unfair advantage. If they didn't disallow it all the MG matches would be won by some guy laying down accurate semi auto fire and that just wouldn't do.
I'm really enjoying your videos. Keep them coming. Thank you
In the service I carried and used an FN FAL, 7.62 x 51. In full auto selection it was after two or three rounds an effective anti-aircraft machine gun.
These battle rifles are quite useless in full-auto mode.
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Ammo sales is all they are really good for. Some people may get their jollies from rapid fire. I find it infinitely more rewarding pulling the trigger myself.
As an old veteran, I always questioned the usefulness of full-auto in a rifle. Sub-guns and machine guns are a separate issue.
Well spoken sir. I’ve shot a few full autos over my LE career and always thought of them as fun guns, just not practical. Thanks for the video!
Thank you for your time and effort posting this information. Only hits count…
No offense at all. I couldn't have said it better myself. As a military weapons instructor, I've burned a lot of ammo on full auto. M-16, GAU-5, M-60, M-249, M-2, M-240B, UZI, Thompson, M-14 and a few others. They are fun, but not that practical beyond a war time scenario. There is nothing more effective in armed conflict than the well aimed shot.
So true, turning ammo to a pile of brass😀
Spent brass = 😁
If you have Jerry Miceluk’s finger you’ll never need a Machine gun, cuz you are one!!! I hope he registered himself pre 1986??? It would suck if he’s just a dealer sample.
Now that's funny, right there!
Here Here! I did just that, went to a range and rented. A whole lot of Fun! Cost of ownership and headache of paperwork just puts me off. Couldn't agree more. Our Liberty and Freedoms are Rights that we can choose to exercise or not. Sober thinking is required not a UTUB moment of "Oh Look at Me" I get what folks see in this and have the same attitude about suppressors.
I had a SOCOM 16 for awhile. Accurate and easy to shoot. Fun to shoot. I soon discovered I just couldn’t afford to shoot it. My cheap streak got a hold on me. Even with just semi-auto fire I’d look at the ground around me and see a bunch of money on the ground and a lot more time at the loading bench.
Reloading is the best way to save $$ and custom your loads, but shooting is getting expensive! Percentage wise, probably not worse than 30 years ago, but the prices just seen so out of line.
You are spot on Dick!
I too have fired an AR with a bump stock once, it was fun but not anything that I would buy.
I may not be interested in buying one, but agree that they should be legal to own.
Yes they are ALL worth the trouble.
Its up to ME to decide if I want a:
Bump stock
Semi-Auto rifle
Standard capacity mag
Whatever
NOT the government.
Full auto is great fun, but I agree, doesn't help an individual very much. I still want a Sterling, mostly because I saw them so much in 1960s spy movies.
Well, Dick, THANK YOU for this very thoughtful and important video (with which, fwiw, I fully agree). I’d like to add one matter that you did not discuss regarding the non-military tactical / defensive use of very rapid cyclic rate firearms (regardless of their design). Obviously, the shooter is accountable for EVERY round that departs the muzzle. Accordingly - and I am NOT discussing “fun times” at ranges or other entirely safe venues - the individual who employs (for example) a lawfully owned fully automatic weapon, for legal defense, absolutely will be held responsible when one or more of his projectiles miss the target, travel at high velocities down range for perhaps a couple hundred yards, and then - God forbid - wound or kill an innocent. Moreover, your excellent points regards the ardent anti-2A community will certainly apply is such situations.
There’s no doubt that such tragedies can occur with a .22LR, single shots, bolt action rifle, BUT how much more likely are they to arise with a fully automatic firearm?
Only hits count . . . and (imho) what may well be worse than losing a gunfight (and being wounded or killed in the process ), is being responsible for an innocent’s death or the severe wounds. We clearly incur that risk with every shot we fire in an uncontrolled environment, however, the danger is FAR more acute when “spraying and praying.”
If you want to go full auto,go three round burst. Unless you are just shooting for fun !
I much prefer binary triggers to bumpstocks. I think the former is more likely to be practical in full auto situations. I think that in any unusual situation where an AR15 is needed for “serious use,” ordinary semiautomatic function is by far the most practical mode. That said, I like having the binary trigger option for the very rare and unlikely instance where it might make more sense.
Another great video!!! Thank you.
I like pistol marksmanship. I don’t have much fun with rifles. But Other people do. You could say there’s no reason for archery, but some like it. I’ve never in my life met someone who used a bump stock. But I don’t assume it’s not somebody’s sport. It does bother me that if WW3 goes so far that we are all our own militia, all we are going to have is bump stocks.
