3D Printing Experiments 01: A $34 3D Printer from Ebay. Tina 2, Monoprice Cadet.
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- And now they are all gone lol. It looks like this video caused about 30 3D printers to sell since there were several listings.
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So awesome to see this - we had customers today asking for this model as fix-up projects. Thank you for sharing!!
Oh hey, it's you! haha
I pinned your comment so it'll be at the top.
NV Liquidation your previous store in ebay now say Sorry, this store is not currently active.
What its the name of your actual store in ebay
Your joy in printing something successfully made my day.
What a lovely style you have; relaxed, informative and without the shouty 'Yo! Bro"
This is perfect, I have a friend wanting to try out printing but isn't ready to go all in for a few hundred just to see if she likes it or not. Great video!
bought this printer for my kid as Christmas present. Performed better than and more reliably than any printer purchase years before. It definitely performed better than the cost. Value was soooo good. still performs flawlessly.
I am very tempted to do what you did but a little weary. Not having a baseline working unit to test with or know where things go is a little worrying. Though I'm pretty confident I can get away with buying the two damaged ones. I haven't used a 3D printer before and I've needed one for a few now.
I got a new tina 2 for $140 so unfortunately I may not have got the best deal lol, but I really like it still. Great first 3d printer, print quality is good for the kind of parts I'm making, pins, mounting plates etc
I love it when a plan comes together.
That was a really good deal. Wish you a lot of success printing a lot of things. Myself have also two printers ( Anycubic X )
$34 probably couldnt buy a new hot end, it always pays to be nice to people, thats the glue that sticks the world together.
everytime you touch the buildplate u need to degreese it because there are oils etc on your hands soo.... it wont stick to it
when using a cold build plate increase your initial layer temp at like 215 for pla and it will stick also slow down the first layer speed , washable glue stick is your bestie if the aforementioned does not yield results. been watching for a long time since backyard at your mom's place. love the channel and all that you cover
Yeah I'm finding slowing it down to no more than 30 on each setting makes it stick well. The reason why I was only using 190 was because this "glass purple" PLA says to not exceed 190C. I tried it later and it smelled really really bad. The other PLA prints much better at 215C, I actually made the first layer 220C
@@RinoaL yeah some filaments don't like getting that hot. I'm guilty of boiling filament every once and a while lol
I have had several cadets. The paper you took of is supposed to be there. You can replace it with blue painters tape . The original came with two extra printer sheets.
I just went the other route, sold my CR 10 to a friend for a small buck, and got a bambu lab P1P. Man, i Never had so much fun with a 3d printer. Does everything by itself, and pumps out things at an amazing speed. A benchy in under 15 minutes? No problem. At last i can focus on printing and designing, and not fiddeling with the printer 😁👍 - but one like yours? I would absolutely get one for my daughter to play with, an amazing little device, especially for your application 👍
I just learned about the P1P today! Sadly if I get any money saved up, it's going into a VR headset like a Vive XR Elite at the moment. haha
Filament from soda bottles - I would recommend trying that with a larger nozzle (it should be pretty easy to throw a 0.8mm nozzle in these without losing a ton of real accuracy) to help prevent clogs (same with wood or carbon fiber filament). You also get the bonus of faster prints that tend to be of higher strength when you use a larger nozzle.
The "paper" on the build plate was masking tape - it was used a lot in the early days of 3d printing to help with bed adhesion especially with cold print beds. No big deal to remove it or replace it.
These are pretty clearly using marlin firmware so if you wanted to upgrade them to newer firmware with some newer features (or just some artificial limits and safety features upgraded), or even changing bed leveling parameters it shouldn't be super difficult.
A non-heated plate is a real bummer, especially for petg. It shouldn't be hard to find a compatible upgrade but I think you'd probably want to upgrade the power supply too. With a heated plate you shouldn't need the brim either. it looked like the fit on the spool arm was a little out of whack, likely due to the skirt/brim.
Love to see a video where you're overflowing with happiness like this!
