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The Vinyl Review Episode 1: Beatles for Sale
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2022
- By the end of 1964, The Beatles were exhausted and still working eight days a week at the behest of their management and their record label(s) both in the UK and the USA. They were squeezing in recording sessions in-between tours of the United States and the rest of the world, all the while filming a movie and making television and radio appearances several times per month. No one really knew at this point how long they were going to last or whether they were just a passing fad that people would forget in a couple of years. Back then, it was thought that if a musical group didn't have a new album out every 5 or 6 months, then they would fade from the spotlight quickly. No one really knew how to manage an act that was a worldwide phenomenon like they had become so quickly. The Beatles were the biggest band in the world by the end of 1964, but the creative well was beginning to run dry because they just simply didn't have enough time to sit down and write more songs. So they had to dip way down into the well and pull out some music they had already been familiar with, and could record easily and quickly, but they had also clearly outgrown by that point in their careers. It was ultimately to culminate in an album that had flashes of brilliance and signs of future promise, but that was also terribly uneven.
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Hi Billy, I want to let you know that this was spot on. I was lucky enough to grow up with this Beatles for my soundtrack; in 1964 I was 10 yrs old; how perfect for a dorky, chubby little girl on the south side of Chicago. This band caused a huge metamorphosis in me and 3 yrs later I was playing guitar, singing and turned into a music, fashion, film and general artist across genres. Wow, I am so grateful for them; my parents were such squares, but with taste and class, altho middle class. The power of music, huh? Amazing that sound can change a life. Their best work as a band or individuals are still fave treasures. I do love some very early stuff; can' t even explain why but joy. I look so forward to your next video, as I know your taste is fabulous.
I found you while looking thru Laurel Canyon, as I'll be visiting LA
in July for medical reasons...so after that, we're gonna make good memories and mini vacay outta the trip. I ended up moving to NorCak 7 yrs ago from Chicago and have totally fallen in love with California!
So much history.
Thx for your beautiful work and your music in the Laurel Canyon series...it was lovely to see it on film and you had all your facts and details perfect. You are a nice distraction for me to listen to and/ or watch when I need that...which is often, lol! ( don't sleep much) . So thx for your beautiful work and presentation, which you have a great way of putting across. Wishing you much success with your channel; you deserve it. Peace and love to you and all here.
Hey Roxanne. I think I'm going to pin your comments to the top of the list because they were just so nice and very personal. Thank you so much for sharing all of that with the rest of us. Totally awesome. And have fun in Laurel Canyon. Good luck finding anywhere to park though. LOL!
Billy, I think your take on this is dead on. I'm 67 and I've been a diehard Beatles fan from day one. I think they are the most innovative, most creative band ever. And although I've always loved their original songs, I have to admit that I mostly just tolerated their covers. There's an interview with Felix Cavaliere of the Rascals, where he was talking about seeing the Beatles for the first time. He said when they covered American rock n roll, "they weren't going to scare anybody". But when they performed their original songs there was an undeniable magic. That's when they stood out head and shoulders above everyone else. I think that summed it up pretty well.
Well that was also about the best I've heard this described in any comments as well. Very eloquently stated and also appreciated. Love the quote from the guy in the Rascals. Anybody who is a true Beatles fan will be able to point out their strengths and weaknesses. They were totally great but it took work for them to get there.
I still have vinyls.....nothing like the sound of them.
Excellent music choice....The Beatles are in my opinion the best band ever! I like the way you give context to the album.
Thanks!
I could do an entire series just on them alone. So much info!
Just finished your Laurel Canyon series… loved it and your storytelling style! Looking forward to your vinyl reviews. You hit the nail in the head with “Beatles For Sale”! Long time Beatlefan here… keep up the good work! Certainly appreciated!!
Awesome! Thank you!
Love this vinyl series as much as the Laurel canyon series. I was born in January of 1965 so my Beatles experience could be considered second generation fan. My older siblings who were born in the 40’s and 50’s made sure I heard this band from birth so I feel like a first generation fan of the band. So much good music but I agree with your grading and review of Beatles for sale. My personal favorite song by the Beatles is “Things we said” from a Hard days night. Perhaps my favorite album as well, even though the band created so much great music, thanks Billy this is a lot of fun and educational as well.🎶
Thanks again! Yes, we also had The Beatles going in our house several times a week. My earliest musical memories were Rubber Soul and Sgt. Pepper's albums. Along with a lot of Dylan and Joan Baez.
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Beatles for Sale to me is underrated in the Beatles' body of work because of the cover songs. The originals, however, have a new musical sophistication and emotional power. There's real urgency and eclecticism in "No Reply", "I'm a Loser," "Baby's in Black", "I'll Follow the Sun", "Every Little Thing" & "What You're Doing." Before Dylan & the Byrds, the Beatles were combining folk with rock.
