Selling beats online is not the main goal, but the overall goal. People get the cart and never put it on the horse and say “Aww this thing is a scam” but you have to create engagement and provide a reason for the music you provide. Discovery is fine but it’s long especially in the days of algorithms. You will never get the push you want in any algorithm without getting out and creating engaging conversations and interactions.
Honestly, that’s solid. Let’s say your friend group is 100 and 1 out of that 100 bought. Now scale that up to your entire state or city population. Wegotthis
@deemosbeats better than none.. idk what kind of license you sold him, but the fact he was willing to pay and not give u the "hook a homie up" rhetoric, says a lot.. congrats on the sale man!!
Also in addition to what DJPain said here is are some more ways to make money: - Audiomack Monetization Program - Facebook TikTok UA-cam Content ID - Amazon Influencer Program (not the same as Amazon affiliate program) - Sell Services (Custom Beats, Mixing, Mastering, Etc.) - Brand Partnerships
This has been one of my favorite videos by you so far this year bro. man I'm annoyed and happy/sad that people are saying this because I'm seeing producers who are now leaving and because of this I'm actually getting a lot of their customers. This has happen a lot this year. If only they committed longer.......
Give up man! It didn’t work out for me so nobody else can do it! 😂😂 This narrative going around imo is a way to make people give up and it’ll probably work on some low self esteem people. End of the day perseverance brings rewards
I have 7 beats on BeatStars, I’ve sold 2! That has to be kinda good right? Ha. I know it’s a touch personal but do you actually sell at least one beat a day? If so, that’s incredible!
So glad to hear that bro. Good for you. I got like 65 beats, 10k views on yt, around 5k plays on beatstars, makin beats for few years, last few months consistently but never had sale
I have been a part of this amazing community/radio station called "PLAN A RADIO". I've been extremely active in their discord and on in there daily live videos and literally have been gaining work daily from new artists on the regular
I made a few hundred $$$ off selling beats back in 2020/2021 when I first started making beats and posting them on traktrain. Then I shifted focus to making songs with artists I’d meet in my local areas and developing myself as an artist. But the key point to me selling beats was DAILY consistency and strategizing and focus on building an online music business for myself. It’s amazing getting paid for doing what you love but it takes dedicated work, that’s for sure. Now I make money from in person studio sessions or personal relations with artists, but looking at rebuilding my online music business
Thanks for all your honest feedback D.J. Pain 1 we really appreciate and value your input on this music journey much love and success and over all happiness to you ❤🎉
Bro was projecting his insecurities on you, sounds like. Some folks are big sadmad they aren't making money. I don't think you're a good candidate for McD's, seeing as you have an actual work ethic and all. Thanks for the knowledge Pain!
I suppose it's a marketplace and trends come and go. Pain has obviously been doing this a while, so he must be adaptive. I personally shy away from the things the commenter mentioned as a lot of modern hip hop beats have a lot of similarities. I've never released a beat but make what I enjoy. I respect anyone enjoying their craft regardless of whether or not its financially profitable. People being negative are probably jaded producers who are jealous
I appreciate you posting this, I’ve been in the insurance biz many years and ready to retire from it and focus on music, this helps me with my decision. I’m nervous about it, but I feel I have to try, I’ve put it off long enough. I don’t know if you do private consultations, but I’d love to buy some time if you do.
Don’t quit ur day job. U can focus on music but u deffo need income. Insurance is good money. The amount of time it will take to make a years salary via music does not add up
This is just going to be another creative area where humans are given up their f****** s*** to AI unless it's required disclosing we're all screwed because no one cares. Just to make beats that's not enough at this point.
I don’t sell a ton of beats but my last couple months were just like yours lol. Had a good 2 months then ton of plays/downloads but less sales the next month. Good to know it really is a up and down thing
The last time I sold a beat was 2016. The whole reason I started making beats was to have something to rap to. Now I think it’s coming full circle for me to consider that my beats are moreso for myself and my vocal timbre than anyone else’s. Sure, with that mindset, I won’t make any money from this; but, I have a distinct sound when you pair my vocals with my beats. That, I think, will get me farther than selling a lease here and there will.
This brings to mind what a shop steward for steam engine stokers could have been saying to his members about 100 years ago. It doesn’t matter how good or improved your new shovel is. Diesel locomotion is coming whether you want it to or not.