Oh thanks for the tips, I forgot masking tape was used tbh. I wonder if upgrading the firmware would fix the lcd locking.
And thank you. The good days come rarely but they are coming more often now that life has settled down.
I have a Tina 2 I got used in person for $35 and I love it been running 2 years strong and no issues or mods, original needle . Great print quality. Its rated for 40mm/s print speed and I run 60 easy and it keeps up just fine not a lot of ringing
You're creating the Techmoan effect on the 3D printer market, haha!
Cool little printer. Good for making some small parts :). I love how it sounds. Bzzzzzzzt! Whirrrrrr! Nice to see you so happy.
as a friend pointed out to me 3D printers have gone from being a novelty to being an important workshop tool, there is almost nothing that you cant reproduce with a little effort in creating the design, whatever you need, if you can visualise it you can print it. the last thing I made, - I had an indexing plate with a 24 tooth gear to provide the indexing, i measured the gear and replicated it in plastic for 28 , 30 tooth, 36 tooth and 40 tooth, increasing the range of divisions I can index, it doesnt need the strength as its just using a point into the tooth as a stop setting.
I think the biggest limitation to 3D printers is bad search functions for the files people have already made. Thingiverse and Printables both require a lot of hunting for what was already made.
@@RinoaL I rarely use pre done files for my 3d work, preferring to generate my own CAD file and stl's.
Same, however I'm thinking of what it would take to get 3d printers to really help the world. To be a home appliance as needed as a washing machine, and helping people get away from having to buy things pre-made.
ive always found it a problem to get things to stick to a build plate well especially high objects. using all the blue painters tapes and stuff. ive found a thin layer of pva glue yes it basically glues it to the surface.
3d print the missing parts? good video
I have had a tina 2 for a while its a surprisingly nice machine for its size and price. I would love to get a few more working machines cheap but can't afford the gamble.
its a nice little machine.
I have had great luck with those! Had about ~50 of them at a prior employer (education). Encoders knob wore out quick with kids :( bit it's a quick solder job.
There's new model with a heated build plate and supposedly faster print speed. Waiting on it to ship currently. Saving up for a p1p because that seems to be the goat right now. Hopefully, it's existence with spark another wave of new tech coming out affordably.
I think your missing something. I thought mine had a Mag Plate looks like they put tape right on the magnet??? I will have to find and dig mine out.
I noticed that you shutoff the power while the extruder was at 210°C, please to a cooldown before disconnecting power or you risk damaging the hotend.
Sadly that will happen a lot with this model because the stop-print function doesn't work often either.
I thought I remembered that you could adjust the offset?? you can also try adding a G1 -Z move command and then a "reset relative to 0" command to manually make it print lower?? I THINK that build plate is a raw mag sheet IE you need to put "something" on top of it. what you removed was likely a sheet of masking tape.
An idea would be to add a bit of glue stick to the bed to help it stick. My 1st printer had no heated bed and it helped tremendously!
I still have my davinci 1.0 AiO (I alos have an FLSun f5 which I use to do PLA prints ( the davinci is dedicated to ABS as it has the enclosure needed for that, not a week goes by without me running a 3d print for something (repair my tablet case, washers, small storage pots etc etc.
Neat. Looks like these mostly contain standard-ish components and would make great project printers.
even on my printers I often have to use a glue stick over the bed to get proper adhesion, with ABS I use a slurry of abs dissolved in acetone over the bed to get adhesion.
I used to use the ABS slurry trick too! I'm getting it to print fine with nothing on the bed so far, so we'll see. I do plan to add a little heat eventually though.
My first 3D printer. Bought for 75€ new in a big box store, everything included, even a small spool of filament that you can use to print a holder for a bigger spool of filament. Surprisingly capable for such a small, cheap, simple printer.
Bought one only needed a new fan🎉
Just found out about your channel, loved the video! If you mind me asking, why the aspect ratio isn't wide screen but 4:3?
