This Trunk Battery SAVED My Tesla!

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  • @BenSullinsOfficial
    @BenSullinsOfficial  3 роки тому +77

    FYI the "self-charging" bit included some TV Magic ;)

    • @TesLatino
      @TesLatino 3 роки тому +11

      Ha! Please expand on that. I didn't think it was possible but it did look like you drove away while plugged in. Wizardry.

    • @ronbyrd1434
      @ronbyrd1434 3 роки тому +2

      Yes. Please explain your TV Magic!

    • @electrifiedmotors
      @electrifiedmotors 3 роки тому

      Yeah that totally like blew my mind! LOL Did you really drive while the car was charging? Pretty cool device tho.

    • @jtcressy1
      @jtcressy1 3 роки тому +5

      hah i saw the charge port was dark as you drove away. ain't foolin me lmao.

    • @Trevor_H
      @Trevor_H 2 роки тому

      Would you say your buddy "Drives Like Jehu"? (San Diego band)

  • @Milanesa2010
    @Milanesa2010 3 роки тому +446

    The analogy with a gas can was perfect. Other than the $3600 price difference. I know, I know; you gotta do what you gotta do for sponsors. But for $3600 a tow company will send a truck and a limo to pick me up.

    • @BenSullinsOfficial
      @BenSullinsOfficial  3 роки тому +66

      Right, it's more comparable to a generator price

    • @Milanesa2010
      @Milanesa2010 3 роки тому +55

      Ben, a 7KW generator (gas/propane) is about $700 at Costco. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the video and the way it charged the car blew me away.
      Now; there is a $6K and 70 miles difference between the Model 3 standard and long range. how many miles would the ECOFLOW give you if you give it an hour to charge?

    • @RobertGoley
      @RobertGoley 3 роки тому +10

      @@Milanesa2010 A more fair comparison would be inverter generators and a 7kw inverter generator is roughly the price of this "gas can".

    • @jdlutz1965
      @jdlutz1965 3 роки тому +10

      @@Milanesa2010 as the Ecoflow battery has 3.6 kwh capacity, it'd give about 10-15 miles range, hopefully enough distance to get you to a charger.

    • @ApteraEV2024
      @ApteraEV2024 3 роки тому +2

      @David Lutz but, in an hour , im thinking maybe 5 miles..still emergency use)))

  • @benmorrison8533
    @benmorrison8533 3 роки тому +129

    Without the weight of the extra battery, you would have made it 😀

  • @taiwoo.9993
    @taiwoo.9993 2 роки тому +2

    If you are going to go through all this just to charge it. Just buy a 2022 Prius Prime. The hatchback of the Prius saves the most gas, still has tons of room, and you gain on mpg’s.

    • @taiwoo.9993
      @taiwoo.9993 2 роки тому

      The batteries I would keep in my home.
      My set up would be: Have two or more batteries. Buy a Tesla model y or x, or buy the newest Prius prime hatchback, have one of the batteries in my car and use it to charge whenever I’m low on energy. The two extra batteries I would keep in my home and use to power my house.

  • @Kenlwallace
    @Kenlwallace 2 роки тому +19

    For $500 you can get a compact 3,500w gas generator that gives more kw/hrs with option to add more gas.

  • @ianburton5624
    @ianburton5624 3 роки тому +19

    Great video. Jehu has a great channel as well and I love it when you guys collaborate. I like Jehu's suggestion that all houses should have a transfer switch installed.

  • @SafetyBriefer
    @SafetyBriefer 3 роки тому +168

    I'd like to see the math on how much range a Tesla loses while hauling around the eco flow batteries.

    • @Josh.20001
      @Josh.20001 3 роки тому +25

      I would imagine they can’t weigh more then 100-150 pounds, so only like driving with a passenger. From my experience there isn’t really a difference in range when I have one other passenger.

    • @markmelton697
      @markmelton697 3 роки тому +16

      It’s listed as 99lbs.

    • @icosthop9998
      @icosthop9998 2 роки тому +3

      A very good thought and thank you , Richard Fox 👍
      I don't carry a gas can , but when I do get my Toyota Tacoma EV, I will have one of those on me at all times. 🧐

    • @anthonyartioli-looyenga8431
      @anthonyartioli-looyenga8431 2 роки тому +1

      Yes very handy if stuck remote areas,,in Bush,
      Very expensive battery thou food for powerstation running off grid houses n camping etc also,
      Would be wet interesting see how much battery NRG you lose towing your caravans etc n if the battery you showing is useful to have recharging an how often recharging electric vehicles towing caravans trailers etc very handy thou as mentioned above especially in remote areas,, price is heavy on Pocket but a eye opener for possible scaling down prices searching for cheaper same quality battery performance etc,, having a power station on board is required these days important,so this is good idea being the first to show everyone,now all can find cheaper options now public been shown how to have back up power when Empty,
      Great video, openings options to making it affordable is next vids I predicting,maybe you can make another showing all public cheaper options that work same n how much NRG lost when towing caravans etc must be certain levels weights that's will drain n drain battery less ,,
      Keep up your good work mate 😀🙏😇,

    • @moremileyplease4387
      @moremileyplease4387 2 роки тому +3

      You can keep it for home use except for (camping) trips. The light weight solar panels will end the issue when in sunny climbs. This will work great when I retire.

