From the Khwatenge interview on Iko nini I've realised that; He is well connected to the upper echelons of the Kenyan society He might be bitter he never got out with so much wealth He is here to paint the true picture of the history of Kenya as a historian not as a spy He never talks so much about his role in the whole history but as a witness I enjoyed this thank you for having him on the Pod
Tom Mboya never hired any gunman to kill Jomo Kenyatta. That is quite irresponsible of you , James Khwatenge . On the morning of July 5th 1969, Nahashon Njenga wanted to harm Tom Mboya at Panafric Hotel. But the crowd was too much for him. Tom was a peaceful man who never harbored murderous ambitions.
Catherine Kasavuli defined elegance for decades. As a young girl growing up in Kenya, I would be fascinated by her eloquence and grace as she read the news day after day and year after year! RIP Catherine Kasavuli 🙏
President Kenyattas fueneral had been planned nine years prior , and one of the reasons Moi easily outwitted his enemies is that he had gone to England nine years prior and had gone through the funeral of a head of state still in power..And when the President died Moi did a fantastic job that everyone was awed so that really helped him.
Damn , I agree with most. This was covo came with a lot of surprises. Mwaf & Ian asanteni … The bit about TJM working with his ultimate assassin & it backfiring is something I need to look into! Great Covo!
The bit on T.J. Mboya, having hired the same man who later bumped him off, to kill Jomo Kenyatta is but old special branch disinformation hogwash; a historical rational for assassination of Mboya by ethnic bigots. Khwatenge might have picked up the info planted on SB files by his superiors who must have been involved in that heinous deed.
He wasn't factual on the Mutula issue, at the time of his death he wasn't a Minister. Jubilee had just come to power and he was the new and first Senator of Makueni County. While one would say he used Viagra, it's a simplistic way to look at things. Don't forget he was in the know of the whereabouts of all I.C.C witnesses and privy to evidence the state had against the same witnesses. Plus the comments he had made prior to the elections and after the elections one can't fail in seeing the nexus to his death(killing)
In another 40years another brave person will come up and tell us the truth about the crap between 2002 and 2027. Let's be patient guys. We might even know what happened to Musando as well as other murders.
There is a law that allows an officer after 20yrs of retirement to talk about what happened in get,including army general. Ni vile wengi huogopa.People should thank this guy,it is a risk,when someone comes for him even those who air his stuff can be in trouble
Correction: Jomo Kenyatta's funeral protocals, procedures and orders were not created based on his health. They were inherited by Commonwealth Countries from The British Monarchy. (Watch pre Kenyatta's British & some Commonwealth Funerals. The Kenya Armed Forces, Kenya's political structure, Education, Health, etc were mirror images of The British Government
For the young generation, Maziwa ya nyayo is not milk from Moi's farm. It was milk that used to be supplied to public schools to encourage pupils to stay in school.
Hapana Pio Gama Pinto was CIA, Mboya was MI6. The British were pissed off that he was building strong ties to the USA, beginning with the Kennedy airlifts.
Quite insightful I must say, the Kenyatta, Njenga, Mboya conundrum is however new to me. On the Kasavuli issue I agree with him 100% because I was in the thick of things myself. Can't wait to read his book. Just a small observation though....kindly keep your interview "clean", like Okwatenge says, "you never know who is watching". Thanks
The Ouko story is sad, that said, I don't understand what was/is exceptional about him, he wasn't a thinker or revolutionary, he was a company guy who was very pro status quo...unless of. course there's something you know I don't know.
According to the Luo custom mtoto wa inje male cannot b burried in that homestead where he has grown up in and if he’s burried his grave would not be as deep as the other graves in that homestead it wil b a shallow grave that would make u wonder if this body starts decaying 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️so even if Ouko was a Tiriki he had to b burried elsewhere or shallow grave
Generally politics is a dirty game, even majority of thhe so called good politicians who do good for the people have to play dirty to get to that position.
As a former police officer my Blood brother James khwatenge, unajua siri ya serikali haitolewi nje You are an excellent attention seeker of the highest grade
There's no way you'll convince me that gava haijapeana okey hii content to be released..No Way!! the so called dynastic families are being devoured completely..My take!
