The Beatles - Now and Then [George's Isolated Guitar]

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  • @isolatedstems
    @isolatedstems  2 місяці тому +2

    Check out the full isolated tracks with an improved guitar isolation: ua-cam.com/video/8C495NpLyuU/v-deo.html

  • @RoidoFoja
    @RoidoFoja 8 місяців тому +88

    You have no idea how much I searched for George's clue, you are undoubtedly a hero. 👍

  • @oxxxxochannel
    @oxxxxochannel 7 місяців тому +71

    This should’ve been louder in the final mix

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  7 місяців тому +27

      A lot of it get's lost in the string lines which mimic it, so I think they might've used this part as inspiration when composing the strings.

    • @johnmccloskey5246
      @johnmccloskey5246 5 місяців тому +25

      Yes Giles Martin said that when they were doing the strings Paul told him to listen to what George was doing on guitar and produce the strings that way. So it's great to know how much George contributed to the structure of the song.

    • @Dearwatson-tt5wz
      @Dearwatson-tt5wz 5 місяців тому +14

      Yeah great point, I love the respect Paul has for George and it shows here to the point where George's guitar is pivotal to the whole ambiance of the finished product.

    • @johnmccloskey5246
      @johnmccloskey5246 5 місяців тому +4

      @@Dearwatson-tt5wz Exactly. Thanks for your comment.

  • @sarveshbane1609
    @sarveshbane1609 9 місяців тому +76

    Man we never would've been able to hear this, its really buried in the mix, BIG THANK YOU MAN❤❤

    • @Sonnell
      @Sonnell 3 місяці тому +7

      yeah... sad how buried it is. I would love to remix the song, it was poorly done.

    • @AllofJudea
      @AllofJudea 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Sonnelldon't worry, they'll re do it like they do every 20 years

    • @scuffedcovers
      @scuffedcovers 3 місяці тому

      @@AllofJudea it will probably be a crappy remix if that every happens, like 2023 mix of Hey Bulldog

    • @ranjandas481
      @ranjandas481 2 місяці тому

      ​@@scuffedcovers the released version is quite good

  • @A1-Pacific_Sketcher
    @A1-Pacific_Sketcher 6 місяців тому +85

    Interesting that he still *technically* played during the so-called "solo", he just wasn't the lead. Great job isolating his guitar parts, wonderful to hear them so clearly!

  • @underbakedmoose
    @underbakedmoose 9 місяців тому +43

    man, i would kill to have a tab written out for this so i could play it for myself. unfortunately, i haven't got the slightest clue how to transpose by ear.
    i love the sound he brought. too bad this is the only real way to hear his entire contribution. i would've never known he had recorded this had you not isolated the track. thanks so much.

    • @MrRandyFlaggTDM
      @MrRandyFlaggTDM 7 місяців тому +3

      this one isn't hard. especially isolated like this. give it a shot!

    • @riogrande163
      @riogrande163 5 місяців тому +3

      im a few months late, but you might have luck with some youtube covers so you can visually learn!

    • @timtyler8822
      @timtyler8822 3 місяці тому

      Transcribe

    • @SnapeGaveMeDetention
      @SnapeGaveMeDetention 16 днів тому

      Me too!

  • @marcoquinonez352
    @marcoquinonez352 2 місяці тому +7

    You don’t know how much I appreciate you doing this! When I first heard “Now and Then” the first thing I thought of was, musically of course, where’s George? I really got upset with the fact that his guitar work is buried so deep, that if you didn’t know any better, you would say it was left out completely. Keep up the AMAZING work!

  • @remtiw
    @remtiw 4 місяці тому +70

    It's a shame George's guitar isn't more present in the final mix. It's not like it's his finest guitar work or anything but the fact that he's trying to provide a shuffle beat on the electric guitar actually helps give the rhythm more kick and would've made the song just a smidge more "up" rather than the kinda dour dirge it came out as. Which I get was likely Paul's decision, he wanted the song to have more gravitas and heft than "Free as a Bird" or "Real Love" but it also illustrates why sometimes you need a George Harrison in the room to be the lone voice willing to challenge Paul's decisions.

