Not only lower, but hands are more closer initially too. No hating on prudnik, he's very strong but, I'm 100% sure he doesn't have strongest back pressure in the world, it's just about how he's pulling.
Unless all athletes (who are to be compared) do it on the same machine, with same wire setup, with same angle, it's kind of nonsense. 😅 results vary a lot lot with angles of pulling, height of wire and stuff Still entertaining :) good job
Exactly. And even IF all machine setups were equal with exactly the same angles and wiring and all that. It's still massively different to pull a machine then to pull another arm wrestler. Machine's don't fight back. They let you take the weight evenly.
Arm Melter why should i know it? I do not care about whose is you fan . I just wanted to say that athletes in russia,as concerned armwrestling, better than anyone in usa.
In the back pressure he is not pulling at all, he is just placing the handle with both hands into a position where he has the advantage, with the forearm amlost in the same direction than the cable, and then try to stop the weight while the it clearly opens his arm. Again, he is not pulling anything. Cyplenkov pulled the weight with just one arm and taking his forearm almost perpendicular to the cable so the tension was much much bigger. In the fingers excersice, Cyplenkov had the pulley in a lower angle in comparison to the table so he pulleg a bigger effective % of the weight in the machine. Prudnik kept a bigger angle (higher pulley) so it was easier. And Denis kept the weight for a couple of seconds while Prudnik did it for a couple of milisenconds. Dont misunderstand me, Prudnik is very strong but far from Denis and the index he got were clearly faked just to create expectation and interest, to get the attention of people.
This's just a hype market trick for his upcoming match. There's no way he has any measurement of strength above Denis. The way Denis do the pulling test was already enough different.
Yea the way he was pulling was strange looking. Ill admit im a casual fan so im not 100% sure on these types of pulls. But it seems like the weight would be on forearm, bicep, rear delt and lat correct? Not just the arm basically. If that is so 60kg isnt a shit ton right? I mean i work in lbs but its somewhere around 130lbs (just a estimate) and is that really that heavy? I mean itd be hard but that just doesn't seem like pro athlete level to me when i could probably do 45kgon a normal day as an slightly above average strength man. Maybe ive got it all wrong? Someone fill me and and don't be a dick please lol.
Каким там нахер движением мог выиграть Ларрат у Цыпленкова???)))Все прекрасно видели что абсолютно ничего Ларрат ни смог противопоставить Цыпленкову,даже когда Денис дал ему возможность побороться во всех ему удобных углах!!!
Despite the obvious differences in the technique, table position and handle size, Prudnik is a true beast. His strength for his weight class is phenomenal!!
Λευκός Ήρωας Levan and Denis have much bigger hands, though. So, it evens out. Prudnik kind of held more weight than Denis pulled, but thats perhaps it. He didnt actually outdo him.
first of all he didn't PULL 85 kg, he held it and barely held it, this measurement is a joke...the amount of speed and distance by which the thing is pulled is ignored in this kind of measurement and if you pull it a few inches it counts...that is not taking into account overall force production in the movement...what you need is what they have in cycling, a power meter...then you can properly find how much power or force each athlete is putting into the peak movement... If you could find a way to create such a tool, that shows actual power output, I guarantee you not only would it sell incredibly well, but it would far more accurately reflect and show athletic power for this sport
Having a fixed size strap gives you a leverage advantage as opposed to a strap that is adjustable. To determine true strength in back pressure one must adjust the strap where there is absolute no tension what so ever. No tension from the beginning limits and jerky movement.
One thing people are not taking into account is .. Prudnik might be able to produce a very high amount of force for a little time .. but Denis can maintain a high power for a long time with less effort and that is why he can stonewall people
The only thing that I see as "suspect" here is the fact that he is basically standing on the weight machine and not the floor. Which could not really be achieved in a match. I'm no structural engineer but it seems like that technique is creating an entirely different mechanic. Changing the fulcrum point so to speak. Also "the straw that broke the camel's back" in this case weighed 2.5 kilos!? Yikes that's amazing. Prudnik is a favorite. He and Chaffee need to square off. Matsuchenkov needs to come to America.
