For me, the shocking moments didn't leave the most impact on me, it was instead the moments when Jude was receiving a lot of love and care from this friends and families and his thoughts in between that left me in tears.
People need to let go of the desire of satisfaction at the end of a book. You don’t always need to be rewarded a happy ending, sometimes things are just meant to be felt. Making the statement that trauma like this isn’t real is so unreal in itself. I knew someone just like Jude and may God rest his soul, but sometimes things are never ending. This was a tragic story, but a good read. Sometimes a story doesn’t need a clear plot just good characters and this is it.
it’s not even about that. it’s the fact that this book is even allowed to be published and promoted to very young innocent teens and adults. This book is more than just a sad story, it’s literally traumatising and way too graphic. It’s genuinely fucked up.
@@Iloveyourmum6972 of course people are going to be destroyed after reading this in someway. as desja stated earlier, if people really expect happy endings or at least a positive satisfaction while indulging in this story needs a reality check. the book was intended to make people uncomfortable and it is fucked - the way Jude went out and (thinking beyond this story) the way people have been through the same things he went through or even the unspeakable. i assume that this book wasn't targeted to only a younger audience nor demographic - trigger warnings are also involved and mentioned numerous times so readers SHOULD know what they are getting into. but then again, this book isn't for everybody and everyone's opinion towards a little life is valid.
The emptiness and loneliness and hopelessness and all of the sadness Jude experienced when Willem passed away is so intense and vivid, more intense than the pain he went through when he was abused. I cried so much after Willem's death, seeing how Jude was tryingso hard to maintain his memories vivid... it was the most emotional part of the book to me, and I don't know how Jude was able to handle that emptiness for so long. This book is a masterpiece
Completely agree! The true emptiness of his being as if his soul was sucked away when Willem is killed. It is the most beautiful and painful part of the book.
Yes, I agree. The abuse scenes made me feel angry towards the abusers and to somehow want to be proactive and 'rescue' Jude (legally/physically) from each awful childhood/adolescent/disabled adult rape/abusive situation. Willem's death and Jude's intense grief (smelling Willem's perfumes and seeking comfort in his clothing for some remaining essence) and the hollowness of searching for someone who is no longer there, was realistically and intensly depicted.
“You are trespassing into someone else’s most intimate moment” I honestly can’t agree more when reading this story. Jude’s story particularly and Especially with the happy years. I felt I shouldn’t even be reading the parts and how Willem and Jude struggled in their relationship. It’s so private and honest it was painful to witness.
Jude, the patron saint of lost causes. I have never read a character so tangible as him. He will stick with me forever. I met Jude five years ago, and still, he haunts me in the best ways.
Unlike many regrets I have with my life, I only regret Harold being left thinking what he did wrong.. he can work it out by himself tho.. he's the only stable one.
as i read the book, i found myself thinking that it was unnecessary trauma in too graphic of detail throughout the story, that it was overdone and almost too pensive. and then after i finished, i thought about willem and jude's friendship for maybe the week after, every day. it was all that was on my mind. and i realized that the book isn't about jude, or willem, or any of the problems they face- it's about taking time to enjoy friendships and life, even if there's no happy ending. ALL is one of my favorite reads now.
I hate when people think it's "too much trauma". Like you read the trigger warnings, did you expect it wouldn't be heartbreaking? People think talking about trauma isnt hard or that it shouldn't be talked about at all. We need to tackle the hard things.
@@RED-my9hl not in this way when Yanagihara didn't even do her research about mental health, doesn't believe in therapy and thinks Trigger Warnings are not necessary.
I didn't have the heart to read the last few chapters of this book. I was so broken, so torn up. Jude St. Francis sometimes crosses my mind and I'd have nothing but tears.
When she speaks about how marriage has not always been with a person you choose, but friendship is undoubtedly a relationship you choose - you make the decision to surround yourself with this person for no ulterior reason, for no reason other than the pleasure you derive from each other - I am reminded of what struck me so heavily the first time I read the book, and what has brought me back to it each and every time.
I can’t believe she wrote it that fast WHILE WORKING! It must have been a real work from the soul. It felt like a work from the soul. Omg. It was crazy good and crazy sad
I think she wrote the book how we read it, she couldn’t not write it once she had the storyline just like we couldn’t put it down when we first start reading it
She's been planning the book since she was twenty six so we can say the book existed in bits and pieces before she finally sat down to write the finished and final draft.
(TW!) I'm gonna be honest; this book triggered my suicidal thoughts and I literally tried to end my life after I read it. I obviously wasn't doing fine emotionally back then, but I wish I hadn't read it being depressed, I wish I could read it now, but I am so afraid of it that I can't even try to think about the main characters without shivering. I wouldn't recommend it to people with a bad mental state. However, if you know what you're getting into and you're not scared to be emotionally affected, then go ahead, it really is a beautiful book.
I think some people are too attached to the idea it always gets better, it doesn’t. That’s real for a lot of people but also that’s something that we all feel, without knowing what the future holds things can feel like it won’t get better. That’s valid
I totally agree. But it can be also very problematic because it can or may seem to people who share judes trauma or suffer from the same illnesses or struggles that it will not get better and that is very much not true and can give a wrong message to people.
This book made me go from not reading at all to 200 pages a day. I'm still not sure how I feel about this book, but I treasure it for the impact it had on me. I read constantly now.
Here's my question- why did JB kiss Jude?? And further into that spiral: did he think of Jude of more than a friend? Finally, a statement: I will sell my soul to own *Jude With A Cigarette*!!!!
JB was always attracted to Jude, its said explicitly in the book multiple times, they say in the book that JB kissed Jude just to see what it would be like and neither of them enjoyed it.
Spoilers: That is one of the moment I believe that were unnecessary because from what I understood JB wasn’t attracted to Jude but to Willem. JB was just triggered about Jude because really he never gets to know him. I believe that the ending would have been the same without making JB kiss Jude as their friendship was never truly restored.
I think what "stays with" one about this book, is the soul destroying effect of child sexual abuse. I don't like to say it was a "fun" read, but I thoroughly enjoyed the experience.
Physical & mental abuse as well. I’ll go so far as to say if the sexual abuse was taken away, it still would have been a hellish childhood. All the beatings and chastisements.
@@rlfolder5437 Yes, when Jude causes the mug Jacob made to break because he thinks Harold's playful lunge is a violent act. Likewise, when Caleb first hit him across the face he finds some 'solace' in the cruel action and 'expects to be hit'. It is the idea that because of past physical and mental abuse Jude is in wonder, especially earlier in the novel, when the adult males he knows don't hit him yet he expects them to. I found the scene when he is fourteen and tries to run away by hiding in the rebuilt cavity wall in the college and is found then climbs into the car, the 'cruelest' counselor is waiting for him, then punches Jude in the mouth and nose and Jude's own blood is described as 'nourishing... soup' - a really disturbing and pitiful scene.
Despite being a frequent reader, I always had difficulty connecting to books I read and find myself becoming extremely bored or tired from so many books. A Little Life opened so many dark doors I did not even know existed in my life, and become completely immersed within the world Hanya created. It has been months since I have read this novel and I am still craving for a book that creates the same dark, dense, layered connection. This story was so sadly inexplicable, yet I creepily want to read more books that make me feel this strange pain.
I recomend to you Neapolitan Novels by Elena Ferrante then. The pain I was left with after reading A little life reminded me of pain I felt after finishing that series. They're completely different stories, but what they have in common is that they both deal with the subject of violence and how it affects people also leaving reader crushed after the lecture. It isn't as graphic as ALL, but it's still a very powerful story.
This book took me 2weeks to finish (I have kids, you know what it's like) - HOW did the woman finish it in a NIGHT?! I felt like the length of the book, how detailed it was made it more intimate, like I was sitting right behind Jude and witnessing his life.
