@@Avoidling First time tanking in BWL. Razorgore P1 felt hectic for me, to many mobs for Kings so I picked up what I could and BoP'd who I could. -Razorgore himself was very fun. I forced my way into spot 2 for threat over another war and bear, went very well. Lacking FR for vael so I healed on that one. Suppression was scuffed since the mages just blow their load the moment they have mana XD. -Broodlord was a sad time as it appeared that I had second threat but he didnt once turn to me, instead he only aggro'd to our MTwar and OTbear (I was really tryin there, had 8 priests for kings and still couldnt.) Same as Vael, only at 200 FR so I threw my healing gear on for Firemaw. Ebonroc and Flamegor made me realize just how strong taunt really is. Ended both those fights with over 55k threat from kings alone where the MT and OTbear both were about 61k threat apiece. Just couldnt get ahold of either drake. Chrom I have not studied up on to much to feel comfortable fighting him. Threw on healing gear and began the wonderful life of Dispelling and dispelling and dispelling. Nef was fun. Couple of times I noticed I was lit. about to rip threat off our MT so I pumped the brakes. Picked up the skele's with no issue. The begining drakes were also not as big of an issue as I thought they would be. Overall, the positive vibes my guild was throwing me was really great to have. The GM and officers (and alot of my guild) have been very supportive of my main switch from lock to tankadin and I have been feeling like I did back in vanilla when everything felt new and exciting to play. Counting myself lucky to have a guild like this. Wish WoWlogs would of picked up more of that I did and I am not 100% sure how to gauge myself from WoWlogs but I linked it below and I am playing as Asperity. classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JgXTWbQL62dDPhAt Stoked to do new and creative things like this.
I consider there r 3 weapons any prot paladin must get. Quelserrar Flurry axe Any spellpower weapon Depends on what situation you are in, i think when trash you should use spell power weapon (bis lokamir) For bosses flurry axe to generate threat by recovering mana in longer fights Quelserrar more like for off tanking big adds or bosses
I dont think we will ever be able to tank without GBoK. At least not if you want to stay competitive. It's just too much of our overall threat from that one skill that you just cant make up for the threat with spellpower stacking, even with Exorcism. GBoK just works so well in raids so we just have to keep using it. At least we get to tank properly this way rather than relying on the raid to work around our subpar threat generation from our other abilities.
I tank ZGs pretty well as a paladin, but haven't tried MC yet (my paladin is my alt). What gear are you using? I saw flurry axe and a few other things, but not everything. Great video all around. I was waiting for the part with Ebonroc because I didn't see how that could work, and apparently you couldn't either :-(. Is Chromaggus possible with GBoK spam or is the holy resistance too much?
My gear is Bloodcaller / flurry axe / Bloodlord's defender Aegis of the Blood God / Ubrs shield from drak Judgement Helm with ZG enchant Ony neck Lawbringer shoulders Deathbone chest Fel Hardened Bracers Deathbone belt some cape with 17 stam on it / Ony cape Lawbringer boots / Bloodsoaked boots bloodsoaked gauntlets Overlord's crimson band Will of the Martyr ZHC (spell power one) / Burst of Knowledge Force of Will … Is this good enough for 40 mans?
Really nice videos man! Is there a way you can link me your build in some sort of a gear planner link? I am currently exploring prot paladins and I am interested in your mix of defensive and spell power ideas :) Keep up with the good work!
Thanks for the full run, really nice video! One question - in the Nefarian fight you drop down in the threat meter pretty fast, but the boss keeps attacking you. Is this only a threat meter display error or is there something other going on that I miss?
Hungering Cold beats it pretty hard from what I can tell, and Thunderfury is going to be better on almost any fight. But apart from those weapons which are both quite unrealistic to obtain then I havent found anything that perform better than Flurry when it comes to raw TPS. Especially on longer bossfights.
Holyfrog thanks for the reply! Ill save up for 1, also did you try using seal of light and JoL, with tier 1 set? I think it is modified with healing gear, im not sure how much threat it generates with each heal. Since our tier 3 is full on healing no spell damage in it, might scale later on. Good sustain to i guess
@@Avoidling #showtooltip greater blessing of kings /click PallyPowerC1 LeftButton Down C1 - C8 for whatever class you want, i have a macro for each class and a action bar right next to my Pallypower to very easily see what class corresponds to the given macro, then just add a keybind :)
@@simonsolheim158 Im aware. Been writing about this macro in the discords but its unreliable and doesnt always work because it relies on the autotargeting function which is disabled in combat.