only proper way to compare these parameters is to measure all armwrestlers results on spot on same machine and setup...then even if measurements arent right and correct at least u have proper comparisson due to everyone pulling under same conditions /on same equipment/setup only thing left is to make sure no one cheats while.pulling and thats it.. peace
Турбин тянул по настоящему, без помощи второй руки и говорил соответственно что на турнире ты себе второй рукой не поможешь ведь. А тут больше статики это совсем другое дело
When Denis pulled the backpressure exercise he stood on his two legs and pulled it. When Prudnik did it he brased his foot against something and installed it then hold. Cyplenkov is Stronger. Respect to Prudnik 💪
So is his record 85 kg or 94.2 kg? Like what did he measure to weight 94.2 kg? The weight he pulled or the weight that broke the machine (that he didn't get to pull)?
Пхаха что за бред он несёт, рекордная натяжка у Прудника? Боюсь представить сколько Цыпленков в таком стиле сделает, само слово за себя говорит НАТЯЖКА, а не затащить двумя руками и удерживать упираясь всем телом и ногой в тренажёр.
In the 2nd exercise he is using his right leg as backpressure so this exercise is not done correctly. Its obviously more difficult to put both legs on the ground. Still very strong
Мазуренко говорит, что проверка на вес, это для себя. Что те кто тянут много, приезжают и "бум бум, проигрывают". Где, в каком месте это было показано. Леван, денис показывали большие результаты, но не приграли никому еще.
Жека красавчик! Но для размышления: натяжка делалась в "горизонтальном" положении (тобишь через доп.колесо на себя), а замер делался в "вертикальном" положении (тобишь без использования последнего доп.колеса). Так ведь?
DENIS pulled three times 87.4KG PRUDNIK, pulled 71 kg once, and had his foot against the wall. HE DID NOT PULL CLOSE TO WHAT DENIS PAULLED ??? Denis pulled 16.4kg 2 times extra, 36.8 pounds more Denis is so MUCH stronger. BUT, Prudnik is very strong also, can you imagine Devon trying to wreaser him, he can only pull 49kg. Wayne
In real hand and arm pull I like to see what these guys REALLY DO... without 2 hand holds, static, angle changes, body line change... really pull... what they really do
This isn’t strict back pressure. He is adding side which may give another 20% based on his angle. Denis is strict and would do way more with a side/angle cheat. Same with Levan... still super strong
Needs to be same machine and angle and even at same time. Ever used a machine that needs lubricated? It's heavier. Too many variables. A more accurate test would be something like a strict bicep curl with free weights. And other tests with perfect form using free weights.
Is this some bad joke . Denis pulled it with just one hand , Prudnik used his leg , pulled id with 2 hands instead just one and just hold the weight with one hand. This guy didnt beat anyone.
Yes different angle, different pull. BUT, he did not pull 75, he pulled it with two hands ??? Also he used his legs up on the table. We need this to be more rules. Wayne
I bet if Denis put in as much effort as everyone did on those tests, we will see how great the gap REALLY is. I bet he was only using half his strength.
Denis didn't use half strength. Prudnik did more than him cuz his setup was more favourable. Wire was lower and his hands started from completely flexed
@@thanostitan.infinity If Denis had the exact same set up as Prudnik here he would way more. Hes strong but he doesnt have a stronger hand then Denis. Denis would easily out do him.
Why is Igor throwing shade at Devon? We all know he is the 3rd best in the world behind Denis and Levan. LBS do matter in Levans case. Devon would crush Evgeny Prudnik atm. Give Prudnik a couple years and then he might be ready for the TOP-4. Idk if he has the overall size to compete but he is right there. But as of this second, he is top-8 worthy. IF HE CAN BEAT BRESNAN. Which is totally possible.
добрый вечер.а может быть наши все армрестлеры на проверку силы пальцев и кисти будут проверять и на кистевых эспандерах..начинают пусть например с СОС# 3....