  • @G.K.Walker
    @G.K.Walker 3 роки тому +34

    The charging while driving is cool. I know the Tesla engineers are somewhere having a conniption fit over seeing you rolling through the streets with the trunk up and cord hanging out which is hilarious.

    • @BenSullinsOfficial
      @BenSullinsOfficial  3 роки тому +16

      haha, yeah that was some TV magic, it's not possible (yet) ;)

    • @G.K.Walker
      @G.K.Walker 3 роки тому +2

      @@BenSullinsOfficial Lol. Soon.

    • @D0li0
      @D0li0 3 роки тому +4

      @@BenSullinsOfficial wait, what? In another reply here under this video someone said you could press the charge door button?
      Is that not the case? Because I absolutely want to tow a trailer that has its own custom battery and inverter and play with range extending on my CyberTruck...
      Without having to directly tap the trucks HV lines, which I've done in a Prius PHEV conversion over a decade ago.

    •  3 роки тому +1

      @@D0li0 afaik no car allows charging while driving....

    • @D0li0
      @D0li0 3 роки тому

      @ That is simply a safety interlock software issue. Thanks for the observation all the same.
      If a trailer with batteries were more common, I have friends who have built such a thing, then OEMs may offer such a feature.
      Baring that, one might need to tap directly into the battery HV contacts, which is how those friends I've mentioned did it.

  • @jamesalias595
    @jamesalias595 2 роки тому +2

    I am 60 years old and I have never needed a gas can to fuel up my vehicles, I don't suffer from range anxiety. Also a gas can if way cheaper than a backup battery that you need to carry around in the trunk of your Tesla. An Ecoflow is way more expensive than buying a gas powered generator to backup your home. This video only shows me why I shouldn't buy a Tesla or any other full battery vehicle.

    • @epi2045
      @epi2045 2 роки тому

      I’m still planning on buying an EV someday but you’re correct. A bit absurd toting around the Ecoflow using up valuable space especially on a road trip. Lugging around that extra weight, while minor, does cost some range too. Lastly, if this gets used 1-2X a year because someone ran out of power on the road, maybe they shouldn’t buy an EV.

  • @asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068
    @asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068 3 роки тому +26

    This is cool, but as far as a backup charger for emergencies goes I'm not too sold on it ever being that useful, especially at the current price point. However I can still see it being useful as a travel buddy for camping etc. The only real world scenario I can think of where you could run out of power would be if you got stuck in heavy unexpected traffic. Especially in my country where we have a ton of v2 chargers on every gass station etc. it's almost impossible to ever run out of juice outside of traffic.

  • @bayliner4387
    @bayliner4387 3 роки тому +95

    What was the range you could have received out of the external battery if it were full and your Car was 0?
    That would be useful information.

    • @mattydomingo
      @mattydomingo 3 роки тому +20

      i believe if the S sucked every ounce of juice from that portable it would have 10-15 miles of range, not sure how long that would take (Delta Pro is 3.6kWh)

    • @richhagenchicago
      @richhagenchicago 3 роки тому +12

      @@mattydomingo I agree, a 3.6 KWH inverter, charging at full blast was adding 10 Miles per hour range according to his car, and with a 3.6KWH battery, it would therefore add around 10 miles. Probably a little bit less as the 3.6KWH rating of the battery is likely not a C1 rate, and there would be some inefficiencies in the inverting as well.

    • @Trillville43
      @Trillville43 3 роки тому +1

      @@fatboy19831 it's been tested it's 91% efficient while some have gotten a bit higher.

    • @RandyTWester
      @RandyTWester 3 роки тому +5

      It would add slightly more range than the extra weight of the battery pack will reduce the range by.

    • @matthewjohnson7350
      @matthewjohnson7350 3 роки тому

      How much does this Ecobee battery weigh?

  • @charliefountain1
    @charliefountain1 3 роки тому +33

    Wouldn’t the weight of the packs cancel the benefit of carrying them in the first place?

    • @rudranewaz6664
      @rudranewaz6664 3 роки тому +4

      yup..

    • @modernkennnern
      @modernkennnern 3 роки тому +3

      That's what I was thinking too.
      It's only useful in *extremely* niche scenarios, in which case you'd still be better of just throwing it out the window before starting the trip.

    • @TechMultiview100
      @TechMultiview100 3 роки тому +12

      no because the weight of the pack is not enough to impact the range enough. It would have a slight impact but nothing big at all, maybe 1% efficiency. electric vehicle weight effects range but when you are talking about a vehicle that is already 4k pounds and over adding this in doesn't impact it. Having different non aero wheels would actually impact the range more.

    • @andyd5492
      @andyd5492 3 роки тому +4

      Check out how much one of those units costs, too.