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  4 місяці тому +15

      I think a lot of the rhythmic energy present in this part was transferred to the strings. I think it's more of a mix problem as the whole mix is a little too compressed and doesn't give a lot of breathing room to the instruments even the bass is a little buried. Like the mixes of Real Love and Free as a Bird really allow the instruments to breath so you can hear all the elements even though there are more instruments present. Although Paul probably approved of the mix I'm not sure how involved he was in the mixing decisions. It might have been more in the hands of Giles, but who knows.

    • @Sonnell
      @Sonnell 3 місяці тому +1

      @@isolatedstems You mean the new mixes of Real Love and Free as a Bird from 2023?

    • @berfisen
      @berfisen 3 місяці тому

      @@Sonnell there are new mixes??

    • @Sonnell
      @Sonnell 3 місяці тому +1

      @@berfisen Yes, Giles Martin did them, even the wikipedia article for free as a bird mentioned it. But there are no true official releases for it. But I heard them somewhere, and sounded a lot cleaner.

    • @berfisen
      @berfisen 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Sonnell Oh wow you're right! Just remembered I'd heard about that somewhere. The new mixes are the ones used for the music videos apparently. Shame that they aren't available for streaming, but I'll probably just download them and use "local files". Thanks for letting me know 👍

  • @L0REN0R2Z0RR0
    @L0REN0R2Z0RR0 3 місяці тому +42

    Cool to hear that the indianesque ending had already been thought of in the nineties

    • @AllofJudea
      @AllofJudea 3 місяці тому

      What?

    • @L0REN0R2Z0RR0
      @L0REN0R2Z0RR0 3 місяці тому +6

      @@AllofJudea The rhythm changes for the final chords in the song. Apparently George already played it like that during the original sessions ('95)?

  • @GregoryKeithe
    @GregoryKeithe 8 місяців тому +15

    Thank you so much!
    I'm sure this was extremely difficult to capture.
    This is now my favourite part of the song❤💯

  • @jamesbaluarte3
    @jamesbaluarte3 7 місяців тому +101

    The guitar must be really be buried because aside from a few licks I could not hear anything else.

    • @beatlegiancarlo28
      @beatlegiancarlo28 7 місяців тому +21

      The mix was not very clear. If it can be remixed with louder Macca vocals on the verses, more George guitars and more defined bass, it would be awesome.

    • @PC4USE1
      @PC4USE1 5 місяців тому +19

      @@beatlegiancarlo28 with louder 1994 vocals,IMHO. I love Paul and he is a genius but his present voice does not compare to previous years. Age has taken such a toll. His playing,composing and musicality is still intact.This is not his fault,even Sinatra and the other greats of the past lost that quality in their voice in older age.

    • @L0REN0R2Z0RR0
      @L0REN0R2Z0RR0 3 місяці тому +5

      @@PC4USE1 well, he screamed his lungs out for decades (I'm Down, Helter Skelter), so it's kinda his fault as well :D

    • @terragthegreat175
      @terragthegreat175 3 місяці тому +7

      ​@L0REN0R2Z0RR0 it was worth it for Monkberry Moon Delight

    • @PC4USE1
      @PC4USE1 3 місяці тому +3

      @@L0REN0R2Z0RR0 Cannabis and cigarettes didn't help,either.

  • @halfgermanantony
    @halfgermanantony 3 місяці тому +13

    Thanks for sharing. I just had watched a video yesterday that barely mentions George playing on the song. I knew he was on there, but now know why. Wouldn't have guessed this is what he played.

  • @sallykohorst8803
    @sallykohorst8803 3 місяці тому +12

    Amazing guitar from George in 1995. We all miss you!

  • @pablos.alonso7711
    @pablos.alonso7711 3 місяці тому +10

    THIS IS BLOODY INTERESTING. I always, by listening to the final production, heard this part entering when the verse transitions into the chorus, but I never noticed it during Paul's lap steel solo. The solo uses (modulating it) part of the harmony of the omitted "I don't want to lose you..." bridge. So, unless they sampled George chords and changed its peach, this may implies that Paul had already excised John's bridge (controversial, but I think they should have keepped) way back in '95.

