Thank you for this great follow-up. It was great to hear your insights now that you have gotten some experience with the machine. I've been trying to decide between this machine and a similar JET, and I was put off a bit by some rather bad reviews of their customer service on the Felder facebook page. I would be quite interested in hearing how your experience have been with Felder customer service and overall machine quality. Once again thank your fro tasking the time for this great review.
The machine quality is amazing. Sevice not so much. Must have called them 4 times before they finally sent me instruction how to calibrate my machine. I kept having to call them to remind them to email me the brochure. They finally did. Then I ordered the digital dial indicator that comes with the special wheel. Paid for it in full and they send me the dial indicator and told me they would send me the wheel one week later cause they did not have it in stock. One month later I called them to remind them to send me the wheel. I got it 2 weeks later. I recently talked to another salesman about a felder sliding table saw. He seamed to be more on the ball. He gave me a price including delivery and send a guy over to install and calibrate it. Hoping to be able to afford it soon. There products are excellent quality and would still buy from them regardless of service. Hope that helps you make your decision.
@@KlausPedersen_gaffa The word I have from a FELDER/HAMMER source is the HAMMER line is made in China and assembled in Austria, so take that for what it is worth. I just went through a six-month ordeal that I ended up having two A3 31's delivered, the second one was to be a replacement for the defective one. And both ended up having major issues. I know many people have and love their HAMMER's, and I wish I could be one of them. But at this point, and after 20+ hours of technicians working on the two I got, I have decided to try my luck with the FELDER line. I am looking at spending more and getting an AD 531. Hopefully the third times a charm…
Sir, I appreciate this video. I have a new a3-31 and am happy to hear your opinions. Th reason I am leaving a comment, is to tell you this, but also to tell you that the gloves plus not using the guard together are a catastrophe waiting to happen. Please rethink your safety procedures.
Once again i love your dedication and how you always put the effort to make QUALITY videos !! With that being said, i wish you a happy new year !!! Hope your health will be perfect and that success will treat you well !!! :)
Nice. I had a smaller combo planet/jointer that I loved for job sites. Took a little experience to really appreciate it though, just like yours. For my shop I had separate dedicated planet & jointers. Retired now. Too many back surgeries & hardware in my back to bend & lift much now. I enjoy watching the projects you do.
Great followup. Glad you're happy with it. The format series gives you a wider bed (around 20", IIRC), power up/down (which I would love), and a more industrial fence. But really, the Hammer is all that most of us would need.
How much do you take off per pass when planing (rotations of the crank)? Just got mine and it does not pull the wood through at a consistent rate. It sputters through. Can't tell if I'm trying to take off too much or too little? Thanks.
That was a great demonstration of your machine making a good piece of usable wood out a piece of wood that you could have made a sky out of....great machine....went down for Christmas but went down 1 day ....the next day visite and came back the other day...I did not have time to go and see you but I promise next time I will take the time if your happy to have me....CHEERS
I often plane wood 12 inch wide so I’m really happy I got the 16 inch planer. Also handy if you want to do cutting boards. If you want to build bird houses then yeah the 12 inch planer is just fine.
first rule in Germany, do not work with gloves because it is very dangerous second rule in Germany, always use the safety protection for the knife shaft
When you have it against the wall, what's the dimension from the wall to the outermost part of the machine (and could you push it any closer to the wall)? I'm considering this for my garage shop and am not sure if it will work. Thanks and nice video.
If you have a small shop I would recommend getting the rolling carriage (actually I'd recommend it regardless of the size of the shop). You can butt the machine right up against the and easily pull it away from the wall when you use it. Once you push the fence all the way in the whole machine is not much wider than the planing bed itself.
@@bluewren65 Would you say, about 20-24"? I'm also looking at the dimensions as the space it will be going in is quite tight. It's already a good fit with my 8" jointer there so I would imagine going to 16", I would lose some walkway space, but just wondering how much space...
@@davidn7945 if you want to use it at full capacity, you need at least the width of the jointer capacity in between the machine ad the wall, since the fence moves back
Thx for this great review, what kind of dust collector do you use? In my opinion the hammer series from felder is one of the best price/quality products on the market for ambitious hobbyist, keep up the great work french river👍best regards
@@frenchriversprings thx man, ok good, its just that i realized with my hammer c3 31 that you really need a good and powerfull collector when planing large pieces, best regards
How much material are you taking off with each pass on the jointer? You need the GrnGate system, intergraded dust control system. I love my system, never have to touch anything to do with dust control. Just turn on the machines and mill wood! 👍🏻
No if I do a lot then I usually put it on. If I joint 2” or thicker then I feel safe without the guard but I still have to be vigilant and know the danger of the machine.
