‘I have 2 Masters' degrees, Orengo has none’: Murkomen clashes with Orengo

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  • @themightywallace9519
    @themightywallace9519 4 роки тому +29

    Orengo is a moving Constitution. Murkomen is a dreaming Law practioner. SIMPLE

  • @nephatoliech5601
    @nephatoliech5601 4 роки тому +72

    I didn't know that murkomen has two masters degrees, I thought that Orengo had a PhD in law!! This just goes to show that paper qualifications are not necessarily as productive!!! It is a shame that Murkomen had to expose this about himself. His paper qualifications prove to be of less worth, than orengo bachelor degrees!!! He should ask PLO!!!

    • @jengerp
      @jengerp 3 роки тому +3

      you should know their is a gap of 30 years in their age

    • @nephatoliech5601
      @nephatoliech5601 3 роки тому +12

      @@jengerp seems like experience beats education. Thanks for clarifying.

    • @cheruiyotchumba7303
      @cheruiyotchumba7303 2 роки тому +2

      Proud luo

    • @nephatoliech5601
      @nephatoliech5601 2 роки тому +1

      @@cheruiyotchumba7303 that must be kipchumba Onyango Murkomen. that is why he has to tell people that he has two master's degree. Good for him. we need more people with such high degrees.

    • @amanimapenzi571
      @amanimapenzi571 2 роки тому

      Unasema Nini. What is it that orenga has delivered

  • @rosemaryotieno1
    @rosemaryotieno1 4 роки тому +232

    Let me save you the stress. It begins from 16:55

    • @aganlabale4985
      @aganlabale4985 4 роки тому +8

      Thanks bwaana am watching it from Somalia🇸🇴🇰🇪✌

    • @davidjuma4194
      @davidjuma4194 4 роки тому +10

      Not all heroes wear capes...thanks

    • @atwenga
      @atwenga 4 роки тому +1

      Thanks jo!

    • @BarakaOfficials
      @BarakaOfficials 4 роки тому +4

      Thanks for saving time 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

    • @hidoabdirahman9842
      @hidoabdirahman9842 4 роки тому +1

      We need pple like you my friend,,,you make work easier,,,

  • @alikarua9293
    @alikarua9293 4 роки тому +32

    Education does not sabstitute intelligence... Though it can enhance.. But never substitute intelligence..... Murkomen is a clear example

  • @otienorodgers2704
    @otienorodgers2704 3 роки тому +8

    Experience is the best teacher and Orengo has it...gudos my incoming governor

  • @alfredmbayi4491
    @alfredmbayi4491 4 роки тому +16

    James Orengo I like your argument you argue without makasiriko

  • @brianolela6273
    @brianolela6273 3 роки тому +13

    Murkomen should understand that Orengo was a busy Student Leader back then at UON. He wasn’t a bookworm

  • @meshackkirui2340
    @meshackkirui2340 3 роки тому +22

    Orengo has been through a lot , he is surely strong💪🏿💪🏿

  • @alvinthewise1619
    @alvinthewise1619 4 роки тому +22

    Education is not scoring A's or being a First Class person... Masters... Convince us that u are wise in your arguments... don't be boastful about papers..

  • @timothyonyango9
    @timothyonyango9 4 роки тому +32

    One can have even 20 degrees but lack experience and wisdom. Murkomen is proving to be one. A village champion.

    • @wraykimaruleli2765
      @wraykimaruleli2765 4 роки тому +1

      But he is there,& where are you🤔?..A village Champ?What's the difference with a Lakeside fisherman?

    • @blacksheep4159
      @blacksheep4159 2 роки тому +1

      Not everyone from Nyanza is a fisherman, some from Ugenya,Alego,Gem etc have never been to the lake either.Lake Victoria isn't everywhere in the Nyanza region

    • @billwilliam9419
      @billwilliam9419 2 роки тому +1

      @@blacksheep4159 goes without saying the level of the guys intelligence

  • @mwemapatti1896
    @mwemapatti1896 4 роки тому +21

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Murkomen got emotional 😂😂😂😂😂he shouldn't debate again

  • @davidondeda932
    @davidondeda932 4 роки тому +18

    I shall forever Love Sen. James Orego

  • @satrades7321
    @satrades7321 4 роки тому +8

    OMG Mr Orengo is super sharp man

  • @AmonJoe
    @AmonJoe 4 роки тому +29

    Murkomen cant compare to Orengo even in his next life.