Hi.. I'm a mom as well and I've been reading this book for almost a week.. I'm so eager to know what is going to happen that every time I have to put it down I feel mad 😂
01:20 Reading A Little Life in one night IS POSSIBLE. For those of you who put harsh comments, here’s my explanation. The host said, her friend read from 3pm to 3am. My hardcover copy is 720 pages. 720 pages : 12 hours = 60 So it’s like 60 pages/hour or 1 page/minute. Remember, it’s not really 720 pages, because there are some blank pages or title pages. If you’re reading A Little Life book in your native language, you barely have reading disability and a fast reader in general, then reading 1 page/minute IS TOTALLY POSSIBLE. Even 2 pages/minute is still possible. How about eating or bathroom break? Easy. Can rest, of course. But another option: AUDIOBOOK. Some readers like to listen to audiobook to 2x-2.5x speed, so it could cut more times. The thing is, us, as avid readers, once we love a book, we can read it so fast like crazy but still comprehend the book itself. Have you heard challenge like “24 hours readathlon” and 1 person can read 5 books (with average 300 pages)? Yeah... So, before accusing someone is lying for reading 700 pages book, maybe break down how it could be possible first. Thank you for coming to my T*D talk.
It's not that she's lying, is that how can someone grasp the full essence of a 700 page book when read in one night. It is indeed possible but you need time to process/ponder on what you've read. Otherwise you'll forget what you've read in 2 days.
This is an amazingly well writing book. It is also the worse book I've ever read and from what I've read of the author, she is either a bad writer or a bad person. This is not a heartbreaking look into trauma, this is a cliched and harmful message that suicide, self harm, and toxic relationships are the only answer.
I think this book have amazing life lessons but people just think about how sad it is! this book straight up tells you the point of life is to be a good friend and feeling proud of one's life
None of them was a good friend to him though if you see the story critically. In fact they all let him down in more ways than one through their toxic positivity.
as much as i loved this book, it impacted my mental health immensely. yes, i did read the trigger warnings and for the most part, i knew how the book would end and that it wouldn't be happy. but actually reading and experiencing the pain that jude went through was likely the most detailed, disturbing, and emotionally unsettling feeling ive ever felt. the ending somehow did not make me cry even though i felt like i wanted to cry for days, weeks after i finished. not long after reading this book, i (selfishly) relapsed. i cant exactly say why, the trauma i experienced was no where near as awful as what jude had to go through, but i still felt a sort of connection to him. the pages describing his self harm felt all too real, perfectly described the emotions (or lack thereof) that come from such self harm. all in all it was a both beautiful, yet heartbreaking story to read. some days i wish i never picked up the book and others i feel overwhelmingly grateful that i did. i think this book will stick with me for many many years to come. im not sure how im going to recover from reading this honestly lol. its tragic, yet realistic. i wish everyone who has read this book, went through what jude did or had to help a "jude" of their own, the absolute best. sometimes these awful things dont happen for a particular reason. you arent being punished and it is not your fault. there are cruel people in this world. and all we can do is try to help, care for, love, and understand each other, and thats enough. because it will get better. you may not believe it now, or ever, but you have to keep pushing through. dont hesitate to reach out, whether it be to a friend, family member, a random person on the internet. you are needed here.
Really, really well said. I just finished reading and it’s scary how easily you can relate to every character or how they feel. Wish you the best and hope you’re doing great too!
How can I even begin to describe the book that has haunted me for months after reading it? It's genuinely one of the best and worst books I've ever read, I love it with my whole heart but it also shatters it into tiny pieces. I can't move on from it.
I finished the book yesterday and yet I find myself crying at random moments throughout the day by just thinking of the book 😭💔😪 Jude St. Francis I will always love you forever 🤍🕊️
Came here after finishing the book and I managed to go most the book without crying, but those last few pages. I cried for him and I cried for anyone who has ever believed the lies of their abusers.
I loved this book. Have read it three times now and have been moved every time. Beautiful characters and so very well described. Thank you for a portrait of lovely characters. Christopher Australia
Hanya Yanagihara, I think you may have just written one of my favourite books of all time. Thank you for making all the effort, your book is completely amazing. 😊📖❤️
Can someone please argue with me on this, am I the only who finds it problematic that she did not research regarding self-harm and child molestation? I loved the book, but I do think those triggering parts could have been handled way better
I don't think there's something wrong with those triggering parts she wrote, however I do agree that it's wrong that she didn't do any research on that.
I entirely agree with you. I think there's a lot of responsibility when writing about such delicate topics, and she should have done the research in it to ensure she's not being irresponsable with her portrayal. I'm genuinely curious why she thought research was needed for the professional sections of the boon (law, math, show biz etc) but not for those issues. But then I see she doesn't go to therapy and doesn't believe in it, so I imagine it has something to do with it. I would say she probably thinks research on those two issues is unnecessary, just like therapy is unnecesary, and that she feels confident in portraying those issues just going by the narratives she's been exposed to from people who have gone through that. I don't know what to make of this. She's clearly a very insightful and intelligent woman, but I still think of she respected the seriousness and uniqueness of those issues and the people who suffer from that, she would have taken the time to go deeper in her research of that.
Although having said that, I still think that considering the lack of research on those issues, she still managed to build a realistic portrayal of them. I've seen many comments from people affected by similar past trauma, saying that they approve of the portrayal.
Personally I don't think it matters. As a writer myself I probably would do research but I also recognise that you can't do research on everything. Most people who don't like lack of research seem to just not like subject matter and are justifying it
Finished reading the book last night. The amount of sadness, emptiness, loneliness and anguish I am feeling isn't something I can translate into words.
I just finished reading a little life. The ending of the story makes sense. I don't want to trivialize the s word. Dealing with trauma takes courage and it is challenging. I don't recommend to read this book to people who are also struggling with their mental health. I actually don't know what i am saying, i am still processing the whole story.
I was in a psych ward after a suicide attempt when I was reading this book. I don't think it'd be safe for me to read it outside of the ward in the state of mind I was in, but I'm so thankful I did
Yes then you read or sooo f ast that nothing what uou read stays with you or ........yes liar ....why is it so important to read fast...i read slow but the books i rea d stays with me.....greetings from holland
I don't think it's that big of a stretch. I read about 80 pages an hour, so this book would take me 10/11 hours to read if I'm being generous with time i.e taking breaks, snacking, etc. And I have friends who read 120-150 pages an hour. It's something you can teach yourself to do, although I'm personally fine with where I'm at. If you meant because of how emotional it is it would be very hard to continue reading after certain parts, I can't speak on that. But I do know people who have read it and have pushed passed really hard stuff to finish the book so they didn't have to cry the next day lol.
I really really enjoyed the book. I thought it was really well written, I liked the detailed accounts of the lives of everyone, that we got to know everyone so intimatly. I am however rather disappointed after hearing her say, that she didn't do any type of research into therapy/trauma/self-harm etc. That makes the book for me very hard to judge. As a reader who has not had any of these experiences (thank god) I want to be able to trust the author and to rely on her for information in these areas, especially because the book is written in such a real way. After hearing her say that, I honestly don't know what to think of the book anymore, which I really loved just an hour ago. How do you feel about it?
The saddest part of the book to me, that had me sobbing, was when Willem held Jude in bed and told him "you are Jude and you are..." That speech had me in pieces.
How could the author not do research on pedophilia or cutting and write do expensively? This book can be harmful for many. And she never went to therapy!
She said she "didn't do research" but then described all the survivor testimonies and alluded to people she knew in her personal life that had lived through that. I think that when she hears "research" or says "research" then maybe she thinks of poring over medical journals and that's why she says she dislikes research. But it sounds to me as though she described getting information about this subject with care, respect, and thoroughness...she just won't use the word "research" for that, though.
Couldn’t put it down?! Every time I put this down I had to put so much effort towards picking it back up, which feels like a feat of discipline and commitment. Its detail is what makes it a masterpiece, but by no means was this something that consumed me or stayed up late into the night devouring.