ок оказался самым разумным человеком, я всегда думал (вы что делаете , как вы мерите, неправильно. ведь надо фиксировать с обоих сторон для точно веса) , а нет надо рукой тянуть и смотреть сколько кг
It's pulling from a lower angle therefore making it easier
Not only lower, but hands are more closer initially too. No hating on prudnik, he's very strong but, I'm 100% sure he doesn't have strongest back pressure in the world, it's just about how he's pulling.
Yeah much less going through his pronators or radial deviation muscles
whats the height diff between the two warriors?
@@LokiLL999 the closer the weight is to 90 degrees to your arm the more of the weight you lift. 90 degrees = 100% 45 degrees = 50%
@@DANKIUS1994 I understand that. Im comparing the tool size plus and the strap lengthen to height diff..
Unless all athletes (who are to be compared) do it on the same machine, with same wire setup, with same angle, it's kind of nonsense. 😅 results vary a lot lot with angles of pulling, height of wire and stuff
Still entertaining :) good job
to a degree ..
to a very large degree... angle and where the wire is placed and the height of the table compared to the wire make a massive difference
@@SZ-ZS- exactly
Every armwrestler wrestling with difference angle too. The tool and machine less matter if they measure it with Igor's weight measurement tool.
Exactly.
And even IF all machine setups were equal with exactly the same angles and wiring and all that. It's still massively different to pull a machine then to pull another arm wrestler.
Machine's don't fight back. They let you take the weight evenly.
Интересно, остальные натяжку тянули, а Прудник не тянул, а держал, это выходит 3-й вид челенджа.
Hi igor u need to come to united states and test american pullers like chaffee, devon, brzenk, bresnan, travis with your equipments.
Yeah for sure!
He dont want to go there cuz he know Americans pullers are dominant over every thing
Arm Melter rus>usa
@@andreyzdx i am Fan Of Only Denis Cyplenkov from russia
Arm Melter why should i know it? I do not care about whose is you fan . I just wanted to say that athletes in russia,as concerned armwrestling, better than anyone in usa.
In the back pressure he is not pulling at all, he is just placing the handle with both hands into a position where he has the advantage, with the forearm amlost in the same direction than the cable, and then try to stop the weight while the it clearly opens his arm. Again, he is not pulling anything. Cyplenkov pulled the weight with just one arm and taking his forearm almost perpendicular to the cable so the tension was much much bigger.
In the fingers excersice, Cyplenkov had the pulley in a lower angle in comparison to the table so he pulleg a bigger effective % of the weight in the machine. Prudnik kept a bigger angle (higher pulley) so it was easier. And Denis kept the weight for a couple of seconds while Prudnik did it for a couple of milisenconds.
Dont misunderstand me, Prudnik is very strong but far from Denis and the index he got were clearly faked just to create expectation and interest, to get the attention of people.
This's just a hype market trick for his upcoming match. There's no way he has any measurement of strength above Denis. The way Denis do the pulling test was already enough different.
+1
Prudnik max on the toproll = 71kg (not 95kg at all)
Tom G They measured the weight.....so if it showed 80 kg, than it was 80 kg moved, no matter the angle.
Yea the way he was pulling was strange looking. Ill admit im a casual fan so im not 100% sure on these types of pulls. But it seems like the weight would be on forearm, bicep, rear delt and lat correct? Not just the arm basically. If that is so 60kg isnt a shit ton right? I mean i work in lbs but its somewhere around 130lbs (just a estimate) and is that really that heavy? I mean itd be hard but that just doesn't seem like pro athlete level to me when i could probably do 45kgon a normal day as an slightly above average strength man. Maybe ive got it all wrong? Someone fill me and and don't be a dick please lol.
Прудник не какой то отбитый спортсмен, видно что у человека есть и мозги и чувство юмора
Каким там нахер движением мог выиграть Ларрат у Цыпленкова???)))Все прекрасно видели что абсолютно ничего Ларрат ни смог противопоставить Цыпленкову,даже когда Денис дал ему возможность побороться во всех ему удобных углах!!!
Щас кто то скажет что ларат реально нашёл ключ и победил в 7ом раунде
Дерзай Женя. Пусть все получится.
С натяжкой и техника какая то непонятная.. и не тянет он после 70кг а просто держит.. это очень большая разница..
