I love this. I make my own builds and sometimes there crappy but that makes the game fun for me. Most of my builds fall off around t14 so im trying to get over that hurdle
i think another, more 'meta' thing to keep in mind is the assessment of new/reworked content each patch. i started harvest as an ice crash raider because i saw damage effectiveness buffs and other tools that could enable an underused ascendancy. i knew it would probably overall be secondary to other versions of the build but base tree/item parameters was plenty for the endgame, and also helped me understand what raider did that others didn't. so the journey of path builds is an almost never ending quest for game knowledge that also evolves each patch dynamically with countless other aspects of the game. phew. thanks for the vid!
The way I learned making builds was different back in the day: 1. I basically started in phase 4 by just playing an architype I knew from other games would be my kind of thing and should in theory work because it's a simple concept. 2. When ever I hit a wall I would check guides of the same or similar builds, or videos discussing/explaining a problem I had (more vs increased for example) 3. I would then go to yoji's phase 3-4 and branch out from the area I already knew, in all directions, always cross referencing guides with any problem I had, or checking with more experienced players. 4. This over some time lead me to yoji's phase 5, where I've been now for a while. And let me tell you, making a meme-build that you just do because you think an interaction is cool, and it turns out way stronger than expected, is an amazing feeling. What I did is the hard way, and I would highly recommend to start with a guide, unless you really are the type of person that rather wants to "learn on their own", because the first build will be shit at the start, and there won't be much money to fix it, cause it's too weak to run more profitable content.
That's how i've been playing my first character so far I just hopped into the game a couple of weeks ago and i enjoyed ice shot and the deadeye so i went with those Now i'm starting the endgame content (just got to tier 5 maps) and everytime i find my build not being good enough anymore i just go and check either a build guide or poe.ninja to see what other people did with that skill and ascendency. That way, for example, i learnt that the Death's Opus is a thing and so i got it
I also try to do the same thing,I learned the core of how skills activate, dmg is calcualted, how some basic interactions are made , and then just always tryd to wing it with a skill i found appealing. When getting stuck i turned to guides to sort and get through the barrier. But i find my main problem is time in itself. I usualy play 1 league (about 2 months) and then i won't touch the game for a year In the time of the 1 year so many mechanics /items even interactions change that you have to start learning from scratch again. SO yeah if you are a casual player and you don't want the challenge/struggle to always inventing the well, just follow a guide :
I've been making my own build since day one. Everytime i tried someone else's build, i found myself giving up the char too early. Only the builds I made have made it to end-game
I’ve never really played PoE.. but if I had to, I would like to make my own builds. Maybe it’s not gonna be top notch competitive, but if I can get the knowledge on how to create a playstyle that’s compatible with my own style, that’s an immense freedom and fun to have. And the prolonged fun is to optimize and refine it.
Been playing since synthesis got introduced to ps4 which is also how I play the game . Following builds is great, especially when you find one that really pops for you, but the satisfaction of a build idea you created going to red maps and above is bar none a great feeling to strive for in PoE . I'm currently working on a spellslinger project with my son using arc/WoC/ storm brand and so far we're having a great time and the build feels punchy on ps4 =)
Wow this is first time i seen a video abut how to build your own build. cool. i'm honestly waiting for POE 2.0 before jumping back into POE but if i played more often i'd love to learn how to build my own unique build rather then following others without realizing before end game it's crap and i wasted my time.
Finding multiple hours worth of time without any interruptions is super difficult with a newborn and an 8 year old in the same appartment. Video editing and recording is way more forgiving when it comes to that :)
@@ItsYoji completely understand. I have a 5 month old myself so super relating. Thanks for the update and in meanwhile the UA-cam videos are great. ,👍👍👍👍
PoE noob here and can say I built the most brick wall of a character. The ONLY reason i made it past piety and first 5 acts is vitality. Without that skill, impossible. So ive kinda given up on ot due to it being all over the place. And vitality possibly getting nerfed hard. Its a set and forget skill that has no risk reward or niche. Currently trying the toxic rain+caustic arrow ranger and loving it. But rng is not allowing me to progress with that as of right now. So im possibly gonna just start from scratch again and the ranger build opened my eyes as to what i was lacking with my first build. I can mob clear with the first one, easily but bosses not at all. I love the game and i enjoy it even though i have a LOT of progress to make. Cant wait to get a pc. Its kimda bad on console.