The book was 700+ pages but I felt like I read it so fast. By the time I knew it, I passed page 100, 200, 400, 700. I would say don't let the size intimidate you. The way it hooks ypu makes it feel like its going by faster than a 300 page novel
I love this interview so much! I'm glad that I was really able to get inside the author's mind as to how and why she wrote this book. & I can't wait to see what she has in store for the future!
hope you don’t mind me sharing the following poem, one of my all time favorite meta poetic poems by a poet named “Howard Dull” titled “Suibhne Gheilt” that I recently chanced upon. When I read it, I became speechless. And most of my poetry friends consider this as one of their all time favorites. It was published in a 1970s anthology titled “ Open Poetry” and proves that once Poetry hits you in your heart, , you could be the worst nefarious scoundrel with kings and Empires at your command but you will be transformed and never again return to your previous Self. ~~ Suibhne Gheilt 1 He has haunted me now for over a year that madman Suibhne Gheilt who in the middle of a battle looked up and saw something that made him leap up and fly over swords and trees - a poet gifted above all others - 11 How could a proud loud mouth who yelled KILL KILL KILL as he plowed done the enemy - heads rolling off of his sword - be so lifted up ( or fly up as those below saw it - wings beating) be so suddenly gifted with poetry and nest so high in Ireland’s tall trees? Is there a point where all paths cross? And why am I so drawn to him that all my questions seem shot in his direction? “And they ran into the woods and threw their lances and shot their arrows up through the branches” What parallels could I ever hope to find - my refusal to fight ( weaseling out on psychiatric grounds)? my leaving my country behind? my poetry? “and my wife wept on the path below. . . Oh memory is sweet but sweeter is the sorrel in the pool in the path below” I fly down every night to eat 111 Sweeney like the rest of us would have been better off if he had never anything to do with women. But the point of it lies hidden in a pool of milk in a pile of shit for you to see when a milkmaid smiles Sweeney like the rest of us flies down and when she pours the milk into the hole her heel made in the cowdung Sweeney like the rest of us kneels down and drinks and dies on the horn the cowherd hid in it. So before you have anything to do with women remember Sweeney the bird of Ireland lying on his back in the middle of that path in the moonlight. 1V And on my way home this morning ( my wife waiting) my shadow racing up the path ahead of me I saw something ( a black stone?) thrown at the back of its head ducked and spun around so fast I almost fell down - it was a bird flying up into a tree V No good could come out of this war out of what burns in the heart of our highly disciplined John Q. Killer as a whole village bursts into one flame - the villagers streaming like tears towards the forest cover his helicopter’s blades blow the leaves off and and the flame towards. . . as we sit in front of our bubbles watching our president ( whose bubbletalk no one can escape and he is a little bit mad -calling the reporters in for an interview while he’s sitting on the bubble having a bubble movement) and first lady climb into their big bubble bed an Lucy, born of their own bubbles, crawls in between - “ Mah daddy has so many troubles turning the world into a bubble and sick of crossfire - the cries of the women and children flying over his head - he stumbled down to the riverbank and found, the wreckage twisted around the tree behind, his skull. . . Noises, there are noises, noises that can of themselves drive a man mad -NOISES! But last night the Stockhausen penetrated from the four sides of the auditorium, stripping each layer of feeling and thought until all that was left was something the size of a nut - so tiny, so hard, so impenetrable it was alone in the middle of an infinite space. . . -Howard Dull ~~ ps: Howard Dull was such an obscure poet that he never published a book and ( to my knowledge) never published another poem. But OMG, this was so brilliant that in my opinion it should be read and studied at the college level. All love in isolation from Miami Beach, Florida, Al
I knew the interviewer was lackluster, a tack in the beautiful enigmatic wheel of Hanya Yanigihara, as soon as she asked if Jude would have been triggered by 9-11, further on saying that it is somewhat avant-garde and gauche to pen a writing about New York without referencing 9-11; to assume that books exist within this universe is an exception to the rule, not the law itself. Her questions were limited in scope, and while Yanagihara remains lively in her elocution of response, it is a shame that more beautiful questions, an abundantly flowing and revealing conversation, was a missed opportunity.
Jude is a logistician/ mathematician, lawyer, baker, cook, good at singing and playing the piano, know different languages, and many other things but if we take all these excellences and achievements would he still be as lovable as a character?
I think we would. He didn’t start out that way in the beginning of the novel, him and willem are broke living in a tiny apartment, and his friends loved him and supported him but as he gains more money and success his self image doesn’t change he always thinks he’s putting up a ruse and he’s “dirty” and horrible because of what’s been done to him. I think the point is that Jude is valuable and lovable even without all of those talents and skills, you have value just being a human being on this earth and there’s nothing more you are required to do to have value but Jude is always trying to prove himself capable both physically and emotionally to others. It’s not all of those things that we as an audience and all of Judes loved ones love so dearly about him, we love him because he’s Jude and what makes him frustrating as a character is that he never comes to that realization that he doesn’t need to earn value he already has it.
don’t forget how all his friends loved him and cared for him during college and after. also willem always called him the best listener he knows. he, at the end, forgave JB for what he did. always put so much effort in trying not to load his friends with his own problems and traumas but sometimes he couldn’t help himself. he even used to clean his friends’ rooms/places and cook for them as a way of giving back because this was the only way he could give back during that time before he became successful and wealthy. i loved Jude before knowing what he will be a couple hundred pages after being introduced to him.
I have to watch this interview all the time to remind myself that A Little Life isn’t real, it really hurt me and Jude’s story broke my heart, The book made me very emotionally drained and depressed, I never recommend this book to anyone.
I just want to know what made her write that Jude had literally been through every horrible thing imaginable. Why not one or two terrible traumas? It is just as hard to recover from that. Why did Jude have to suffer from so much, his entire life?
@bangtan trash absolutely true, which is also why it’s so great. I just think that a smaller percentage of people can relate to that much trauma and it is fiction so she didn’t have to write it that way
@bangtan trash you’ve made a good point! I think everyone who has read this book feels it is amazing or a trauma dump. I thought the book was amazing and touching and written beautifully. Been a little disappointed over the authors interviews, but don’t care. Thanks for discussing!
@bangtan trash of course, and yes art shouldn’t be limited and trauma is not predictable and absolutely things exactly what Jude had experienced have probably happened to real people- and worse. Just based off of these authors interviews and recoils writings it seemed like she trauma dumped ): she wrote it so beautifully and so accurately, however, it truly touched my soul. So much that I adopted a puppy and named him Jude in hopes that I could give “this Jude” a wonderful life. My imagination reincarnated this fictional character to my pup lol. I loved the book.
This book (although it’s arguable that the trauma was unrealistic etc.) is absolutely poetic and masterful just because of how it makes you think of what life is and happiness and relationships. There is so much to think about it’s stunning!
SPOILER: If I were ever given the honor to ask Hanya Yanagihara a question I would ask 'Why did you have to kill Willem ? Why did you take him away from Jude ?'
i was taken aback when the accident occured. I couldn't even believe that what i read was right; so i reread the page once, twice, thrice. Why take Malcolm, willem and sophie and leave that one douchebag called jean baptise! Such a devastating moment.
The days after, when Jude is smelling his clothes, not moving his items... I cried like a baby for hours. His reaction, his ways to cope felt so real, I feel like I'd deal similiarly, and that hurt. I don't even want to think about something like that happening in my life, and yet this book made me live trough those feelings
Yes! It left me feeling angry because I was like did that really have to happen? Jude had hood of getting better but I guess the whole point was that he wasn’t supposed to.
Sooo... I'm 100 pages in.. Nothing huge has happened yet but I'm taking massive breaks as I'm scared about all the reviews hinting the impact it has on one's mental health.. I'm not the most stable person but when I heard about this book.. It was like someone saying "don't push that button." you kind of want to push it right? So I started reading it and decided I'd take big breaks and also skim read certain parts if it triggered me. Am I playing with fire here? Anyone want to talk me down, I'm open to it tbh.
i also am 100 pages in, the comments on this video really concerned me, i'm doing the same as you !! proud that you're putting your mental health first :) i bought the book out of curiosity but it's definitely much heavier than i could imagine
i hope this isn't too late but i'm glad you're putting yourself first! it gets EXTREMELY triggering after the first 200 pages, the self harm depiction and everything else started to affect me a lot and it took me a mentally crushing week to finally finish. for me i feel like it was worth it, gave me new and revealing POVs on the vastness of love and kindness, as corny as that might sound hehe :) this book made me talk about my depression to my dad, finally, after 3 years of going thru it (there's no expiration date on needing help) but at the same time i cannot physically recommend this book to anyone because it is THAT devastating. anyways i hope you can take away something from my rambling and i wish you well if you decide to continue the book !!
I admire Hanya Yanagihara for her literary skills. It proves how powerful and destructive writing can prove to be. Efforts and imagination can do anything you wish to.