Feb 9 1964............ my Mom made my Father hurry home while out in the car to see that Beatles TV broadcast. I watched it, and I still remember it too. My Mom routinely had the Beatles, Beach Boys, Simon and Garfunkel, Johnny Cash and the Doors spinning on the turn table in my childhood home.
Sounds like you grew up in a pretty cool house. We had Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, and the middle-period Beatles (Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Pepper's, etc.) going in our living room quite often.
@@memoryfield When you are a child sometimes you perceive your parents as hard on you, maybe not so cool. Mine def. were not parents that behave like your friends, they could be very tough too. I am glad for that. Mom forced me to learn the piano and I was pissed about it!! You gotta laugh and appreciate being able to look back with different lens. Thanks for commenting back.
Thanks Billy I'd hang out with you in a heartbeat if I ever came out to Los Angeles to cruise by some historical places. Laurel canyon, etc.
To me you are such a articulate human being, i just love Listen to. Greetings from Germany. I met Klaus Voormann 2 days ago for a second time at his atelier near Starnberg Lake and got my Revolver and A Sidemans Journey LPs signed. He is such a lovely guy. Peace.
Thanks for watching and for your kind words. Nice to hear you got to meet Klaus. Great musician!
Good review. My older sister bought that LP and I could hear her play it in her bedroom over and over and over again. LOL
Yeah, I didn't have any older siblings, but my parents had this one and ALL the other Beatles records as well. Thanks for watching!
Awesome job my friend, of deconstructing this album, Beatles For Sale.
This bodes well for everything else on your list. Cannot wait 👍🤸🎸
Many thanks!
Baby’s In Black is such an underrated song, in my humble opinion.
Nice harmonies in that one!
John and Paul's harmonies are spot on, my favorite early Beatles track!
My favorite is Sgt. Peppers and the White album. Glad to see your new post.
Good choices. All of those are coming at some point in the future. So many great albums to talk about from this era!
Great, nice one Billy! I have most of the albums I'm pleased to say. Many thanks
Nothing beats vinyl from this era! Thanks for watching. :)
Very well done. It was told in a manner that keeps you captivated from beginning to end. Looking forward to the next one. Cheers
Thank you very much! Glad you found us here.
stick with it, and they will come these are great !!!!!
Hi Billy and the team,
It seems to me that the United States has a musical history that is not so much theorized in books. At the beginning of the 20th century, styles that allowed musicians to maintain a classical approach were found in folk, country, blues, jazz...2many musicians used them throughout the 20th century. When young people started a parallel culture in the 1950s, there were two possibilities, either a somewhat military and virile approach like rock music, or something that goes against the culture and its demands. Pete Seeger has taken care of this by developing specialized folk lessons for individuals who are somewhat on the fringes of the dominant Anglo-Saxon culture. I suppose that classical music comes from traditional music and that classical can serve as a gateway to a return to traditional. Folk is imbued with classical movements. From the beginning of the 1960s, traditionalist musicians were the great novelty in the West: this is called world-music. Bob Dylan does traditional Jewish music as well as Lou Reed, Paul Simon does Christian conversion, Jerry Garcia does Spanish. In the history of music, it has been demonstrated that the traditional is made of pagan and sacred and that the classic is superimposed on the traditional. The Beatles, wanting to build a parallel cultural network in Great Britain, had something new. They had both examples in front of them on their 1964 tour: the gruff rock of Elvis and the smart music of Bob. They chose this one over Rubber Soul: a creed style that goes all the way to Abbey Road recordings. The great musical revolution of the 1960s is the return to the traditional of the people in mainstream form. Rubber Soul paved the way to the mainstream with stereophonic which definitely developed the musical visualization that the mainstream is looking for.
Good choice Billy, I'm certain I'm going to love this series as much as I did your Laurel Canyon documentaries 🤸
Thank you from me in Merseyside, United Kingdom 😁
Oh my, you're right there where at all began! Can you believe what they did with the old Cavern Club site! Thanks for being here and thank you so much for your comments.
@@memoryfield Demolished it, and built a replica,next to it!
Yes I can believe it 😂 🤦
Me and me Mum popped in for a drink, the other Summer 😁👍
Take care Billy, I'm so looking forward to the next album, Simon, a friend in Merseyside.
I know what you're saying Billy but ill still give Mr moonlight a thumbs up because it's the Beatles. A friendly happy tune
I remember the "The Beatles '65" album which I liked A LOT even at the ripe old age of 9. It was the third Beatles's record I got. I think I got it as a Birthday present. Some songs from "Beatles's for Sale" were included on that one. Apparently there were songs that didn't make it to the "Capitol" label and their North American releases. I still love their version of "Honey Don't"...after all these years.
