Growing lead crystals

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  • Опубліковано 1 січ 2018
  • In this video, I'll be recreating an old demonstration called the Tree of Saturn. To do this, I'll be using a zinc block and lead acetate, both of which I made in previous videos.
    I was inspired by a video made by TheBackyardScientist, but I used a slightly different method and procedure.
    References:
    • TheBackYardScientist video: • How to Grow A Lead Cry...
    • Making lead acetate: • Making lead crystals t...
    • Making the zinc block: • Melting Zinc Battery C...
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  • @devon5714
    @devon5714 6 років тому +810

    Nilered must not be a great gardener. he managed to kill a metal tree

  • @TheBackyardScientist
    @TheBackyardScientist 6 років тому +379

    Awesome, I knew you were working on this video for awhile it turned out great and thanks for the shoutout! Shame about not being able to save the crystals. My idea was mix up some polyester resin and inject in into the bottom of the beaker. I bet the lead would still oxidize though.

    • @zaneabrams7110
      @zaneabrams7110 6 років тому +4

      I was thinking the same thing with the resin, not sure if the thickness/weight of the resin would end up damaging the crystals during the pouring process. It would certainly look pretty cool if it worked though.

    • @TheKnaeckebrot
      @TheKnaeckebrot 6 років тому +3

      why not try to submerge it quickly in silicone-oil ... or try to put it under nitrogen / vacuum with some Iron-powder to get rid of remaining oxygen?

    • @kehlerpete5379
      @kehlerpete5379 6 років тому +10

      I remember in highschool chemistry my teacher showed us the process of lead cyanide (I'm not 100% sure thats what it was) crystalizing after she took the breaker off of the burner. I remember beautiful yellow/gold crystals seeming to form as specks and they grew and grew into an amazing Crystal structure that would all fade away back to a clear liquid as soon as it was put on the burner again. Is there any way you could re create that experiment?

    • @sydneyhunt6681
      @sydneyhunt6681 3 роки тому

      Do you think that this could be a way of cleaning up battery acid do you think anyone ?!?!?!?!?!?!? 🤔

    • @user-pr6ed3ri2k
      @user-pr6ed3ri2k Рік тому

      300thliker

  • @Heya_Bud
    @Heya_Bud 4 роки тому +489

    its been a year, lets see how its held up

  • @carterplasek498
    @carterplasek498 6 років тому +250

    You should do something along the lines of an "Early Chemistry" type thing, I personally really enjoy the alchemical names of compounds, and think that a series about the more chemistry portions of alchemy would be amazing.

  • @sebastianduran2022
    @sebastianduran2022 4 роки тому +14

    I see this video daily in my recommendations, and i still read “Meth crystals” every time

    • @sina20
      @sina20 Місяць тому

      Me too! 😂

  • @thesentientneuron6550
    @thesentientneuron6550 6 років тому +420

    You can try to displace out the water with a dense, clear resin. (with no dissolved CO2 of course) Then, once the resin hardens you can take it out and display it

    • @manickn6819
      @manickn6819 6 років тому +52

      That's exactly what i was going to suggest. Some prior experimentation to ensure no reaction would make sense.

    • @pyro3138
      @pyro3138 6 років тому +4

      ^My thoughts

    • @jmpattillo
      @jmpattillo 6 років тому +14

      My thought exactly. You can get resins that have a low initial viscosity that may work well

    • @chiragpatil2052
      @chiragpatil2052 6 років тому +19

      A good UV resin like NOA68T and 365nm UV bulb from underneath for a few minutes should bake it well.

    • @nickjc1999
      @nickjc1999 6 років тому +31

      That's a very good idea, however the resin couldn't be much more viscous than the water or it might disrupt the crystals; they looked very delicate to me.

  • @dylanvellut
    @dylanvellut 6 років тому +223

    O chemisTree,
    O ChemisTree,
    How steadfast are
    Your branches!

  • @Hardts
    @Hardts 4 роки тому +68

    I was sure the title said "Growing Meth crystals" until I read it properly..