    • @JohnSmith-gz5pm
      @JohnSmith-gz5pm 3 роки тому +1

      It has wheels and a retractable handle bar for a reason!

  • @snuggles03
    @snuggles03 3 роки тому +70

    I believe it’s a lot easier to plan your trip so that you don’t run out of electricity rather than carrying around those big batteries in your car which of course take up space.

    • @xXYourShadowDaniXx
      @xXYourShadowDaniXx 3 роки тому +8

      Currently for US as long as your car has around 250-300 miles range, dc fast charge, and the chargers you go to aren't broke, you won't need these for most trips.

    • @snuggles03
      @snuggles03 3 роки тому +5

      @@xXYourShadowDaniXx I’m in Australia and our EV infrastructure is still very small but growing

    • @CharlesGregory
      @CharlesGregory 3 роки тому +3

      @@snuggles03 I'm in Australia and you're right, for some specific remote routes the infrastructure is not there yet, and this would be a very handy thing to take with you (assuming they made it available in other countries with localised socket types, etc). But most of the high traffic urban and regional routes are covered with DC fast chargers.

    • @blanknam3d
      @blanknam3d 2 роки тому +7

      You'd think that, but: Murphy's law. Anything that can go wrong *will* go wrong.
      You might plan your trip to not need a backup solution, but it's possible for that trip plan to fail, and trip plan B to also fail, as well as trip plan C.

    • @jeff1806
      @jeff1806 2 роки тому +2

      There is a video showing a couple of guys towing identical 10,000 lb trailers. One towed with a Ford Lighting EV the other a GMC gas truck. The on board computer of the Ford said he could go 160 miles. He only got 86 miles, because of a 7 mph headwind. He had to turn around and return to a charging station 5 miles back. It took him 40 mins for a 75% charge. Both returned to the starting point where the gas truck still showed 1/4 of a tank and it took only 7 mins to fill up.

  • @richhagenchicago
    @richhagenchicago 3 роки тому +4

    I do the same thing with double pull double throw relays in a metal case. It switches the circuits from the grid to my inverter when there is AC output from the inverter. It switches fast enough such that my computers do not lock up. I had planned to put additional capacitance across the 12V and 5V outputs of the computers power supply, but it was not even necessary. The inverter automatically turns on when the voltage in the capacitor bank it is attached to rises above a certain point and automatically switches off when it falls below. The circuits connected through the relay switch back and forth automatically. I switch some computers that mine cryptocurrencies and provide some heating from the waste heat that they generate here in the cold north as well as some lighting circuits.

  • @koeniglicher
    @koeniglicher 3 роки тому +22

    The real fun actually starts as soon as the 12V battery is flat as well, the hood is closed, the electric hood lock engaged and the electric parking brake is engaged as well. James May made this experience with his Model S. There, the whole story starts with getting access to the 12V battery, charging it, and only after that, charging the traction battery. Ben was clever enough to avoid this in his experiment. :-)

    • @TechMultiview100
      @TechMultiview100 3 роки тому +5

      what are you saying lol. The 12V battery does not die when the car battery dies. The 12V battery is charged constantly to 100% by the main battery and when you drive the car to 0% the 12V does not get used. This is a safety feature, everything like doors, locks, changing gears, and yes the trunk is run off the 12v and so the only reason the 12v would die is if it was faulty , but tesla already prepared for this predicament and anytime the 12v is not in good health the car will not even let you drive it in most cases so you can get it changed. Also most gas cars use a 12V for everything now and a 12V in a gas car is much more likely to die. Same scenario with cars that have an electronic gas cap and electronic trunk, they would not even be able to fill up. At least the tesla has a manual door release and manual charge port release (no power required). James made this scenario exactly how it would play out, you are driving and your main battery dies, 12v can last weeks without being charged because it powers low power items and so he goes to charge the main battery. Completely real scenario of which yours was not real and highly highly unlikely as the driver would have had to ignore the 12V service message the car would have thrown prior to even putting the car into drive.

    • @koeniglicher
      @koeniglicher 3 роки тому +2

      @@TechMultiview100 When you drive the car until it stops, with the traction battery flat and about 400 Wh in the 12V battery remaining (remember: only 33-35 Ah max in Model S 12V AGM battery) and then keep the large display, audio, navigation and ventilation on (assume 1000 Watts total), then it will not take long (assume 20 min max) until the 12V battery dies as well, as it cannot be charged back from the traction battery. Ben intentionally kept ignoring the warnings on the traction battery running low, so ignoring service messages on the 12V may completely be possible as well if he wanted to run both batteries down to nothing. Is it hard to spend 20 min in a stranded car and not concentrating on car messages? No, just do one or two phone calls with service staff, spending time in waiting phone queues while siting inside with the systems on.

    • @TechMultiview100
      @TechMultiview100 3 роки тому +1

      @@koeniglicher again you are very wrong here. The car limits power to all external devices as well as uses less power and only keeps essential functions on so that the 12v can last as long as possible. The warning messages he had on his car were not for the 12v they were for the main battery and those can be ignored, but if the 12v is low and it throws a warning message it will prevent you from driving. I know many model 3 owners who were not even able to leave there driveway until the 12v was replaced.