Just finished this book and have so much to say about it I could write a 700 word novel myself. This book was good, then bad, then unbelievable... but mostly it was bad. HY tackles the value of life through eastern philosophies of non-attachment. This can perhaps work when we are referring to material objects but not when we are analyzing our life itself. It's against human nature to rationalize not feeling attachment towards your own life, no matter how much trauma you have been through. Jude's character is narcissistic, egocentric and all of the characters around him are a scaffolding to ensure he is being enabled to continue his personal philosophy about his life being meaningless. This book isn't real literature. It's a pretentious book that was published without considering how harmful this book is for suicide attemp survivors, families affect, sexual abuse survivors etc. This is a book that romanticizes trauma through frivolous manipulation. I gave this book 3 stars on good reads, and although people say this book will stay with them forever, I will most certainly pick up a real book tomorrow (a masterpiece of literature, well crafted, which has stood the test of time - instead of branching out to these ridiculous hypes of new authors everyone raves about) and forget about these characters in a week. Thanks HY, but, I wont be reading any of your future books!
suicide attempt survivor and s*xual abuse survivor here and this book impacted me forever. i am forever grateful for the experience and feelings i felt while reading the book and all the tears i shed along the way. it was a beautiful book & i will wake up every single day and think of jude. i resonated with it so much & it will always be a favorite of mine that i’ll carry with me forever.
Is Jude narcissistic? His ego is so depleted I would perhaps argue he is the opposite and thereby attracts to him toxic narcissitic abusers who seek power and submission and cruel dominance. Just a thought.
That is such an insanely wild thing to say... You can dislike the book and think its harmful but to assert that it doesn't even count as literature is crazy lol. Also, it's not narcissistic to be in so much pain that your thoughts are consumed with the urge to annihilate yourself. I think you may have misinterpreted things. That's like blaming an anorexic person for being sick and calling them shallow and vain. That's unhelpful and the exact opposite of what mentally ill people need. Plus I think part of the point of the book was that Jude fought for the ability to live out his little life despite all the pain he experienced. Maybe he would urge suffered less if he'd died earlier but the experience of getting to be a person was important enough that he fought to stay alive in spite of all he went through. And something people don't get better. That's just reality, but that doesn't make them worthless. Chronically ill suicide survivor btw.
@@BooksRebound Yes I agree. As I wrote in my brief comment above in response to the main opinion, Jude is not narcissistic. His self-worth is fragile, he is insecure (only feels secure in classrooms and the workplace - he is institutionalised because of his childhood in care). If anything, Jude fears being the centre of attention and claiming people's time and affection. Other characters speak of Jude's gentleness and generosity. He is not self-obsessed but traumatised by pain and abuse.
Is it just me that I think Jude had a full life despite the unrelenting tragedy and bleak ending? At 53 yo, Jude really did it. And his death left a legacy and would never be meaningless. The only thing that's heartbreaking for me is that he would never have known that. He wouldn't have known that he was loved unconditionally by people around him. It's so heartbreaking that his trauma had been clinging to his developmental phase so strongly that he couldn't help to just be distrustful of people he should've trusted. 😭😭😭
I just finished the book and I'm here to say is the book has some flow, and then it just ends... Just ends, and i stopped breathing. Like you can't do this to me!
I'm not asking for rainbows and unicorns at the end, I'm just hoping for some sort of comfort for these characters thay I grew fond of. With so much suffering (as they ages), I believe they deserve a life that's bearable. It feel like being Pandora, after opening the box but inside there's no hope to be found. Not even a flicker.
I can't help but point out a pattern I've observed in female authors when writing gay men or men in general. It almost seems as though they enjoy putting their male characters, especially the gay ones, though unimaginable trauma. Female authors have a tendency of fetishising masculine pain while at the same time claiming male authors fetishise feminine pain. They put the characters through pain and that pain is also always conveniently caused by other males. In a couple of years, the topic of sexism by female authors to their male characters shall be discussed properly, just not today sadly.
Gave up on A Little Life after about 300 pages... the parts with Jude's bf were so unrealistic...and it was unbecoming how trauma was thematically 'abused' to keep the plot going.
I am really intrigued by her saying JB grew the most in the book because I actually thought the opposite. He did mature, he did become clean, but his relationships were always unsteady outside his core friends and when he kissed Jude during the finals chapters I wanted to smack him 😂 I thought that was so out of bounds and presumptuous and I said to myself he really hasn’t changed much at all. I personally saw a lot more growth from Malcolm 🤷🏼♀️ but I did love and appreciate JB for being unapologetically authentic to himself. His art work was such a contrast to him as a person in my opinion
For me, the shocking moments didn't leave the most impact on me, it was instead the moments when Jude was receiving a lot of love and care from this friends and families and his thoughts in between that left me in tears.
I agree
Same
The grilled cheese scene was the first time I cried reading the book
@@steffidelzin4466it was so sad seeing Jude pushing away people who cared for him so much ..
@@steffidelzin4466 I knooow, the hug was like the missing piece of the Jude = x. Just knowing he was unconditionally loved
People need to let go of the desire of satisfaction at the end of a book. You don’t always need to be rewarded a happy ending, sometimes things are just meant to be felt. Making the statement that trauma like this isn’t real is so unreal in itself. I knew someone just like Jude and may God rest his soul, but sometimes things are never ending. This was a tragic story, but a good read. Sometimes a story doesn’t need a clear plot just good characters and this is it.
it’s not even about that. it’s the fact that this book is even allowed to be published and promoted to very young innocent teens and adults. This book is more than just a sad story, it’s literally traumatising and way too graphic. It’s genuinely fucked up.
whoever read this book and wasn’t completely destroyed afterwards is insane.
For your thought i am thankful. That you knew of a 'better' life than so many others
@@Iloveyourmum6972 of course people are going to be destroyed after reading this in someway. as desja stated earlier, if people really expect happy endings or at least a positive satisfaction while indulging in this story needs a reality check. the book was intended to make people uncomfortable and it is fucked - the way Jude went out and (thinking beyond this story) the way people have been through the same things he went through or even the unspeakable. i assume that this book wasn't targeted to only a younger audience nor demographic - trigger warnings are also involved and mentioned numerous times so readers SHOULD know what they are getting into. but then again, this book isn't for everybody and everyone's opinion towards a little life is valid.
Exactly!
The emptiness and loneliness and hopelessness and all of the sadness Jude experienced when Willem passed away is so intense and vivid, more intense than the pain he went through when he was abused. I cried so much after Willem's death, seeing how Jude was tryingso hard to maintain his memories vivid... it was the most emotional part of the book to me, and I don't know how Jude was able to handle that emptiness for so long. This book is a masterpiece
Couldn't agree more
It really is..
Loss is the worst. I have personally endured a lot in life but my fathers death is something I can’t accept and move on from. That void 😢
Completely agree! The true emptiness of his being as if his soul was sucked away when Willem is killed. It is the most beautiful and painful part of the book.
Yes, I agree. The abuse scenes made me feel angry towards the abusers and to somehow want to be proactive and 'rescue' Jude (legally/physically) from each awful childhood/adolescent/disabled adult rape/abusive situation. Willem's death and Jude's intense grief (smelling Willem's perfumes and seeking comfort in his clothing for some remaining essence) and the hollowness of searching for someone who is no longer there, was realistically and intensly depicted.
“You are trespassing into someone else’s most intimate moment” I honestly can’t agree more when reading this story. Jude’s story particularly and Especially with the happy years. I felt I shouldn’t even be reading the parts and how Willem and Jude struggled in their relationship. It’s so private and honest it was painful to witness.
I've just finished it and I'm mostly here to cry.
I’m here for closure because I am not ok!!!
Lol I am here cos I am angry. She must be really messed up. The only thing this book has done is to upset the reader.
This is such a mood
Ive finished it just now and im doing the same
Halfway through now. Please tell me it gets happier 😭
just trying to cover my emptiness by consuming as much content on the book as possible
Jude, the patron saint of lost causes. I have never read a character so tangible as him. He will stick with me forever. I met Jude five years ago, and still, he haunts me in the best ways.