It's hard not to just love them for everything they did (except some of the stuff on the White Album...) but I also hold them to a higher standard than I do other bands that didn't have access to George Martin/EMI/Abbey Road Studios, etc. Funny thing, Beatles For Sale wasn't even "officially" released in the USA in that same version until 1987! So many Americans weren't even familiar with all of the songs on this release until that time. You could get it as an import, but you had to pay more for it.
The single "I Feel Fine" / "She's A Woman" was recorded in the same sessions and if they were on Beatles For Sale instead of say, Mister Moonlight and Everybody's Trying to Be My Baby, then it would have been a much stronger album.
Or "Leave My Kitten Alone" was actually said to have been a bit stronger than even Mr. Moonlight. It was recorded and then completely left out of everything. It surfaced many years later on some kind of a compilation album of studio outtakes.
Im only halfway into this video and am already enthralled. Love how you are giving us historical perspective instead of merely reviewing the songs. And being a diehard Apple Scruff, this is right up my alley ( I opted to watch you instead of turning on my radio to " Breakfast With The Beatles" as I usually do on Sunday mornings). Lastly, where did you find those miniature guitars & drum kit? You have the coolest "toys" (am also drooling over the Yellow Submarine figures I saw in a previous video). Looking forward to more videos in this series on other albums!
Thanks, Stephanie, for your very nice comments. I find pretty much everything in one way or another on eBay. My wife thinks all of it is silly and a waste of money, LOL.
@@memoryfield not silly!!! I would love to have those items and it's all a part of your memorabilia collection like the posters. 👍
Now I have Mr. Moonlight stuck in my head. Thanks a lot Billy. But seriously, I generally agree with your assessment of this album. But I do love the originals and no Beatles collection would be complete without the album. I love the harmonies in No Reply and the rest of the originals are classic in my book. …I’ll confess I always preferred their version of Rock and Roll Music.
I guess I was thinking of "I'll Be Back" with my harmonies remark about "No Reply". Wrong album.
Wonderful review here and look forward to seeing more. Yes, although Beatles For Sale does have its flaws, and many at that. its still a fun listen. John and Paul's songwriting craft was certainly getting sharper, and only a few months later, in 1965, would they record "rock" music that would change the world, and last the ages. Bless 'em! 💌
I think we can agree on all of that. They were on the verge of greatness here, but just not quite there yet. So glad they were able to do all that they did. Thanks!
Thank you for the first very honest review of this album & the background surrounding it !!!! So many people are willing to slam this album - saying their songwriting dropped off etc. You got it right by saying the original material was strong but the covers let it down. And i agree. Four of the six covers do let it down. But to me, the album is still better than "A Hard Days Night". I always group the 1st three albums together. But with "For Sale" they branched out lyrically & musically. They put their OWN BRAND of rockabilly on this LP. And whilst "Eight Days A Week" lyrically is no progression, the inspired arrangement & ideas lift the song to great heights. I rate all of the originals very highly. BUT, the album could've been so much better if the silly record company had included "She's A Woman", "I Feel Fine" & "Leave My Kitten Alone" - at the expense of "Mr. Moonlight", "Honey Don't" & "Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby" !!!! Open the album with "She's A Woman" - a great advancement on their earlier material.
Sounds like you know a ton about this album already. Not sure if I shed any additional light on any of it, but yeah, it's not Rubber Soul but it's about a light year ahead of the first three for sure. And that's a normal progression, right? They didn't peak right out of the gate. That would have made no sense at all. Thanks for your comments!
I don't think you shed any additional light - just a VERY honest review. I still think a couple of the covers here are stronger than 3 or 4 of Lennon's very mediocre songs on the previous LP.
I've literally just started on your vinyl reviews , Billy, after being transfixed with Laurel Canyon. I've never specifically heard all the songs from this album, but I've got to admit that I wasn't the biggest Beatle fan. If you can, Billy, listen to "All or Nothing", and "Tin Soldier", sung by the Small Faces. I liked them as much as the Beatles. PP Arnold sung on the tin Soldier track. Enjoy.
Hey, that's a band that will surely come up in the review at some point!
House Of The Rising Sun was recorded in one take. Wow now that’s a nice piece of history
Quite astounding, yes!