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  3 місяці тому +5

      You can see on this lyric sheet that Jeff Lynne and Mac Mann marked up here: www.jefflynnesongs.com/NowAndThenTapeLyricSheet.jpg that the structure of the song had most likely been decided back in 95. With the first verse also being the 4th with the other choruses and verses also lining up. The bridge is circled so what may have occurred is either one they always intended the bridge to be a solo section as that does follow the formula of the other two reunion songs, or two if given more time they would've completed the bridge and filled in the lyrics. But because Paul's voice is rough now they decided to turn it into a solo section. That decision was definitely made in 1995 as the acoustic guitars and George's guitar do follow the structure and I'm positive that they weren't manipulated. The only thing they did in 2022 is record new instruments to add to what was done in 95.

  • @ericnear4273
    @ericnear4273 3 місяці тому +5

    His rhythm guitar is in a similar style to how he played on Free As A Bird, if you listen closely. Also, the quiet uke part at the end of Real Love.

  • @petermcgarrymusicandflying
    @petermcgarrymusicandflying 8 місяців тому +19

    The Hamburger Guitar - he had two made - the wine one and a green one

    • @pablos.alonso7711
      @pablos.alonso7711 3 місяці тому

      The Hamburg. He used the other for Real Love. Can't remember OTTOMH the name of the luthier.

  • @HalfEatenMedia
    @HalfEatenMedia 21 день тому +1

    It’s likely George made this up on the spot. He was that talented. RIP legend

  • @matheuskelter
    @matheuskelter 6 місяців тому +26

    There were some ridiculous youtubers who said: "Oh, I suspect that there's no George at all in this track. Oh, I'm the greatest." Get into that, MF!

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  6 місяців тому +10

      Well to be fair to them it is pretty ambiguous about who played what guitar when that song first came out. Paul was listed as playing a guitar on the official announcement on the Beatles website. That was later specified to specifically point out it was only the slide guitar. It didn't help further that George's part is buried in the song.

    • @thomaspappalardo7589
      @thomaspappalardo7589 4 місяці тому +2

      @@isolatedstems Paul also doubled the acoustic part. Jeff Lynne likes the massed acoustics.

  • @Dedsec499
    @Dedsec499 9 місяців тому +12

    Is it possible for George voice isolation in don’t let me down? If you could do all of them at different times that would be even better

  • @richard-tm9ti
    @richard-tm9ti 3 місяці тому +4

    🎼" HERE COMES GUITAR 🎸 GEORGE. HE KNOWS ALL THE CHORDS!"🎼 ❤️✌️🕉️🙏

  • @edgargonzalezperez3646
    @edgargonzalezperez3646 7 місяців тому +9

    Te felicito por el gran trabajo que hiciste, y sobre todo por esta dedicado a rescatar la guitarra de Harrison cuyo trabajo colaborativo en las canciones de los Beatles, sin duda enriqueció todas y cada una de estas. Es claro que cada nota, cada frase musical le daba otra dimensión a las composiciones de Lennon y de Mc Cartney, frases que como bien dices, solamente podía ocurrírsele a él. Estoy seguro que vas a lograr un gran trabajo aislando con mejor calidad esa inigualable guitarra que pudo tener mas protagonismo en la versión oficial de Now and Then pero que pero que no lo tuvo por estar enterrada bajo el gran ego de Paul. Saludos.

    • @PeterNash99
      @PeterNash99 7 місяців тому +5

      todo bien el comentario hasta la parte irrespetuosa hacia Paul...

    • @Jason.Brayshaw
      @Jason.Brayshaw 5 місяців тому +1

      He's totally correct. ​@@PeterNash99

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  5 місяців тому +3

      I wouldn't disrespect Paul here because it's clear that the strings used George's guitar lines as a basis for their composition. So in a way George's contribution was brought even further out of the mix and immortalized. Sure the guitar could be higher in the mix, but a lot of things got buried in the mix. I also don't think Paul had too much to do with the actual mixing of the song which was down to Giles and the crew at Abbey Road. It wasn't like he called a meeting and said "I want George's guitar buried".