Cap jus boutta cop a beat of urs😂💯 did wanna see sum first n make sure entire shi done jus never stop adding more 🤦♂️ lmfao but u got some shiii 🔥 keep ‘em Coming frr
for me beatstars has been hella weak, but my cashapp and apple pay been boomin. I'm finding that artists need producers they can trust and get to know for the long haul. I think they rather have that 1 on 1 interaction as opposed to just buying beats. Just my experience tho i speak for myself.
the market for beats globally will only go up , for now the usa might be in an economic slowdown which is temporary and the sales are not booming like when they were when people were getting stimulus checks but this year the sales are going back up, the fact is producers (industry and online ) are making a lot more money than they were making 5 years ago and producers will me making a whole lot and i mean a lot more money than they are making right now in 5 years because the market will be bigger (1.5 o 2 times bigger to be exact ). so anybody who"s crying that selling beats is dead well you guys are lazy and incompetent and for those kind of people everything is dead . my estimate is in 2030 it wont be a big deal if some top producers do a million in revenue from beat sales in a year .
peace Pain, can u put the SAME beat in different situations? example: i make a beat upload on beatstars for sale and on distrokid to stream? is that possible? peace and thanks
whats the verdict? ive made like 150 bucks this month of leases, not much but something feel like overall world is just poor right now so spending on beats can be hard maybe
All he means is the hustle is getting harder and you gonna have to scramble now that cds records tapes are gone with everything going to the streaming world. Its not the same no more. You have to notice the placement market is strinking.
@DjPain1 5:00 - just wondering how you go by this? after someone purchased a beat you send them an email with your distrokid info? & what splits are you personally asking for?
@DJPain1 I just watched Industry Danes video on "How YTbers DESTROYED the producer community" I was curious on what your thoughts on this were. YT is just one platform in which producers can use to give tutorials on various things with music. He argues that the "anonymous" dont use the information that they watch or show proof of it on here, and he's very angry about it i guess. Anyways love your content. Thanks for being you bro. Keep doing you!!!
Dane doxes people and has emotional issues. He’s a very talented individual but he’s also fairly unhinged. Basically like many people in LA. Take the meat and spit out the bones. I think he’s just jealous that Pain and others have more followers despite Dane being on UA-cam on and off for decades. Pain spits game, and Dane mostly just copes.
@ghost-user559 i was watching the video because of the title and was curious....then while I'm listening to him, he gets angry at a dude who chimed in on his broadcast. I agree, man's got issues....
@@tisbutascratch9374 Yeah I lived in LA for ten years, and he’s very representative of what the Entertainment Industry is like. Extremely talented Actors, Producers, Directors, Musicians, almost all of which are not all there. He ghost wrote for a bunch of celebrities, but never ended up making a name for himself, just money. So he’s very talented and very bitter. And he said he grew up very hood, and his behavior does seem to kind of reflect that. He will go from super friendly to spending 4 hours ranting at someone. The real reason he doesn’t like anonymous people is that he can’t doxx and bully them. Makes the people around him easier to control and coerce when he knows who they are to defame them later. One guy who tried to take one of his courses got on his bad side, and the first thing he said he would do is post his id and address lol. But like I said, still is worth a listen for some insight into music and the industry when he’s focused on that. Basically just ignore the person and accept the insight, like we have to do with most art nowadays.
Rap is Joke literally Rap is like parody who takes seriously anymore , APain1 don't be hott an bothered cause my Views touched a Nerve it's ok Rap as u know it will never be the same ,so cry me a river when your sales plummet. Hey don't be mad get a placement with Rick Ross or J.cole 😭 you'll Never Ever get a Placement with Rick Ross or J Cole or Drake right now u don't have Connections ur a d class beatmaker with little to any notoriety. This channel don't even get views lol
Get the sample pack here: sonixaudio.framer.website/vintage-essentials USE CODE DJPAIN25
DAM I BOUGHT IT ALREADY I WISH WOULD HAVE WAITED TO GIVE A FEW SHECKLES ... BECAUSE SELLING BEATS IS DEAD 😂😂😂😂
Selling beats online is not the main goal, but the overall goal. People get the cart and never put it on the horse and say “Aww this thing is a scam” but you have to create engagement and provide a reason for the music you provide. Discovery is fine but it’s long especially in the days of algorithms. You will never get the push you want in any algorithm without getting out and creating engaging conversations and interactions.