I had the same issue with my first (and only) char so far in PoE. I had amazing waveclear and it was a ton of fun, but bosses would just not fall at some point and my low vitality would make me a onehit at some point. I think i got to act 7 or so which was almost endgame back in the day, but was absolutely brick walled at some point there..
hmm..I got a question that I tried searching for and nothing came up. Do you know if unique boss map mods effect Metamorph bosses? I would assume no but I would love to know for sure. hate getting one shot and wondering if it was the boss mod lol.
i recently changed my build style after 1700 hours of playing cyclone till it go nerfed, now over 200 hours into a ele witch phys impale carrion golem build and loving every second, the only boss i havent beaten yet is sirus A8 and it was a close call
I made a crappy build once, bleed bow deadeye. It was fun to mess with it even though it was horrible haha. With the right now, it would only have a puncture bleed of 2.1 mil shaper dps (not sure if that’s Mac stacks or per stack, not sure how bleed works in POB.) and 700k split arrow dps at level 90 it only had 4.7k life but had amazing evade and dodge %. Alas it was only theory crafted and I never had guts to try it. I may try on standard to check it out sometime
I learned to build my characters by just getting really good with Path of Building. There are three general rules I use for determining if a build is good for me. One: The build should have no less than 3-4 defensive layers. Two: The build should hit at least 7k+ effective life Three: The build needs to do at least 3 million Shaper DPS. (Remember that 200k+ is viable for endgame content, but, you really need to know your monster mechanics and having such low of damage makes a lot of encounters much more janky than they have to be) Honestly at this point I think I enjoy Path of Building more than actually playing the game sometimes.
I have the reverse problem. I feel like I am not having fun if I don’t get to make all the choices myself. I’m still on act 5 on my first playthrough but I have not followed any actual guides. I understand that maybe I will at some point hit a wall, but I’ll cross that bridge when I get there. Making the choices is the actual fun part of the gameplay. I don’t want to take that away from myself.
I'm glad you didn't act like it's super easy to do like most people. I get so frustrated when i decide to play in a league,, follow a build,, do ok but people tell me i'm a loser or lame in chat for whatever reason because i don't want to do a build from scratch and follow others builds. people constantly say why bother playing if you follow other peoples builds. That just annoys me because i play like once every other league since POE released, i got a life out side of POE, i have other games i play, i'm simply not going to play this game every single league like some people do, therefore i simply do not have the knowledge to build from scratch, when i try, i end up missing out on all the cool end-game content which is the best part of POE, doing campaign for the 100th time isn't fun to me. But part why i'm just waiting for 2.0 now before i give POE another go. I just hate the elitest attitudes in chat sometimes saying i'm stupid if i can't do my own builds from scratch.
If you want to quickly improve at making strong builds frostblink brands might not be on the top of my list for recommended builds .... For meme points it is pretty up there though :D
@@ItsYoji I'll keep my eye out for someone making a guide I can follow instead then :D Seriously though, imagine if Arcanist Brand with travel skill like Lightning Warp or Body Swap teleported the enemy the brand was attached to rather than yourself.. ;)
My first ever character loosely followed a guide and I've read guides in general to see good builds and get ideas.... But ultimately, what taught me the most about the game is the builds I made myself that failed or at least were not quite as good as I expected. Everytime that happens it teaches me one or even several lesssons about builds and mechanics, and that knowledge helps me improve later builds. Even now, it still happens especially since I quite enjoy weird clunky ideas that probably noone should try. Just this league I made some Elementalist Warcry Doryani's fist build.... Sure it's fun making huge Dominus Slam and the damage is there but the suvivability is.... QUITE AWFUL.