@@frenchriversprings feeling safe is very dangerous, you should work safely. Check everything before turning on the machine, always use the blade guard in the correct way. Do you feel safe working with gloves? It is very dangerous, once caught in the running blade you can’t remove your hand, the machine will do it. ua-cam.com/video/H0ienwoWuWY/v-deo.html
Good follow up video. Just curious why you are not using the jointer guard? Apparently a much better system compared to the north American "porc chop" guard found on most jointers. Bonne Année 2020!
Happy new year a Jason! I feel pretty safe not using the jointer guard when I joint wood 2" or thicker but I always use it when jointing less than 2" thick.
Shit, I've been trying to get those Felder clowns to contact me so I can spend money with the. I haven't even bought anything and the customer service sucks.
@@bluewren65 - It's a mechanical digital indicator, as opposed to an electronic digital indicator. But not analogue - "relating to or using signals or information represented by a continuously variable physical quantity".
Thank you for this great follow-up. It was great to hear your insights now that you have gotten some experience with the machine. I've been trying to decide between this machine and a similar JET, and I was put off a bit by some rather bad reviews of their customer service on the Felder facebook page. I would be quite interested in hearing how your experience have been with Felder customer service and overall machine quality. Once again thank your fro tasking the time for this great review.
The machine quality is amazing. Sevice not so much. Must have called them 4 times before they finally sent me instruction how to calibrate my machine. I kept having to call them to remind them to email me the brochure. They finally did. Then I ordered the digital dial indicator that comes with the special wheel. Paid for it in full and they send me the dial indicator and told me they would send me the wheel one week later cause they did not have it in stock. One month later I called them to remind them to send me the wheel. I got it 2 weeks later. I recently talked to another salesman about a felder sliding table saw. He seamed to be more on the ball. He gave me a price including delivery and send a guy over to install and calibrate it. Hoping to be able to afford it soon. There products are excellent quality and would still buy from them regardless of service. Hope that helps you make your decision.
@@frenchriversprings Thanks a lot. Glad to hear.
@@KlausPedersen_gaffa Hello, is it true that China produces them?
@@huseinstolar2018 Not to my knowledge. As I understand all their products are produced in Austria.
@@KlausPedersen_gaffa The word I have from a FELDER/HAMMER source is the HAMMER line is made in China and assembled in Austria, so take that for what it is worth. I just went through a six-month ordeal that I ended up having two A3 31's delivered, the second one was to be a replacement for the defective one. And both ended up having major issues. I know many people have and love their HAMMER's, and I wish I could be one of them. But at this point, and after 20+ hours of technicians working on the two I got, I have decided to try my luck with the FELDER line. I am looking at spending more and getting an AD 531. Hopefully the third times a charm…
Sir, I appreciate this video. I have a new a3-31 and am happy to hear your opinions. Th reason I am leaving a comment, is to tell you this, but also to tell you that the gloves plus not using the guard together are a catastrophe waiting to happen. Please rethink your safety procedures.
Like the machine... put the guard on the cutter block, it only takes one tiny slip to remove your hand!
Great follow up review. A lot of good points brought up! Looks like a great machine to use.
Once again i love your dedication and how you always put the effort to make QUALITY videos !! With that being said, i wish you a happy new year !!! Hope your health will be perfect and that success will treat you well !!! :)
Thank you Bryan and happy new year to you as well!
Nice. I had a smaller combo planet/jointer that I loved for job sites. Took a little experience to really appreciate it though, just like yours.
For my shop I had separate dedicated planet & jointers.
Retired now. Too many back surgeries & hardware in my back to bend & lift much now.
I enjoy watching the projects you do.
Thank You
Great followup. Glad you're happy with it.
The format series gives you a wider bed (around 20", IIRC), power up/down (which I would love), and a more industrial fence. But really, the Hammer is all that most of us would need.
The Format machine also costs a lot more $$$ and the Hammer is a pricey enough machine as it is.
How much do you take off per pass when planing (rotations of the crank)? Just got mine and it does not pull the wood through at a consistent rate. It sputters through. Can't tell if I'm trying to take off too much or too little? Thanks.
That was a great demonstration of your machine making a good piece of usable wood out a piece of wood that you could have made a sky out of....great machine....went down for Christmas but went down 1 day ....the next day visite and came back the other day...I did not have time to go and see you but I promise next time I will take the time if your happy to have me....CHEERS
Yes for sure stop in next time if you have time. Merry Christmas and happy new year!
Get some push blocks and use the guard, please.