  • @googleeatsdicks
    @googleeatsdicks 6 років тому +125

    You can try to seal individual dentrites between glass slides with CA glue. With that technique I was able to preserve a snowflake.

    • @nameirrelevant1114
      @nameirrelevant1114 6 років тому +2

      It didn't melt?

    • @googleeatsdicks
      @googleeatsdicks 6 років тому +53

      The CA glue was below 0 °C and cyanoacrylate needs water to polymerize. I left it in the freezer for a day and by that time the ice crystals were replaced by a white CA structure which looks exactly like the snowflake.

    • @nameirrelevant1114
      @nameirrelevant1114 6 років тому +18

      Shit dude that's dope

    • @krtm7231
      @krtm7231 6 років тому +4

      photo please!

    • @googleeatsdicks
      @googleeatsdicks 6 років тому +11

      I don't have photos but there are plenty instructions and photos online. Just one edit: one day in the freezer might not be enough.

  • @kt8oz
    @kt8oz 4 роки тому +241

    “it became a miserable white crusty mess” me during my 3rd week of school

    • @mambafoo4083
      @mambafoo4083 4 роки тому +11

      Bruh U stole my joke 4 months before I even got to say it 😭

    • @heartcrafts3426
      @heartcrafts3426 4 роки тому +5

      @@mambafoo4083 Don't worry bro, you at least got it 3months before I did. 😁

    • @jbk0
      @jbk0 3 роки тому +1

      ummm why white...?

    • @kt8oz
      @kt8oz 3 роки тому +1

      @@jbk0 probably because im white. i wrote this super long ago tho i cant even remember watching the video lol

    • @jbk0
      @jbk0 3 роки тому +1

      @@kt8ozoh, I thought it was because of cum lmao

  • @astbrnrd
    @astbrnrd 6 років тому +7

    Your love & interest of chemistry and science are inspiring. Keep up the good work!

  • @marcmarc172
    @marcmarc172 6 років тому +5

    I was hoping for an continuous time lapse and the last one awesome! Also, the pearly white background is really nice for these videos.

  • @cassandraclark7359
    @cassandraclark7359 5 років тому +18

    How’s the tree of Saturn doing?

  • @anintelligenttalkingcowtha131
    @anintelligenttalkingcowtha131 6 років тому +20

    "I knocked it over..."
    Thats like, a must for chemists, at least trice...

  • @tren
    @tren 4 роки тому +57

    You read "Crystal Meth" and so did I.

  • @longshot789
    @longshot789 6 років тому

    Great videos, thanks for the consistent format!

  • @robotslug
    @robotslug 6 років тому

    My man NileRed for the new year. Yisss. Love your content dude.

  • @shonkysidewayssam6134
    @shonkysidewayssam6134 6 років тому

    I was watching your new videos from my tent at the Falls Music Festival, whilst I was stuck there during the torrential rain etc. I felt right at home...

  • @geurgeury
    @geurgeury 6 років тому +33

    You should grow it in a separation funnel, when it has fully grown, you can replace the lead solution with some other liquid by slowly emptying the funnel while you're adding the liquid.
    The other solution could be either an inert liquid or a clear casting plastic.

    • @Godspeed7955
      @Godspeed7955 6 років тому

      great idea

    • @pseudomonad
      @pseudomonad 6 років тому +5

      most casting resins aren't water-soluble, so it'd need to go via a thorough wash with acetone or something.

  • @Sepp180
    @Sepp180 6 років тому

    love your channel, and the quality of your videos is just amazing
    keep it up

  • @Lanetwin
    @Lanetwin 6 років тому

    Another incredible video. You’ve got my 7 year old son interested in chemistry. Couldn’t thank you enough for that!!!!

  • @anuraggundeti2906
    @anuraggundeti2906 6 років тому +2

    Big fan of your videos!! My interest in organic chemistry has grown because of you. Love from India!

