"it communicates total control. it says, 'not only do i have the ability to score here, but i have such an immense amount of skill, that i have the option to show restraint.'" i like that. great line.
Saw George Gervin 3 times live in San Antonio the 82-83 season. He was an amazing player. Hugely underrated because he didn't play in New York, Los Angeles, or Boston.
Yeah, he's pretty good. But do you know who else is pretty good? Producer, writer and presenter of the show Pretty Good, Jon Bois. Seriously though, Jon Bois is the UA-cam God.
As someone who watched Ice during his heydey, as good as compilations like this are, you TRULY can’t appreciate how good he actually was! He could, and DID, score in so many different ways. He wasn’t a shooter, he was a pure scorer, and looked like he was never even trying. It’s a shame his Spurs teams never won it all. They were sublime.
Vachan I miss creative nicknames like “Magic”, The Iceman, The Doctor, Pistol, Muggsy etc. Nowadays it seems like every other guys nickname is just their initials.
@@laconfidential8504 The Klaw, Brow, Unicorn, King, Uncle Drew, The Beard, Greak Freak, Squidward, Donkey from Shrek etc. And now you "The Hatin Reminiscer"
I grew up in Philadelphia in the 70's. Going to the Spectrum to watch the "Iceman" play is the definitive experience that ensured my love of basketball. Regardless of how unstoppable he could be, he just..played. No trash talk, he just ..played. When he was on..didn't matter who tried to guard him. Even now, awe inspiring to watch old tape of him doing his thing on otherwise forgetable Spurs teams in that era.
Some moves just validate the joy of the game- You are a awesome writer and that Kobe videos was absolute masterpiece....No one articulates the culture of Basketball better than you
The finger roll does give the offensive player an advantage in that it can be floated above a taller defender trying to block your shot AND because of the backspin from the "flick" off the finger tips, it's a very soft shot that can roll around around the rim and go in. That finger roll was so nice for Ice that defenders had to pay the price.💪
In my days of playing youth basketball, I loved using this as a finish, especially with a hand switch. I'd watch players like Rod Strickland, Stephon Marbury and Allen Iverson show off their dexterity mid-air, and try to emulate it before and after practices. It definitely was a shot to me that said "I'm too smooth for you". Once I learned who George Gervin was, he immediately became of my favorite players of his time. He demonstrated such personality in his game.
In the truest sense of the term dunks aren't "cool". Cool has to be effortless, laid back, even a little detached. Dunks are too agro for that. The finger-roll takes a lot of practice while looking like something you're doing without too much effort.
A history of famous moves would be good content. I would love to see something on kareems sky hook shot. It’s another move lost through the generations.
George Gervin's finger roll was the final unstoppable move by a gifted offensive player. Double-teams and weak-side helpers were often thwarted by his deft movement of the ball. The floater is the small guys go-to now. It mimics Ice's space creating move with almost similar results in the paint.
Fantastic video. It’s amazing how satisfying the finger roll is - it’s just cool. Also, how much have athletes changed in basketball lol? They were like a team of elongated skeletons 😂😂
Sick video. New to the channel . Huge hoops fam but wasn't a witness to this era of ball so it was nice to get a hoops history lesson. Everybody has finger rolled once
Does Ice use the backboard on that shot? I can't tell. Either way, his finger roll is up there with Kareem's sky hook as one of the greatest shots of all time.
Thank you, you explained it perfectly. Young people today don't see how today's players are playing on the shoulder of the past. Today's players have skills but yesterday's players invented the moves!
The Iceman didn't invent the finger roll, he just perfected it. Manu didn't invent the euro step, he just perfected it. Manu didn't invent the flop, he just perfected it. :)
"it communicates total control. it says, 'not only do i have the ability to score here, but i have such an immense amount of skill, that i have the option to show restraint.'"
i like that. great line.
jadenxkoren I was gonna comment that too. The way Kyle talks and his script writing is so unmatched
That was a beautiful line indeed.
This Mann kills it everytime... We NEED more!!!
Undefeated
MOOOOOOOOORE
That was cool!
Saw George Gervin 3 times live in San Antonio the 82-83 season. He was an amazing player. Hugely underrated because he didn't play in New York, Los Angeles, or Boston.
J. Kyle Mann is my favourite creator on youtube right now. Everything he does awesome.
Paul Whitehead he’s like Nerdwriter but for hoops
Facts
I couldn't agree more even if I tried.
Yeah, he's pretty good. But do you know who else is pretty good? Producer, writer and presenter of the show Pretty Good, Jon Bois.
Seriously though, Jon Bois is the UA-cam God.