3. One!❤
i made 15$ and it's cuz my friend bought one 😅
thats pretty good, its rare to find a friend interested in making music
Honestly, that’s solid. Let’s say your friend group is 100 and 1 out of that 100 bought. Now scale that up to your entire state or city population. Wegotthis
@@CodyShaneMitchell for me it's just one
@deemosbeats better than none.. idk what kind of license you sold him, but the fact he was willing to pay and not give u the "hook a homie up" rhetoric, says a lot.. congrats on the sale man!!
@@kkodekotruth lol
Also in addition to what DJPain said here is are some more ways to make money:
- Audiomack Monetization Program
- Facebook TikTok UA-cam Content ID
- Amazon Influencer Program (not the same as Amazon affiliate program)
- Sell Services (Custom Beats, Mixing, Mastering, Etc.)
- Brand Partnerships
This has been one of my favorite videos by you so far this year bro. man I'm annoyed and happy/sad that people are saying this because I'm seeing producers who are now leaving and because of this I'm actually getting a lot of their customers. This has happen a lot this year. If only they committed longer.......
Give up man! It didn’t work out for me so nobody else can do it! 😂😂 This narrative going around imo is a way to make people give up and it’ll probably work on some low self esteem people. End of the day perseverance brings rewards
@@ciarandoc028 and ignorance is bliss
I get what you saying but $15 dollars?
Exactly it didn't work for you just you. Don't bring everyone with you at your loss.
This is good advice
It ain't "Gona" work if you make wack beats and corny music. LONG LIVE RAP!!!
Durning the pandemic I made money selling beats to this local podcaster I knew. Gotta look at all options don’t limit your self
So at last you admitted it. The way you’ve been defending selling beats was annoying. Welcome to reality 👊🏽
😂
3:39 funny how the vid currently is at 304 views
@@kkodeko see!
I have 7 beats on BeatStars, I’ve sold 2! That has to be kinda good right? Ha. I know it’s a touch personal but do you actually sell at least one beat a day? If so, that’s incredible!
@@tinyhambeats that’s actually a good ratio. Get that 7 up to 70
@@DJPain1on it!
🙏🙏
So glad to hear that bro. Good for you. I got like 65 beats, 10k views on yt, around 5k plays on beatstars, makin beats for few years, last few months consistently but never had sale
@@prodbyuki wow never??
I have been a part of this amazing community/radio station called "PLAN A RADIO". I've been extremely active in their discord and on in there daily live videos and literally have been gaining work daily from new artists on the regular
I made a few hundred $$$ off selling beats back in 2020/2021 when I first started making beats and posting them on traktrain. Then I shifted focus to making songs with artists I’d meet in my local areas and developing myself as an artist. But the key point to me selling beats was DAILY consistency and strategizing and focus on building an online music business for myself. It’s amazing getting paid for doing what you love but it takes dedicated work, that’s for sure. Now I make money from in person studio sessions or personal relations with artists, but looking at rebuilding my online music business
I wish I was more motivated
@@MecheGT tbh me too
@@DJPain1 i need to get back on my music producer grind
4 years in, started making money this february :)
@@Francusho it really takes the time and the right foundation
@@DJPain1 foundation came half from here and half from kenny beats 🙏
Thanks for all your honest feedback D.J. Pain 1 we really appreciate and value your input on this music journey much love and success and over all happiness to you ❤🎉
Wishing the same for you!
Thanks!
Never been so early to DJ Pain video in my life
Bro was projecting his insecurities on you, sounds like. Some folks are big sadmad they aren't making money. I don't think you're a good candidate for McD's, seeing as you have an actual work ethic and all. Thanks for the knowledge Pain!
@@therealajnelson I’m boycotting them. Thank you 🙏🏽
I suppose it's a marketplace and trends come and go. Pain has obviously been doing this a while, so he must be adaptive.
I personally shy away from the things the commenter mentioned as a lot of modern hip hop beats have a lot of similarities.
I've never released a beat but make what I enjoy. I respect anyone enjoying their craft regardless of whether or not its financially profitable. People being negative are probably jaded producers who are jealous
Bitterness kills for sure
Keep the good mind
I appreciate you posting this, I’ve been in the insurance biz many years and ready to retire from it and focus on music, this helps me with my decision. I’m nervous about it, but I feel I have to try, I’ve put it off long enough. I don’t know if you do private consultations, but I’d love to buy some time if you do.
Don’t quit ur day job. U can focus on music but u deffo need income. Insurance is good money. The amount of time it will take to make a years salary via music does not add up
All Factz you have to have a passion, not just a motive.