    • @akhilthechemist
      @akhilthechemist 6 років тому

      anurag gundeti see my this video you know about common chemicals and where to get them ua-cam.com/video/CGVA5FbDpSg/v-deo.html

  • @RaExpIn
    @RaExpIn 6 років тому

    Growing metal crystals are always beautiful! Nice video!

  • @nicholi8933
    @nicholi8933 6 років тому

    That was really neat. A good example of inorganic chem at work.

  • @TheMotoRebel
    @TheMotoRebel 6 років тому

    Beauty cannot always be captured, but maybe revisited occasionally.

  • @coder0xff
    @coder0xff 6 років тому

    Cool stuff as always!

  • @sriramsankar8958
    @sriramsankar8958 6 років тому

    happy new year +nilered

  • @Aaron_Higgins
    @Aaron_Higgins 6 років тому +64

    Peter Brown might be able to dip some crystals in resin...

    • @henryjiang9664
      @henryjiang9664 6 років тому +11

      Aaron Higgins Pretty sure that they are too fragile, but it would be cool if it worked

    • @tuesdaywithanh
      @tuesdaywithanh 4 роки тому +2

      I don't know how he'd get the resin in without taking the crystals out of the water, but I would love to see it

    • @outistynnanyt5153
      @outistynnanyt5153 4 роки тому +1

      I was thinking tbe same thing

    • @cecilialopes9158
      @cecilialopes9158 4 роки тому +1

      This comment is waaay too much underated 😂

    • @DestructableGames
      @DestructableGames 4 роки тому

      Duuuuuude. Yes.

  • @TyPoProteus
    @TyPoProteus 4 роки тому +5

    Try coating it in "CrystalGel by Rosco" - It sets to a transparent plastic-like coating, and can be thinned with water, so should be fine if you go straight from the water bath to the gel.

  • @rawhamburgerjoe
    @rawhamburgerjoe 6 років тому

    That looks super cool!

  • @MrDarling1502
    @MrDarling1502 6 років тому

    your videos are so freaking cool

  • @NostalgiaDigital
    @NostalgiaDigital 3 роки тому +4

    I love to see those timelapdses, could keeping the vase in ice during the reaction slow the process and form bigger cristals? Thanks!

  • @industriebauten
    @industriebauten 6 років тому

    I love this beautiful fractal structure

  • @sonicthehedshot9789
    @sonicthehedshot9789 6 років тому +3

    Boil the water prior to rid any disolved gasses. If possible see if you can run the reaction in a container where you can drain the bottom. Displace the water with a light solvent like hexane or ethylacetate. Preserve it in the solvent.

  • @tayzatun6351
    @tayzatun6351 3 роки тому

    my class used your video during quarentine because we didn't have lab access (online). so thank you

  • @thedude7726
    @thedude7726 6 років тому +5

    I have no idea what's going on in half of your videos guys it's always fanaciting

  • @muhammadbilalkhan2916
    @muhammadbilalkhan2916 6 років тому

    I have seen almost all your videos and I think it would really cool if you made a series on different elements as you did with Mercury

  • @lil_weasel219
    @lil_weasel219 2 роки тому

    The first one look the best.nice large protruding crystals

  • @adnamamedia
    @adnamamedia 6 років тому +2

    In very surprised with how affordable your glassware is on your site! I expected it to be much more expensive, due to it being lab-grade and branded with your name. I will definitely be buying some

    • @TheBackyardScientist
      @TheBackyardScientist 6 років тому +5

      oh wow just checked it out. its a better deal than stuff from ebay thanks Nile!

  • @calyodelphi124
    @calyodelphi124 6 років тому

    Maaaan look at that beautiful dendritic crystal structure

  • @arinroy002
    @arinroy002 6 років тому +3

    If you keep the solution cool while the crystals are forming, would that result in bigger crystals?

  • @Matty-ep5fb
    @Matty-ep5fb 6 років тому

    that was cool man !

  • @Imdor
    @Imdor 6 років тому

    Resin dip would probably be your best bet, would also add som buoyancy to make the tree spead out a bit again.