Mr.Khwatenge, need to study Luo history and migration.Subas came as Bantus, but intermarried,intermingled and got assimilated, only the name remains but you can’t divide a Suba from a Luo, Moi tried for political reasons but failed.The people James are mentioning, had their lineage in Luos .Luo is an umbrella name for different sub groups. Luo Abasuba became recognized as a subgroup within the Luo community..
Hallow sir, can you comment on the allegation that Ouko did not return with Moi from the US trip as testified by Barack his brother before the Gor Sungu Commission and that his plane arrived almost at the same time as that of Moi and Biwot creating an impression that they had indeed returned together. Also,was Ouko's security and passport withdrawned at the aiport and was he orded to go home as alleged? Some reports also claim that Dr Ouko was picked from his home by Biwot, Oyugi and Anguka plus 3 civilian assassins whom Michael Owiti the civilian Nyanza PC driver had picked, can you confirm these. The white Mercedes Benz that belonged to Nyanza PC is what Selina vividly remembered, did you ever interrogate it's driver, Michael Owiti.
But what problems do people have with Subas being Bantu? Its clear in History that Subas came from the royal family of Baganda Kingdom after there was a coup that saw killing of the King Junju in the late 1770s. They then escaped via Lake Victora and settled in the Rusinga and Mfangano islands. They also went Mainland in the Mbita and Gwassi Hills area. Some sections settled in the Migori area. But of course, Luos had already settled around the Lake Victoria region. And so they intermarried with the Luos and stayed there peacefully to date, assimilated, though not fully. There are also Suba clans in Luhyaland and amongst Kisiis, according to some people.
Just chilling stories OMG! I was young but I remember on the late Rev. Alexander Muge, Minister Peter Okondo was also involved. He allegedly told the late Muge, "...you will not leave busia alive..." and it came to pass that he died after attending an event there as he headed back to Eldoret. Very shocking death then, it shook the nation.
One outstanding revelation is the intriguing Tom mboya plan to have Mzee jomo Kenyatta killed by one Jenga and how the hiring killed Mboya after delaying for a while and not killing Mzee.
Kwatenge... i like your insights into history but I disagree with your assertion that Jomo was sickly by 1969 when Mboya was killed. I don't think Mboya was plotting to take out Jomo
Kwatenga tell us about yourself and your contribution to improve Kenya.You talk about the dead who can't verify what you tell us.Tell us about yourself.
@@chrpmaginaatsyaya3888 Thanks for wishing to know about me.Am a believer in fairness and am usually pleased off when someone talking hours on end analysing the failures of the deceased people who cannot defend themselves. So l prefer people to discuss how they worked to cub the atrocities that were going on because we hear about what transpigred but we are not in a position to change what went wrong because those you are discussing are long departed. Get permission from their relatives before you become mouthy about them all day long.
@@chrpmaginaatsyaya3888 Okey,about myself l hate guys discussing the departed and l hate those who spend time analysing others especially the dead.Thats all about myself.
I remember the day the OTC Bus to Mombasa was Bombed like yesterday. It was on a Saturday and there was a Harambee Function to Raise Money at the Kenya Polytechnic Main Hall and the Live Band in attendance was led by George Ramogi. The Bomb was Detonated when we were Busy Dancing and the Report we received was that nobody goes to town because there is an Attempt to Overthrow the government which was not true.
4:49 Ian anasuppress that she came joke...we all know what was coming and that is how funny we been in this biatch...we know the pun is coming but dude read the room 😂😂😂😂
Me to and since nitoke eastlando ndio nikajua I have an ear for birds call. I can hear them and they get my attention, if am not so wrong hizi sounds like hornbill. Great show siku zote.