Despite the obvious differences in the technique, table position and handle size, Prudnik is a true beast. His strength for his weight class is phenomenal!!
DENNIS LEVAN AND OTHERS WERE PULLED WITH WIDER HANDLE 70MM NOT 50MM WICH IT MAKES IT EASIER
Λευκός Ήρωας Levan and Denis have much bigger hands, though. So, it evens out. Prudnik kind of held more weight than Denis pulled, but thats perhaps it. He didnt actually outdo him.
@@brentlionakaboldchamp, hey this is my line, why u stole it?
@@DavidDavid-yz2sh I didn't, lol. I don't even remember writing this.....there's mistakes in it, lol, and I never leave those.
Denis is stronger no matter what....
Its very very true.... and im with you bro...
first of all he didn't PULL 85 kg, he held it and barely held it, this measurement is a joke...the amount of speed and distance by which the thing is pulled is ignored in this kind of measurement and if you pull it a few inches it counts...that is not taking into account overall force production in the movement...what you need is what they have in cycling, a power meter...then you can properly find how much power or force each athlete is putting into the peak movement...
If you could find a way to create such a tool, that shows actual power output, I guarantee you not only would it sell incredibly well, but it would far more accurately reflect and show athletic power for this sport
Делитесь этим видео с друзьями, вероятно, что в ТОП 8 может появиться новый герой!
Теперь нужно замерить сколько Денис на статику в натяжке делает)
Очень интересно посмотреть на Лалетина в замерах этих
И остальных конечно же.
Он же просто удерживал эти 94 кг, а не натягивал одной рукой
Спасибо за очень интересный выпуск. ждем следующих видео.
Да и у Прудника диаметр ручки 50мм а остальные делали на 70
Силён. Чтобы сравнивать всех объективно, нужно по одним правилам всем делать.
верно..под одним и тем же углом..
И на одном тренажере
СКОРО ТАКИМИ ТЕМПАМИ ДОГОНИТЕ ВАСИЛИЯ ЖЕЛЕЗНОГО РЕЙТИНГ )
А сколько у него?
Мы ни за ким не гонимся! У нас свой план!
He pull with two hands (and leg press against wall) and then hold. Denis did fucking reps, big difference
And zhock pulled 145kg on back pressure. What a legend
170
170:1,82 idiot
Its a cable machine
Not barbell plate
я однажды поднял одной рукой 104кг так был рад ппц, потом проснулся и стало печально.
Лёха, ты что-ли?
не угадал. а у тебя знакомый Лёха есть с таким же сном ? ))
@@YamomotoSC2TV , ага ))) Воевода Леха
Как же мне нравится эта новая движуха в арме
Having a fixed size strap gives you a leverage advantage as opposed to a strap that is adjustable. To determine true strength in back pressure one must adjust the strap where there is absolute no tension what so ever. No tension from the beginning limits and jerky movement.
he is such a nice guy, thats why devon likes him so much
Double pulley system so any added weight divided by 2, so real weight is 65-70 kg.
Отличный выпуск. Интересный монтаж. Буду болеть за Прудника! Позитивный человек.
One thing people are not taking into account is .. Prudnik might be able to produce a very high amount of force for a little time .. but Denis can maintain a high power for a long time with less effort and that is why he can stonewall people
прудник-лалетин. ждём
Prudnik seems like a good guy...I wish him the best
I been saying prudnik is the future for a year now. his a fkn beast. trust me in a few years time he will be top
The only thing that I see as "suspect" here is the fact that he is basically standing on the weight machine and not the floor. Which could not really be achieved in a match. I'm no structural engineer but it seems like that technique is creating an entirely different mechanic. Changing the fulcrum point so to speak.
Also "the straw that broke the camel's back" in this case weighed 2.5 kilos!? Yikes that's amazing.
Prudnik is a favorite. He and Chaffee need to square off. Matsuchenkov needs to come to America.
И по натяжке все тянули , а не удерживали , Уверен Денис бы за 100 ку легко удержал , Леван тоже
Voilook H.V.V идея хорошая
only proper way to compare these parameters is to measure all armwrestlers results on spot on same machine and setup...then even if measurements arent right and correct at least u have proper comparisson due to everyone pulling under same conditions /on same equipment/setup
only thing left is to make sure no one cheats while.pulling and thats it..
peace
The Coach is a Savant at his craft.. A real pleasure to watch.