  • @bensoncherop3249
    @bensoncherop3249 4 роки тому +9

    Orengo has more experience and I believe experience is much better than papers, if a told you want a lawyer who will win your case me think Orengo is the best bet

  • @nevilleokumu7885
    @nevilleokumu7885 4 роки тому +50

    Never try to argue when you are angry ....

    • @herbalist7496
      @herbalist7496 4 роки тому +1

      Very true..

    • @musa2843
      @musa2843 4 роки тому +2

      Perhaps the reason he is said to be a flop in legal practice

    • @dankago8668
      @dankago8668 4 роки тому

      True, coz you look very foolish when you do so

  • @elickykibet3079
    @elickykibet3079 4 роки тому +24

    I love how Orengo argues

  • @gbabhu4449
    @gbabhu4449 4 роки тому +7

    Murkomen is more learned but Orengo is more educated.

  • @mpendamuziki
    @mpendamuziki 4 роки тому +14

    When people compare what they have, ati I have 2 and you have one, it really bugs me. You see, a smart person makes the best of everything they have. Orengo may have a bachelors only. But look at what’s he’s been able to do in his entire life. He has shaped the constitution, he has annulled a presidential election, he has been the brains behind Raila’s entire career, he has done a lot. I don’t think that Orengo is comparable to anyone in politics.

    • @johnwilliam7410
      @johnwilliam7410 7 місяців тому

      you must be dump to say orengo curated baba's political career

  • @brianomweri4805
    @brianomweri4805 4 роки тому +17

    With 2 masters and still he can't comprehend a very simple question

  • @abdullatifbazmul9982
    @abdullatifbazmul9982 4 роки тому +23

    Academic you know better Markomen. But you are forgetting experience has NO. Substitute.

    • @josephkipsang420
      @josephkipsang420 4 роки тому

      Orengo as experience, hiyo experience yake I think huwa inawalisha

  • @mainagithambo833
    @mainagithambo833 4 роки тому +9

    This truth was too hurtful to the senators who thinks Orengo is a god in legal matters.... Someone rightfully challenged his papers...😀😀😀Katambe

  • @eriyapaulo597
    @eriyapaulo597 2 роки тому +21

    What James Orengo can do with one Bachelors of Laws degree will still be more visible than what Murkomen can do with 10 Masters.

    • @mzeewandembonyirongo2972
      @mzeewandembonyirongo2972 Рік тому

      But at this time Murkomen was 43 years while Orengo was 70 years. So he has time to make his manuscript...

  • @soccerpro7300
    @soccerpro7300 4 роки тому +16

    Murkomen giving Orengo a taste of his own goose...

    • @TREASUREZION8
      @TREASUREZION8 4 роки тому

      😜😜🤣🤣

    • @HANDOLOH
      @HANDOLOH 3 роки тому

      He showed how stupid he was you cant argue with someone then you say l used to be number 1 who are you as number 10 to lecture me?

    • @ewm4266
      @ewm4266 2 роки тому

      Hehe more like Murkomenos stupidity

  • @kenartz
    @kenartz 4 роки тому +10

    Degrees siku hizi Ni prsa,no one should brag about that. Wisdom and knowledge work miracles when they work together.

  • @vivosereni
    @vivosereni 4 роки тому +14

    Cattle Dip lawyer talking too much just to please the boss.......Anyway am just waiting the Day Sinior lawyer Mutula Kilonzo will stand for Presidency I will vote him 1000% he is one of the brightest lawyers a live today .

  • @tiberioustuti715
    @tiberioustuti715 4 роки тому +8

    I don't see anything wrong from both sides it's true Murkomen has never argued and won a case in the Supreme Court and its also true that Orengo is less educated than Murkomen both are facts why should anybody feel offended

    • @karaninamunyu6072
      @karaninamunyu6072 2 роки тому

      Fact that one person can have many papers which make him/her an educated fool or maybe literate. The other one has one paper and intelligent. I'd rather go for one paper and intelligence than many papers that mean nothing

  • @edwinsiala8028
    @edwinsiala8028 4 роки тому +16

    Masters degree or not, Orengo is super intelligent. Iam not sure I can say that of Murkomen. And by the way any person who has some education can get two masters degree. Nothing to boast about really.