Passion always outlast motive👑💯💪🏿🔥
@@BEATZBYBLESSZONEOUTMUZIKexactly
This is just going to be another creative area where humans are given up their f****** s*** to AI unless it's required disclosing we're all screwed because no one cares. Just to make beats that's not enough at this point.
I don’t sell a ton of beats but my last couple months were just like yours lol. Had a good 2 months then ton of plays/downloads but less sales the next month. Good to know it really is a up and down thing
The last time I sold a beat was 2016. The whole reason I started making beats was to have something to rap to. Now I think it’s coming full circle for me to consider that my beats are moreso for myself and my vocal timbre than anyone else’s. Sure, with that mindset, I won’t make any money from this; but, I have a distinct sound when you pair my vocals with my beats. That, I think, will get me farther than selling a lease here and there will.
This brings to mind what a shop steward for steam engine stokers could have been saying to his members about 100 years ago. It doesn’t matter how good or improved your new shovel is. Diesel locomotion is coming whether you want it to or not.
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Cap jus boutta cop a beat of urs😂💯 did wanna see sum first n make sure entire shi done jus never stop adding more 🤦♂️ lmfao but u got some shiii 🔥 keep ‘em
Coming frr
@@JohnnygØdoubleT-e8k thank you 🙏🏽
Youre speaking like a dummy stop it
Perfect content I have been waiting for this type of feedback for a while.
BEEN DEAD…the new wave is for artists to learn how to make they own beats, record/engineer them self’s and maximize they profits 🤷🏾♂️
😂
He's trippin. You have some of the coldest beats on youtube for sure. Your spot in the beatmaking/selling game is solidified. The hate is real.
appreciate you
He one watermelon man
Herbie Hancock
Great video. Greetings from the East of Afreeca
I'm in tears @Dj Pain 1. I mines well put in my application also at McDonald's!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭🙏💯❤️✌️
See you there, mcteam
1 day 4k view... youtube did this to spite you we know the truth haha
for me beatstars has been hella weak, but my cashapp and apple pay been boomin. I'm finding that artists need producers they can trust and get to know for the long haul. I think they rather have that 1 on 1 interaction as opposed to just buying beats. Just my experience tho i speak for myself.
How do you find the artists?
the market for beats globally will only go up , for now the usa might be in an economic slowdown which is temporary and the sales are not booming like when they were when people were getting stimulus checks but this year the sales are going back up, the fact is producers (industry and online ) are making a lot more money than they were making 5 years ago and producers will me making a whole lot and i mean a lot more money than they are making right now in 5 years because the market will be bigger (1.5 o 2 times bigger to be exact ). so anybody who"s crying that selling beats is dead well you guys are lazy and incompetent and for those kind of people everything is dead . my estimate is in 2030 it wont be a big deal if some top producers do a million in revenue from beat sales in a year .
@@SID232-by6mc you make a lot of good points
It’s not dead I’ve been consistently making sales and numbers are growing great content as always! 🔥🔥
Congrats
peace Pain, can u put the SAME beat in different situations? example: i make a beat upload on beatstars for sale and on distrokid to stream? is that possible? peace and thanks
Yeah you own it
👍👍👍
HAHA that intro :D Great vid!
Definitely agree with your ending statement. A lot of people want max level results, but put in minimum effort towards their craft
@@milesjordan 🔑
Its a lost world Pain. Your research on the industry will tell you the same thing.
Huh
Rich content in here, abraço from Brazil👊🏾🙏🏾🚀💯
I appreciate that!
Watching this at 300 views
@@Vagabondmusic5 see I was right
They hate you and you're a 🐐
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 So true.
Casually cooks a banger like we wont notice mid video 😂💪
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Why u blur that kxvi dropbox link😅 i need it
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whats the verdict?
ive made like 150 bucks this month of leases, not much but something
feel like overall world is just poor right now so spending on beats can be hard maybe
You tell me
@@DJPain1 idk bro you tell me how much u making per month off leases
@@f4llenstarr up and down buy still six figures a year off of making music
💯💯💯✊🏾
its always said you cant succeed without failing first. To fail is said as the FIrst Attempt In Learning. Fail until you succeed!!!!
Definetly not dead for me. Made a lot of sales this year so far.
@@eddyjahbombassbeats78 congrats!
Do we know how to manifest you quit cuz you want to quit
?
All he means is the hustle is getting harder and you gonna have to scramble now that cds records tapes are gone with everything going to the streaming world. Its not the same no more. You have to notice the placement market is strinking.