    • @koeniglicher
      @koeniglicher 3 роки тому

      @@TechMultiview100 You do not need to drive the car to run a 12V battery to zero quickly. All you need is keep the car on, when the main battery is already depleted. The energy management system can shut off whatever consumers it may find appropriate (AC, heating, ventilation, outside and interior lights, audio, navigation), but due to the consumption of the remaining ECUs it will quickly reach a point where the 12V battery is essentially dead as well, if the car is on and a door is open. Then: no access to the hood (where the 12V battery resides) due to the electric lock, no access to the rear liftgate (due to the electric lock), so: no access (or difficult access via the 2nd row seats) to the Delta Pro modules stored in the trunk.
      It was absolutey essential, that after Ben stopped, he did not wait too long to get the tailgate open, the charge lid open, the charge process started, the contactors for AC charging employed, and his reserve battery in the trunk charging the car. The important part is: a dead 12V will not only prevent from driving, but also prevent from charging.

    • @TechMultiview100
      @TechMultiview100 3 роки тому +1

      @@koeniglicher fam you like just ignored what I said, the car lowers the energy needs when the 12v is the only thing on and even if the door is left open and all the infotainment is running it can last hours. Also When you drive the car to 0% there is a reserve left on the big battery capable of charging the 12v multiple times over before being completely dead. In most cases you won’t even get to this point because again the car won’t allow you to drive with a bad 12v but just in case you do the statements I just said explain how that’s a non issue regardless

  • @johncahill3644
    @johncahill3644 3 роки тому +15

    I just drove 1700 miles through rural America, never once having any problem finding a supercharger (and of course the Tesla Navigator simply did all this for me). Why are we pretending this is an issue?

    • @rally411tv
      @rally411tv 3 роки тому +1

      I don’t have the long range Tesla. This would be perfect for rural camping and trips. I can go from charger to charger but struggle between them out in the empty western us.

    • @Markcain268
      @Markcain268 3 роки тому

      It will be an issue when half the population are driving used EVs with the original battery, the ten year old Renault Zoe I test drove had a range of about 70 miles!

    • @sophitia_lynn
      @sophitia_lynn 2 роки тому

      It is an issue for us Alaskan Tesla owners. There is one supercharger. It’s in Soldotna, AK which is 140 miles outside of our main city and 188 miles away from my home.

    • @lashlarue59
      @lashlarue59 2 роки тому +1

      @@sophitia_lynn I don't mean to sound like an asshole but If the closest supercharger is almost 200 miles from your house why would you ever buy a Tesla in first place? That's like your entire charge just to get back home from the charger.

    • @6421rich
      @6421rich 2 роки тому

      There are over 1 million gas station in America and it takes less than 5 min to fill a tank, imagine if it took 1 hour to fill how many more stations we would need

  • @shaand3371
    @shaand3371 3 роки тому +3

    I just ordered one. Let’s see. Thanks for the review.

  • @benh5774
    @benh5774 3 роки тому +15

    Would have been useful to see a complete charge from the external battery to see how much it translate to in the Tesla

    • @sooner1125
      @sooner1125 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah how many miles can 1 of those batteries add?

    • @joshjosh575
      @joshjosh575 Рік тому +3

      It’s a marketing scam. That why he doesn’t show you.

  • @markleyg
    @markleyg 3 роки тому +11

    $7,000 in back up batteries? I'll pass.

    • @mukiex4413
      @mukiex4413 3 роки тому +2

      What sucks is that, with all discussion about how “close” to “$100 per KWh” Tesla is, consumer li-ion batteries are still in the “$1,000” per kilowatt hour range. Even if you assume they’re paying twice as much as Tesla at the cell level, that’s still either 80% margins or casting some real doubt on how cheap those batteries are actually getting.

    • @markleyg
      @markleyg 3 роки тому +1

      @@mukiex4413 Totally agree.

  • @drew5939
    @drew5939 3 роки тому +29

    Being able to charge it at a charging station is a game changer. What is the max charge rate?

    • @koeniglicher
      @koeniglicher 3 роки тому +4

      Ecoflow names 3400 Watts or 3.4 kW max when charging from EV charging stations.

  • @ernestbethel2035
    @ernestbethel2035 3 роки тому +33

    Those EcoFlow batteries look perfect for a Motor Coach that is boondocking. Get a series of them going and they can supplement the so much. Especially with the solar panel set up.

  • @ttfrhoncho6716
    @ttfrhoncho6716 2 роки тому

    lol, your video on "has my solar system paid for itself" was used to convince my S/O to get our system. Since then, I've built an offgrid She-shed with a mini-split, a Ryobi, solar powered Tool shed, am building a trunk battery, and mobile Ryobi power source from Jehu's batteries and modules, and we bought a Mach-E, and are 35,000th or so on the lightning list as the eventual system battery. LOL, and we have a concept 2 in the garage. Great minds...