No amount of history lessons in school would teach what this gentleman has passed onto us. Thank you Mwaf and team this was powerful
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Why did not say so when Kasavuli and Moi were still alive. Stupid
From the Khwatenge interview on Iko nini I've realised that;
He is well connected to the upper echelons of the Kenyan society
He might be bitter he never got out with so much wealth
He is here to paint the true picture of the history of Kenya as a historian not as a spy
He never talks so much about his role in the whole history but as a witness
I enjoyed this thank you for having him on the Pod
Huyu ni njaa inamsumbua
@@josephochieng5531Have you ever been to this guy? Do you know the status of his family?
Do research and think be4 you speak.
@@josephochieng5531 atay kii??
Khwatenge... A well composed man
Tom Mboya never hired any gunman to kill Jomo Kenyatta. That is quite irresponsible of you , James Khwatenge . On the morning of July 5th 1969, Nahashon Njenga wanted to harm Tom Mboya at Panafric Hotel. But the crowd was too much for him. Tom was a peaceful man who never harbored murderous ambitions.
Kubali history gathee
Catherine Kasavuli defined elegance for decades. As a young girl growing up in Kenya, I would be fascinated by her eloquence and grace as she read the news day after day and year after year! RIP Catherine Kasavuli 🙏
Wasichana weupe
Moi akumununulia nyumba but alimpea kijana handsome
Educated women dies single mothers & poor, for education can only make women proud & confused.
President Kenyattas fueneral had been planned nine years prior , and one of the reasons Moi easily outwitted his enemies is that he had gone to England nine years prior and had gone through the funeral of a head of state still in power..And when the President died Moi did a fantastic job that everyone was awed so that really helped him.
If I were you, I would start with self publishing in Amazon. The proceeds would then move me to publishing hard copy.
@@samoramwabe7906 eish, yani moi was in the freemasonry mbayaaaa… no wonder
I tend to differ a little, but when ouko died Barrack mbanja was the Nyandarua disctrict commissioner. A smart guy with well tonned atheletic body
Which part do you differ with?
Mr. Khwatenge needs our support. He is telling us the truth that was hidden from us. Quietly, many lessons to learn for personal security.
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This man is a wonderful Historian. Thanks for telling it all.
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Damn , I agree with most. This was covo came with a lot of surprises. Mwaf & Ian asanteni … The bit about TJM working with his ultimate assassin & it backfiring is something I need to look into! Great Covo!
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The bit on T.J. Mboya, having hired the same man who later bumped him off, to kill Jomo Kenyatta is but old special branch disinformation hogwash; a historical rational for assassination of Mboya by ethnic bigots. Khwatenge might have picked up the info planted on SB files by his superiors who must have been involved in that heinous deed.
Oh Lord this James has a lot of information! I mean this is a whole movie series,,,
BTW Netflix ya philit inaweza
He wasn't factual on the Mutula issue, at the time of his death he wasn't a Minister. Jubilee had just come to power and he was the new and first Senator of Makueni County. While one would say he used Viagra, it's a simplistic way to look at things. Don't forget he was in the know of the whereabouts of all I.C.C witnesses and privy to evidence the state had against the same witnesses. Plus the comments he had made prior to the elections and after the elections one can't fail in seeing the nexus to his death(killing)
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In another 40years another brave person will come up and tell us the truth about the crap between 2002 and 2027. Let's be patient guys. We might even know what happened to Musando as well as other murders.
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There is a law that allows an officer after 20yrs of retirement to talk about what happened in get,including army general. Ni vile wengi huogopa.People should thank this guy,it is a risk,when someone comes for him even those who air his stuff can be in trouble
Correction: Jomo Kenyatta's funeral protocals, procedures and orders were not created based on his health. They were inherited by Commonwealth Countries from The British Monarchy. (Watch pre Kenyatta's British & some Commonwealth Funerals.
The Kenya Armed Forces, Kenya's political structure, Education, Health, etc were mirror images of The British Government
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Tom Mboya came from a Luo family, the great grandparents immigrated to Rusinga from Asembo, the lineage is from Asembo in Siaya County.
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Very true, he is not a Suba but from Asembo
Mnapigania identify ya mkufi ka gima ichulou pthoooooooo!
kwatenge anadanganya or saying things hajui
For the young generation, Maziwa ya nyayo is not milk from Moi's farm. It was milk that used to be supplied to public schools to encourage pupils to stay in school.