  • @justusfelix2441
    @justusfelix2441 6 років тому +8

    When do you buy or build a fume hood?

  • @TheDrakenZ
    @TheDrakenZ 6 років тому

    Love your videos, you're a champion. Thank you! :D

  • @americanrebel413
    @americanrebel413 5 років тому

    This was really cool! Thank you. I just subscribed to your channel.

  • @fischX
    @fischX 6 років тому

    I love those crystalisation vieos, for me it is much more than nice looking, it is chemical self organisation at work and I can't wrap my head around it.

  • @TheDoctorginger
    @TheDoctorginger 3 роки тому

    I know it’s old but I love to rewatch it!

  • @nothingtoseehere5760
    @nothingtoseehere5760 3 роки тому +5

    Stumbled on this one by accident, wonder if you would be interested in designing an experiment to determine how much if any lead is actually dissolved out of glass crystal decanters into liquors? My first thought is that over time, any lead on the surface of the crystal will be dissolved out and they will be safe. If so, how long would that take? etc. Thanks for all the cool videos!

  • @michaelwho
    @michaelwho 5 років тому

    Love your channel and you. Thought I'd ask you. what happens with/to the burning lead roof on Notre Dam?

  • @irvingkurlinski
    @irvingkurlinski 6 років тому

    Nice video of the crystal growth. I wonder if zinc in a pure form would be useable to clean-up non-acidic lead waste solutions?

  • @andrewwoody9375
    @andrewwoody9375 3 роки тому

    Tin crystals are very fine as well but I leanred that using corningware to melt it and then cooling it gets crystals to grow because the corningware is a ceramicglass that allows the cooling to take long enough for crystals to grow. Would likely work for lead too. Probably any metal that doesn't exceed melting point of the corningware.

  • @SteelCurious
    @SteelCurious 6 років тому

    I don't know why but I just love listening to his voice

  • @imjody
    @imjody 5 років тому

    Man, this was freakin' AWESOME. Just subbed. Hope there's an update! ^_^

  • @Pow3llMorgan
    @Pow3llMorgan 6 років тому

    It would be super awesome if the reaction could be done in some sort of concoction that could be polymerized into a plastic / acrylic matrix, without removing or disturbing the crystals!

  • @hoseja
    @hoseja 6 років тому +1

    Wonder if you could gently replace the water with resin gently somehow.

  • @koga7349
    @koga7349 3 роки тому

    The crystal growth is like watching paint dry. Fine lead based paint that is

  • @LiborTinka
    @LiborTinka 6 років тому

    This would make a nice Christmas decoration. Who needs snoflakes when we have lead crystals!

  • @asm_nop
    @asm_nop 6 років тому

    You could make the lead trees then dilute/displace any ions in the solution before electroplating it with a more durable metal, and also a nice shine. Gold would look really interesting.

  • @d3athreaper100
    @d3athreaper100 4 роки тому

    I wonder if there are any resins that would allow the reaction to take place inside of it so you could just let it harden around the tree of Saturn.
    I'm thinking if you made a hollow cup and then poured the lead acetate solution into the cup did the reaction and then slowly replaced the leftover solution with a thinner resin and then that could Harden and you could make it into a keychain

  • @szidoniazsigmondbaticzky2848
    @szidoniazsigmondbaticzky2848 4 роки тому +42

    "Metal crystals" and I read "meth crystals"

    • @flamingogh_
      @flamingogh_ 4 роки тому +1

      Same. I keep seeing the thumbnail in my recommended, and I've done this a few times.

  • @Howie672
    @Howie672 11 місяців тому

    Love your video thanks.

  • @5in1killa
    @5in1killa 4 роки тому

    Every time this comes up in my feed I think it says Meth Crystals for a second. I've seen it before but YT really wants me to watch it so I did.

  • @sciencealexisro1208
    @sciencealexisro1208 6 років тому

    Happy new year

  • @TheMarshiiRose
    @TheMarshiiRose Рік тому

    Yum! Lead crystals!

