Nicely done. Have to gripe a bit here (not against you, though). This entire affair has showcased the OSINT/SWL community at its worst. Every few weeks/months people would breathlessly report on this as if they had just discovered it, ignoring the dozens of reports prior to. Basically talking past each other and making it impossible to make any progress. How hard is it for some folks to do a simple search and see what's already been documented? Failing that, how hard would it be to exercise a bit of patience and observe it for at least a few weeks at a time? Since nobody else did it, apparently it's quite difficult. And since you did exactly that, putting time into finally answering questions many have had - much kudos. Hopefully this makes the rounds and the info is disseminated (and we don't have people even months from now reporting on this thing like it's some new phenomenon..)
ru sw community knows a lot more about this network and they don’t prefer to tell everyone this. they know about several more frequencies with CIS-12 from this network and also the reason for the sirens and music
Beautiful breakdown on what's happening here. My question is why would Russia set up a network like this just for the sake of a couple CIS-12 modems? Classic Russian practices of hoardering frequencies with a channel marker?
I see what you mean however i'm not convinced that is in the transmission feed itself, because if you look closer you see the interference is much wider on the waterfall then the signal itself, it crosses over into multiple signals and not only the ones you are compairing.
I zoomed out to show multiple frequencies with the glitch, they were the only ones, no other areas had shown this for several weeks during the event in Spring 2024.
HI GOOD video, I was wondering what or if your using a european sdr for this, I live on the east coast and don't get anything this strong. I enjoyed this.
How do you guys pick up these radio signals so well? I have radios and I listen a scroll the bands and never get anything this clear. What kind of antenna's or setup do you have?
Just looking at the pitch rise, it appears to be the rise of a square wave, very rich in harmonics in one side band. The one side band could be filtered by the receiver settings to show one sideband, as an AM signal, or it is a SSB broadcast. Not sure if the display is inverted in frequency to the local oscillator, but if not inverted, it is upper side band.
That is not so wideband to be considered as a pirate or a jamming. It looks more like a normal transmiter on LW band. If they want they coud drown whole band whit white noise or something worse. GPS is non operational in Baltics for two years now.
Nice! This is exactly what should've been done a longer time ago, and you did a great job putting things in their place. I wish more people see this video and get the explanation they needed. Take care!
10:50 There's some sort of data being transmitted in Morse (or more likely an encrypted Russian Military code derived from it) just below 7030kHz on the waterfall. You can hear it dit-dah'ing just below the alarm if you listen carefully. My read is that the music, alarm(s), clock signal, etc are being used to obfuscate this datastream from someone listening to the audible output, such as an enemy radio intercept operator, or - far more interestingly, and a fitting explanation for why this is relatively new behaviour on their part - an AI-driven decryption system brute-forcing the contents of every frequency it can hear. Assuming this IS some sort of encryption scheme, the Russians must have gear to de-obfuscate it at the other end based on known sample waveforms, or are also looking at their own waterfall and copying it manually. Either way, it's a pretty low-effort way to transmit sensitive info in the clear - it's effectively unbreakable unless you have the codebook. Maybe I'm completely out to lunch here, you tell me.
Don't you all find it funny how, apprently, soldiers in the trenches have cell phone service, Telegram is ubiquitous and yet these supposedly encrypted signals are used to communicate?
1) Don't need all these long samples of Russian/Soviet blaring to make your point. Or is that just video time stretching for the algorithms? Tack it on the end in that case would be my recommendation. 2) Ringway Manchester (You Tube) and others have been reporting on this sort of thing for years.
Great Video.
Thank you glad you could watch, been a while from hearing a comment from you!
@@SignalPhantomhaha, I was just a bit busy, I have gotten a tecsun pl330 by the way!
@@Antenna101 Sounds good hope you have some new fun with that too!
Awesome video. Love the longer-form explanatory content.
Nicely done. Have to gripe a bit here (not against you, though). This entire affair has showcased the OSINT/SWL community at its worst. Every few weeks/months people would breathlessly report on this as if they had just discovered it, ignoring the dozens of reports prior to. Basically talking past each other and making it impossible to make any progress. How hard is it for some folks to do a simple search and see what's already been documented? Failing that, how hard would it be to exercise a bit of patience and observe it for at least a few weeks at a time?
Since nobody else did it, apparently it's quite difficult. And since you did exactly that, putting time into finally answering questions many have had - much kudos. Hopefully this makes the rounds and the info is disseminated (and we don't have people even months from now reporting on this thing like it's some new phenomenon..)
ru sw community knows a lot more about this network and they don’t prefer to tell everyone this. they know about several more frequencies with CIS-12 from this network and also the reason for the sirens and music
Thanks, I am not hard to find to ask a question to, in email or comments, this stuff has been posted for a very long time with good descriptions...