I just ordered one before even finishing this video
I'm glad to hear that :D
I imagine since this video the bottom has fallen out, i dont see these for less than 50 currently and if they were a bit cheaper id love one as a toy.
Yeah this video got popular and they all sold out in a day
Your gantry doesnt look very level. Fixing it will probably make your prints a lot better. Also, you don't need that much infill, you can always increase your wall multiplier and infill layer multiplier to get something just as strong but prints a lot quicker.
I think this tiny printer just needs a tiny bed-heater, a custom Marlin build (with better ABL code), part cooling and possibly some silent steppers. It's difficult to say for sure from the video, but I get the impression the provided components seem very promising for the price. It's surprising they added a bed-probe, but no heated bed. Also weird how the ABL only seems to probe 3 points, not 4 (or more). At that small bed-size and bowden head, I'd love to see the speeds this could reach with Klipper, but the music you get while printing might give even worse headaches at those speeds (but it would finish faster) ;-) I'd love to see what more you get done with these parts.
If you add the heated bed and stick some plastic to the front and back to close the box and add a $1 all-metal heat-break, this might even print ABS ...
These seem like a good way to get cheap parts for budget DIY builds like the rook 3d printer, the motors, mainboard and maybe the hotend could propably be used in a ROOK
New 3D Print extra Parts and make the Two Printers Work...
Adjust z axis offset for your build plate 😊
Well deserved =) You looked so happy
you need to adjust the extruder to output a little more filament in order to cover any holes in the 3d print especially when setting the first layer also look at getting a deburring tool
Actually it printed fine near the end when I got the z offset dialed in.
For best results on a printer with an unheated build plate use a glue stick, Elmers works fine, throw a thin film on the plate and that will resolve the adhesion problem. Snag a spool holder and you will be good to go. Or grab a Wham Bam build plate, but they are gonna cost more that the printers combined for one.
They're like $80+ now... I just looked
They are back on ebay
awe they have gone up in price since you got it except for some broken 39.99 1s, glad it worked out for you :D
Just checked, still available for $6 discount. As I said in the video, you have to buy two.
@@RinoaL haha I'm just blind and deaf and didn't reach that part of the video yet, no worries, i just gotta see if my bank can afford to gamble on 1 right now, thanks for letting us know they exist! Next cheapest 3d printer has half the features and is $25 more
What a cute LGBQT couple.
the bed leveling is not leveling on the flex bed. it's leveling on the bed underneeth. you need to adjust the "z offset" on the printer in order to adjust for the different flex materials you use
Yeah I figured it might be something like that, but only tinkered with it later. Tired brain after all.
Wish you much fun with the two little printer. Later on you will have bigger ones like me 😄😂
I've already had bigger ones, and currently have bigger ones at the makerspace. I started with a Stratasys Dimension Elite, and never want to go to a large printer like that again. hahaha
That's a good deal
even with my pei sheet I put glue, maybe u should do the same ???
When you mentioned it being a washer, I think that's what you said, it made we want to tear my dryer apart (because it's side load) and build a 3D printer inside it. 😂
hahaha That's funny, but what I meant was that I imagine using this to print washers, for bolts and stuff. I tend to drill holes in pennies to make washers as well.
The "music" at around 29:00 reminds me of Koka Nikoladze's music box (self applauding machine?). It's on YT, give it a listen if you like those sounds!
Make a radio controlled airplane, I think they have free down loads .... And how is Bill doing ?
2nd
Just ordered a basic. Any good community sites for help?
Well for starters here are the Cura profiles I uploaded. That should help a lot. Seems we're the only community. haha archive.org/details/weedo-cura-definitions
Interesting mic placement!
I find it makes my voice sound like how I hear it!
put some hairspray for better stick
glass purple prints well.
They are 200 Euros now… what a pity…
Weedo is just one name of all those others. I own a Weedo X40 IDEX printer and there’s a rather large community for it. They also put them out under the Entina name. They’re several models of printers they make.
Build a voron 0.1!