Unlike many regrets I have with my life, I only regret Harold being left thinking what he did wrong.. he can work it out by himself tho.. he's the only stable one.
she has such a way with words i could listen to her for hours
as i read the book, i found myself thinking that it was unnecessary trauma in too graphic of detail throughout the story, that it was overdone and almost too pensive. and then after i finished, i thought about willem and jude's friendship for maybe the week after, every day. it was all that was on my mind. and i realized that the book isn't about jude, or willem, or any of the problems they face- it's about taking time to enjoy friendships and life, even if there's no happy ending. ALL is one of my favorite reads now.
I hate when people think it's "too much trauma". Like you read the trigger warnings, did you expect it wouldn't be heartbreaking? People think talking about trauma isnt hard or that it shouldn't be talked about at all. We need to tackle the hard things.
@@RED-my9hl not in this way when Yanagihara didn't even do her research about mental health, doesn't believe in therapy and thinks Trigger Warnings are not necessary.
@@19Rena96 cry about it
@@19Rena96I agree with her. Life doesn’t have trigger warnings
@@chedderman101 Outing yourself as clueless is not a flex.
I didn't have the heart to read the last few chapters of this book. I was so broken, so torn up. Jude St. Francis sometimes crosses my mind and I'd have nothing but tears.
please read the ending its written so beautifully and ik its gonna make you sad but its worth it i promise!
Same was the case with me
When she speaks about how marriage has not always been with a person you choose, but friendship is undoubtedly a relationship you choose - you make the decision to surround yourself with this person for no ulterior reason, for no reason other than the pleasure you derive from each other - I am reminded of what struck me so heavily the first time I read the book, and what has brought me back to it each and every time.
I can’t believe she wrote it that fast WHILE WORKING! It must have been a real work from the soul. It felt like a work from the soul. Omg. It was crazy good and crazy sad
I think she wrote the book how we read it, she couldn’t not write it once she had the storyline just like we couldn’t put it down when we first start reading it
She's been planning the book since she was twenty six so we can say the book existed in bits and pieces before she finally sat down to write the finished and final draft.
(TW!) I'm gonna be honest; this book triggered my suicidal thoughts and I literally tried to end my life after I read it. I obviously wasn't doing fine emotionally back then, but I wish I hadn't read it being depressed, I wish I could read it now, but I am so afraid of it that I can't even try to think about the main characters without shivering. I wouldn't recommend it to people with a bad mental state. However, if you know what you're getting into and you're not scared to be emotionally affected, then go ahead, it really is a beautiful book.
thank god you are better now if you want to talk i am here♡
@@amasyooh1664 Thank you🙏🏻💓
Seems unwise to subject yourself to such a book given your unstable mental state.
Your comment was featured in a UA-cam video that was a review about a little life
@@bristiray3861 Yes. You're right. It was an honest mistake, but I learned from it. Now I'm more careful and cautious about what I read and consume.
I think some people are too attached to the idea it always gets better, it doesn’t. That’s real for a lot of people but also that’s something that we all feel, without knowing what the future holds things can feel like it won’t get better. That’s valid
I totally agree. But it can be also very problematic because it can or may seem to people who share judes trauma or suffer from the same illnesses or struggles that it will not get better and that is very much not true and can give a wrong message to people.
Jude St. Francis always comes to my mind... he deserved better
This book made me go from not reading at all to 200 pages a day. I'm still not sure how I feel about this book, but I treasure it for the impact it had on me. I read constantly now.
HOW DID SOMEONE READ 700-800 PAGES IN ONE NIGHT
You don't know a book lover 😅
ik right. i happened to last really long ways into reading my books!
Ikr it took me 4 hours to read this-
@@oompapaoom112 4 hours, I-
@@vailreheart8083 imma slow reader sorry lmaoao
Here's my question- why did JB kiss Jude?? And further into that spiral: did he think of Jude of more than a friend? Finally, a statement: I will sell my soul to own *Jude With A Cigarette*!!!!
did he really kissed jude or did jude imagined it? bc jude did think harold was trying to rape him but he was hallucinating at that time
didn't he kiss his cheek
JB was always attracted to Jude, its said explicitly in the book multiple times, they say in the book that JB kissed Jude just to see what it would be like and neither of them enjoyed it.
Spoilers: That is one of the moment I believe that were unnecessary because from what I understood JB wasn’t attracted to Jude but to Willem. JB was just triggered about Jude because really he never gets to know him. I believe that the ending would have been the same without making JB kiss Jude as their friendship was never truly restored.
@@convictustore nah that Willem
Edit: jb liked Willem not Jude jb only kisses jude once and that was at the end
I think what "stays with" one about this book, is the soul destroying effect of child sexual abuse. I don't like to say it was a "fun" read, but I thoroughly enjoyed the experience.
oh hi! can you tell me please the name of the author?
@@Mimi-gu6gn Her name is in the title mate.
Physical & mental abuse as well. I’ll go so far as to say if the sexual abuse was taken away, it still would have been a hellish childhood. All the beatings and chastisements.
@@rlfolder5437 Yes, when Jude causes the mug Jacob made to break because he thinks Harold's playful lunge is a violent act. Likewise, when Caleb first hit him across the face he finds some 'solace' in the cruel action and 'expects to be hit'. It is the idea that because of past physical and mental abuse Jude is in wonder, especially earlier in the novel, when the adult males he knows don't hit him yet he expects them to. I found the scene when he is fourteen and tries to run away by hiding in the rebuilt cavity wall in the college and is found then climbs into the car, the 'cruelest' counselor is waiting for him, then punches Jude in the mouth and nose and Jude's own blood is described as 'nourishing... soup' - a really disturbing and pitiful scene.
Despite being a frequent reader, I always had difficulty connecting to books I read and find myself becoming extremely bored or tired from so many books. A Little Life opened so many dark doors I did not even know existed in my life, and become completely immersed within the world Hanya created. It has been months since I have read this novel and I am still craving for a book that creates the same dark, dense, layered connection. This story was so sadly inexplicable, yet I creepily want to read more books that make me feel this strange pain.
I recomend to you Neapolitan Novels by Elena Ferrante then. The pain I was left with after reading A little life reminded me of pain I felt after finishing that series. They're completely different stories, but what they have in common is that they both deal with the subject of violence and how it affects people also leaving reader crushed after the lecture. It isn't as graphic as ALL, but it's still a very powerful story.
The way a teared up when Jude was adopted by his Professor
I just finished the book. I’m not crying but the pain I feel is very inward and will probably stick with me for a while. It’s an amazing book.
Gosh she is so eloquent and articulate! I love listening to her speak.
I cried for the past 2 hours finishing the book. That literally broke me
I read this in 3 days, I couldn't put it down.
She’s an unforgiving author. Makes the reader feel so helpless
She literally said she didn’t care i- 😭😭
Cry about it lmao
This book took me 2weeks to finish (I have kids, you know what it's like) - HOW did the woman finish it in a NIGHT?!
I felt like the length of the book, how detailed it was made it more intimate, like I was sitting right behind Jude and witnessing his life.
right, not to mention how emotionally draining it was to read. i can’t imagine reading it in one go!
Hi.. I'm a mom as well and I've been reading this book for almost a week.. I'm so eager to know what is going to happen that every time I have to put it down I feel mad 😂
01:20 Reading A Little Life in one night IS POSSIBLE.
For those of you who put harsh comments, here’s my explanation.
The host said, her friend read from 3pm to 3am.
My hardcover copy is 720 pages.
720 pages : 12 hours = 60
So it’s like 60 pages/hour or 1 page/minute.
Remember, it’s not really 720 pages, because there are some blank pages or title pages.
If you’re reading A Little Life book in your native language, you barely have reading disability and a fast reader in general, then reading 1 page/minute IS TOTALLY POSSIBLE. Even 2 pages/minute is still possible.
How about eating or bathroom break?
Easy. Can rest, of course.
But another option: AUDIOBOOK. Some readers like to listen to audiobook to 2x-2.5x speed, so it could cut more times.
The thing is, us, as avid readers, once we love a book, we can read it so fast like crazy but still comprehend the book itself.
Have you heard challenge like “24 hours readathlon” and 1 person can read 5 books (with average 300 pages)?
Yeah...
So, before accusing someone is lying for reading 700 pages book, maybe break down how it could be possible first.
Thank you for coming to my T*D talk.