  • @sultanafareen9597
    @sultanafareen9597 2 роки тому

    Nice video and fantastic

  • @bluevortex7992
    @bluevortex7992 6 років тому

    Hi great video there would it be possible to use lead nitrate as it's also a soluble lead salt or would the zinc react with the nitric acid produced by hydrolysis of the nitrate (in solution producing nitric acid) which then would attack the zinc?

  • @joachimgrek6920
    @joachimgrek6920 4 роки тому +1

    Now it is a little over two years since you made your "tree of saturn".
    Do you still have it, and what does it look like now?

  • @Convolutedtubules
    @Convolutedtubules 6 років тому

    I Wonder if it is possible to do this reaction in some kind of resin that will set after the rxn is complete.

  • @wintersknight9411
    @wintersknight9411 3 роки тому

    Let's see the progress

  • @kieranhall1998
    @kieranhall1998 6 років тому

    could you possibly dip it into a clear resin to preserve the formations created?

  • @yorgle
    @yorgle 5 років тому

    Is there a follow-up video for this? (have you tried replacing the water with something like nitrogen, rather than room-air?)

  • @qvatch
    @qvatch 6 років тому +20

    Why do the crystals preferentally form at the top of the zinc block?

    • @sonicthehedshot9789
      @sonicthehedshot9789 6 років тому +9

      The lead crystals form at the surface of the zinc because that's where it gains the electrons needed to reduce into elemental lead. Water has high resistivity so the closer the lead is to where the electrical current is strongest it will form.

    • @jpolowin0
      @jpolowin0 3 роки тому +1

      @@sonicthehedshot9789 That doesn't explain why the growth was fastest at the top. My guess is that the feathery crystals were growing from the wire, and were different from the ones that grew directly from the lead. The obvious test would be to repeat the experiment in such a way that the wire wasn't in contact with the solution.

  • @Tenajeh
    @Tenajeh Рік тому

    Interesting video! Those trees are really pretty. ^^
    What would happen if you started with a more filigrane zink "seed" like just the tip of a zink needle dipping into the water or a small crumb fixed to the wire?
    And would there be a way to slowly replace the water with some other liquid that can go into all the small gaps and then turn solid after a semi-long while?

  • @brandondotson8035
    @brandondotson8035 5 років тому

    Could you work in a tub or something with one of the Noble gasses to displace the air before trying preserving metal crystals?

  • @cmmc3400
    @cmmc3400 5 років тому

    That explains the white crust on the lead pipes I had removed in my flip houses.

  • @tonylopez2987
    @tonylopez2987 6 років тому +1

    Can you freeze it to harden the crystal structures, the beaker may have to be sacrificed but or try it again in an open beaker, but it could result in a more stable crystal structure

  • @CoxTH
    @CoxTH 6 років тому

    I am wondering...is it possible to perform a variation of this experiment with salts/metals that are easier to acquire for the layman? Not to mention the toxicity of lead.

  • @timothysullivan1669
    @timothysullivan1669 2 роки тому

    Would be quite interesting to see if a controlled amount of lead acetate could create a tree of a certain size.
    I also wonder what would happen if you froze the water with the tree inside. Would it destroy it, or preserve it?

  • @Miroslav5578
    @Miroslav5578 4 роки тому +1

    is possible to stop process and seal it in some jello or epoxy - like carefully change liquids?

  • @nunyabizzness8844
    @nunyabizzness8844 4 роки тому

    one question would it grow upwards if you placed the zink at the bottom and using a mold to hold it in place inside of the bottle and then completely fill it up with the lead astatine then seal it for a completely sealed with nearly no air inside the bottle? I know this is an old video but still was curious

  • @captainhoarse
    @captainhoarse 3 роки тому

    The colour of Galena (PbS) is pretty close to these lead crystals with slightly more blueish purple tint to it. neat.