  • @papameticulous
    @papameticulous 2 роки тому +1

    What I get from videos like this is that a buyer will be investing in generating their own electricity. It's yours to do whatever you want.

  • @lawrences4153
    @lawrences4153 3 роки тому +5

    Wow, what a coincidence, forgot to charge the car but didn’t forget to pack the ecoflow battery banks 🤣🤣🤣. I love UA-cam

  • @niceboy60
    @niceboy60 2 роки тому +4

    The $3600 gas can 😲🤷🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @gwarlow
    @gwarlow 3 роки тому +11

    I guess this is great for Tesla owners who are unable to get to a supercharger… the same drivers who previously were unable to find a gas station.

  • @danmitchell1143
    @danmitchell1143 3 роки тому

    Great video. Just ordered my Ecoflow Delta Pro and is suppose to arrive tomorrow. Bought is as a backup power station but certainly great to know I can charge my MY in case I ever needed it.

  • @ne1cup
    @ne1cup 2 роки тому +15

    after you charged from your emergency gas can how far did your Tesla go ?

  • @theafraser2261
    @theafraser2261 2 роки тому +1

    I will be living at a dorm in a city that does not have any charging stations - so I desperately need to find a portable charging station to charge my car. I sincerely appreciate your research and thus recommendations!

  • @FFGuy-eu7hr
    @FFGuy-eu7hr Рік тому

    I've seen smaller versions of the batteries like that which are smaller but could still give you a couple of miles of range in an emergency. Some of which can also serve as buffers for solar charging.

  • @robloxprincess8218
    @robloxprincess8218 3 роки тому

    This video is something else. Thanks for sharing. I really don't know of any other power station that can do the same thing.

  • @jmaxmin
    @jmaxmin 2 роки тому

    What is that small “ground” plug? I had a problem with red charging cable on some places. I tought it was ground problem

  • @Krazilok
    @Krazilok 3 роки тому +4

    I sat here thinking about all the good uses that this battery could be good for, and then I remembered that I pre-ordered the F150 Lightning for majority of those reasons. Vehicle to grid is the future, I think this business model will have a short life once more vehicles can be used as power generators.

    • @BenSullinsOfficial
      @BenSullinsOfficial  3 роки тому

      disagree but valid point that the home charging will be a game changer for future EVs

    • @pctransactions
      @pctransactions 2 роки тому

      Plan on an early death for you $15k car battery by discharging/recharging to Power Grid.

  • @SunriseLAW
    @SunriseLAW 3 роки тому

    The American mass-market will go with the CATL swap-off system. Check out the NIO with Tesla-like specs at 2/3 the price. It can be plugged in or swapped for a charged unit at a station in 5 minutes .. That way the battery can be upgraded / replaced without involving the whole car.

  • @noahabsalom1186
    @noahabsalom1186 3 роки тому

    Where can I get the ground plug that you plugged into the battery

  • @jimwangus
    @jimwangus 2 роки тому

    Where I can get the small plug that bypass the "ground"?

  • @luismunoz6085
    @luismunoz6085 2 роки тому +1

    It sounds good and all but y'all didn't say how long you could run that building or how many times you could charge your car with it your super duper Battery pack.I think it's very important to know that .

  • @johnfacemireii7652
    @johnfacemireii7652 3 роки тому

    Where can you find the special plug that you put in and trick it for being ground

  • @HeyitsmeSarah
    @HeyitsmeSarah 3 роки тому

    Pretty happy I was able to get it thru the Kickstarter program. Can't wait to get my hands on it.

  • @benjiebarker
    @benjiebarker Рік тому

    Is the ecoflow smart home panel like a transfer panel with 10 circuit breakers that will automatically start the ecoflow delta pros to provide power when grid power goes down?

  • @KuryakinIllya
    @KuryakinIllya 2 роки тому

    Wow, you're friends with Jehu Garcia! I love both of you fellas!

  • @jackylsmith8138
    @jackylsmith8138 3 роки тому +8

    Just put in your front row hook, call up a friend and have him tow you around the parking lot for 5 minutes the Tesla will regen brake the whole time an start to charge the battery. Much quicker than that slow battery charge.

    • @BenSullinsOfficial
      @BenSullinsOfficial  3 роки тому +2

      I'd love to see this

    • @aussie2uGA
      @aussie2uGA 3 роки тому +1

      @@BenSullinsOfficial watch the UA-cam channel “warped perception”. He tows the Model S to recharge it. It worked very well.

  • @JasAce5
    @JasAce5 3 роки тому

    I'd like to point out something that I have not seen in the video nor in the comments. There are a lot of hotels in america that do not have charging stations at the hotel. Simply charge from the battery when you arrive, then take the battery into the hotel room and recharge it overnight. I imagine you wouldn't get a full charge in one night, but when you stop to charge the car, simply charge the battery as well.

  • @truesimplicity
    @truesimplicity 2 роки тому

    Can two eco float be used for a whole house transfer switch 240v with a standard L14-30

  • @daweihong
    @daweihong 2 роки тому

    Do you have a link to the component that allows the charger to detect a ground? Thanks,

  • @artemmm2
    @artemmm2 2 роки тому

    It's 4,5% of car battery capacity only, so better be more attentive with main battery status. After 20% look for charger around)
    Good experiment!!!