  • @godfreykimani4605
    @godfreykimani4605 4 роки тому +14

    2 masters and upper class division but kwa ground mambo ni different with zero case represented in supreme Court and not even a member of any constitutional committee

  • @obonyoijohngabriel9672
    @obonyoijohngabriel9672 4 роки тому +57

    Remember orengo told you sometime back, that governments and revolutions eat their own now dance to its tune

    • @msejuma1105
      @msejuma1105 4 роки тому +1

      that means nothing

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 4 роки тому +5

      @@msejuma1105 It means something. 3 children have already been swallowed up.

    • @titusokwiri3488
      @titusokwiri3488 4 роки тому +4

      @@msejuma1105 I think you know nothing about the government Orengo is doing his work which he told the Jubilee supporters earlier two years ago and now Fedinarnd Waititu,Susan Kihika and Kipchumba Murkomen who is talking here childish are the ones who were supporting the government of jubilee.

  • @noeltheliberalmillennial4886
    @noeltheliberalmillennial4886 4 роки тому +7

    Mutula Kilonzo Jr.....his voice is so calming.

  • @wellingtonokilla5579
    @wellingtonokilla5579 Рік тому +3

    I miss this kind of debates

  • @kevinsw3820
    @kevinsw3820 3 роки тому +1

    Mr Orengo is the Constitution.. Walking Constitution

  • @xionjoe.joetegreat9305
    @xionjoe.joetegreat9305 4 роки тому +5

    Leave long orengo
    Ur cry ad baba after being rigged 2013,2017
    God has heard ur cry
    Keep on praising him ad serving him
    He is faithful to his servant
    Amen

  • @josiahkisaghi1214
    @josiahkisaghi1214 4 роки тому +11

    Miguna ndo amesoma,,two first class degrees,law and political science both in abroad,distinction in masters abroad,,juris doctor

    • @mwafrikahalisi2549
      @mwafrikahalisi2549 3 роки тому

      What is *"abroad?"*

    • @busolopeter7215
      @busolopeter7215 3 роки тому +1

      Unfortunately Miguna has a personality problem. I cannot even ask him to represent me in a court of law.

    • @mwafrikahalisi2549
      @mwafrikahalisi2549 3 роки тому

      @@busolopeter7215 It is called *"delusion of grandeur!"*

  • @georgeodhiambo598
    @georgeodhiambo598 4 роки тому +17

    Damn! Orengo is sharp!

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 4 роки тому +4

      @@betinansi201 I said SHARP, I didn't say high development record. The role of the legislature is as follows:
      1. Legislation (it is called the Legislature)
      2. Representation
      3. Oversight
      "Development" is not a role for the Legislature. Go through the Constitution and if you come across development as being one of the roles for the legislature, then kindly let me know under which clause it falls. The three arms of govt, namely the Executive, the Judiciary and the Legislature all have very different roles and are facilitated differently. Development falls under the Executive. Why do you want to judge a doctor by how well he performs at plumbing work! Why judge a bishop by how accurately he fires a gun? Are you going to judge a lawyer by how well he plays football? No. Kila mtu na lane yake. Damn! Orengo is SHAAAAAAAAARP!

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 4 роки тому

      @@betinansi201 MPs don't develop their areas. The funds that go into developing those areas are in the Executive's budget. Even a small budget as the old CDF which had overlooked the principle of separation of powers, had to be re-aligned into NG-CDF to move it away from the Legislature! In the earlier days both budgeting and expenditure was fully in the hands of the Executive. "Development" was a tool used by the Executive to silence some MP's and raise the profile of others. It is those representatives who questioned the Executive repeatedly who raised the conscience of the nation to rise to the level of reforming and realigning the power structure and gaining of civil liberties. Some of those representatives paid the price with their lives. Others, with detention without trial. Some, jail terms on trumped up charges. Others, like Orengo and other radical leaders had their areas starved of state funds to paint them as "non-development conscious leaders". That was twisted logic by the Executive. The role of "Development" lies squarely with the Executive. To transfer it to the Legislature is to create a constitutional quagmire. How can the Legislature be responsible for "development" and also be required by the same constitution to play an oversight role over the same development?? A body cannot oversight itself! The Legislature's role does not, and cannot logically include "development".