It's not that she's lying, is that how can someone grasp the full essence of a 700 page book when read in one night. It is indeed possible but you need time to process/ponder on what you've read. Otherwise you'll forget what you've read in 2 days.
I love this author. She is so eloquent and well-spoken and she doesn’t ramble.
'I did no research and I feel you don't need to'
The hardest disagree on that one.
This is an amazingly well writing book. It is also the worse book I've ever read and from what I've read of the author, she is either a bad writer or a bad person. This is not a heartbreaking look into trauma, this is a cliched and harmful message that suicide, self harm, and toxic relationships are the only answer.
What book did you read?
hanya is so elegant. and i think the interviewer had actually some good points!
I think this book have amazing life lessons but people just think about how sad it is! this book straight up tells you the point of life is to be a good friend and feeling proud of one's life
I agree and thought about this aspect of it too
None of them was a good friend to him though if you see the story critically. In fact they all let him down in more ways than one through their toxic positivity.
as much as i loved this book, it impacted my mental health immensely.
yes, i did read the trigger warnings and for the most part, i knew how the book would end and that it wouldn't be happy. but actually reading and experiencing the pain that jude went through was likely the most detailed, disturbing, and emotionally unsettling feeling ive ever felt. the ending somehow did not make me cry even though i felt like i wanted to cry for days, weeks after i finished. not long after reading this book, i (selfishly) relapsed. i cant exactly say why, the trauma i experienced was no where near as awful as what jude had to go through, but i still felt a sort of connection to him. the pages describing his self harm felt all too real, perfectly described the emotions (or lack thereof) that come from such self harm.
all in all it was a both beautiful, yet heartbreaking story to read. some days i wish i never picked up the book and others i feel overwhelmingly grateful that i did. i think this book will stick with me for many many years to come.
im not sure how im going to recover from reading this honestly lol. its tragic, yet realistic.
i wish everyone who has read this book, went through what jude did or had to help a "jude" of their own, the absolute best. sometimes these awful things dont happen for a particular reason. you arent being punished and it is not your fault. there are cruel people in this world. and all we can do is try to help, care for, love, and understand each other, and thats enough. because it will get better. you may not believe it now, or ever, but you have to keep pushing through. dont hesitate to reach out, whether it be to a friend, family member, a random person on the internet. you are needed here.
Really, really well said. I just finished reading and it’s scary how easily you can relate to every character or how they feel. Wish you the best and hope you’re doing great too!
I finished the book in 3 days and it took me a week to recover mentally
How can I even begin to describe the book that has haunted me for months after reading it? It's genuinely one of the best and worst books I've ever read, I love it with my whole heart but it also shatters it into tiny pieces. I can't move on from it.
I finished the book yesterday and yet I find myself crying at random moments throughout the day by just thinking of the book 😭💔😪 Jude St. Francis I will always love you forever 🤍🕊️
Came here after finishing the book and I managed to go most the book without crying, but those last few pages. I cried for him and I cried for anyone who has ever believed the lies of their abusers.
This book broke our hearts fr
I finished this book in 2 weeks because I had to pause at some parts my heart cannot take.
I finished this book today and I am here to cry 😭😭😭😭 not having anybody to share my feelings
me right now i am crying and shaking
@@newmoon7661 I can understand your feelings. 😭😭
Me
😢😢😢
I literally feel crushed to bits, please reassure me that it will get better, please 😭
Of course we all feel a raft of emotions for Jude but Willem's love for Hemming and Harold's longing for his lost son left me holding my heart.
I loved this book.
Have read it three times now and have been moved every time.
Beautiful characters and so very well described.
Thank you for a portrait of lovely characters.
Christopher
Australia
Hanya Yanagihara, I think you may have just written one of my favourite books of all time. Thank you for making all the effort, your book is completely amazing. 😊📖❤️
Can someone please argue with me on this, am I the only who finds it problematic that she did not research regarding self-harm and child molestation? I loved the book, but I do think those triggering parts could have been handled way better
I don't think there's something wrong with those triggering parts she wrote, however I do agree that it's wrong that she didn't do any research on that.
I entirely agree with you. I think there's a lot of responsibility when writing about such delicate topics, and she should have done the research in it to ensure she's not being irresponsable with her portrayal. I'm genuinely curious why she thought research was needed for the professional sections of the boon (law, math, show biz etc) but not for those issues. But then I see she doesn't go to therapy and doesn't believe in it, so I imagine it has something to do with it. I would say she probably thinks research on those two issues is unnecessary, just like therapy is unnecesary, and that she feels confident in portraying those issues just going by the narratives she's been exposed to from people who have gone through that. I don't know what to make of this. She's clearly a very insightful and intelligent woman, but I still think of she respected the seriousness and uniqueness of those issues and the people who suffer from that, she would have taken the time to go deeper in her research of that.
Although having said that, I still think that considering the lack of research on those issues, she still managed to build a realistic portrayal of them. I've seen many comments from people affected by similar past trauma, saying that they approve of the portrayal.
Personally I don't think it matters. As a writer myself I probably would do research but I also recognise that you can't do research on everything.
Most people who don't like lack of research seem to just not like subject matter and are justifying it
Finished reading the book last night. The amount of sadness, emptiness, loneliness and anguish I am feeling isn't something I can translate into words.
She did answer gracefully
I'm in so much pain
just finished it last night and i have no clue how to go on from now on
I have a few chapters left and I’ve been crying so much. How can a life be plagued with so much sorrow?
There are many lives like this ..we don't see or choose not to see
Right, and to think the suffering started from the moment he was born and lasted until his final days😭😭💔❤️🩹
I just finished reading a little life. The ending of the story makes sense. I don't want to trivialize the s word. Dealing with trauma takes courage and it is challenging. I don't recommend to read this book to people who are also struggling with their mental health.
I actually don't know what i am saying, i am still processing the whole story.
I was in a psych ward after a suicide attempt when I was reading this book. I don't think it'd be safe for me to read it outside of the ward in the state of mind I was in, but I'm so thankful I did
i hope u are doing better. I’m so sorry u went thru that, but it’s such a blessing u still walk this earth. U are so strong 🤍
When she said the lady finished it in a night... LIAR
Yes then you read or sooo f ast that nothing what uou read stays with you or ........yes liar ....why is it so important to read fast...i read slow but the books i rea d stays with me.....greetings from holland
Have you heard..... 24 hours readathlon? :)
I don't think it's that big of a stretch. I read about 80 pages an hour, so this book would take me 10/11 hours to read if I'm being generous with time i.e taking breaks, snacking, etc. And I have friends who read 120-150 pages an hour. It's something you can teach yourself to do, although I'm personally fine with where I'm at.
If you meant because of how emotional it is it would be very hard to continue reading after certain parts, I can't speak on that. But I do know people who have read it and have pushed passed really hard stuff to finish the book so they didn't have to cry the next day lol.
What a magnificent experience I had, not just reading but translating the book into Ukrainian! Dear author you are great!
I watched many reviews of this and finally got it for Christmas.
I really really enjoyed the book. I thought it was really well written, I liked the detailed accounts of the lives of everyone, that we got to know everyone so intimatly. I am however rather disappointed after hearing her say, that she didn't do any type of research into therapy/trauma/self-harm etc. That makes the book for me very hard to judge. As a reader who has not had any of these experiences (thank god) I want to be able to trust the author and to rely on her for information in these areas, especially because the book is written in such a real way. After hearing her say that, I honestly don't know what to think of the book anymore, which I really loved just an hour ago. How do you feel about it?
It's amazing how the book spoke for me, I had a hard childhood and I many times what Jude thought is exactly my trail of thoughts
This book comforted me in a ways that therapy never has. I feel like I can rebuilt myself now. This book has turned me around. Thank you.
I just finished the book and I’m here to cry more
I just finished the book omg I am in tears!! Absolutely amazing story.
The saddest part of the book to me, that had me sobbing, was when Willem held Jude in bed and told him "you are Jude and you are..." That speech had me in pieces.
It's not a beautiful book. It's a dark and disturbing book which lingers on describing horrors in painstaking detail over and over and over again
She is a great speaker. And very cute, too!
This book is a work of genius
Her intellect is astonishing
How could the author not do research on pedophilia or cutting and write do expensively? This book can be harmful for many. And she never went to therapy!