ive been playing summoners now for about 4 years, this time round i finally made a skelly build and its single target is actually a joke. 1 Phase of A8 sirus can sometimes take 5 seconds. However, im now sick of summoners but cannot find anything with the same sustain and single target DPS. I likes a CoC cyclone ice nova clear speed but nothing else. I dont know what to do and am really struggling with burnout now too :( really sad stuff
Yeah sometimes it can be difficult to find a build or playtyle you want to try for quite some time. Othertimes build ideas comes super easy. Maybe take a break for a bit or even a league. Or wait for that new skills come with next patch :)
I think i skipped Phase one completely in my years playing, i never liked copying builds, even when i play MTG, i hate netdecking, but i get what you mean. a long time ago i copied this one build, burning spectres, melted all content, only build i ever built myself that came close was a Rain of Arrows Bleed Gladiator, using crimson storm
I only play true ethical SSF hardcore. I delete every meta unique I find because it is unethical to keep it. When my character dies, I delete every item in every stash tab because it's not true ethical SSF hardcore otherwise. I Vorici break every six-link I land because it is unrealistic to ever six-link an item in true ethical SSF hardcore. I skip the Labyrinth because Ascendency Classes are unethical powerhouses. Every time a Vaal Orb drops, I immediately use it on a randomly equipped piece of gear to increase the challenge. I've had global chat and trade chat disabled since I got my beta invite back in 0.9.2d, the Merveil fireball optimisation and curse duration patch, because player interaction gave too much advantage. I've sent at least 84 emails to GGG support over the years asking for unlimited ignore player space so I can make sure that no one talks to me when I'm in town. I read and listen to every lorestone, notes, books to fully immerse myself in the true ethical SSF hardcore experience. Every time I go into this general and read the word "meta", "trading", "blade flurry", "clear speed", "Headhunter", so on and so on, I make sure to thrust my giant vibrating dildo one to three times to punish myself accordingly for tainting my TESSFHC experience. I've stolen at least a dozen credit cards from my parents to pay for the 3,250 normal stash tabs that I have to show my support for GGG and the true hardcore game that they have developed. It deeply saddens me that PT left, he was the only one that spoke only truth. Why do you self-proclaimed SSF hardcores even try to pretend that you're truly SSF hardcore? You make me fucking sick.
Or you can do what Ive been doing so far and bang your head against the proverbial brick wall until something gives. That is, learn the hard way by using only the wiki and no guides :3 Not recommended...
I mean as long as you enjoy said head-to-wall action you do you. But one should not think that following a guide and learning from makes you in any way a worse player. Something I found some people might feel when it is complete nonsense. Take the game at your own pace no matter if that is super fast or really slow :)
Step 1 is fine, but not totally accurate. Because it's just not a necessary step at all. I have never in my life followed a net-build. Much less copy it directly fully. It's perfectly fine to do so, and can be helpful to learn. But not a requirement or that important. Many of those are from users who never followed a net-build themselves before making guides.
Sorry for correcting you , but there aren't 21 ascendancies to choose from but rather 19. Three from each basic six classes and only one for the Scion ; (3x6)+1 =19 The rest or your presentation is mostly about having realistic goals and what can be a reasonable timeline on which we can expect to reach those goals , and on this point i agree. BUT ... their is a huge point you are avoiding here , which is the ingame currency cost involved in gearing a build so that it is able to reach the latest parts of the atlas. Fact of the matter is that acquiring wealth ingame can be tedious at times and some people just don't want to put the time and effort to do the leg work and may resort to use RMT. Some claims have been made that GGG bans those using these , but mind me pointing out that Tencent literally owns GGG at this point ? Which is why i say build guides are noob traps. I often suggest to watch 3-4 different videos about the same archetype and to make our own from there on , which is something i still do from time to time. I'm a bit disappointed that Engineered Eternity gave up on making his build guides cause he had a very we thought out way of explaining most of the ingame mechanics , but i understand the time requirement and the low returns that these may have. None the less , thanks for sharing and keep up the good work :-)
I would suggest the SSF way so the builder who is still learning will find creative ways especially in crafting to achieve their goal in building their character rather than depend on the market. Crafting in this game is insane and not friendly for beginners hence the noob-trap economy for the uninitiated. Some people just don't play patiently, they just want to dive right in - level up and buy the overpowered items necessary for their builds based off on some popular cookie cutter builds. That's pretty much it. Trying to learn the mechanics in building is just overwhelming for most people I guess let alone the mechanics on every league in the game.