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 4 роки тому

      @Beautiful Relaxation Music In the debate, when Murkomen was "yombayombaring" Orengo stated with finality that the debate was a motion, neither a trial nor a tribunal and it was final. When Murkomen was "floating" without anchoring his points on constitutionalism, he asked him with precision to state which part of the constitution he was anchoring his points and Murkomen was tongue tied. When Murkomen tried to hide behind administrative justice clause, he countered with clarity that the clause did not apply and Murkomen shut his beak. Need I go on?Damn! Orengo is SHAAAAAAAARP!

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 4 роки тому +1

      @Beautiful Relaxation Music During which elections? My eyes are wide open!

    • @feimohach
      @feimohach 4 роки тому

      Hapa mmechokoza nyuki, wacheni odhis atusomeshe 🤣😂

  • @masangaben7089
    @masangaben7089 3 роки тому +15

    Murkomen always sounds angered in his speechs ...and we expect them to lead the nation come 2022... zii.

  • @TREASUREZION8
    @TREASUREZION8 4 роки тому +4

    Who are you Mr.Orengo to silence the 2 Master Degrees you dont have😜😜😜😜he wasn't Talking to you Kiherehere yako imefanya whole Nation ijue hauna any🤣🤣🤣🤣Am Grateful niko 🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷

    • @gitongakelvin4917
      @gitongakelvin4917 3 роки тому

      What happened to the us embassy on matters of only vetting people of sound mind to cross to their country.

  • @owaruhangajustus4331
    @owaruhangajustus4331 4 роки тому +2

    Experience is the better teacher... Orengo you did u part. Two master's degree don't make u senior to orengo

  • @aarthuranangwe532
    @aarthuranangwe532 4 роки тому +28

    I pitty murkomen... He's so argumentative to the point that he looks more black than before.. One time politician trying to match the country's walking constitution!!!!... Ruto's brigades have been shown what government really is... Orengo don't waste ur time cleaning the swine dirtiness is her happiness

  • @Danjeff22
    @Danjeff22 4 роки тому +27

    Murkomen am a class eight finisher with two cat papers and I have taught seven of my kids good manners, rich people don’t go around telling people they are rich you just suspect them with your two degrees hanging around Oscar Sudi , baba yao and sonko see what you have become

    • @elishanzomo8827
      @elishanzomo8827 4 роки тому

      😂😂😂😂

    • @elishanzomo8827
      @elishanzomo8827 4 роки тому

      😀😀😀

    • @clarissa76
      @clarissa76 4 роки тому

      😂😂😂😂I'm on the floor laughing! It's a pity his 2 Masters depleted his wisdom!

    • @kipropdavid1
      @kipropdavid1 4 роки тому

      Wisdom detected......

    • @jotaya
      @jotaya 4 роки тому

      Daniel Amakobe 😂😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @michaelclive7630
    @michaelclive7630 2 роки тому +4

    M here after the supreme court where Orengo who doesnt have masters degree represented a case in court while murkomen with two masters degree was watching at home😂😂

  • @moregainer
    @moregainer 4 роки тому +39

    One has 2 Masters, the other has none.
    Si amgawie mwenziwe angalau kamoja.

    • @philipochola7585
      @philipochola7585 4 роки тому +2

      Orengo beat Murkomen hands down in this debate......give us a break!

    • @mourinetoniok4871
      @mourinetoniok4871 4 роки тому +1

      He he he he,you are being a brother’s keeper and considerate through sounds hilarious

    • @tiktak1448
      @tiktak1448 4 роки тому +1

      Enyewe uchoyo mbaya unafanya nini na masters mbili mpatie moja pia yeye ajichoche Huyu jamaa murkomen aliruka bet live live sasa amepata dawa yake orengo
      awache hasira
      Hasira hasara tuliza balli kijana
      Here you are dealing with the master of coup uliza weta who is orengo
      weta awezi karibia orengo even he was not in the house
      you cannot argue with him Don,t even try orengo ni kasuku wa kilo mingi
      Kamotho wa odm
      alideal na akina marehemu moi man solo ogopa
      just ignore orengo please

    • @amateyaskote3991
      @amateyaskote3991 4 роки тому +3

      2 masters and he never uttered a word in the case he was bragging about. We should thank covid_19. It has brought the true reality about our Universities education whereby we close them during this pandemic instead of opening for research centers

    • @piarants3958
      @piarants3958 4 роки тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @dankago8668
    @dankago8668 4 роки тому +72

    Degrees are meaningless without wisdom from above

    • @fahadfaraj1822
      @fahadfaraj1822 4 роки тому +2

      Just mere paper that are so called academic certificates, education has to be more than those papers rather it has to reflects, with all those degrees in kenya yet things are almost the same to a normal kenyan at kibera and turkana or kilifi

    • @albertmunyekenye5438
      @albertmunyekenye5438 4 роки тому +3

      Wisdom is the key here

    • @iannowwe
      @iannowwe 4 роки тому +1

      So are you insinuating that Orengo is the wiser man here?