@@kmalljack2701 the placement market is expanding like crazy
oh my bad you said strinking
@DJPain1 i spelled it right but that auto correct working backwards. You know what I mean. Shrinking.
I'm never going to stop making beats, so i might as well upload them and get in where i fit in 💪🏾
Are you still in the capital? I know my money is tapped right now. I haven’t got to the point that you’re at yet to be stable through the bad times
wym?
@@DJPain1I was wondering if you left here or not? Just curious, things are weird right now.
@@RawjBeats Capital = money, I'm confused, are you asking me if I'm still making money?
Make music not beats
@@JanElhj255 😂
That part. You gotta love it!!!
@@mayoshanebeats have to!
Helpful as always. Thanks
@@Mark_Ravem appreciate you
you gotta build up your name and be CONSISTENT!! But the economy is slow ngl
@@CashGioo it’s very slow- election year is always 🗑️
@DjPain1 5:00 - just wondering how you go by this? after someone purchased a beat you send them an email with your distrokid info? & what splits are you personally asking for?
@@LilNapbeats its case-by-case
got more than 300 lol
@@jsmoothfools with 152k subs though it’s pretty bad
Appreciate ya as always Pain 💯💯 I'm quilting tonight just to fit in. Don't want to miss the new wave and all 😏😏
@@emptytombprod quilting seems hard, but it’s definitely less saturated than beat selling
Great video, always appreciate your transparency.
@@TRXST.ISSUES 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Thanks!
Thank you so much
@@DJPain1 no problem God bless👍🏻🙏
Great advice that I needed to hear towards the end of the video thank you for always sharing
@@Ojtheproducer happy to help
🔥thanks for these videos!
@@TonySway thank you for watching
Spot on, all of it, as usual. 💯💯💯
Much appreciated
Facts, as always inspiring!
Appreciate that
Great video! Thank you!
@@yakoboss thank you
Thanks for the sauce big broo 💯
Any time
Thank you needed this 🙏🏽
@@knowhatimsaying 💪🏼
@DJPain1 I just watched Industry Danes video on "How YTbers DESTROYED the producer community" I was curious on what your thoughts on this were. YT is just one platform in which producers can use to give tutorials on various things with music. He argues that the "anonymous" dont use the information that they watch or show proof of it on here, and he's very angry about it i guess. Anyways love your content. Thanks for being you bro. Keep doing you!!!
I have no idea, not familiar with industry dane
@@DJPain1 my apologies.
Dane doxes people and has emotional issues. He’s a very talented individual but he’s also fairly unhinged. Basically like many people in LA. Take the meat and spit out the bones. I think he’s just jealous that Pain and others have more followers despite Dane being on UA-cam on and off for decades. Pain spits game, and Dane mostly just copes.
@ghost-user559 i was watching the video because of the title and was curious....then while I'm listening to him, he gets angry at a dude who chimed in on his broadcast. I agree, man's got issues....
@@tisbutascratch9374 Yeah I lived in LA for ten years, and he’s very representative of what the Entertainment Industry is like. Extremely talented Actors, Producers, Directors, Musicians, almost all of which are not all there. He ghost wrote for a bunch of celebrities, but never ended up making a name for himself, just money. So he’s very talented and very bitter. And he said he grew up very hood, and his behavior does seem to kind of reflect that. He will go from super friendly to spending 4 hours ranting at someone. The real reason he doesn’t like anonymous people is that he can’t doxx and bully them. Makes the people around him easier to control and coerce when he knows who they are to defame them later. One guy who tried to take one of his courses got on his bad side, and the first thing he said he would do is post his id and address lol. But like I said, still is worth a listen for some insight into music and the industry when he’s focused on that. Basically just ignore the person and accept the insight, like we have to do with most art nowadays.
Yo dj pain your discography is crazy en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJ_Pain_1
🙏🏽🙏🏽
Get sum placements why let my Comment Affect little old you, I'm a figment of your imagination lol Rap is Dead.
Rap is Joke literally Rap is like parody who takes seriously anymore , APain1 don't be hott an bothered cause my Views touched a Nerve it's ok Rap as u know it will never be the same ,so cry me a river when your sales plummet. Hey don't be mad get a placement with Rick Ross or J.cole 😭 you'll Never Ever get a Placement with Rick Ross or J Cole or Drake right now u don't have Connections ur a d class beatmaker with little to any notoriety. This channel don't even get views lol
he got a couple songs with rick ross lmao you so mad rn
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