@@darkpowerman8433 I have about 1.7 mil impale DPS minimum 85 resist, 5000 HP and 13000 armor with flask and 2500 evasion im dying A LOT with that, my axe worth 30 exalts and its 7 link, i would play around with game if i could try out builds but to i completed game 5 times with 6,7 exalteds dropped including mapps on all of them, very poor reward system.
I have a very strong problem in blindly following a build guide in this game. If i wanna just copy paste something that someone else has worked out - why bother with PoE? Why not play Diablo 3, haveing a far less complex game wich has been perfectly balanced for the predefined builds everyone uses? On the other hand i totaly get why it makes sense to first properly learn for someone that went all the way, before choosing your own path. But i dont think that i wanna invest a whole year or two playing this game without actualy having fun of its unique selling point: Its complexity. Wich is kind of a circle that stops me from playing it at the moment.
I use to do that when I was young when I was introduced to pen and paper games like D&D. Id spend hours rolling character sheets, maps, Item ideas, etc.. ...and have little to no enthusiasm to actually use them once I'd think to try. I just had way too much enjoyment in creating things.
Thumbs down! Fake! Not an actual guide on how to build. It's a guide that tells you to look at a guide. Which is a total contradiction. Then says use it and test it on your own. Which anybody can do without needing any guide. So wtf? OK so let's say rather than look up a guide to learn to build. Which is the whole point. You instead look up a guide on a completed build and how it works. You're still just taking longer to learn something. Than just a legitimate guide on how to build from scratch. Like a general advice for current Standard HC for point distribution. How much to put into defense vs offense points.
@@ItsYoji No because what I am saying applies to anybody. Doesn't matter about 8 weeks so wtf? The idea is simply to learn how to build a character. This is a fake guide that does not show anybody how to do a lick of it. If wanting to simply plan a character. Good thing there's actual real guides that explain the process. Not just saying to play whatever and see if it is any good. Which devoids the entire point of - guide..As you do not need a guide to try to figure out how to do it on your own. Oh will you look at that. I found an actual "real" guide. Some of the info is no good. But most of it is quite good. And valid even more than many fold past 8 weeks. Because it's an actual guide on how to build a character. The video above is BS. It is no way in hell a real guide. It's completely fake. It doesn't guide anything. Just says to look at some other user build. Not how to build yourself. ua-cam.com/video/9i2o2wW7xbQ/v-deo.html
I love this. I make my own builds and sometimes there crappy but that makes the game fun for me. Most of my builds fall off around t14 so im trying to get over that hurdle
That’s not a bad run to get to.
i think another, more 'meta' thing to keep in mind is the assessment of new/reworked content each patch. i started harvest as an ice crash raider because i saw damage effectiveness buffs and other tools that could enable an underused ascendancy. i knew it would probably overall be secondary to other versions of the build but base tree/item parameters was plenty for the endgame, and also helped me understand what raider did that others didn't. so the journey of path builds is an almost never ending quest for game knowledge that also evolves each patch dynamically with countless other aspects of the game. phew. thanks for the vid!
The way I learned making builds was different back in the day:
1. I basically started in phase 4 by just playing an architype I knew from other games would be my kind of thing and should in theory work because it's a simple concept.
2. When ever I hit a wall I would check guides of the same or similar builds, or videos discussing/explaining a problem I had (more vs increased for example)
3. I would then go to yoji's phase 3-4 and branch out from the area I already knew, in all directions, always cross referencing guides with any problem I had, or checking with more experienced players.
