Wow. The "Secret Ending" in which we were all played and never made any difference because the 'Illuminati' [Executors] directed the entire (series) history of Thedas. Thanks for showing this!!
@ThatFont Yeah, it could potentially be a wonderful story. Laysh has a port -- or once was a port town, which largely fell to ruin after the Third Blight but not, due to darkspawn. Laysh received ships from across the Volca Sea, cargo vessels with wares and spices from outside Thedas. It was lucrative enough in such harsh territory, until the traders stopped coming early in the Black Age. Ander legend called these traders Voshai. They were hostile to the people of Laysh, uninterested in learning the king’s tongue for anything more than barter. Apparently their is no Blight in their land. They came to Thedas to get lyrium. It may be possible that the Executors are from there and that whoever oversaw Thedosian history could give us a fresh start (new games). They may have been trying to help Thedas survive all along, and so they helped shape everything for our heroes. (tinfoil hat that is not unfounded). *EDIT: More recently, there have been reports that the Voshai have returned to Laysh, telling tales of a "massive cataclysm" in their homeland. However, the accuracy of these reports is questionable.[1] The order of the Green Men, founded in the honor of a hero of the First Blight, leads caravans through the Wandering Hills to Laysh and comprise the best marksmen in Thedas. *Also See: Codex- A Moldy Journal
Ah, just like how in Shadowlands, the newest antagonist turned(retconned into) out to have been influencing everything since dawn of WoW lore. Taking away all agency and building from previous events. "Twas all planned" nonsense.
@@helgakir7118 Regardless, the way they were shown here is just like in Shadowlands. Some "great ancient ebil" influencing everything that ever happened in lore and in turn ruining and cheapening good lore. It's just a hack from "writers" nowadays to painfully graft their bad writing into good old writing, to somehow "expand upon it". I've seen it before, i know to recognize trash now when i see it.
I would kindly ask that you use the word narrative instead of lore. Cause Shadowlands lore was cool as hell. The narrative though, aside for the two-three moments was a shitshow
@@Dreambinder_ It wasn't grand at all. Story focing on afterlife lore, is usually just the second cousin of time travel plots. Since Warlords of Draenor used time travel stuff for "reasons", they couldn't call back upon it. They're there when writers are the end of writing anything else interesting, so they bring some of the old characters for cheap reactions, (and considering how Shadowlands ended, it was there to riff on Arthas, who build WoW into what it was, since fanfiction writers in charge of WoW current writing, couldn't handle someone upstaging their queen). I'd say time travel, afterlife lore, are just some of the stuff that should be used incredibly rarely, along with "5-6th+ sequel revealing this huge, eldrich ebil, that undermines all good character writing cuz of reasons". Just let the plot go forward, bring new characters that stand on their own, and if you must reveal a grand manipulator, don't bring in the 5D chess dude, unless you absolutely must.
They’re implied to be executors which were kind of a deep cut shadowy organization from beyond the sea who only appeared in two war table missions in Inquisition IIRC
@@43ly51um ah I see. Lots of the other lore nerds are pretty mad with this but haven't they been subtlety hinting at lizard people for awhile now? Or are the executors completely different from the lizard people?
@@SapphicMysterie they said so many things before launch that were untrue though. did the DLC's for DAI were announced during or right after DAI's launch?
You are definitely an iconic part of the Playstation community. Thank you for your efforts
Wow. The "Secret Ending" in which we were all played and never made any difference because the 'Illuminati' [Executors] directed the entire (series) history of Thedas. Thanks for showing this!!
That’s not how I interpret that at all, but ok.
@ThatFont Yeah, it could potentially be a wonderful story. Laysh has a port -- or once was a port town, which largely fell to ruin after the Third Blight but not, due to darkspawn. Laysh received ships from across the Volca Sea, cargo vessels with wares and spices from outside Thedas. It was lucrative enough in such harsh territory, until the traders stopped coming early in the Black Age.
Ander legend called these traders Voshai. They were hostile to the people of Laysh, uninterested in learning the king’s tongue for anything more than barter. Apparently their is no Blight in their land. They came to Thedas to get lyrium.
It may be possible that the Executors are from there and that whoever oversaw Thedosian history could give us a fresh start (new games). They may have been trying to help Thedas survive all along, and so they helped shape everything for our heroes. (tinfoil hat that is not unfounded).
*EDIT:
More recently, there have been reports that the Voshai have returned to Laysh, telling tales of a "massive cataclysm" in their homeland. However, the accuracy of these reports is questionable.[1]
The order of the Green Men, founded in the honor of a hero of the First Blight, leads caravans through the Wandering Hills to Laysh and comprise the best marksmen in Thedas.
*Also See:
Codex- A Moldy Journal
Bioware really looked at Shadowlands lore and thought "hey that's pretty cool". I can't even kek
Ah, just like how in Shadowlands, the newest antagonist turned(retconned into) out to have been influencing everything since dawn of WoW lore.
Taking away all agency and building from previous events. "Twas all planned" nonsense.
The Executors were mentioned in DAI. They should've done this game sooner to stay fresh.
@@helgakir7118 Regardless, the way they were shown here is just like in Shadowlands. Some "great ancient ebil" influencing everything that ever happened in lore and in turn ruining and cheapening good lore.
It's just a hack from "writers" nowadays to painfully graft their bad writing into good old writing, to somehow "expand upon it".
I've seen it before, i know to recognize trash now when i see it.
I would kindly ask that you use the word narrative instead of lore. Cause Shadowlands lore was cool as hell. The narrative though, aside for the two-three moments was a shitshow
@@Dreambinder_ It wasn't grand at all. Story focing on afterlife lore, is usually just the second cousin of time travel plots.
Since Warlords of Draenor used time travel stuff for "reasons", they couldn't call back upon it.
They're there when writers are the end of writing anything else interesting, so they bring some of the old characters for cheap reactions, (and considering how Shadowlands ended, it was there to riff on Arthas, who build WoW into what it was, since fanfiction writers in charge of WoW current writing, couldn't handle someone upstaging their queen).
I'd say time travel, afterlife lore, are just some of the stuff that should be used incredibly rarely, along with "5-6th+ sequel revealing this huge, eldrich ebil, that undermines all good character writing cuz of reasons".
Just let the plot go forward, bring new characters that stand on their own, and if you must reveal a grand manipulator, don't bring in the 5D chess dude, unless you absolutely must.
PowerPyx I have a question: why did you constantly updated the Metaphor guide? it has been constant for me now I’m confused on what to do next
The lore is pretty extensive so I'm here others know it better - but could these figures be the Forgotten Ones?
They’re implied to be executors which were kind of a deep cut shadowy organization from beyond the sea who only appeared in two war table missions in Inquisition IIRC
In those missions inquisition gave them a bloody nose and they said they were retreating @@43ly51um
@@43ly51um ah I see. Lots of the other lore nerds are pretty mad with this but haven't they been subtlety hinting at lizard people for awhile now? Or are the executors completely different from the lizard people?
Hi. Please show all Solas memories. Like A Memory of an Old Friend and more.
alright, that will be a DLC. Hopefully it'll be better written if they do it.
There won't be any dlc for veilguard, been confirmed since a week or so.
@@SapphicMysterie they said so many things before launch that were untrue though. did the DLC's for DAI were announced during or right after DAI's launch?
@Abimin100 this was after launch with the reason being that everyone gets pulled to work on mass effect 5.
@@SapphicMysterie we'll see. so far Bioware has lied and told half-truths too many times to believe anything they say.
Oh Bioware. From spearheading the industry to following trends.