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You are right apart from the stay in school part.where else would we go with our strict parents?
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From history,the Abasuba(western bantus) were assimilated to the luo culture,through different ways inc.intermarriages e.t.c
Came and went.
Very dark 😂
dark humor is also humor🤣
I hope kuna part 5 ama zingine . Document this guy's stories
Uki enda channel yake make sure ume pika kila kitu iko tayari juu chakula ita ungua u wil b glued to ur tv the whole day
😂😂😂 walai @@emmsyoung3541
Mzungu akiskia hizi stories… hii inakuwa Westwing with 5 seasons pap!
Ikr! A whole documentary
Mboya was CIA kwani nyinyi mnastuka aje? Mzee is on point!
Kenyatta as well
Hapana Pio Gama Pinto was CIA, Mboya was MI6. The British were pissed off that he was building strong ties to the USA, beginning with the Kennedy airlifts.
this guy has a lot of information
Quite insightful I must say, the Kenyatta, Njenga, Mboya conundrum is however new to me. On the Kasavuli issue I agree with him 100% because I was in the thick of things myself. Can't wait to read his book. Just a small observation though....kindly keep your interview "clean", like Okwatenge says, "you never know who is watching". Thanks
Is this the one Fred Machoka?? 😲😲
@@IkoNiniomera do you this is your podium
Dr. Ouko’s story still sends chills down my spine, unforgettable and unforgivable. He was and still is one of the best.
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I also watched so disturbing it was such a sad...act eiih
The Ouko story is sad, that said, I don't understand what was/is exceptional about him, he wasn't a thinker or revolutionary, he was a company guy who was very pro status quo...unless of. course there's something you know I don't know.
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The main road in Nakuru is Kenyatta Avenue. George Murara is a road to Afraha stadium from Posta in Nakuru. But it’s not the main road.
very interesting episodes of JAMES KHWATENGE. IKO NINI 👍🏾
The history exhibit by the veteran is utterly impressive,i have learned alot🙏
According to the Luo custom mtoto wa inje male cannot b burried in that homestead where he has grown up in and if he’s burried his grave would not be as deep as the other graves in that homestead it wil b a shallow grave that would make u wonder if this body starts decaying 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️so even if Ouko was a Tiriki he had to b burried elsewhere or shallow grave
iko nini...hii episode imekua very intresting
Iko nini!! Kana we get the full uncut interview as members? ,🙏🙏☺️☺️
Mr. James is so eloquent wow and so interesting to listen to!!!
Generally politics is a dirty game, even majority of thhe so called good politicians who do good for the people have to play dirty to get to that position.
The government should get this guy and others and make them write us history books.
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As a former police officer my Blood brother James khwatenge, unajua siri ya serikali haitolewi nje
You are an excellent attention seeker of the highest grade
There's no way you'll convince me that gava haijapeana okey hii content to be released..No Way!! the so called dynastic families are being devoured completely..My take!
Very true
Tom Mboya's father, Leonadus Ndiege was from Asembo in Siaya, but settled in Rusinga island. Mboya was NOT a Suba!
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Thanks for the history so amazing for youths of today 🎉🎉❤
Mr.Khwatenge, need to study Luo history and migration.Subas came as Bantus, but intermarried,intermingled and got assimilated, only the name remains but you can’t divide a Suba from a Luo, Moi tried for political reasons but failed.The people James are mentioning, had their lineage in Luos .Luo is an umbrella name for different sub groups. Luo Abasuba became recognized as a subgroup within the Luo community..
Kwatenge is driven by sour graves.failed aspirations and regrettable living standards
Hallow sir, can you comment on the allegation that Ouko did not return with Moi from the US trip as testified by Barack his brother before the Gor Sungu Commission and that his plane arrived almost at the same time as that of Moi and Biwot creating an impression that they had indeed returned together. Also,was Ouko's security and passport withdrawned at the aiport and was he orded to go home as alleged? Some reports also claim that Dr Ouko was picked from his home by Biwot, Oyugi and Anguka plus 3 civilian assassins whom Michael Owiti the civilian Nyanza PC driver had picked, can you confirm these. The white Mercedes Benz that belonged to Nyanza PC is what Selina vividly remembered, did you ever interrogate it's driver, Michael Owiti.