Yea knowing this now, after reading it, doesn’t sit well with me.
She said she "didn't do research" but then described all the survivor testimonies and alluded to people she knew in her personal life that had lived through that. I think that when she hears "research" or says "research" then maybe she thinks of poring over medical journals and that's why she says she dislikes research. But it sounds to me as though she described getting information about this subject with care, respect, and thoroughness...she just won't use the word "research" for that, though.
Couldn’t put it down?! Every time I put this down I had to put so much effort towards picking it back up, which feels like a feat of discipline and commitment. Its detail is what makes it a masterpiece, but by no means was this something that consumed me or stayed up late into the night devouring.
The interviewer was underwhelming to be honest--the audience had better questions.
One of the best books I have ever read
lily: *finishes in one night*
hanya: I call bullshit
Just found out there is a play. Anyone know where to watch it digitally?
The book was 700+ pages but I felt like I read it so fast. By the time I knew it, I passed page 100, 200, 400, 700. I would say don't let the size intimidate you. The way it hooks ypu makes it feel like its going by faster than a 300 page novel
I love this interview so much! I'm glad that I was really able to get inside the author's mind as to how and why she wrote this book. & I can't wait to see what she has in store for the future!
hope you don’t mind me sharing the following poem, one of my all time favorite meta poetic poems by a poet named “Howard Dull” titled “Suibhne Gheilt” that I recently chanced upon. When I read it, I became speechless. And most of my poetry friends consider this as one of their all time favorites.
It was published in a 1970s anthology titled “ Open Poetry” and proves that once Poetry hits you in your heart, , you could be the worst nefarious scoundrel with kings and Empires at your command but you will be transformed and never again return to your previous Self.
~~
Suibhne Gheilt
1
He has haunted me now for over a year
that madman Suibhne Gheilt
who in the middle of a battle
looked up and saw something
that made him leap up and fly
over swords and trees
- a poet gifted above all others -
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How could a proud loud mouth
who yelled KILL KILL KILL
as he plowed done the enemy
- heads rolling off of his sword -
be so lifted up
( or fly up
as those below saw it
- wings beating)
be so suddenly gifted
with poetry
and nest so high
in Ireland’s tall trees?
Is there a point
where all paths cross?
And why am I so drawn to him
that all my questions
seem shot in his direction?
“And they ran into the woods
and threw their lances
and shot their arrows
up through the branches”
What parallels could I ever hope to find -
my refusal to fight
( weaseling out on psychiatric grounds)?
my leaving my country behind?
my poetry?
“and my wife wept
on the path below. . .
Oh memory is sweet
but sweeter is the sorrel
in the pool in the path below”
I fly down every night
to eat
111
Sweeney like the rest of us would have been better off if he had never anything to do with women.
But the point of it lies hidden
in a pool of milk
in a pile of shit
for you to see
when a milkmaid smiles
Sweeney like the rest of us flies down
and when she pours the milk
into the hole her heel made in the cowdung
Sweeney like the rest of us kneels down and drinks
and dies on the horn the cowherd hid in it.
So before you have anything to do with women
remember Sweeney the bird of Ireland
lying on his back
in the middle of that path
in the moonlight.
1V
And on my way home
this morning
( my wife
waiting)
my shadow
racing up the path ahead of me
I saw something
( a black stone?)
thrown
at the back of its head
ducked
and spun around
so fast
I almost fell down
- it was a bird
flying up into a tree
V
No good could come out of this war
out of what burns in the heart of our highly disciplined
John Q. Killer as a whole village bursts into one flame -
the villagers streaming like tears
towards the forest
cover his helicopter’s blades
blow the leaves off and
and the flame towards. . .
as we sit in front of our bubbles watching our president
( whose bubbletalk no one can escape and he is a little bit
mad -calling the reporters in for an interview while he’s
sitting on the bubble having
a bubble movement) and first
lady climb into their big bubble bed an Lucy, born of
their own bubbles, crawls in between -
“ Mah daddy has so many
troubles
turning the world into a bubble
and sick of crossfire -
the cries of the women and
children flying over his head -
he stumbled down to the
riverbank and found,
the wreckage twisted around the tree
behind, his skull. . .
Noises, there are noises,
noises that can of themselves drive
a man mad -NOISES!
But last night the Stockhausen penetrated from the four
sides of the auditorium, stripping each layer of feeling
and thought until all that was left was something the size
of a nut - so tiny, so hard, so impenetrable it was alone
in the middle of an infinite space. . .
-Howard Dull
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ps: Howard Dull was such an obscure poet that he never published a book and ( to my knowledge) never published another poem. But OMG, this was so brilliant that in my opinion it should be read and studied at the college level.
All love in isolation from Miami Beach, Florida,
Al
I knew the interviewer was lackluster, a tack in the beautiful enigmatic wheel of Hanya Yanigihara, as soon as she asked if Jude would have been triggered by 9-11, further on saying that it is somewhat avant-garde and gauche to pen a writing about New York without referencing 9-11; to assume that books exist within this universe is an exception to the rule, not the law itself. Her questions were limited in scope, and while Yanagihara remains lively in her elocution of response, it is a shame that more beautiful questions, an abundantly flowing and revealing conversation, was a missed opportunity.
Such a great group of listeners with great questions and comments. I wish we have a panel with a group of people like this in my area.
Jude is a logistician/ mathematician, lawyer, baker, cook, good at singing and playing the piano, know different languages, and many other things but if we take all these excellences and achievements would he still be as lovable as a character?
i believe so yes, many ppl still would be able to relate and sympathize with his pain and shortcomings
I think we would. He didn’t start out that way in the beginning of the novel, him and willem are broke living in a tiny apartment, and his friends loved him and supported him but as he gains more money and success his self image doesn’t change he always thinks he’s putting up a ruse and he’s “dirty” and horrible because of what’s been done to him. I think the point is that Jude is valuable and lovable even without all of those talents and skills, you have value just being a human being on this earth and there’s nothing more you are required to do to have value but Jude is always trying to prove himself capable both physically and emotionally to others. It’s not all of those things that we as an audience and all of Judes loved ones love so dearly about him, we love him because he’s Jude and what makes him frustrating as a character is that he never comes to that realization that he doesn’t need to earn value he already has it.
don’t forget how all his friends loved him and cared for him during college and after. also willem always called him the best listener he knows. he, at the end, forgave JB for what he did. always put so much effort in trying not to load his friends with his own problems and traumas but sometimes he couldn’t help himself. he even used to clean his friends’ rooms/places and cook for them as a way of giving back because this was the only way he could give back during that time before he became successful and wealthy. i loved Jude before knowing what he will be a couple hundred pages after being introduced to him.
Oh definitely. It was none of those achievements that made me feel for and love Jude. It was just the way he was. Jude,the center of gravity.
Yes. It’s not about his talents it’s about who he is as a person
Read few pages, loved the book already so decided to watch the interview, and damn I ran straight into spoilers😭.
Oh no 😭
47:47. Queen.
Never been so complimented by an insult
I have to watch this interview all the time to remind myself that A Little Life isn’t real, it really hurt me and Jude’s story broke my heart, The book made me very emotionally drained and depressed, I never recommend this book to anyone.
I just want to know what made her write that Jude had literally been through every horrible thing imaginable. Why not one or two terrible traumas? It is just as hard to recover from that. Why did Jude have to suffer from so much, his entire life?
Think you articulate what a lot of people wonder, why so much exactly? Like repeated
@bangtan trash absolutely true, which is also why it’s so great. I just think that a smaller percentage of people can relate to that much trauma and it is fiction so she didn’t have to write it that way
@bangtan trash you’ve made a good point! I think everyone who has read this book feels it is amazing or a trauma dump. I thought the book was amazing and touching and written beautifully. Been a little disappointed over the authors interviews, but don’t care. Thanks for discussing!
Yeah it should’ve just been the Luke stuff
@bangtan trash of course, and yes art shouldn’t be limited and trauma is not predictable and absolutely things exactly what Jude had experienced have probably happened to real people- and worse. Just based off of these authors interviews and recoils writings it seemed like she trauma dumped ): she wrote it so beautifully and so accurately, however, it truly touched my soul. So much that I adopted a puppy and named him Jude in hopes that I could give “this Jude” a wonderful life. My imagination reincarnated this fictional character to my pup lol. I loved the book.