4. This over some time lead me to yoji's phase 5, where I've been now for a while. And let me tell you, making a meme-build that you just do because you think an interaction is cool, and it turns out way stronger than expected, is an amazing feeling.
What I did is the hard way, and I would highly recommend to start with a guide, unless you really are the type of person that rather wants to "learn on their own", because the first build will be shit at the start, and there won't be much money to fix it, cause it's too weak to run more profitable content.
That's how i've been playing my first character so far
I just hopped into the game a couple of weeks ago and i enjoyed ice shot and the deadeye so i went with those
Now i'm starting the endgame content (just got to tier 5 maps) and everytime i find my build not being good enough anymore i just go and check either a build guide or poe.ninja to see what other people did with that skill and ascendency. That way, for example, i learnt that the Death's Opus is a thing and so i got it
I also try to do the same thing,I learned the core of how skills activate, dmg is calcualted, how some basic interactions are made , and then just always tryd to wing it with a skill i found appealing. When getting stuck i turned to guides to sort and get through the barrier. But i find my main problem is time in itself. I usualy play 1 league (about 2 months) and then i won't touch the game for a year
In the time of the 1 year so many mechanics /items even interactions change that you have to start learning from scratch again.
SO yeah if you are a casual player and you don't want the challenge/struggle to always inventing the well, just follow a guide :
this is super helpful @itsyoji, thank you so much for sharing your experience!!
The Bear Trap dream is alive!
I've been making my own build since day one. Everytime i tried someone else's build, i found myself giving up the char too early. Only the builds I made have made it to end-game
i had to recount the ascendancies 3 times, there's 19 not 21 lol
Scion has 3 usable ones which makes it 21 :^)
@@ItsYoji I still remember the Scion ascendancy naming video :)
@@tthompson5707 Me too! Radiator, Assophant, Assraider hahaha
I’ve never really played PoE.. but if I had to, I would like to make my own builds. Maybe it’s not gonna be top notch competitive, but if I can get the knowledge on how to create a playstyle that’s compatible with my own style, that’s an immense freedom and fun to have. And the prolonged fun is to optimize and refine it.
Been playing since synthesis got introduced to ps4 which is also how I play the game . Following builds is great, especially when you find one that really pops for you, but the satisfaction of a build idea you created going to red maps and above is bar none a great feeling to strive for in PoE . I'm currently working on a spellslinger project with my son using arc/WoC/ storm brand and so far we're having a great time and the build feels punchy on ps4 =)
Wow this is first time i seen a video abut how to build your own build. cool. i'm honestly waiting for POE 2.0 before jumping back into POE but if i played more often i'd love to learn how to build my own unique build rather then following others without realizing before end game it's crap and i wasted my time.
You forgot to tell them that you need to watch two years of your videos :-)
Greetings from Arg, exile!
Hey :)
Great discussion as always. Keep up the good work. When are you back streaming?
Finding multiple hours worth of time without any interruptions is super difficult with a newborn and an 8 year old in the same appartment. Video editing and recording is way more forgiving when it comes to that :)
@@ItsYoji completely understand. I have a 5 month old myself so super relating. Thanks for the update and in meanwhile the UA-cam videos are great. ,👍👍👍👍
PoE noob here and can say I built the most brick wall of a character. The ONLY reason i made it past piety and first 5 acts is vitality. Without that skill, impossible. So ive kinda given up on ot due to it being all over the place. And vitality possibly getting nerfed hard. Its a set and forget skill that has no risk reward or niche. Currently trying the toxic rain+caustic arrow ranger and loving it. But rng is not allowing me to progress with that as of right now. So im possibly gonna just start from scratch again and the ranger build opened my eyes as to what i was lacking with my first build. I can mob clear with the first one, easily but bosses not at all. I love the game and i enjoy it even though i have a LOT of progress to make. Cant wait to get a pc. Its kimda bad on console.