He has already confirmed it was true in his own video I watched on Facebook.
But what problems do people have with Subas being Bantu? Its clear in History that Subas came from the royal family of Baganda Kingdom after there was a coup that saw killing of the King Junju in the late 1770s. They then escaped via Lake Victora and settled in the Rusinga and Mfangano islands. They also went Mainland in the Mbita and Gwassi Hills area. Some sections settled in the Migori area. But of course, Luos had already settled around the Lake Victoria region. And so they intermarried with the Luos and stayed there peacefully to date, assimilated, though not fully. There are also Suba clans in Luhyaland and amongst Kisiis, according to some people.
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The same way they have an issue with saying Raila is from luhya lineage. Sakwa from Wangas that came from buganda 😂
But Peter Okondo was implicated in Bishop Muge's death
Kenyan dark history well explained, big up Iko nini
Honestly how does the old man vividly remember these i think he is just a good story teller
Some people have great memories
He is/was a SOLDIER 🪖. THAT'S THE NATURE OF POLICE MEN
Iko kwa damu ...yao
@@masichachris793 I will tell you one thing kitambo ilikuwa GHC iko kwa damu yake .
There is an over 70 year professor that comes in one program. He vividly remembers things over 50 years ago and he makes me wonder how 😂
Just chilling stories OMG! I was young but I remember on the late Rev. Alexander Muge, Minister Peter Okondo was also involved. He allegedly told the late Muge, "...you will not leave busia alive..." and it came to pass that he died after attending an event there as he headed back to Eldoret. Very shocking death then, it shook the nation.
Tricky times
was is not a just a bad coincidence jameni
😂he came and went...hii ilipita wengi
One outstanding revelation is the intriguing Tom mboya plan to have Mzee jomo Kenyatta killed by one Jenga and how the hiring killed Mboya after delaying for a while and not killing Mzee.
Just propaganda , don’t believe his nonsense
How comes he knows all this and he can divulge state secrets , all this are state propaganda
Tom Mboya's father was a Luo who migrated from Asembo Siaya to Rusinga island he's not a Suba by birth.
Misinformation, Tom was Suba, and Suba are bantus from Uganda. Subas are also known as Abakunta
Kasavuli's son and Gideon Moi fell from the same tree.
Kwatenge... i like your insights into history but I disagree with your assertion that Jomo was sickly by 1969 when Mboya was killed. I don't think Mboya was plotting to take out Jomo
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This is informative.
We have whitewashed our history as country. This guy is brave.
Allan: ....and the bag of money?😂
Big up iko nini.
Kwatenga tell us about yourself and your contribution to improve Kenya.You talk about the dead who can't verify what you tell us.Tell us about yourself.
He said he was a cop,and He didn't like the way the government was doing...
And its Kwatenge not kwatenga..
miriam 😊😊
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And you miriammwangi talk to us about yourself
@@chrpmaginaatsyaya3888 Thanks for wishing to know about me.Am a believer in fairness and am usually pleased off when someone talking hours on end analysing the failures of the deceased people who cannot defend themselves. So l prefer people to discuss how they worked to cub the atrocities that were going on because we hear about what transpigred but we are not in a position to change what went wrong because those you are discussing are long departed.
Get permission from their relatives before you become mouthy about them all day long.
@@chrpmaginaatsyaya3888 Okey,about myself l hate guys discussing the departed and l hate those who spend time analysing others especially the dead.Thats all about myself.
What i know mutula kilonzo was killed by those who was conserned by ICC case but not viagra anymore!.
You is well informed thank you sir and the host
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True.Having had it long time ago abasuba & abakuria & abagusii, abajita,abasweta,abamaragoli,abanyangore all from the same grand father.