    • @albertmunyekenye5438
      @albertmunyekenye5438 4 роки тому +1

      @@iannowwe correct

    • @reermiiig9543
      @reermiiig9543 4 роки тому +2

      You will not perform and get degree without wisdom

  • @awilly7527
    @awilly7527 4 роки тому +36

    When mutula re-asked orengo's question, Murkomen died🤣

  • @amanimapenzi571
    @amanimapenzi571 2 роки тому +1

    I love this guy......he has the brains

  • @obonyoijohngabriel9672
    @obonyoijohngabriel9672 4 роки тому +28

    Yes Orengo tell that junior murkomen, let him sight any case he has led

    • @wodeyaeric5351
      @wodeyaeric5351 4 роки тому +3

      U r another one. They don't sight. They cite.

    • @agnesereng6044
      @agnesereng6044 4 роки тому

      Obonyoi John Gabriel Orengo ni takata atavuna alichopanda

    • @jeanddrasaotegeka6310
      @jeanddrasaotegeka6310 4 роки тому

      Ukweri kbs

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 4 роки тому

      @@agnesereng6044 Orengo amepanda nini? This is a Jubilee motion to remove a Deputy Speaker that they had sponsored!

  • @akinyiokeyo4618
    @akinyiokeyo4618 4 роки тому +2

    Richard Branson said,hire wiser people than you to work for you....my two cent worth of opinion

  • @omondimusee8868
    @omondimusee8868 4 роки тому +5

    Approach and response by Mutula Kilonzo is the best ever.

  • @martinkahi
    @martinkahi 4 роки тому +6

    Experience is better than masters degrees owned or acguired and with little education you are good

  • @wersonfox6444
    @wersonfox6444 4 роки тому +7

    an old woman has caught feelings here,

  • @vivianhinzano2967
    @vivianhinzano2967 4 роки тому +7

    Naked we come into this world... Naked we leave this world....we have NOTHING to take us with

  • @jembadullahomieri7037
    @jembadullahomieri7037 4 роки тому +17

    Masters mbili bila hekma.Huyu kijana kichwa maji,Bure kabisa.Tuta chunguza mastakabadhi yake tujuwe ukweli wa mambo.

  • @manassehskuria6869
    @manassehskuria6869 4 роки тому +15

    This boy is becoming tiring, I mean he is becoming exe exasperating, I mean childish. No, I mean immature, boring, too much

  • @peternjoroge1793
    @peternjoroge1793 2 роки тому +1

    Am here in support of murkomen he is a good debater , its unethical to diminish someone academic

  • @muemanzomo8222
    @muemanzomo8222 4 роки тому +24

    Maji hata yakikarangwa hayawezi kuwa matamu kushinda nyama

  • @alfredokubo5516
    @alfredokubo5516 4 роки тому +13

    I have 3 and you have 2 Senator Orengo has practiced so long that degrees are bags of wind to him.

  • @murimikaburu1376
    @murimikaburu1376 4 роки тому +36

    2 masters degrees. So what! We have more than that and we are silent

    • @alexwachira3894
      @alexwachira3894 4 роки тому +4

      lol ati more than that and you are silent...boss dont type nonesense nexttime.

    • @weldone1562
      @weldone1562 4 роки тому +1

      Why are u silent?