@@jcai4824 You can use Greater Blessing of Sanctuary and the 5minute version at the same time if they are cast by different Paladins. But because the game only allow you to use 32 total buffs, I cannot use this in raids because there are other buffs that are more powerful for me.
+30 Spellpower. But in BWL this rarely does anything for me since I often just use Seal of Wisdom anyway. If I didnt already have 30 SP I would just put 22 intellect on it.
@@Unyusha Holy Shield scalins is 5% of Spellpower, and on top of that it rely on you blocking an attack to even do anything. I dont consider it very valuable for Holy Shield scaling
After being told over and over that I have nothing to do as Prot Pally in BWL, this was a refreshing video. Thanks! :)
Very nice! :)
Any chance of a followup video where you explain gear choices and so on?
keep coming back for the music playlist , amazing vid
Very beatiful tanking.Iam happy that not all players are metaslaves like" WArRIoR iS oNLY ONe GOoD tannnKkk!!!11!!"
Great job at representing tankadins! And choice of background track just epic!
Just got done tanking BWL on my paladin. Perfect timing to see how you do it!
How did that go? Let me hear it :)
@@Avoidling First time tanking in BWL. Razorgore P1 felt hectic for me, to many mobs for Kings so I picked up what I could and BoP'd who I could.
-Razorgore himself was very fun. I forced my way into spot 2 for threat over another war and bear, went very well. Lacking FR for vael so I healed on that one. Suppression was scuffed since the mages just blow their load the moment they have mana XD.
-Broodlord was a sad time as it appeared that I had second threat but he didnt once turn to me, instead he only aggro'd to our MTwar and OTbear (I was really tryin there, had 8 priests for kings and still couldnt.)
Same as Vael, only at 200 FR so I threw my healing gear on for Firemaw. Ebonroc and Flamegor made me realize just how strong taunt really is. Ended both those fights with over 55k threat from kings alone where the MT and OTbear both were about 61k threat apiece. Just couldnt get ahold of either drake.
Chrom I have not studied up on to much to feel comfortable fighting him. Threw on healing gear and began the wonderful life of Dispelling and dispelling and dispelling.
Nef was fun. Couple of times I noticed I was lit. about to rip threat off our MT so I pumped the brakes. Picked up the skele's with no issue. The begining drakes were also not as big of an issue as I thought they would be.
Overall, the positive vibes my guild was throwing me was really great to have. The GM and officers (and alot of my guild) have been very supportive of my main switch from lock to tankadin and I have been feeling like I did back in vanilla when everything felt new and exciting to play. Counting myself lucky to have a guild like this. Wish WoWlogs would of picked up more of that I did and I am not 100% sure how to gauge myself from WoWlogs but I linked it below and I am playing as Asperity.
classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JgXTWbQL62dDPhAt
Stoked to do new and creative things like this.
Could you link your gear please?
its pretty nice to see a paladin tanking pretty well, i'd like to know your talent tree, ive been having doubts about what talents i should pick
pally tank, moonkin, shadow priest... i like your guild!!!
haha, love the music ! :D You saved Sphongle for Nefy.
I am jealous. What a fast bwl clear
What is the BiS weapons for paladins now? And why?
I consider there r 3 weapons any prot paladin must get.
Quelserrar
Flurry axe
Any spellpower weapon
Depends on what situation you are in, i think when trash you should use spell power weapon (bis lokamir)
For bosses flurry axe to generate threat by recovering mana in longer fights
Quelserrar more like for off tanking big adds or bosses
Holyfrog and Judgement in the same raid? OP
I dont think we will ever be able to tank without GBoK. At least not if you want to stay competitive. It's just too much of our overall threat from that one skill that you just cant make up for the threat with spellpower stacking, even with Exorcism. GBoK just works so well in raids so we just have to keep using it. At least we get to tank properly this way rather than relying on the raid to work around our subpar threat generation from our other abilities.
I tank ZGs pretty well as a paladin, but haven't tried MC yet (my paladin is my alt).
What gear are you using? I saw flurry axe and a few other things, but not everything.
Great video all around.