GREAT review Billy! Having been born in America, I'm still biased by the ORIGINAL Capitol Beatle albums! I've collected quite a Beatles original vinyl collection the past 25 years or so, and I do prefer the Capitol releases over the British ones ( Which I also own ) Beatles for Sale = Beatles 65 & Beatles 6. And in America, both the later were HUGE in this country as separate albums. And to me ( if you don't mind my thoughts here ) you can divide the Beatles career into FOUR different phases. Ready? The ROCK & ROLL Beatles 63- late 64 / The FOLK ROCK Beatles Late 64-Late 65 / The PSYCHEDELIC BEATLES 66-67 / The HIPPIE Beatles 68-69. Beatles For Sale really covered the second phase, The Folk Rock Beatles to me. Also added to this was ''HELP'' and their masterpiece ''Rubber Soul'' ending that period. Just my take on the FABS
Hi Danny. I agree with those time periods and that's a great way of looking at their careers. About all I would add is that by the time they got to the White Album, I always think of those last four as The SOLO Beatles, as all of them seemed to be writing and working separately from one another at that point. Poor Ringo. He just wanted to play the drums while Paul and John hated on each other, and George sat frustrated when his songs got rejected.
@@memoryfield Well put Billy! I've collected the Beatles for the past 25 years, TONS of original vinyl, fan magazines, dolls, bubblegum cards, etc. ( YES...I own an original stereo BUTCHER album!!) I was 5 when the Beatles hit America ( nuff said bout that ) Early in the morning, sometimes before rising, I will review their career & try to figure out the EVOLUTION of their incredible experience as the greatest R&R band of all time. ( Stones fans WILL dispute that too! ) And my theory is the best I could figure! All I know is THANK GOD I was alive to have seen the Beatles! Peace.......
@@memoryfield P.S.--If you got to watch ''GET BACK'', what struck me most was watching George STANDING UP for his opinion through out the filming, and actually QUITTING the group in mid stream! Amazzzing to watch
I don't care what anyone says I don't think, I know that vinyl sounds better than all other formats. I challenge anyone to blind fold me and I will pick out the vinyl everypa time. I was very lucky to have a older brother with a good job and a expensive Panasonic stereo which was the best around 1970 and a huge record collection. He bought albums as soon as they were released. Augu lung, Layla Johnny and edger winter just to name a few of my favorites.
There is a very subtle quality of surface noise and white noise inherent to analog recordings (vs. complete sterile silence in a digital recording) that is actually shown to have a calming effect on a listener even when the noise level is basically imperceptible. The listener receives a shot of the neurotransmitter Dopamine to the brain while listening to analog recordings that is not nearly as strong while listening to purely digital recordings. Most people aren't able to explain why they feel more nostalgic while listening to vinyl records, but this theory might have something to do with it. Not the whole story, obviously, but something interesting to think about anyway. :)
@@memoryfield to me vinyl sounds more like live music.
Does it not seem strange that considering Lennon/McCartney wrote approximately 100 songs as teens that they would have 6 cover songs on Beatles For Sale? And they don't put One After 909 on the album.
It doesn't make sense.
I have most of the U.S. albums on vinyl and most of the British albums on CD. Clever record companies. The first three songs on the album really get it going and then it bogs down a bit with those covers. Some of them are kinda lame, but I still enjoy Honey Don't and John's singing on Rock and Roll Music.
Yeah, the only one that's really kind of "bad" is Mr. Moonlight and second to that is Kansas City/Hey Hey Hey Hey. But yeah, it just seems like they were in a hurry to get this one done and they were under a tight deadline. So much potential for more greatness to come, though. You can hear it.
@@memoryfield I have to confess I like the Kansas City medley. Pauly puts it across with his youthful enthusiasm. But yeah, Mr. Moonlight is pretty pathetic. Sounds like a band playing the local Holiday Inn. Not exactly the top of the toppermost.
Agreed. Okay, maybe Kansas City was a little better than Honey Don't. "Ah, Rock on George for Ringo one time!" LOL.
I agree with a C.
I think I heard some discredit to Honey Don't and Rock and Roll Music, you are a very bad fellow. Lol. I actually really dig those songs. Every Little thing is one of their best and I'll follow the Sun as well.
The album certainly has some highlights, but the best is yet to come from them on this series. Thanks for watching!
As far as i'm concerned the Beatles didn't really become a good band until the album Revolver and Rubber Soul. Before that they were no better or worse than anybody else. But to this day i've never heard the album Beatles for Sale so maybe it's got some good stuff. Like to hear it but not about to pay to do so anymore.
There's definitely a country tinge to "I'm a Loser". ... especially in the middle 8 and George Harrison's solo. BTW, the Beatles' covers of Holly's "Words of Love" and Chuck Berry's "Rock and Roll Music" are heads and tails better (as well as much cleaner) than the originals. "I Don't Want To Spoil The Party" could be their most underrated tune.
Yeah, I'll go with you on "country tinge". If you were to remove and/or change Harrison's guitar work on that song then you probably wouldn't even have the tinge. That song has always reminded me somewhat of Johnny Cash in his mid-60's kind of phase. Cash was always too much of a rebel to be completely Country.
Beatles 'Second Album' had some unfortunately not real good ones. Like 'Devil in her Heart'.
I have a red album(over/about 40years old) and some other collections incase anyone's interested