As someone who watched Ice during his heydey, as good as compilations like this are, you TRULY can’t appreciate how good he actually was! He could, and DID, score in so many different ways. He wasn’t a shooter, he was a pure scorer, and looked like he was never even trying. It’s a shame his Spurs teams never won it all. They were sublime.
He was also a shooter
Bill Simmons, FEED THIS MAN.
Maybe a similar video on Kareem's skyhook and why no one uses it. Love the videos as always.
@Tong Zou it didn't when I made the comment Tong.
George Gervin's finger roll. Two words. Silky smooth.
Ice / Iceman top tier nickname in basketball history
Black Mamba for Kobe as well..
Up there with The Doctor or Dr
Vachan I miss creative nicknames like “Magic”, The Iceman, The Doctor, Pistol, Muggsy etc. Nowadays it seems like every other guys nickname is just their initials.
@@laconfidential8504 I think such nicknames recognize originality in skills & style. Most players today pretty much play the same way.
@@laconfidential8504 The Klaw, Brow, Unicorn, King, Uncle Drew, The Beard, Greak Freak, Squidward, Donkey from Shrek etc. And now you "The Hatin Reminiscer"
I grew up in Philadelphia in the 70's. Going to the Spectrum to watch the "Iceman" play is the definitive experience that ensured my love of basketball. Regardless of how unstoppable he could be, he just..played. No trash talk, he just ..played. When he was on..didn't matter who tried to guard him. Even now, awe inspiring to watch old tape of him doing his thing on otherwise forgetable Spurs teams in that era.
Iceman's finger roll was killer, sooo smooth. I also like the Dr's finger roll.
this dude never misses, love his videos
Some moves just validate the joy of the game- You are a awesome writer and that Kobe videos was absolute masterpiece....No one articulates the culture of Basketball better than you
One word to describe the Gervin finger roll
"SMOOTH"
"Let me know if you agree."
The day I disagree with you will be a dark day indeed, J. Kyle Mann
The finger roll does give the offensive player an advantage in that it can be floated above a taller defender trying to block your shot AND because of the backspin from the "flick" off the finger tips, it's a very soft shot that can roll around around the rim and go in. That finger roll was so nice for Ice that defenders had to pay the price.💪
Hope Kyle j Mann gets a Nobel prize for keeping the masses entertained during these trying times
Virtuosic theremin player in traffic . . . that was wonderful
Hearing your voice fills me with this weird calm.
In my days of playing youth basketball, I loved using this as a finish, especially with a hand switch. I'd watch players like Rod Strickland, Stephon Marbury and Allen Iverson show off their dexterity mid-air, and try to emulate it before and after practices. It definitely was a shot to me that said "I'm too smooth for you". Once I learned who George Gervin was, he immediately became of my favorite players of his time. He demonstrated such personality in his game.
Thats that jelly finisher!! The ROOOOOWWW-L.
No
The finger roll is to George Gervin as the Moonwalk is to Michael Jackson
This was so well done. Love for Ice and the roll. Thank you!
In the truest sense of the term dunks aren't "cool". Cool has to be effortless, laid back, even a little detached. Dunks are too agro for that. The finger-roll takes a lot of practice while looking like something you're doing without too much effort.
@@BasketballHighway19 I think he is absolutely correct! Dunks are hot.....Finger Roll is cool
@@vikrantverma1125 agreed, its like russell westbrook aggressiveness vs derrick rose soft touch
@@paulgeorge9228 Paul George is a much better player if you want to see coolness in today's game!
Nobody done it like the iceman smooth that poster is legendary.. until this day
Another gem by the Mann
A history of famous moves would be good content. I would love to see something on kareems sky hook shot. It’s another move lost through the generations.
I am so excited for this series to continue.
George Gervin's finger roll was the final unstoppable move by a gifted offensive player. Double-teams and weak-side helpers were often thwarted by his deft movement of the ball. The floater is the small guys go-to now. It mimics Ice's space creating move with almost similar results in the paint.
Steph Curry should make him proud. His high underhand flip shots over bigs are next level finger roll floaters
💯 one of today’s greatest ambassadors of “touch”
He's an expert. He knows he doesn't get calls so he gets his points anyways.
Gotta love that east coast beat playing throughout the video
WOW, I did not expect to see a casual relation of the finger roll to speedrunning tech in Mario kart.
Nice one
The intro of Winning Time shows a beautiful finger roll by (the TV series) Dr. J. Awesome move for sure.