  • @vincenzospena2814
    @vincenzospena2814 2 місяці тому +1

    man please, put a full version with the now isolated part enhanced. It must sound great

  • @leoguillot8381
    @leoguillot8381 8 місяців тому +11

    So the structure at the time was already the same ? The arrangement and the ending in the style of here comes the sun?

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  8 місяців тому +5

      Yeah most likely.

    • @barrilitomusic
      @barrilitomusic 4 місяці тому +2

      @@isolatedstemsyeah, after listening to this, I’ve wondered the same. It was a great surprise to know that there are two Harrison guitars in the song.

  • @joe6096
    @joe6096 3 місяці тому +4

    Anyone think George would still be telling Paul "fk it, it's rubbish" today after they were able to lift John's vocals clearly with Peter's technology?

    • @RaiseThePressure
      @RaiseThePressure 27 днів тому

      yeah, I don't think George liked the song to begin with

  • @peppe7790
    @peppe7790 7 місяців тому +9

    George si great

  • @BD12
    @BD12 3 місяці тому +10

    George CREAMING the opposition!

    • @Brannington
      @Brannington 3 місяці тому +3

      🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

    • @argvfx
      @argvfx 3 місяці тому +1

      ayo

  • @jethrojamesachivida4083
    @jethrojamesachivida4083 4 місяці тому +3

    Is there a remix of Now and Then with this stem and others more heard and evident?

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  4 місяці тому +3

      Here's a "naked" mix ua-cam.com/video/PvkuVcp9OS8/v-deo.html

  • @cb2354
    @cb2354 4 місяці тому +3

    This is awesome. Too bad this wasn’t featured more in the released version, which had too much fluff. Too bad someone decided to bury this amazing guitar track.

  • @danzeboy
    @danzeboy 4 місяці тому

    thank you so much for putting this together

  • @JordyBoothy
    @JordyBoothy 4 місяці тому

    Really insightful, thank you!

  • @manzano811
    @manzano811 3 місяці тому

    La guitarra de George parece un tono triste y melancolico, y la de Paul parece como una persona llorando 😢😢
    Tremendo homenaje a John Lennon QEPD

  • @Bruno-p4r
    @Bruno-p4r 6 місяців тому +2

    Incroyablement émue
    Folliiiiiiiie

  • @ilovemusic7748
    @ilovemusic7748 9 місяців тому +14

    I wonder how much they recorded in 1995 tbh

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  9 місяців тому +33

      According to the Linear notes that came with the Now and Then vinyl we know they recorded at least the acoustic guitars, this electric guitar, a piano and bass part which were later re-recorded, shakers, and some vocals that backed John's vocals. So the song was somewhat complete and only really needed at minimum drums and backing vocals. This makes me feel like the song was ditched mainly for technical reasons rather than musical reasons.

    • @ilovemusic7748
      @ilovemusic7748 9 місяців тому +3

      @@isolatedstemsyeah but I wonder how they got the chords to play the solo if it was non existent. I wonder if they pitched up some parts to match it and reused recording parts to go on and on like an i me mine situation

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  9 місяців тому +13

      @@ilovemusic7748 I think the structure and skeleton of the song was all completed in 95, so all they did in 2022 was add parts to what was recorded in 95 without changing any of the structure. I do wonder if the solo section was originally going to be a reworked "I don't wanna lose you section" or if it was always a solo section. It being a solo section does make sense as that does follow the structure of the other two reunion songs.

    • @thorparra6093
      @thorparra6093 8 місяців тому +3

      ​​@@isolatedstemsI wondered if Paul and George wrote verses to complement the "I Dont Want To Lose You" part.I find it very strange that that part is not in the Beatles version, since I think (I'm not sure) that John He even put that title on the cassette, so John emphasized that part of the song.Taking this into account, it seems very strange to me that this part is forgotten in the final version of the song. Sorry for my English.