Турбин тянул по настоящему, без помощи второй руки и говорил соответственно что на турнире ты себе второй рукой не поможешь ведь. А тут больше статики это совсем другое дело
The strong Prudnik , someone knows his record? And at wath age he started armwrestling?(school) and wath training program uses?
I love this coach. He is such a dad.
When Denis pulled the backpressure exercise he stood on his two legs and pulled it.
When Prudnik did it he brased his foot against something and installed it then hold.
Cyplenkov is Stronger.
Respect to Prudnik 💪
Chicken weighs 30 kg more it is easier to stand on his feet
He's just holding the weight, he's not pulling it like everyone else does.
No big biceps but big and bad ass.
So is his record 85 kg or 94.2 kg? Like what did he measure to weight 94.2 kg? The weight he pulled or the weight that broke the machine (that he didn't get to pull)?
Prudnik you didnt pull 60 kg you held it! I believe Levan did 60 kg with a wrist curl
Блок в натяжке слишком низко опустили, нужно на уровне кисти ставить. Во всяком случае остальные ставили на уровне, параллельно полу.
Пхаха что за бред он несёт, рекордная натяжка у Прудника? Боюсь представить сколько Цыпленков в таком стиле сделает, само слово за себя говорит НАТЯЖКА, а не затащить двумя руками и удерживать упираясь всем телом и ногой в тренажёр.
Да там и натяжки не было. Он же не лучевой пер, там акцент сместился на боковое движение.
In the 2nd exercise he is using his right leg as backpressure so this exercise is not done correctly. Its obviously more difficult to put both legs on the ground. Still very strong
This whole “ this guy pulls more than this guy” doesn’t mean shit when they get to the table and grip up!!!
Мазуренко говорит, что проверка на вес, это для себя. Что те кто тянут много, приезжают и "бум бум, проигрывают". Где, в каком месте это было показано. Леван, денис показывали большие результаты, но не приграли никому еще.
Жека красавчик!
Но для размышления: натяжка делалась в "горизонтальном" положении (тобишь через доп.колесо на себя), а замер делался в "вертикальном" положении (тобишь без использования последнего доп.колеса). Так ведь?
DENIS pulled three times 87.4KG PRUDNIK, pulled 71 kg once, and had his foot against the wall. HE DID NOT PULL CLOSE TO WHAT DENIS PAULLED ??? Denis pulled 16.4kg 2 times extra, 36.8 pounds more Denis is so MUCH stronger. BUT, Prudnik is very strong also, can you imagine Devon trying to wreaser him, he can only pull 49kg.
Wayne
Безграничное уважение Игорю Мазуренко!
Хвастунов надо вместе свести! Так что прудник и гена🤣👍
Тоже об этом подумал)) Но Жека хоть и говорун, но на позитиве!))
Song name 2:55 ?
In real hand and arm pull I like to see what these guys REALLY DO... without 2 hand holds, static, angle changes, body line change... really pull... what they really do
What song at 16:26
Правильно Женя !!! Угол на натяжку разный бывает - прямой и в сторону но там уже уходит нагрузка на связку и битцепс
This isn’t strict back pressure. He is adding side which may give another 20% based on his angle. Denis is strict and would do way more with a side/angle cheat. Same with Levan... still super strong
Needs to be same machine and angle and even at same time. Ever used a machine that needs lubricated? It's heavier. Too many variables. A more accurate test would be something like a strict bicep curl with free weights. And other tests with perfect form using free weights.
I vosen’ t ebol sue the copyright shsh
It is going on, that this does not translate directly to an armwrestling match. That's why Levan will beat anyone.
Прудник делил фунты на 2, чтобы получить кг. 1 фунт = 0.454 кг. 100 фунтов = 45.4 кг а не 50 кг. и т. д.