I was waiting for the part with Ebonroc because I didn't see how that could work, and apparently you couldn't either :-(. Is Chromaggus possible with GBoK spam or is the holy resistance too much?
My gear is
Bloodcaller / flurry axe / Bloodlord's defender
Aegis of the Blood God / Ubrs shield from drak
Judgement Helm with ZG enchant
Ony neck
Lawbringer shoulders
Deathbone chest
Fel Hardened Bracers
Deathbone belt
some cape with 17 stam on it / Ony cape
Lawbringer boots / Bloodsoaked boots
bloodsoaked gauntlets
Overlord's crimson band
Will of the Martyr
ZHC (spell power one) / Burst of Knowledge
Force of Will
…
Is this good enough for 40 mans?
great job tanking! what is the add on that shows you threat above the mob with different colors?
Really nice videos man! Is there a way you can link me your build in some sort of a gear planner link? I am currently exploring prot paladins and I am interested in your mix of defensive and spell power ideas :) Keep up with the good work!
Whats is the spell u spam in Nefarian? Insane video hope some day people let me tank as paladin
Casting GBoK to gain threat from the cast
Hello, how come is nefarian hitting you whilst you're not on top of his threat table?
Thanks for the full run, really nice video! One question - in the Nefarian fight you drop down in the threat meter pretty fast, but the boss keeps attacking you. Is this only a threat meter display error or is there something other going on that I miss?
Threat meters are just very unreliable at tracking Blessing threat. I use the weakaura to give me a better idea of where my threat stand.
whats the song at the beginning? i hear the man with the harmonica!
Is Flurry Axe BIS forever in prot paladin? in tanking boss and single adds?
Hungering Cold beats it pretty hard from what I can tell, and Thunderfury is going to be better on almost any fight. But apart from those weapons which are both quite unrealistic to obtain then I havent found anything that perform better than Flurry when it comes to raw TPS. Especially on longer bossfights.
Holyfrog thanks for the reply! Ill save up for 1, also did you try using seal of light and JoL, with tier 1 set? I think it is modified with healing gear, im not sure how much threat it generates with each heal. Since our tier 3 is full on healing no spell damage in it, might scale later on. Good sustain to i guess
That's for a dwarf. But what about humans?
I'm intrigued about why you don't use raid frames as a Paladin, what happens if you have to dispell the raid or something?
Hehe I actually use them. I just have an ultrawide monitor, and my frames are outside the recorded game area
Is your GBoK keybind anything special? I've been tanking MC in my guild alt raids and clicking on pallypower is annoying lol
Not really. It just casts GBoK on myself. I use it whenever we have a lot of Paladins in the raid, otherwise I need to click on Pallypower aswell.
@@Avoidling
#showtooltip greater blessing of kings
/click PallyPowerC1 LeftButton Down
C1 - C8 for whatever class you want, i have a macro for each class and a action bar right next to my Pallypower to very easily see what class corresponds to the given macro, then just add a keybind :)
@@simonsolheim158 Im aware. Been writing about this macro in the discords but its unreliable and doesnt always work because it relies on the autotargeting function which is disabled in combat.
@@Avoidling Yeah now that i came to think about it may have been you who told me about it in the first place x)
Hey bro do u know of the double blessing of sanctuary trick
????
Yeah I do. Cant use it because of buffcap issues now that ZG is out though.
Do you mind elaborating on this? I'm also playing a prot Pal and curious about this.
@@jcai4824 You can use Greater Blessing of Sanctuary and the 5minute version at the same time if they are cast by different Paladins.
But because the game only allow you to use 32 total buffs, I cannot use this in raids because there are other buffs that are more powerful for me.
What enchant are u using on flurry axe?
+30 Spellpower. But in BWL this rarely does anything for me since I often just use Seal of Wisdom anyway. If I didnt already have 30 SP I would just put 22 intellect on it.
@@Avoidling spell power buff your holy shield. ua-cam.com/video/SaOFEaOTMkk/v-deo.html say TF better lifestealing or 30 spd.
@@Unyusha Holy Shield scalins is 5% of Spellpower, and on top of that it rely on you blocking an attack to even do anything. I dont consider it very valuable for Holy Shield scaling
might want to position yourself better on chrom so you don't attack from the front and get parries
That threat gen is horrible.....