I had the same issue with my first (and only) char so far in PoE. I had amazing waveclear and it was a ton of fun, but bosses would just not fall at some point and my low vitality would make me a onehit at some point. I think i got to act 7 or so which was almost endgame back in the day, but was absolutely brick walled at some point there..
hmm..I got a question that I tried searching for and nothing came up. Do you know if unique boss map mods effect Metamorph bosses? I would assume no but I would love to know for sure. hate getting one shot and wondering if it was the boss mod lol.
Just got to 6k hours played.
This video is almost identical to how I experimented as well.
Wedu, Ambulances and But Yoji's.
i recently changed my build style after 1700 hours of playing cyclone till it go nerfed, now over 200 hours into a ele witch phys impale carrion golem build and loving every second, the only boss i havent beaten yet is sirus A8 and it was a close call
I made a crappy build once, bleed bow deadeye. It was fun to mess with it even though it was horrible haha. With the right now, it would only have a puncture bleed of 2.1 mil shaper dps (not sure if that’s Mac stacks or per stack, not sure how bleed works in POB.) and 700k split arrow dps at level 90 it only had 4.7k life but had amazing evade and dodge %. Alas it was only theory crafted and I never had guts to try it. I may try on standard to check it out sometime
I learned to build my characters by just getting really good with Path of Building. There are three general rules I use for determining if a build is good for me.
One: The build should have no less than 3-4 defensive layers.
Two: The build should hit at least 7k+ effective life
Three: The build needs to do at least 3 million Shaper DPS. (Remember that 200k+ is viable for endgame content, but, you really need to know your monster mechanics and having such low of damage makes a lot of encounters much more janky than they have to be)
Honestly at this point I think I enjoy Path of Building more than actually playing the game sometimes.
Those are some really good benchmarks to aim for imo, thanks for sharing :)
@@ItsYoji Dam, first ever Yoji reply :*) . You just made my day thanks bro.
I have the reverse problem. I feel like I am not having fun if I don’t get to make all the choices myself. I’m still on act 5 on my first playthrough but I have not followed any actual guides. I understand that maybe I will at some point hit a wall, but I’ll cross that bridge when I get there. Making the choices is the actual fun part of the gameplay. I don’t want to take that away from myself.
I'm glad you didn't act like it's super easy to do like most people. I get so frustrated when i decide to play in a league,, follow a build,, do ok but people tell me i'm a loser or lame in chat for whatever reason because i don't want to do a build from scratch and follow others builds. people constantly say why bother playing if you follow other peoples builds. That just annoys me because i play like once every other league since POE released, i got a life out side of POE, i have other games i play, i'm simply not going to play this game every single league like some people do, therefore i simply do not have the knowledge to build from scratch, when i try, i end up missing out on all the cool end-game content which is the best part of POE, doing campaign for the 100th time isn't fun to me. But part why i'm just waiting for 2.0 now before i give POE another go. I just hate the elitest attitudes in chat sometimes saying i'm stupid if i can't do my own builds from scratch.
So basically you're telling me now is not the time for frostblink brands?
If you want to quickly improve at making strong builds frostblink brands might not be on the top of my list for recommended builds ....
For meme points it is pretty up there though :D
@@ItsYoji I'll keep my eye out for someone making a guide I can follow instead then :D
Seriously though, imagine if Arcanist Brand with travel skill like Lightning Warp or Body Swap teleported the enemy the brand was attached to rather than yourself.. ;)
Fast 'n Easy!
Quite the opposite actually. Takes long and it is pretty difficult. Maybe I should rethink how those 5 step lists work :D
@@ItsYoji I know :) But my comment sure was.
@@Tom-zc1ot Touché
My first ever character loosely followed a guide and I've read guides in general to see good builds and get ideas....
But ultimately, what taught me the most about the game is the builds I made myself that failed or at least were not quite as good as I expected. Everytime that happens it teaches me one or even several lesssons about builds and mechanics, and that knowledge helps me improve later builds.