  • @BIIXBOX
    @BIIXBOX 3 роки тому

    I think that's how the energy shape itself through this element and the solution do something like dismantling and slowing that energy and that's how you can see its shape like this REALLY COOL STUFF I like that

  • @logicomix7976
    @logicomix7976 5 років тому

    How is it possible that the redox reaction take place beyond the surface of the zinc bar?

  • @damungo9142
    @damungo9142 6 років тому

    Is it possible to use this reaction to detect lead in a solution of various metal salts?

  • @cookingwithcorey3346
    @cookingwithcorey3346 2 роки тому

    Would there be a way to replace the water with resin after the crystals form? Like add the resin to it from the bottom with like a tube or something and just displace the water? Or would the resin react with the water and ruin in?

  • @Ir8Xe
    @Ir8Xe 6 років тому

    I did not try but it possible to dissolve Pb(OAc)2 in hardener (2nd part of epoxy resin), put peace of Zn? grow up Pb crystals and than slowly added epoxy component.

  • @icewolf9067
    @icewolf9067 Рік тому +1

    I wonder if you can make one of these but put it in some very strong shatter prof glass then have it sealed and sell them as a fun knickknack?

  • @allurared9029
    @allurared9029 6 років тому

    I was really looking forward to this video, and was not disappointed. I was thinking the lead crystals would be a lot stronger though, and I planned to do this and seal it in acrylic as a keychain or something but I doubt the would survive the heavy arcylic goop. Also, doing this in a large ampule could be cool. happy new years!
    Also, could this be done with stannous acetate, seeing as they have the same valence electrons?

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  6 років тому

      I think I remember reading somewhere that someone tried it and it didnt work. It still might be worth trying though.

  • @andreivoinea7343
    @andreivoinea7343 6 років тому

    Can you use other metals that are more reactive than lead to do this experiment?

  • @MegaPoxie
    @MegaPoxie 3 роки тому

    Have you thought of setting it in an epoxy resin block which would protect it from air permanently?

  • @Ludvictv
    @Ludvictv 6 років тому

    At the first part of video i see the lead acetate nucleation some like the sodium acetate reaction..maybe other solution react like sodium acetate, what do you think?

  • @RealRuler2112
    @RealRuler2112 6 років тому

    What about using either a polyester or long-setting epoxy resin instead of water? Don't know if the chemical reaction that forms the crystals would work and not react with the chemicals in the resin, but might be worth a shot - you could simply allow the resin to cure and therefore preserve the pattern formed.

  • @mutte79
    @mutte79 4 роки тому

    Would it be possible to make the lead acetate into a more oily state so the crystals can hopefully grow with less gravity affecting the lead and make a more "fluffy" tree?

  • @thes1lentgamer70
    @thes1lentgamer70 6 років тому

    would it work if you did this in a snow globe kit? i mean you said the crystals were fragile so would turning them upside down break them or could you place the zinc upward and the crystals still grow.

  • @arimtzv
    @arimtzv 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you YT for sending me a notification for this video that just got released... wait a second...

  • @marialiyubman
    @marialiyubman 4 роки тому

    This should go on your Xmas video list.
    What if you dipped it in resin after?

  • @maxischerr
    @maxischerr 6 років тому

    Is by a elektrolysis with trisodium citrate something as oxygen and hydroxen generated (Trisodium citrate works well with cheap iron electrodes)? Thanks, and sorry for that question here, but i didn't found anything about it... :D

  • @NapoleonPicard
    @NapoleonPicard 3 роки тому

    would it be a ood idea to fill the rest of the bottle at the end with clear oil to keep any and all air out? Would it last longer then?

  • @DasSpaceAce
    @DasSpaceAce 5 років тому

    Maybe try doing a snow globe type thing....use a container with a screw on lid, like a Mason jar & glue the zinc to the underside of the lid. Screw the lid on and let it do its thing, so that once the 'tree' is done growing, you can just gently turn it over, so it looks like it grew upward. Then it can stay in that solution, no worries about oxidation/calcification.