  • @CaseyBurnsInvesting
    @CaseyBurnsInvesting 3 роки тому +13

    This is awesome. This business will go far.

    • @koeniglicher
      @koeniglicher 3 роки тому

      Looking at the bill of material of the unit (3.6 kWh LiFePO4 cells, inverter/rectifier, some plugs, some switches, fuses, logic, displays, the nice plastic case with handles and casters), this product seems way overpriced (USD 3,599) from my point of view. So, it will not take long until competitors come up with similar products at a way lower price. Ben keeps telling us the price for LiFePO4 cells is way below 100 USD/kWh. This means below 360 USD max for the cells. All the rest (worth 3,200 USD??) is essentially some cheap electrical standard components and a Raspberry Pi controlling it. So, the intended profit margin is huge, but it makes them vulnerable to competition from way cheaper suppliers to get most of the actual market volume. Right now, I consider this piece as an early adopter product.
      For the sake of comparison: for roughly the same price of $4000, SAIG-GM makes the Wuling Hongguang Mini EV in China, a small car with 10 kWh LiFePO4 battery. That is three times the capacity and a decent car around it.

    • @mpirron1
      @mpirron1 3 роки тому

      It's way overpriced, its robbery do a degree I'd call scamming. In this case its dumping money down a whole to do it with batteries at all. A 2500 watt, very quiet petrol inverter generator from Lowe's is lighter, smaller and 650 bucks. Its gonna be the right solution for this use case for a while or until there is an autonomous mobile charging platform.

  • @timb9189
    @timb9189 2 роки тому

    Where do you get the device that creates the ground to fool the Tesla charger?

  • @chrisdesio5905
    @chrisdesio5905 2 роки тому

    Can that be done with any electric car charge wile driving

  • @JoshuaMichail0
    @JoshuaMichail0 2 роки тому +4

    That is pretty neat. I like the idea of having a battery back-up, like a gas can for EVs. I was thinking if a typical gas can holds 3 to 5 gallons of gas and a pickup truck can get maybe 15 to 20 miles per gallon that's 45 to 100 miles of range. Let's assume the middle, say 3 gallons at 20 miles range, so 60 miles emergency range. A battery back-up system should hold enough charge for about 60 miles of range. In the case of the F150 Lightning that should theoretically be about 26 kWh. It may be some time before we can see a portable battery back-up system like the one in this video which can give 26 kWh. At 3.6 kWh x 2.3 miles/kWh (F150 EPA estimate) that's 7 (6 if we round down for energy loss that naturally happens in energy transfer during charging) miles in the battery back-up currently. But, at least 6 to 10 miles should be enough to get anyone to the nearest charging station in the city, less luck in more rural areas though. All in all, the "gas can for EVs" is a worthwhile business venture these days.

    • @lashlarue59
      @lashlarue59 2 роки тому

      Worthwhile at almost $5000 each?

  • @mdarks4117
    @mdarks4117 2 роки тому

    I’ve been looking around for emergency chargers for my arriving Tesla. What’s the weight of that unit? & is it worth carrying around?

  • @johnfacemireii7652
    @johnfacemireii7652 3 роки тому

    Where can I get the special ground plug please help

  • @TheRTM
    @TheRTM 2 роки тому

    I’m confused??..The last part of the video when you did the “self charging thing” with the battery in the trunk, where you charging the car from the battery while driving?…Or where you charging the portable battery while driving? Or were you powering the car from the portable battery (by passing the internal Tesla battery?..could you (or someone) please clarify?
    Thanks

  • @cheeseswears
    @cheeseswears 2 роки тому

    If you leave one of thes charging your car while solar panels charge the battery, would it work?

  • @SilverBullet93GT
    @SilverBullet93GT 2 роки тому +1

    personally, i am planning to maybe install a 60L tank in my trunk and a mini pump, this way i can stop and refuel when i run out of gas

  • @benjaminherrmann7671
    @benjaminherrmann7671 3 роки тому

    What was solar panel you were using I your driveway? 400w portible panel is awesome

  • @everlightgreen
    @everlightgreen 2 роки тому

    Great experiment, always fun to learn about new technology, thanks! Isn't it TeSla not TeZla?? Never heard someone say "Nikola TeZla"😉

  • @deesh6378
    @deesh6378 3 роки тому +1

    Over here you can call a tow company to bring out a van with a charging station built-in, basically the same concept but a much larger capacity, which is free if you're a member for it (abt 10 bucks a month). People who aren't members can become members on the spot to still get it for free or only pay $50 to get their car charged. So why would I buy a $3600 battery pack?

  • @jamejuky
    @jamejuky Рік тому

    What is the small black adaptor to trick the Tesla about grounded ? Can you provide the link to buy it? Thank you.