Even now, it still happens especially since I quite enjoy weird clunky ideas that probably noone should try. Just this league I made some Elementalist Warcry Doryani's fist build.... Sure it's fun making huge Dominus Slam and the damage is there but the suvivability is.... QUITE AWFUL.
ive been playing summoners now for about 4 years, this time round i finally made a skelly build and its single target is actually a joke. 1 Phase of A8 sirus can sometimes take 5 seconds. However, im now sick of summoners but cannot find anything with the same sustain and single target DPS. I likes a CoC cyclone ice nova clear speed but nothing else. I dont know what to do and am really struggling with burnout now too :( really sad stuff
Yeah sometimes it can be difficult to find a build or playtyle you want to try for quite some time. Othertimes build ideas comes super easy. Maybe take a break for a bit or even a league. Or wait for that new skills come with next patch :)
how should i lvl a build that cat do lvling
Ask the cat? idk :D
looks like you're gonna have to buy regret orbs i guess
I think i skipped Phase one completely in my years playing, i never liked copying builds, even when i play MTG, i hate netdecking, but i get what you mean.
a long time ago i copied this one build, burning spectres, melted all content, only build i ever built myself that came close was a Rain of Arrows Bleed Gladiator, using crimson storm
I only play true ethical SSF hardcore. I delete every meta unique I find because it is unethical to keep it. When my character dies, I delete every item in every stash tab because it's not true ethical SSF hardcore otherwise. I Vorici break every six-link I land because it is unrealistic to ever six-link an item in true ethical SSF hardcore. I skip the Labyrinth because Ascendency Classes are unethical powerhouses. Every time a Vaal Orb drops, I immediately use it on a randomly equipped piece of gear to increase the challenge. I've had global chat and trade chat disabled since I got my beta invite back in 0.9.2d, the Merveil fireball optimisation and curse duration patch, because player interaction gave too much advantage. I've sent at least 84 emails to GGG support over the years asking for unlimited ignore player space so I can make sure that no one talks to me when I'm in town. I read and listen to every lorestone, notes, books to fully immerse myself in the true ethical SSF hardcore experience. Every time I go into this general and read the word "meta", "trading", "blade flurry", "clear speed", "Headhunter", so on and so on, I make sure to thrust my giant vibrating dildo one to three times to punish myself accordingly for tainting my TESSFHC experience. I've stolen at least a dozen credit cards from my parents to pay for the 3,250 normal stash tabs that I have to show my support for GGG and the true hardcore game that they have developed. It deeply saddens me that PT left, he was the only one that spoke only truth. Why do you self-proclaimed SSF hardcores even try to pretend that you're truly SSF hardcore? You make me fucking sick.
Hahahaha
I remember this copy pasta
Or you can do what Ive been doing so far and bang your head against the proverbial brick wall until something gives. That is, learn the hard way by using only the wiki and no guides :3
Not recommended...
I mean as long as you enjoy said head-to-wall action you do you. But one should not think that following a guide and learning from makes you in any way a worse player. Something I found some people might feel when it is complete nonsense. Take the game at your own pace no matter if that is super fast or really slow :)
how to start making your own build
step 1: Follow a build
First!
Step 1 is fine, but not totally accurate. Because it's just not a necessary step at all. I have never in my life followed a net-build. Much less copy it directly fully. It's perfectly fine to do so, and can be helpful to learn. But not a requirement or that important. Many of those are from users who never followed a net-build themselves before making guides.
Sorry for correcting you , but there aren't 21 ascendancies to choose from but rather 19.
Three from each basic six classes and only one for the Scion ; (3x6)+1 =19
The rest or your presentation is mostly about having realistic goals and what can be a reasonable timeline on which we can expect to reach those goals , and on this point i agree.