47:48 love her sense of humour haha
I love Yanagihara so much, she is my idol. Amazing woman.
The traylor plot point was so stupid
This book (although it’s arguable that the trauma was unrealistic etc.) is absolutely poetic and masterful just because of how it makes you think of what life is and happiness and relationships. There is so much to think about it’s stunning!
SPOILER:
If I were ever given the honor to ask Hanya Yanagihara a question I would ask 'Why did you have to kill Willem ? Why did you take him away from Jude ?'
i was taken aback when the accident occured. I couldn't even believe that what i read was right; so i reread the page once, twice, thrice. Why take Malcolm, willem and sophie and leave that one douchebag called jean baptise! Such a devastating moment.
The days after, when Jude is smelling his clothes, not moving his items... I cried like a baby for hours. His reaction, his ways to cope felt so real, I feel like I'd deal similiarly, and that hurt. I don't even want to think about something like that happening in my life, and yet this book made me live trough those feelings
@@rombbu3134 Same, that part absolutely broke me. Especially when he started starving himself to hallucinate Willem..
Yes! It left me feeling angry because I was like did that really have to happen? Jude had hood of getting better but I guess the whole point was that he wasn’t supposed to.
*potential
Sooo... I'm 100 pages in.. Nothing huge has happened yet but I'm taking massive breaks as I'm scared about all the reviews hinting the impact it has on one's mental health.. I'm not the most stable person but when I heard about this book.. It was like someone saying "don't push that button." you kind of want to push it right? So I started reading it and decided I'd take big breaks and also skim read certain parts if it triggered me. Am I playing with fire here? Anyone want to talk me down, I'm open to it tbh.
I had this exact thought while watching this video. I haven’t started reading it but it’s been on my bookshelf for a long time. Did you finish it?
@@karinadominguez1261 I decided to stop reading it.. Once I feel more stable I will read it again. Putting myself first I suppose. Have you decided?
i also am 100 pages in, the comments on this video really concerned me, i'm doing the same as you !! proud that you're putting your mental health first :) i bought the book out of curiosity but it's definitely much heavier than i could imagine
i hope this isn't too late but i'm glad you're putting yourself first! it gets EXTREMELY triggering after the first 200 pages, the self harm depiction and everything else started to affect me a lot and it took me a mentally crushing week to finally finish. for me i feel like it was worth it, gave me new and revealing POVs on the vastness of love and kindness, as corny as that might sound hehe :) this book made me talk about my depression to my dad, finally, after 3 years of going thru it (there's no expiration date on needing help) but at the same time i cannot physically recommend this book to anyone because it is THAT devastating. anyways i hope you can take away something from my rambling and i wish you well if you decide to continue the book !!
Just u wait sis...
LOL the audience is so much better at asking questions
How's still here in 2024 still traumatised by a little life?
This is a book that changes you as a person after reading.
I admire Hanya Yanagihara for her literary skills. It proves how powerful and destructive writing can prove to be. Efforts and imagination can do anything you wish to.
Just finished this book and have so much to say about it I could write a 700 word novel myself. This book was good, then bad, then unbelievable... but mostly it was bad. HY tackles the value of life through eastern philosophies of non-attachment. This can perhaps work when we are referring to material objects but not when we are analyzing our life itself. It's against human nature to rationalize not feeling attachment towards your own life, no matter how much trauma you have been through. Jude's character is narcissistic, egocentric and all of the characters around him are a scaffolding to ensure he is being enabled to continue his personal philosophy about his life being meaningless. This book isn't real literature. It's a pretentious book that was published without considering how harmful this book is for suicide attemp survivors, families affect, sexual abuse survivors etc. This is a book that romanticizes trauma through frivolous manipulation. I gave this book 3 stars on good reads, and although people say this book will stay with them forever, I will most certainly pick up a real book tomorrow (a masterpiece of literature, well crafted, which has stood the test of time - instead of branching out to these ridiculous hypes of new authors everyone raves about) and forget about these characters in a week. Thanks HY, but, I wont be reading any of your future books!
suicide attempt survivor and s*xual abuse survivor here and this book impacted me forever. i am forever grateful for the experience and feelings i felt while reading the book and all the tears i shed along the way. it was a beautiful book & i will wake up every single day and think of jude. i resonated with it so much & it will always be a favorite of mine that i’ll carry with me forever.
Is Jude narcissistic? His ego is so depleted I would perhaps argue he is the opposite and thereby attracts to him toxic narcissitic abusers who seek power and submission and cruel dominance. Just a thought.
That is such an insanely wild thing to say... You can dislike the book and think its harmful but to assert that it doesn't even count as literature is crazy lol.
Also, it's not narcissistic to be in so much pain that your thoughts are consumed with the urge to annihilate yourself.
I think you may have misinterpreted things. That's like blaming an anorexic person for being sick and calling them shallow and vain. That's unhelpful and the exact opposite of what mentally ill people need.
Plus I think part of the point of the book was that Jude fought for the ability to live out his little life despite all the pain he experienced. Maybe he would urge suffered less if he'd died earlier but the experience of getting to be a person was important enough that he fought to stay alive in spite of all he went through. And something people don't get better. That's just reality, but that doesn't make them worthless.
Chronically ill suicide survivor btw.
@@BooksRebound Yes I agree. As I wrote in my brief comment above in response to the main opinion, Jude is not narcissistic. His self-worth is fragile, he is insecure (only feels secure in classrooms and the workplace - he is institutionalised because of his childhood in care). If anything, Jude fears being the centre of attention and claiming people's time and affection. Other characters speak of Jude's gentleness and generosity. He is not self-obsessed but traumatised by pain and abuse.
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What did she mean when she said she wanted to be "more Cathlic, more openminded" with her book tastes? Is that a thing? I'm so confused!
Is it just me that I think Jude had a full life despite the unrelenting tragedy and bleak ending? At 53 yo, Jude really did it. And his death left a legacy and would never be meaningless. The only thing that's heartbreaking for me is that he would never have known that. He wouldn't have known that he was loved unconditionally by people around him. It's so heartbreaking that his trauma had been clinging to his developmental phase so strongly that he couldn't help to just be distrustful of people he should've trusted.
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I just finished the book and I'm here to say is the book has some flow, and then it just ends... Just ends, and i stopped breathing. Like you can't do this to me!
I've just finished this book and I'm here to seek answers and closures. The last chapter doesn't sit right with me.
I'm not asking for rainbows and unicorns at the end, I'm just hoping for some sort of comfort for these characters thay I grew fond of. With so much suffering (as they ages), I believe they deserve a life that's bearable. It feel like being Pandora, after opening the box but inside there's no hope to be found. Not even a flicker.
43:31 bless that lady who asked about Harold cause I was like "why isn't anyone asking about Harold?" till then😂
I can't help but point out a pattern I've observed in female authors when writing gay men or men in general. It almost seems as though they enjoy putting their male characters, especially the gay ones, though unimaginable trauma. Female authors have a tendency of fetishising masculine pain while at the same time claiming male authors fetishise feminine pain.
They put the characters through pain and that pain is also always conveniently caused by other males.
In a couple of years, the topic of sexism by female authors to their male characters shall be discussed properly, just not today sadly.
Gave up on A Little Life after about 300 pages... the parts with Jude's bf were so unrealistic...and it was unbecoming how trauma was thematically 'abused' to keep the plot going.
How is it unrealistic
Can someone please let the author know that hell is hot.
what for exactly?
I am really intrigued by her saying JB grew the most in the book because I actually thought the opposite. He did mature, he did become clean, but his relationships were always unsteady outside his core friends and when he kissed Jude during the finals chapters I wanted to smack him 😂 I thought that was so out of bounds and presumptuous and I said to myself he really hasn’t changed much at all. I personally saw a lot more growth from Malcolm 🤷🏼♀️ but I did love and appreciate JB for being unapologetically authentic to himself. His art work was such a contrast to him as a person in my opinion
You spelled her name incorrectly at the beginning in the video. It’s hanYa not hana.
I started it 2 days ago and I'm already at page 487, I literally can't put it now
just finished it.