Weedo is real. they also have the X40 and the ME40 printers (multi and single extruder 334 printers) but yeah that printer is probably "white boxed" and OEM'd by multiple companies. I am not sure who the original source is.
can you please share link where to fin it ?
It's literally the first result on ebay.
Can you share that file with me?
I found it on Printables www.printables.com/model/220265-entina-weedo-monoprice-tina-2-cadet-1kg-spool-hold
why is this 159$ now
because they all got bought
today they are $114 to $300!!!
Yeah everybody bought all the cheap ones.
Print off a bigger RepRap?
Project 1: spool holder
And I know bits of Andy D's song "Hey Tina".
Transfer card? TransFlash. The Pre-SD name.
...solid disk?
...transfer flash?
I can search just fine put up or shut up....provide a link!
Obviously. You win. This ebay search collator shows it on the first result. magiesimonroy.ca/
not the duct tape lol
No where are these listed new or $34 !!!😡😡😡
Just checked, still available. learn to search better. It's the first listing that comes up on ebay when I search "Tina 2"
Can't seem to find. Seller name?
I just grabbed a Creatbot Mini for $50! A cartesian bed dropper, with all metal direct drive, and fully enclosed? Pretty amazing!
Where?
@@druckza ebay
I see no completed listings for createbot minis on ebay within the past 3 months.
@@RinoaL Pretty bummed I missed the deal you shared. My 3 year old would go nuts for one of these!
Yeah all of ebay's stock sold out overnight due to my video, but don't worry, I'm talking with the seller. They have hundreds of these yet to sell and it's just a matter of them testing them and sorting them. So the deal will come back again.
OMG. Who are you, the most adorable 🏳🌈 on the Internet?
Possibly. Also I moonlight as an Elezen in Final Fantasy XIV and in VR.
Weedo lol
I wish my ender 3 was self leveling lol it gives me the absolute shits.
the paper was so it would stick
I've been so tempted to get one of these to mess around with. I totally get what you mean when you mentioned the noise! I've got a Bambu lab now and it's great and all but when I go back and use my creator pro it reminds me of the old days. I guess with modern advancements things have gotten too easy now, time for the tina challenge!
This would be great for modding:
Heated bed
New board with silent stepper drivers
Update Marlin
Adapt hotend to use E3D V6 and all metal heatbreak (I have pet birds so PTFE tubes directly touching hot nozzles is a big no-no)
CHT nozzle
G10 build plate
Attempt to get Octoprint working
just put the passthrough board on the printer with wifi
Im sure you have learned alot since making this video.
Its pretty crazy how accessable 3d printing is now to people. They are pretty simple to work on aswell.
Get yourself a cheap food dehydrator and slap your spools in it for like 10 hours and it will dry it out and revive the filament
Also it seems like it uses the same type of nozzle that like a ender uses Im not sure if it has an all metal hotend Id doubt it but those nozzles are a dime a dozen Id really suggest having a good amount on hand they are cheap and it helps with not having to wait for parts in the mail.
Well I already know 3D printing, I used to do it professionally as part of my job in 2016, and now Ive been getting work at a local makerspace doing it, but I decided it was finally time to get a new 3D printer after all these years
@@RinoaL oh ok. Printing has come along way for sure. My first printer was one of those anet a8 acrylic frame printers.
That’s a good deal u got there. 👍 thanks for sharing
Great printer after a few fixes. The extruder fan often fail which cause the PTFE tube to melt and clog the nozzle. So if you can change it for a 30x30x20mm fan it's even better. The bed sensor also faile often and finally the plastic that hold screw where the bed belt bearing is tends to crack and break to you can grind all the plastic, drill a hole and put in sandwich to metal plates to holde a longer screw. Apart from this, everything work perfectly
Thanks for the heads up!
Z offset setting in tune area to make sure first layer is working. If it doesn't have that setting, prob want to update marlin firmware. Also if it doesn't have z offers won't have thermal runaway, which you def want
Yeah I do the z offset later in the video.