    • @nickyke8058
      @nickyke8058 4 роки тому

      Jiskize tena😆... Hujui kitu wewe

    • @murimikaburu1376
      @murimikaburu1376 4 роки тому

      @@nickyke8058 ni ukweli, sijui. Lakini nitajua tu kama wewe siku moja

    • @musa2843
      @musa2843 4 роки тому

      @יהושע יהושעAre you telling us you are also troll in your mother's manyatta house

  • @titusokwiri3488
    @titusokwiri3488 4 роки тому +11

    You have 2 degrees and madness inside your head and Orengo is brighter than you in politics

    • @youngeric9928
      @youngeric9928 4 роки тому

      Says a keyboard worrior

    • @nicklemar5054
      @nicklemar5054 4 роки тому

      😂😂😂true

    • @amoskesh1223
      @amoskesh1223 3 роки тому

      Hahaha

    • @HANDOLOH
      @HANDOLOH 3 роки тому

      @@nicklemar5054 it's a fact...education is what you recall from what you learnt Orengo recalls more!! He is brighter!!

  • @rolexlaboso9374
    @rolexlaboso9374 4 роки тому +16

    It’s a kangaroo court... I love it!

  • @Victorian833
    @Victorian833 3 роки тому +1

    Junior council..... that was a sharp reference to murkomen by Orengo

  • @paulpaul3734
    @paulpaul3734 4 роки тому +7

    Bitterness will take you nowhere

  • @kim_kim1144
    @kim_kim1144 4 роки тому +20

    Mr. Murkomen should know that most of his age meets scored A plains, Scored First classes and are now professors. He should be reminded that Mr. Orengo scores second class upper division when maybe the highest qualification in his community was maybe a certificate. This guy should know that pride is at its best when you are about to fall. Respect your elders. many people have better qualification and they do not brag around

  • @obierophill4543
    @obierophill4543 4 роки тому +8

    Murkomen only needed to prove which act he is referring to!!!

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 4 роки тому +1

      And he couldn't because there is none. The fellow had to be taught by Wambua, Orengo and Kilonzo on the floor of the house how to read and interpret the constitution! Ati 2 masters degrees! And he can't read and comprehend the constitution! What a shame!

  • @douglasmunda794
    @douglasmunda794 4 роки тому +2

    Even thermometer has 100 degrees but still work under armpit,,, so he should not tell us ,,,empty debes makes louder noise...

  • @zainababdo1070
    @zainababdo1070 4 роки тому +7

    Murkomen caught by the balls and completely lost it

  • @clonelaboratories9905
    @clonelaboratories9905 10 місяців тому

    Orengo is a powerful lawyer but i respect Murkomen's bravery

  • @alfredokubo5516
    @alfredokubo5516 4 роки тому +11

    Degrees are also pieces of paper. Njenga Karume had none.

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 4 роки тому +1

      And he created employment for several degree holders. Murkomen is a disgrace, not only to Jubilee, but to humanity as whole.

    • @amisi9490
      @amisi9490 4 роки тому

      my brother, umenena.

    • @dankago8668
      @dankago8668 4 роки тому

      That's right my brother

  • @alexmurogo998
    @alexmurogo998 4 роки тому +7

    To be fair Orengo started with the insults questioning Murkomens qualifications and experience as a lawyer. Murkomen came up with a rejoinder.

    • @moha9043
      @moha9043 4 роки тому

      Baba English kwako Ngumu .under standard

    • @alexmurogo998
      @alexmurogo998 4 роки тому +2

      @@moha9043 samahani kiingereza ni lugha yangu ya tatu bado najifunza. Hopefully I'll get better with time.

    • @jotaya
      @jotaya 4 роки тому

      @Alex Murogo What a peaceful answer! Good for you!

    • @engineeringsurveyingsoluti6220
      @engineeringsurveyingsoluti6220 4 роки тому

      @@moha9043 There is nothing like under standard English, it is either standard or non standard.

  • @khamalawilcost9079
    @khamalawilcost9079 5 місяців тому +1

    2024 still watching this interesting episode,brain battles were on top gear😅 . Av learned one thing, education and social aspect of life are two different things. Murkomen is far much a head on legal practice as far as education is concerned unfortunately on the ground it's not about papers but wisdom,Orengo the senior counsel who is behind Murkomen on matters education proofed beyond reasonable doubt that it's not papers but brains

  • @resas_nation210
    @resas_nation210 2 роки тому +2

    They are all governors and your still a senator

  • @kelvin8324
    @kelvin8324 4 роки тому +4

    Speaker Marende we miss you

  • @mcmanu6621
    @mcmanu6621 4 роки тому +20

    Orengo said government eats his own people , now it's the high time (prophet Orengo)🤣🤣🤣💥

    • @danwildlife9491
      @danwildlife9491 4 роки тому

      And they might visit his office to represent them

    • @mcmanu6621
      @mcmanu6621 4 роки тому +3

      @@danwildlife9491 point of correction ,(not they might) but they will visit.