Both full auto and bump stocks have 1 primary use and that is for covering fire for position moves. Agreed it is a waste of ammo and would be better with a burst.
I don't really understand the blocking of FRTs. They said with binary triggers the pulling of the trigger and the releasing are separate functions so 100% legal. Ideally the FRTs could probably designed not for bump firing but actually resetting the trigger faster for follow-up shots.
What is it good for? Absolutely nothing, say it again! Good god, y'all!
Very well said sir.
Great content
👍🏽
Id much rather an sbr with suppressor than a full auto. I have zero use for a bumb stock but one of the frt looks a little more appealing although I do not own one.
Another excellent video. Agree with Dick, focus on quality not quantity in general, but yes everyone who wants to should experience full auto at least once.
There are very few people who shoot enough. In Illinois only required to qualify once per year. Also agree we should not try to rub our victories into the opposition nose. We need to jerp fighting for our cause with knowledge especially from the founders of this country who used a few words to reinforce our god given right. The 2nd amendment right never has been negotiable or changeable.
Often times elderly people are considered "wise" simply because of age and or past deeds or occupations. Binary triggers are NOT currently illegal or in "limbo". There is no "cause" involved in 2a support. It is a right. And as always someone will try to infringe on that. The bump stock ban was overturned like so many convictions have been. The same people cheering for those overturned convictions are now sour over this. Yes firearms are often used as tools. They are also often a FUN source of amusement usually reserved for folks too old to play with dolls or "action figures". Why not let those who enjoy them and can afford to do so do it without such criticism. And as we live in the "information age", let them publish these escapades on whatever social media/video outlets they choose. If certain people are offended they need not watch.
Tools, and then there's toys. As Dick says. I agree the abuse of toys is giving the 2A community a bad rep which hurts the cause. Toy accessories like bump stocks and FRT may be fun but are not practical for tool use. But their novelty makes headlines and typically not in a good way.
I have one of those 10 years ago, it was fun.
But you get tired of it. Like everything else spending money on ammo, I sold it.😅 You're absolutely right. I've seen some youtubers doing things with guns. That doesn't make the second amendment. Look good at all in other word. is another nail in the coffin don't advertise it.
Great common sense advice!
Wise words sir and it takes a lot of training and education to use any kind of fast shooter esp bump stocks etc but even purpose built guns select fire or machine guns are still a difficult thing to control their let's face it build for mass fire situations on battle field where your on the line and under mass attack in my humble opinion and yes I've used some a d could bump fire a sks off shoulder or hip but that was 30 years ago when it was legal here now in Australia unless you walk into a gun store your damn lucky to see a gun we can't even own a semi auto 22 or pump action 12 gauge except under extremely tight rules in very special circumstances eg professional shooter doing mass pest extermination love the show dick esp last few shows as it was a subject that had to be talked about be prepared be safe n like you I pray your wrong but I fear your not n fear for the world if we aren't wrong there's a lot of evil be prepared but don't break the law be safe one n all
As expensive as ammo is today it's foolish to find a way burn through your supply in the most inaccurate means possible.
It's fun to splurge
Why do you need to shoot that fast ?
How about carful shooters, not brass machines.
What are they good for?? Nothing !! just like the ATF IRS
if the anti=gunners had their way, the only folks that would have any guns would be leo, military, the bad guys and their own personal armed security. having 20 years in uniform, 15 of them serving with the usmc, i cannot see any pratical reason for folks to have full auto weapons for anything other than the fun factor. at best full auto is a spray and pray system.
Bumb stocks ? What is that ??
An old fart who doesn't check his spelling ... that's what that is!
It's a secret and we can't tell you! We were taught to never tell our secrets cause that wouldn't be nice! Nothing personal buddy!
I'm totally with you on this one, I've always wanted to shoot a full auto just once, just like I would love to shoot a 50 BMG once. But I have no desire to try to feed one. All fully automatic weapons really do is waste a lot of ammo, that's why the military switched them from full auto to a three-round burst in the first place.
i agree what your saying wouldn't want full auto on my guns that's what someone else wants to do why not. puddins fab shop copied your intro song. i mean there's laws about murder & theft etc having laws against full auto & shorter than 18 inches shotguns never made sense & waste of time thanks.
wasting ammo.
I don’t understand why anyone needs these
It’s not about need
I don't understand why you needed to post this comment.
I don't understand why you need to be watching a UA-cam video wasting time data and electricity or why you need to be wasting space commenting on it.
Absolutely nothing...