Kyle, this is just brilliant... took me way back
Steph is definitely the guy that finger rolls the most nowadays, he even does it in his pre game warm up
Fantastic video. It’s amazing how satisfying the finger roll is - it’s just cool. Also, how much have athletes changed in basketball lol?
They were like a team of elongated skeletons 😂😂
Gervin❄️❄️
Nice! Well said...accurate...respectful....had that poster on my wall...Ice was a favorite!
Sick video. New to the channel . Huge hoops fam but wasn't a witness to this era of ball so it was nice to get a hoops history lesson. Everybody has finger rolled once
YES!! This is sick more of thisss!!!
My favorite player to watch. So smooth.
Just know that you’re the best at what you do
Love it. Beautifully written.
This was incredible
Man that intro is dope!!
Woah, am I the only one that caught this epic fail? what's with that finger roll brick from vince carter at 6:43!? Yikes! How can you do VC like that!
lol had two shots. Almost looked like the second failed too (probably went in) 😂😂
Please, more of that kind of videos!
If this series keeps going, please please please do a video on the Shammgod
Please do one video on stepback jumpshot too, would absolutely love it !!!!
Fantastic
Kyle, your analogies are A1. Keep up the amazing work!
Ringer, this is the content I like to see. I’ve plowed through em all though! We need more!!!
wow, this was really well written!
The finger roll has lead to "JELLY" imo
Much Gratitude
Ps The Iceman played on the same team with Dr J in his first season and Jordan in his last season.
some career arc huh? LOL
the finger roll at 0:22 is the best ever and one of the best moves all time.
Does Ice use the backboard on that shot? I can't tell. Either way, his finger roll is up there with Kareem's sky hook as one of the greatest shots of all time.
So smooth
Having big hands is a benefit, but being inventive is the best part.
Need the j Kyle Mann prospect guide for this year’s draft...
Carter's utter fail @ 6:45 is the best thing I've seen all week. Thank you.
Greg Kellog in NBA 2k would love this. “FINISHING WITH THE FINGER LONG!”
i f'ing love this
Dope video.
Awesome video. Ice is SOOOO underrated
I see that you took some moves out of the Jon Bois playbook on that opening animation
SamTheSclam well my wife made it, so that’d be a coincidence
Well, your wife is a great editor! (As someone with a spouse who is also a great editor, great minds think alike.)
Love this, but why they do Vince like that haha
Man I love basketball
Another banger of a video Kyle, THE PEOPLE DEMAND MORE
I’m definitely using the term tuxedo scorer. (I was going to say it to describe Steph’s game, and he pops up as i type this.)
That Theremin player part was genius.
A smoothly executed finger roll is sometimes more exciting than a dunk depending on the context.
Nah
I followed Ice his whole career since February 1973 all the way to the Hall of Fame 1996 I'm 63 years old now I'm often called an old Gervin lol
Excellent video
We need more dime drop !!!
Wow I love that theremin comment
Thank you, you explained it perfectly. Young people today don't see how today's players are playing on the shoulder of the past. Today's players have skills but yesterday's players invented the moves!
Great video
your my fav the ringer associate
PS: next rookie report ?
Wolwerock if you want more of his content, he also goes by the dime drop
@@eliasdiwan4079 i didnt know that , thx
Detroit King High School's very own!
The Iceman didn't invent the finger roll, he just perfected it.
Manu didn't invent the euro step, he just perfected it.
Manu didn't invent the flop, he just perfected it. :)
how about a video on Rodman's boxing out/positioning?
He. Made a killing with his famous bank shot.
THANKS U KYLE J MANN. IM SAYING IT WRONG ON PURPOSE NOW.
Is this the Dime Drop dude?
milksteak hell yea
Was wondering what happened to that channel, smart add by Ringer
the mario kart analogy was so unexpected but strangely fitting.
Ice Man!
This just shows you how great NBA Street Vol. 2 was. They had Connie Hawkins as an unlockable player.
Clyde "the glyde" Drexler had/has a pretty damn good finger roll !
So nobody's gonna talk about 6:43
Can you make more videos like please?
Do you remember Magic ball faking MJ that lead to a finger roll in the All-Star game? Does that count as a finger roll?
1:04 Been around a lot of basketball players and i have never once heard anybody use the term "bucket getter" 😆😆
Zion has a nice power finger roll
what's the music around the 40 second mark?
Go crazy
George Gervin is the Bootsy Collins of Basketball
No one did it like George
Someone needs to tell this guy about the jelly revolution.
Exactly
1:17 what the hell ass DEFense
A smaller version of KD. He could get buckets. I loved the Nike Iceman poster back in the day. Nike before MJ.