  • @martinschis
    @martinschis 2 роки тому +1

    After listening to Murkomen and Orengo, I understand both men are trying hard to make their points clear to the house. Orengo is not insulating Murkomen, but was trying to tell him that this similar issue relating to removal of deputy speaker. So there is no need to tell the house there should be written notes or letter to the deputy speaker about his removal but his issue is supposed to be discussed in the house with the number of members forming a quorum. Whether Murkomen has 2 degrees and is talking fluently does not give him an edge over Orengo. Orengo is telling him he is a junior lawyer because clearly he is not senior to him with his 2 degrees in the practice of law.

  • @DanielOwinoOgweno
    @DanielOwinoOgweno 4 роки тому +4

    Was Orengo "questioning" Murkomen's education or his (Murkomen's) experience?

  • @hendrickpilisi5157
    @hendrickpilisi5157 2 роки тому +8

    If two Master's and an upper- second class honours degrees are lectured by a lower second class honours, then it implies that whereas the holder of the former is educated, he lacks the learning competence to perform effectively in the career. This is a serious academic gap and he should go back to school. Ironically, with rich endowment of competence and exemplary performance exhibited by holder of lower second class honours, he needs to be honoured.

  • @nzappazapp8360
    @nzappazapp8360 4 роки тому +56

    Passing exams is not equal to brilliance. Achievements, track record, ideas etc are the best measurement of a person's ability. In Kenya you can buy any certificate but you can not buy track record

    • @nyashndosh4792
      @nyashndosh4792 4 роки тому +2

      Wewe mjaluo there is no better way you can protect your less educated representative than trying to lie that two master degrees are equal to form six leaving certificate

    • @nzappazapp8360
      @nzappazapp8360 4 роки тому +3

      @@nyashndosh4792 The truth hurts. If you needed legal representation you find the lawyer that will win not the one that has the most papers

    • @ahmedabdi7208
      @ahmedabdi7208 3 роки тому

      Hi hi babe I

    • @carladede3013
      @carladede3013 3 роки тому

      @@nyashndosh4792 we uko na nini 😂😂😂

    • @grishonnjongo7234
      @grishonnjongo7234 2 роки тому

      Enda nunua hata wewe

  • @gydionkaranja86
    @gydionkaranja86 3 роки тому +7

    What a genius response from Murkomen 💪💪💪

    • @tedomondi2942
      @tedomondi2942 3 роки тому

      we should follow how the constitution says , we are not here to favour anybody , this is for future

    • @tedomondi2942
      @tedomondi2942 3 роки тому

      Degree and he has never won a case in court

  • @empirenn505
    @empirenn505 4 роки тому +3

    🤣🤣🤣😭😭🤣🤣🤣ati he is a very junior person when it comes to war .ingekuwa mi ni murkomen ningemlinga na chupa ya maji..ooooo pole murkomen kula kuburi yako 😭😭🥰🥰😂

  • @ahmedk5064
    @ahmedk5064 4 роки тому +15

    Degrees without wisdom is like a bird with inability to fly and flapping its wing with alot of noise and effort. Murkomen makes alot of directionless of effort.

    • @gideonkipruto9178
      @gideonkipruto9178 3 роки тому

      you're judging basing on your kingpin

    • @HANDOLOH
      @HANDOLOH 3 роки тому

      He is stating a fact of life!!

    • @stephenmwangi6145
      @stephenmwangi6145 2 роки тому

      Murkomen is good in articulating issues than Orengo

  • @jackotieno3817
    @jackotieno3817 4 роки тому +2

    If he doesn't have masters then how did he get his PhD?Just asking from those who know,me I do not even have a KCSE cert.

  • @styvoll2004
    @styvoll2004 5 місяців тому

    Man I miss this senate. These were some great debates!

  • @DrSting-vp3hd
    @DrSting-vp3hd 4 роки тому +36

    The difference between knowledge and wisdom....Murkomen 2 masters and still can't think?? I think he requires like 10 🤣😅🙈

    • @mcmanu6621
      @mcmanu6621 4 роки тому +3

      Even your ruling is a kangaroo one , remember majority wins in such a manor but the minority has the strong point ,"government & revolution eats its own people" so dance the tune.