What software do you use for your SDR?
sigdigger
I use and older version of Thetis with my Anan8000DLE, customized to what you see...
@@SignalPhantomnice
Beautiful breakdown on what's happening here. My question is why would Russia set up a network like this just for the sake of a couple CIS-12 modems? Classic Russian practices of hoardering frequencies with a channel marker?
Its Russian...🤔
@@SignalPhantom
In conclusion... Russia will be Russia lol
I also wondered about that stuttering CIS once but never thought much of it. Nice!
Thank you J!
I see what you mean however i'm not convinced that is in the transmission feed itself, because if you look closer you see the interference is much wider on the waterfall then the signal itself, it crosses over into multiple signals and not only the ones you are compairing.
I zoomed out to show multiple frequencies with the glitch, they were the only ones, no other areas had shown this for several weeks during the event in Spring 2024.
HI GOOD video, I was wondering what or if your using a european sdr for this, I live on the east coast and don't get anything this strong. I enjoyed this.
How do you guys pick up these radio signals so well? I have radios and I listen a scroll the bands and never get anything this clear. What kind of antenna's or setup do you have?
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Good stuff
What is the modulation on the sirens?
Just looking at the pitch rise, it appears to be the rise of a square wave, very rich in harmonics in one side band. The one side band could be filtered by the receiver settings to show one sideband, as an AM signal, or it is a SSB broadcast. Not sure if the display is inverted in frequency to the local oscillator, but if not inverted, it is upper side band.
@isettech I see, I interpreted each one of the peeks as some sort of carrier.
@@isettech *(USB) ... ALL RUSKI "TALK /SIGNALS" ...*
This music is banging. Even the one that sounds like a national anthem.
You can see all the music loops posted on my Channel in high quality, the graphic has their frequencies, but search 'Russian Loop' or by frequency!
Not just like - it is!
Are these broadcasts at a regular time, or just appear randomly?
I put some in the Description.
That is not so wideband to be considered as a pirate or a jamming.
It looks more like a normal transmiter on LW band.
If they want they coud drown whole band whit white noise or something worse.
GPS is non operational in Baltics for two years now.
Some Russian with a mega station somewhere is laughing his ass off.
Sometimes the signals are strange
Nice! This is exactly what should've been done a longer time ago, and you did a great job putting things in their place. I wish more people see this video and get the explanation they needed. Take care!
10:50 There's some sort of data being transmitted in Morse (or more likely an encrypted Russian Military code derived from it) just below 7030kHz on the waterfall. You can hear it dit-dah'ing just below the alarm if you listen carefully.
My read is that the music, alarm(s), clock signal, etc are being used to obfuscate this datastream from someone listening to the audible output, such as an enemy radio intercept operator, or - far more interestingly, and a fitting explanation for why this is relatively new behaviour on their part - an AI-driven decryption system brute-forcing the contents of every frequency it can hear. Assuming this IS some sort of encryption scheme, the Russians must have gear to de-obfuscate it at the other end based on known sample waveforms, or are also looking at their own waterfall and copying it manually. Either way, it's a pretty low-effort way to transmit sensitive info in the clear - it's effectively unbreakable unless you have the codebook.
Maybe I'm completely out to lunch here, you tell me.
That is the 40m Amateur Radio CW section of the band....
Don't you all find it funny how, apprently, soldiers in the trenches have cell phone service, Telegram is ubiquitous and yet these supposedly encrypted signals are used to communicate?
@@galileo_rs CW гораздо надежнее, а сотовая связь работает в пределах базовой станции, убрал базовую станцию, или подменил, и всё накрылось
@@antonsorokin3881 I don't speak Russian
40 meter radio jamming thats about it 😅
Nah... there aint no "pirates" on ether anymore ...
there ukraine and russian stations some licended some not.but loads of propaganda.. they are almost 24/7 there...
Some of this songs are pretty good. The russian anthem remix is terrrific.
You can see them all separate on my channel from Oct 2022 onward... search for Russian Loops and it will pull most up... or frequency in kHz
tornado siren
1) Don't need all these long samples of Russian/Soviet blaring to make your point. Or is that just video time stretching for the algorithms? Tack it on the end in that case would be my recommendation.
2) Ringway Manchester (You Tube) and others have been reporting on this sort of thing for years.
I started in Oct 2022, they are all posted, remember most have never heard or seen this sorry if you did not like it.