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  8 місяців тому +4

      @@thorparra6093 I don't think they went far enough in the songs development to have tried to rewrite that part. From the lyric sheet seen here: www.jefflynnesongs.com/NowAndThenTapeLyricSheet.jpg you can see the songs structure didn't change. Looking how Jeff Lynne and the rest marked it up. You can see he marked some as V# and CH# which meant the verse and chorus. We can see that the marking line up with the final product. The I don't want to lose you part was circled however. I don't know where the "I Don't Want To Lose You" part would've gone. The final product is pretty much what they completed in 1995 + some more overdubs so nothing in the structure changed. The only spot that "I Don't Want To Lose You" part would've fit into is the solo section. So maybe they were going to use some of Johns lyrics and mash it up with some guitar to fill in the missing words. Who knows what they would've done though.

  • @IsaacWale2004
    @IsaacWale2004 3 місяці тому +2

    Wasn't the acoustic also George??

  • @pasternakstudios
    @pasternakstudios 2 місяці тому

    its just me but the george rythm guitar, buried in the mix, sounds so much similar to the lost bridge. I mean, maybe was do it for that purpose.

  • @barrilitomusic
    @barrilitomusic 3 місяці тому +1

    So... if that's George's guitar all through and through, this is perhaps the same arrangement they had in 1995. Too bad George didn't get to record a solo.

  • @sacha_ratm
    @sacha_ratm 9 місяців тому +6

    wow how do you do that ?

    • @coolbeans1998
      @coolbeans1998 7 місяців тому +2

      One way is a program called Ultimate Vocal Remover 5, there’s a setting for different instruments :)

    • @sacha_ratm
      @sacha_ratm 7 місяців тому +1

      @@coolbeans1998 thanks 👋👍

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  7 місяців тому +3

      It started with the 5.1 mix of the song. The guitar was slightly more audible I think on the front left channel. After I used a bunch of different instrument isolators from Lalalai and different models on Msvep. That's why the isolation is a little patchy because it was stitch together from the most audible attempts at isolating the guitar.

  • @garyjameswilson
    @garyjameswilson 3 місяці тому +3

    The slide guitar on the new version wasn't played by George, it was Paul..........

    • @davidbcalhoun
      @davidbcalhoun 3 місяці тому +2

      That’s why ghostly Paul shows up in this video during the slide part

  • @kewkabe
    @kewkabe 3 місяці тому

    I think he's just playing through with the straight chords to learn the song, which is why they kept it low in the mix. Had he worked on it longer, like a traditional Beatles song, I'm sure he would have come up with something more interesting.

    • @Weztex
      @Weztex 3 місяці тому

      That's my thoughts too. George was seemingly a ''slow crafter''. By all accounts he was putting a lot of effort and time into coming up with parts that satisfied him (much to the frustration of John and Paul sometimes). You can hear that in the numerous Let It Be solos he laid out. His parts in Free As a Bird and especially Real Love are pristine. I have no doubt they would have reached a similar level had they have been able to complete it.

  • @batmanhelpingspider-man2342
    @batmanhelpingspider-man2342 2 місяці тому +4

    Paul must hate George’s playing… In the last few years of The Beatles, George often got drowned out by the production or by the instruments the other Beatles were playing. In THIS song, besides those two parts during the second verse, you don’t hear George’s playing at all. It’s drowned out by the production Paul gave it. The classical players with the strings came out WAY more and drowned out much of the song

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  2 місяці тому

      Paul was very hands on with the string arrangement according to Giles. Even pointing out that, "we were clashing slightly with George... He [Paul] said, 'I Want to hear what George is doing here" Giles also said that Paul told him to, "...listen to what George is playing on the guitar, you need to appreciate what he is doing and flow with that rhythm." The main problem is how compressed the mix is. Paul probably didn't do the final mix that was according to the credits done by Spike Stent.

  • @Southjj
    @Southjj 3 місяці тому +2

    Sounds a bit like Basketball Jones.

  • @ChaseArkansas
    @ChaseArkansas 3 місяці тому +1

    this shouldve been way louder on the mix

  • @allanmargolin
    @allanmargolin 3 місяці тому +3

    Haha John and George always so much cooler than the other two

  • @giaconealessandro3930
    @giaconealessandro3930 3 місяці тому

    Is that George or Paul playing the slide guitar part?

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  3 місяці тому

      Paul plays the slide guitar. George is playing the electric guitar.