BUT ... their is a huge point you are avoiding here , which is the ingame currency cost involved in gearing a build so that it is able to reach the latest parts of the atlas. Fact of the matter is that acquiring wealth ingame can be tedious at times and some people just don't want to put the time and effort to do the leg work and may resort to use RMT. Some claims have been made that GGG bans those using these , but mind me pointing out that Tencent literally owns GGG at this point ? Which is why i say build guides are noob traps. I often suggest to watch 3-4 different videos about the same archetype and to make our own from there on , which is something i still do from time to time.
I'm a bit disappointed that Engineered Eternity gave up on making his build guides cause he had a very we thought out way of explaining most of the ingame mechanics , but i understand the time requirement and the low returns that these may have.
None the less , thanks for sharing and keep up the good work :-)
I would suggest the SSF way so the builder who is still learning will find creative ways especially in crafting to achieve their goal in building their character rather than depend on the market. Crafting in this game is insane and not friendly for beginners hence the noob-trap economy for the uninitiated. Some people just don't play patiently, they just want to dive right in - level up and buy the overpowered items necessary for their builds based off on some popular cookie cutter builds. That's pretty much it. Trying to learn the mechanics in building is just overwhelming for most people I guess let alone the mechanics on every league in the game.
Or you can do it like a real man and make around 10 failed builds to understand the game
The Scientific Method
Step 6, if you dont plan to play 4000 hours, dont even try
as a person who has played the game over 1000 hours and still cant make a viable build i can confirm
@@darkpowerman8433 I have about 1.7 mil impale DPS minimum 85 resist, 5000 HP and 13000 armor with flask and 2500 evasion im dying A LOT with that, my axe worth 30 exalts and its 7 link, i would play around with game if i could try out builds but to i completed game 5 times with 6,7 exalteds dropped including mapps on all of them, very poor reward system.
I have a very strong problem in blindly following a build guide in this game.
If i wanna just copy paste something that someone else has worked out - why bother with PoE? Why not play Diablo 3, haveing a far less complex game wich has been perfectly balanced for the predefined builds everyone uses?
On the other hand i totaly get why it makes sense to first properly learn for someone that went all the way, before choosing your own path. But i dont think that i wanna invest a whole year or two playing this game without actualy having fun of its unique selling point: Its complexity. Wich is kind of a circle that stops me from playing it at the moment.
Tbh I play a lot more PoB than PoE
Pob is a pretty good game I heard.
I use to do that when I was young when I was introduced to pen and paper games like D&D.
Id spend hours rolling character sheets, maps, Item ideas, etc.. ...and have little to no enthusiasm to actually use them once I'd think to try.
I just had way too much enjoyment in creating things.
Thumbs down! Fake! Not an actual guide on how to build. It's a guide that tells you to look at a guide. Which is a total contradiction. Then says use it and test it on your own. Which anybody can do without needing any guide. So wtf?
OK so let's say rather than look up a guide to learn to build. Which is the whole point. You instead look up a guide on a completed build and how it works. You're still just taking longer to learn something. Than just a legitimate guide on how to build from scratch.
Like a general advice for current Standard HC for point distribution. How much to put into defense vs offense points.
This video is generally useful information and still relevant now.
What you suggest will be outdated in 8 weeks.
@@ItsYoji No because what I am saying applies to anybody. Doesn't matter about 8 weeks so wtf? The idea is simply to learn how to build a character. This is a fake guide that does not show anybody how to do a lick of it. If wanting to simply plan a character. Good thing there's actual real guides that explain the process. Not just saying to play whatever and see if it is any good. Which devoids the entire point of - guide..As you do not need a guide to try to figure out how to do it on your own.
Oh will you look at that. I found an actual "real" guide. Some of the info is no good. But most of it is quite good. And valid even more than many fold past 8 weeks. Because it's an actual guide on how to build a character. The video above is BS. It is no way in hell a real guide. It's completely fake. It doesn't guide anything. Just says to look at some other user build. Not how to build yourself.
ua-cam.com/video/9i2o2wW7xbQ/v-deo.html
So the guide to making your own build starts with follow someone else's build.
I like your videos but your mic is like too close to your mouth or something.