    • @DrSting-vp3hd
      @DrSting-vp3hd 4 роки тому

      @@mcmanu6621 Murkomen being schooled properly by the senior council....

    • @mcmanu6621
      @mcmanu6621 4 роки тому +3

      @@DrSting-vp3hd murkomen fought like a man.

    • @DrSting-vp3hd
      @DrSting-vp3hd 4 роки тому

      @@mcmanu6621 very true...

    • @newunited7213
      @newunited7213 4 роки тому

      Very true 😂😂😂👍

  • @stedymakarios4804
    @stedymakarios4804 4 роки тому +9

    Murkomen fight in the senate battle with the likes of Orengo na watu wa marakwet wachana Na Raisi wetu Uhuru Kenyatta aunganishe nchi zima iwe kitu kimoja.

  • @afrifire6941
    @afrifire6941 4 роки тому +3

    Murkomen is so bitter. One good reason i can't vote for people aligned to him.

  • @josamkariuki3889
    @josamkariuki3889 4 роки тому +10

    Speaker is biased.. Letting orengo say what he wants and not letting Murkomen hit back

  • @mkaliyani
    @mkaliyani 4 роки тому +11

    When you've been the cock of the walk for the last 7 years it hurts when you've been outmaneuvered. The man's voice cracked a few times and I feel for him

  • @Yegonn
    @Yegonn 2 роки тому

    Murkomen was very sharp in this

  • @somahmed123
    @somahmed123 3 роки тому

    Murkomen has balls.

  • @awilly7527
    @awilly7527 4 роки тому +9

    Listen to mutula junior,wisdom not noise🤔

  • @alexandermutakha882
    @alexandermutakha882 3 роки тому +1

    Why do you have two Masters when one is enough to take you to the next level of specialization?

    • @HANDOLOH
      @HANDOLOH 3 роки тому

      Obviously he cant practilize whatever theory he reafs he needs 10 masters to match Orengo's wisdom!!

  • @tedomondi2942
    @tedomondi2942 3 роки тому +2

    What will Murkomen tell Babu Owino about masters ...

    • @felixamadi200
      @felixamadi200 3 роки тому

      Hehehe, he has also done poor law which he cannot practice; if I was him , I cannot even speak of my stupid 2degrees, waaah which law did he do, if he cannot even understand simple English?

  • @akinyiokeyo4618
    @akinyiokeyo4618 4 роки тому +7

    Two masters in?Experience goes a long way though,what say you?

  • @kevinongou4026
    @kevinongou4026 2 роки тому

    Mr. Orengo schooled mouthy Professor PLO Lumba, why would Mr. Murkomen be an exception? Has Murkomen ever bothered to know the academic qualifications of the person who awarded the first degree student his degree?

  • @alloycejames5285
    @alloycejames5285 2 роки тому

    Murkomen should know what Orengo did to PLO...experience is the best teacher and Orengo has it..

  • @joycemajala4355
    @joycemajala4355 4 роки тому +8

    Jamani.....corona hii imeleta mambo mengi...2 degrees ...

  • @ojasoojaso9479
    @ojasoojaso9479 4 роки тому +13

    Murkomen with degrees but never won anything in court of appeal. Certificate in his offices but nothing practically. Bure kabisa

    • @nyashndosh4792
      @nyashndosh4792 4 роки тому

      The nullification that orengo claims to have helped NASA to win against uhuru was stage managed. It wasn't raw deal but cooked many years before

    • @Emerge-01
      @Emerge-01 4 роки тому +2

      You haven't enrolled into a university to get a Master's degree, I know you don't know what it's worth 😄

    • @kibuikamwangi17
      @kibuikamwangi17 4 роки тому

      Winning a case in these kenya court won't count anything for me, there have been so many cases of corruption but no one knows how they end up

  • @aurytons
    @aurytons 4 роки тому +13

    Murkomen💯

  • @leonardkipuno4997
    @leonardkipuno4997 4 роки тому +2

    I don't think why this guys should be discussing what has been predetermined..useless .Ruto should either agree or directly go against

  • @dayahkibadeni185
    @dayahkibadeni185 4 роки тому +4

    I love murkomen very sober guy and he don't care