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I remember the day the OTC Bus to Mombasa was Bombed like yesterday. It was on a Saturday and there was a Harambee Function to Raise Money at the Kenya Polytechnic Main Hall and the Live Band in attendance was led by George Ramogi. The Bomb was Detonated when we were Busy Dancing and the Report we received was that nobody goes to town because there is an Attempt to Overthrow the government which was not true.
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Katonda is God in Luganda. It literally means "He who makes all" .
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More accurately, it means "the Creator."
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We think we understand politics of the country but kumbe we only see what they want us to see
aki ya nani😢
Kwhatenge has a lot knowledge
It seems he is telling us just what media told us😅
Naenda kununua madawa kwa chemistry..lol
I was in mount Elgon and they say Watachoni are their relatives. Ta choni in sabaot language means, I shall come!
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The host,learn to be silent,let him narate his story
Keep the khwatenge episodes coming💪🔥....#Iko Nini🔥
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the best this guy can do is get a good writer and write a book -
Alijaribu wamekataa
4:49 Ian anasuppress that she came joke...we all know what was coming and that is how funny we been in this biatch...we know the pun is coming but dude read the room 😂😂😂😂
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He's giving Katt Williams 😂😂. No direspect to him. I watched the Katt interview and he told us alot that is hidden in their industry
The AI of Kenyan politics, gaademit
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Mwaf uko na ufala ''At lest he came and went'' hehe mzae haja shika
Hahaha!
Mr Khwatenge should write a book he has alot to tell..iko nini
He has already written the book, ni publisher na finances anatafuta tuu.
This is a book already
The book is already out... editing going on...
I believe the reason Kenyatta's dead was predicted by British is coz of what he got involved with in religion,
He already wrote the book. It is called OHACE... obviously no one wants to publish it.
Mbona hii part 4 imesonga the most mwaf
It was too short to be broken down into 2
Atleast this information is recorded on UA-cam
I find your narrative quite credible! Wow!
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Wanyoike Thungu was from my neighborhood.....one of the most wealthy people in my area😢😢
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Your point???
Atleast he came and went😂😂😂😂hio ilipita the Old man na Punster wetu😂😂
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Mzae hakushika hio kabisa😂😂
He Came and went sio? 😂 That was dark Mwaf.
@7:00 'Thanks we know he came and went'
A very funny pun.
Saw it too 🤣 @ikonini
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But Eugene reffered to kijana as 'my brother father' during his burial
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Officially sanctioned gossip. History being rewritten by one man. Misinformation + Gossip + Intrigues = Sweetness.
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By grandmaster monking
He came and went 😂
7:00....At least we know we "came and went"... How did people miss that 😂😂?
×1.25 is the solution for Mr Khwatenge
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I did it at ☓1.5
We need history like this
I can hear some distinct bird’s call at the back , which birds are those?
We live in the leafy suburbs
Me to and since nitoke eastlando ndio nikajua I have an ear for birds call. I can hear them and they get my attention, if am not so wrong hizi sounds like hornbill. Great show siku zote.
@@IkoNini 😂
😀😀Wangeuliza Ian ali graduate ECDE lini, Bwana James vile anakumbuka dates jamani, ni noma,😂
The 35 yrs law was for the previous constitution now you can become the president when you attain 18 yrs
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I would like to hear the story of our own brother tonny ndilinge
Best interview in 2023
Nilijua part 4 haingekosa
Yes Suba has their languare but most of the time or all the time they speak Luo.its like a forgotten language.
Good job, iko nini
Where is the respect for Kasavuli in this. I'd expect young people to be chasing this kind of klaut
Am a Tachooni but I had never known that am not a Luhya.....
I wonder why some people here keeps correcting him..kwani stori ni yako ama ni yake😂😂😂wee skia na unyamase
The interviewer can improve on interview preparation to ensure a seamless and cohesive flow of the story from the interviewee.
How on earth can one know the answer to every question..?? Hapana !!! Hiyo inaitwa ujuwaji???
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Atleast we know that he came and went... I see what you did there bro😂😂😂😂😂😂
Respect mwafff you inspire me
We really want to know what role he played too.....
The Tom Mboya family are Luos who migrated from Asembo Siaya. Khwatenge do more research
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