  • @kaykybernardes2471
    @kaykybernardes2471 3 місяці тому

    Isn't that Paul which is playing??

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  3 місяці тому

      This part is George. Paul played the electric slide solo.

  • @johnwen8205
    @johnwen8205 3 місяці тому

    education for god is sweet and good where heart goes up

  • @Colossalandtitancaretaker
    @Colossalandtitancaretaker 5 місяців тому

    Can you isolate the acoustic guitars from now and then in the beginning?

  • @atomicflash1753
    @atomicflash1753 6 місяців тому +1

    Wait a minute, the new middle and end part were not added when George was alive, so how could this be George ??

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  6 місяців тому +8

      It was all done in 1995. You can actually hear George working on the 3/4 ending in the Now and Then short film here: ua-cam.com/video/APJAQoSCwuA/v-deo.html . By the way they talk about it in the short film back in 1995 George and Paul recorded some basic acoustic guitars, a piano and bass part(but these were later replaced by new parts in 2022), some shakers most likely by Ringo, some backing vocals which probably weren't used on the finished version, and George laid down this basic electric guitar part. It was sometime after that that the song was abounded most likely due to the sound quality of the demo. The entire song's structure was decided on in 1995. It was in 2022 that they overdubbed new parts onto what had already been included.
      TLDR: The song's structure was all done in 1995 along with the acoustic and electric guitar part that were carried over.

  • @da_great_mogul
    @da_great_mogul 3 місяці тому

    Same riff as "Don't Let Me Down".

  • @getumedge8702
    @getumedge8702 3 місяці тому

    Bill was involved in the production so that’s the reason why George’s guitar is buried in the mix.

  • @guru6741
    @guru6741 Місяць тому +1

    Pauls solo on slide guitar is really lousy and too loud. George would have surely done it in much much better way. Miss you George. Soung is awsome though

    • @riogrande163
      @riogrande163 28 днів тому

      That's just the isolation, in the final mix the slide guitar is actually buried by the background vocals.

  • @Bellmore1395
    @Bellmore1395 6 місяців тому +4

    Crazy how you can’t even hear this on the song. George was barely on it

  • @cristianmanrique728
    @cristianmanrique728 4 місяці тому

    George or "Paul 2023" ????....

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  4 місяці тому +6

      All George, except the slide guitar bleed.

  • @matheusmotatv
    @matheusmotatv 3 місяці тому

    actually it's paul doing electric guitar

  • @kedacchi12
    @kedacchi12 3 місяці тому

    ジョージの気持ちを思うと悲しいことです ジョージはこの曲を発売を拒否してた

  • @maykonsband2373
    @maykonsband2373 3 місяці тому +1

    He says „it’s a rubbish” and yet he made guitar licks for whole song?

    • @Ad.Dd.James.
      @Ad.Dd.James. 3 місяці тому +6

      Yep that's George Harrison for you.

  • @paulpennacchia701
    @paulpennacchia701 3 місяці тому

    Wouldnt put it past Macca to have it buried a bit, "if it aint about him"................well , you get the picture

    • @isolatedstems
      @isolatedstems  3 місяці тому +3

      I really don't think Paul did that. It doesn't seem like Paul had a lot of input on the mix itself just the elements for the mix. Giles is credited with the Atmos mix and Mark "Spike" Stent is credited for the stereo. So they probably just sent Paul the finished version and him and Ringo approved it. The strings also follow the guitar line in places, and because the mix is so homogonous it buries the guitar further.

  • @batmanhelpingspider-man2342
    @batmanhelpingspider-man2342 3 місяці тому +1

    I guess even in 2023 Paul McCartney still wanted to keep George’s guitar work silent just like in the later years of The Beatles..

  • @MrBuc128
    @MrBuc128 3 місяці тому

    I’m a huge Beatles fan but this song Now and Then is not a good song. It amazes how people insist it’s good. It’s ok to admit that it’s not a good song. That doesn’t change the fact that the Beatles are the best band of all time and that they have written the best songs in history.

    • @coolbeans1998
      @coolbeans1998 Місяць тому

      To each their own I guess 🤷‍♂️