  • @scubatrucker6806
    @scubatrucker6806 3 роки тому

    I enjoy watching both of your channels.👍👍

  • @vernongomes
    @vernongomes 3 роки тому +1

    I just started watching this video! But, I may need to try this out.
    I still love my 2014 i3 to death, and I've had a few close calls with range, with the cold weather as of late. I don't really love any of the current models enough to justify paying $40-50k for a new EV (Model 3 isn't a hatch, Polestar 2 isn't efficient, Ioniq/EV6,Mach-E have too much markup). This could come in handy for a couple of close calls I had.

  • @maramé.r
    @maramé.r Рік тому

    Similar to having a can of fuel in a combustion car. The preferred option though is to charge the Tesla before it runs out much as you’d visit the gas station before you ran out of gas. The weight of carrying spare batteries is going to reduce range and not really a long term option

  • @matthewjohnson7350
    @matthewjohnson7350 3 роки тому +1

    How much range did it put back on your Tesla in the "15 or 20 minutes" you charged it from the battery?

    • @GabrielSBarbaraS
      @GabrielSBarbaraS 3 роки тому

      This device has 3.6 Kilowatt storage for about $3500 price tag and tesla gets about 4 miles per kilo watt. Not answering your question directly, but this device seems to give a range of about 14 miles.

  • @td389
    @td389 3 роки тому

    Where can I get the plug to trick the simulated ground?

  • @Ninety9924
    @Ninety9924 2 роки тому +2

    The DELTA pro is very heavy. If carried in the car, wouldn't that reduce the range of the car to some degrees?

  • @tomtommining5470
    @tomtommining5470 2 роки тому

    Hi! Thank you for the great video. I don't see a link for the dummy ground plug. Would you mind posting that one as well please? Thank you!

  • @ajjoshi
    @ajjoshi 3 роки тому

    Does the Tesla Destination charger actually charge it? Or does Tesla lock it so it's for Tesla only?

    • @gerhardk98
      @gerhardk98 3 роки тому

      You can charge any EV on a destination charger as long as you have the Tesla to J1772 adapter, so if the battery can be charged via a J1772 plug there is no reason to expect it not to charge at destination charger.

  • @brianredmond4919
    @brianredmond4919 3 роки тому

    Nice little Honda inverter suitcase generator looks like a better option. Smaller, far cheaper and more versatile.

  • @darkdragonentertainment8778
    @darkdragonentertainment8778 4 місяці тому

    Can you please put the link for the little ground plug so that our chargers can read green

  • @jamesyao9199
    @jamesyao9199 2 роки тому

    Where i can buy this little grounded plug?

  • @CyrusPenrod
    @CyrusPenrod 3 роки тому +2

    Ok I didn't think charging while driving was possible. Does it actually let you charge or was that just a fun way to end the video. If you can charge while driving can you drive at like freeway speeds? What error messages is it showing?

    • @wwecallofduty123
      @wwecallofduty123 3 роки тому +1

      You cant charge while driving the car will not let you.

    • @BenSullinsOfficial
      @BenSullinsOfficial  3 роки тому

      That was some TV magic :) It's not possible but thought it would be a fun easter egg...

    • @CyrusPenrod
      @CyrusPenrod 3 роки тому

      Haha fun.

  • @williamdeniston5291
    @williamdeniston5291 2 роки тому

    What and where can I get that ground plug you used on the EcoFlow to make it think it is grounded?

  • @1905934
    @1905934 3 роки тому

    8:08 what is that piece.. where do you get this?

    • @niceride
      @niceride 2 роки тому

      Looks to be a neutral-ground bonding plug, common knowledge from Recreational Vehicle culture.

  • @czierwo
    @czierwo 2 роки тому

    Looks like a some additional equipmen towing trucks would need to carry. If EV dies rather closely to the destination. Gotta get it loaded up if not close enough tho.

  • @killjoydod4937
    @killjoydod4937 2 роки тому

    Haaa!! I knew this would come along eventually! just like those packs you can buy for your phone to extend battery life!!!

  • @MrExo_3D
    @MrExo_3D 3 роки тому

    Can you put this into neutral to push it? is tow mode same as neutral?

  • @larryhenry1440
    @larryhenry1440 3 роки тому

    Where can you buy them can you send me information about it forms

  • @normanrechtman3885
    @normanrechtman3885 2 роки тому

    What is the link for the grounding adapter?

  • @MrPensiveThinker
    @MrPensiveThinker 3 роки тому +22

    I’m subbed to your channel and I enjoy your content.
    I know this was sponsored but it sucks that you failed to mention the possible range you could get with the device which seemed a bit misleading to your viewers. From the Tesla screen it seemed like (in a perfect world without energy loss during transfer) you’d get 10 miles.

    • @TesLatino
      @TesLatino 3 роки тому +1

      I think that based on the total capacity (I think he said it had 3.6 kW h total capacity), if say you can get 3-4 miles per kW h you can do the estimated math easy. It will never be an exact number though since the way you drive and the car's efficiency matter.