Thank you for the review! P.s the manual says no gloves ;)
I'm debating between the A3-41 (16" wide) and A3-31 (12" wide) models. How often do you find yourself actually using more than 12" in width?
I often plane wood 12 inch wide so I’m really happy I got the 16 inch planer. Also handy if you want to do cutting boards. If you want to build bird houses then yeah the 12 inch planer is just fine.
first rule in Germany, do not work with gloves because it is very dangerous second rule in Germany, always use the safety protection for the knife shaft
When you have it against the wall, what's the dimension from the wall to the outermost part of the machine (and could you push it any closer to the wall)? I'm considering this for my garage shop and am not sure if it will work. Thanks and nice video.
If you have a small shop I would recommend getting the rolling carriage (actually I'd recommend it regardless of the size of the shop). You can butt the machine right up against the and easily pull it away from the wall when you use it. Once you push the fence all the way in the whole machine is not much wider than the planing bed itself.
@@bluewren65 Would you say, about 20-24"? I'm also looking at the dimensions as the space it will be going in is quite tight. It's already a good fit with my 8" jointer there so I would imagine going to 16", I would lose some walkway space, but just wondering how much space...
@@davidn7945 if you want to use it at full capacity, you need at least the width of the jointer capacity in between the machine ad the wall, since the fence moves back
great machine... security-wise the video is a catastrophe :)
Thx for this great review, what kind of dust collector do you use? In my opinion the hammer series from felder is one of the best price/quality products on the market for ambitious hobbyist, keep up the great work french river👍best regards
Thank You. It's the craftex CX 400. Not the best quality but it does the job
@@frenchriversprings thx man, ok good, its just that i realized with my hammer c3 31 that you really need a good and powerfull collector when planing large pieces, best regards
I like your taste in equipment. You mentioned dust collector. What other brands have you looked at?
Just wondering ... où est-ce que tu achètes ton bois rough?
Chez Commonwealth plywood a North Bay
@@frenchriversprings Vendent-ils au publique ou si je doit être enregistré comme business?
Oui il vende au public mais je sais pas ci le prix est plus élevé. J’achète aussi à Neos à Sudbury mais eux il vende seulement au business enregistre.
How much material are you taking off with each pass on the jointer? You need the GrnGate system, intergraded dust control system. I love my system, never have to touch anything to do with dust control. Just turn on the machines and mill wood! 👍🏻
I was taking off about 1/16". My dust collector was hooked up to the machine.
Do you leave the blade guard off all the time?
No if I do a lot then I usually put it on. If I joint 2” or thicker then I feel safe without the guard but I still have to be vigilant and know the danger of the machine.
@@frenchriversprings feeling safe is very dangerous, you should work safely. Check everything before turning on the machine, always use the blade guard in the correct way.
Do you feel safe working with gloves? It is very dangerous, once caught in the running blade you can’t remove your hand, the machine will do it.
ua-cam.com/video/H0ienwoWuWY/v-deo.html
Why do you need a planer if you have a jointer this big?
Because if I joint both sides, the thickness will not be the same at both ends of the board
@@frenchriversprings Ah, right, gotcha. Makes sense.
you say its an $8,000 machine
i just got a quote of $5,400 ?
is it a Canada thing?
my only hesitation is the length
Good follow up video. Just curious why you are not using the jointer guard? Apparently a much better system compared to the north American "porc chop" guard found on most jointers. Bonne Année 2020!
Happy new year a Jason! I feel pretty safe not using the jointer guard when I joint wood 2" or thicker but I always use it when jointing less than 2" thick.
@@frenchriversprings how do you like the euro guard vs. Porc chop style?
Yeah the Euro guard works really nice. Better than the pork chop style for sure.
Shit, I've been trying to get those Felder clowns to contact me so I can spend money with the.
I haven't even bought anything and the customer service sucks.
Ya they will let your bones bleach in the desert 😂
I submitted a question on their website and had a sales guy calling me the following morning :)
9:35 wtf thats horrible what you do...
gloves..
the quard.....
Wouldn't that be called a mechanical indicator?
It should be called an analogue indicator. But it does have digits on it.
@@bluewren65 - It's a mechanical digital indicator, as opposed to an electronic digital indicator. But not analogue - "relating to or using signals or information represented by a continuously variable physical quantity".
@@Wayfarer-Sailing I stand corrected. Either way, it is amazing and I would recommend it to anyone buying this machine.
Never use gloves. Always use delivered safety mechanism and dont disassemble it ...
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I always run wood through the thicknesser first and at that makes it easier to run through the jointer as the thicknesser will run of the bumps.
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lol wut
that doesn't even work
Thank you for the reviwe. Please use no gloves. Is dangerous,