Why do you need 8 ads, it really puts people off your videos
в зале перемоха полная, у Майкла Бэя столько американских флагов в фильмах нет, а уж он-то знает толк в "патриотизме"
Russian still sounds like their planning WW3. Jokes aside, this guy strong as fuck.
Прудник наследие воли Пушкаря)
как же он качественно делает замеры)))не то что лишь бы как..технарь
Ermes Gasparini ,+ 108 Kg from high angle,yesterday on IG
Монтажеру респект!!!)
The pulley wasn't horizontal like it was Denis and previous.
Is he pulling Or releasing the weight, and Dennis hasn't tried his upper limit. nice video btw.
Почему так много рекламы?? Нельзя нормально видео смотреть
адблок поставь...
Is this some bad joke . Denis pulled it with just one hand , Prudnik used his leg , pulled id with 2 hands instead just one and just hold the weight with one hand. This guy didnt beat anyone.
They are cutting the video every time after puttin the weights; this is some phishy stuff right here
Здравствуйте,можно узнать адрес зала ?буду очень благодарен,в Киеве не могу найти зал для Арма,а тут он появился)))
More than Denis, but with two hands
14:25 - ну наконец то! грамотный подход к замеру(технич. образование рулит), а не мифические килограммы без учета трения. безмен рулит! ;)
Bigger is not always better !
He looks like Devon(body constitution) but younger. This guy is future!
His hand and arm a very close to John breznk he is just alot bigget
Цыпленков ему руку оторвет
Yes different angle, different pull. BUT, he did not pull 75, he pulled it with two hands ??? Also he used his legs up on the table. We need this to be more rules.
Wayne
THIS IS EDUCATIONAL!
nobody else used their feet for backpressure check the difference without a feet
What product is Igor holding at 1:20?
Возможно в параллельной вселенной он и сможет хоть в чём-то побить Дениса, а в этой только пи*дежём😂
Лалетин - Прудник, не?
Женя Женя, сколько обсуждал как другие делали натяжку, а сам сделал хуже всех, красавчик👍
I bet if Denis put in as much effort as everyone did on those tests, we will see how great the gap REALLY is.
I bet he was only using half his strength.
Denis didn't use half strength. Prudnik did more than him cuz his setup was more favourable. Wire was lower and his hands started from completely flexed
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@@thanostitan.infinity If Denis had the exact same set up as Prudnik here he would way more. Hes strong but he doesnt have a stronger hand then Denis. Denis would easily out do him.
Отличное видео.Спасибо Игорь,все просто супер!!! Прудник красавчек)
Прудник молодец, у него есть главное - СИЛА ВОЛИ!!! Силен духом!!!
did you hear it,, he said put on ,music.. Yes...another way to trigger you inner beast.
4:28 💀💀
Why is Igor throwing shade at Devon? We all know he is the 3rd best in the world behind Denis and Levan. LBS do matter in Levans case. Devon would crush Evgeny Prudnik atm. Give Prudnik a couple years and then he might be ready for the TOP-4. Idk if he has the overall size to compete but he is right there.
But as of this second, he is top-8 worthy. IF HE CAN BEAT BRESNAN. Which is totally possible.
22.min prasmotra i 9 reklamnih vstavok,nemnagovato?
У них так на всех видео, самого бесит.
Pull it wid one hand and then release it wid one hand other wise dont try to douge ur self.
добрый вечер.а может быть наши все армрестлеры на проверку силы пальцев и кисти будут проверять и на кистевых эспандерах..начинают пусть например с СОС# 3....
Никогда в жизни
0:38 Igor 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Song at 17:17 is "Intemporelles" by Bertysolo. Does somebody know where i can get this song instrumental? There are only these ugly voices
Good man 👍
ок оказался самым разумным человеком, я всегда думал (вы что делаете , как вы мерите, неправильно. ведь надо фиксировать с обоих сторон для точно веса) , а нет надо рукой тянуть и смотреть сколько кг
Мазуренко сними про Қыдырғали
Это боковое давление, или натяжка?
uvajaiu Prudnika - paren s iumorom. v etom on tochno operejaet Levana i Denisa :)
даже 61 кг ты начал бочиной закидывать, а не лучом и бицепсом.