    • @MrPensiveThinker
      @MrPensiveThinker 3 роки тому +4

      @@TesLatino that sounds about right. I just wish this info was readily available to the viewers because it seems somewhat misleading as this is represented as a conventional gas can equivalent while its milage doesn’t even come close. Just doesn’t seem very honest/ethical to me is all.

    • @chrisshin238
      @chrisshin238 3 роки тому +2

      Forgive me to say that they’re suckers!

    •  3 роки тому

      These would always be "emergency" miles so slow speed, does that change things? How low can the Tesla's go re: consumption?

  • @robertheinkel6225
    @robertheinkel6225 3 роки тому

    What does the tow mode actually do?

  • @robertboyd4656
    @robertboyd4656 2 роки тому

    Turn the main breaker off at the main panel then plug power source into either dryer plug or electric stove box it will power the full panel but still low on amps but either you get 30 amp to one side of Parnell or 40 amps 20 amps to each side of panel in a power failure :)

  • @mashfirst
    @mashfirst Рік тому

    have you actually test the recharging at a commercial charger

  • @BogDrakonov
    @BogDrakonov 2 роки тому

    What's the tiny grounding piece you used to make the charger work? Do you have a link to that?

    • @manfreds.6505
      @manfreds.6505 2 роки тому

      That's exactly what I would be interested in. Is that also required for the European version? Is there also a corresponding plug for this? Many thanks already!

  • @gianlucabaldo-lce306
    @gianlucabaldo-lce306 2 роки тому

    Dear Ben, compliments! I'm going to buy the Ecoflow Delta Pro here in Italy for the same reason. What I need to find is the Surge Guard Generator Neutral-Ground Bonding Plug with a European plug-in (like Shuko). Hope to find it.

  • @BecauseTesla
    @BecauseTesla 3 роки тому +13

    These batteries would be great for companies like AAA and other tow / roadside hazzard assistance groups to help out stranded EV owners.

    • @koeniglicher
      @koeniglicher 3 роки тому +1

      Takes too long. If AAA is called for help, they must be able to act way quicker than that. That is why they come with a tow truck: get the vehicle out of the place and to some appropriate place.

    • @Yelt3D
      @Yelt3D 3 роки тому +2

      @@koeniglicher last time I called AAA I waited two hours for a tow truck. This was in a major city. Not sure if timelines is their main concern.

    • @kdrapertrucker
      @kdrapertrucker 3 роки тому +2

      They would just buy F150 powerboost trucks and have 7.2 KW from factory.

    • @koeniglicher
      @koeniglicher 3 роки тому

      @@kdrapertrucker Still too slow charging with 7.2 kW or 9.6 kW for this use case, from my point of view.

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 3 роки тому

      @@koeniglicher well these batteries certainly aren’t exceeding that

  • @Brantastic07
    @Brantastic07 2 роки тому

    Is it possible to charge & drive at same time?

  • @rondouglas1542
    @rondouglas1542 2 роки тому

    The thing that would have been cool is can you strap down a solar panel and charge while you drive. On a tesla or a F150 lighting.... on the lighting strap your panels to the Bemanny top charge thee truck while you're driving. And this concept will be super awesome if you can do this on the Tesla Truck it simply will make any EV limitless in range..... lol submitted for your consideration. Love your show. When you do this we're going to laugh. Gas is over
    IJS.

  • @isaac198428
    @isaac198428 2 роки тому

    Running power tools like drills, blenders, dish washer, laundry washer/dryer, air conditioning etc use up lots of power. I’m curious how much work you can do or how long you can run your house with this battery. I’m guessing an hr or less but not a couple of days. For comparison, I’ve used battery operated leaf blowers and lawn mowers- they don’t last enough to make them sufficient for regular work. Maybe a very tiny strip of land but not actually working with them for hours on end. lol

  • @johndavis7112
    @johndavis7112 3 роки тому +2

    I have $1500 Generator that charges my car at 38 mph at 240V@ 40 amps on 2 gallons of propane ($6) Weighs 300 pounds with the 20 pound propane tank I can get about 68 miles on 2 gallons of propane in 2 hours
    DuroMax XP13000EH 10500W/13000W Electric Start Dual Fuel Generator New - FactoryPure

  • @cleedix
    @cleedix 3 роки тому

    That looks like a pretty cool product. Question though, at time 4:38 you say that you are following a tractor and then you show a scene of a car following a tractor. It looks like this was filmed in Salt Lake City, Utah (I grew up there and it sure looks like Mount Olympus in the background), then the following scenes look like Los Angeles. Just to be clear, the battery didn’t allow you to take a detour up to Salt Lake on your way up to Los Angeles, right? That would be a super impressive backup battery. :)

  • @angeladizon7939
    @angeladizon7939 2 роки тому

    Hi Ben, where can I get the ground plug? Please send me the link.

  • @worldwide_wes
    @worldwide_wes 3 роки тому +3

    My delta pro came with a dead pixel on the screen, and the quality of the port covers is garbage. Other than that it’s working good so far

  • @MrKazasoyze
    @MrKazasoyze Рік тому

    How many miles were added based on the charger? How long did it take to charge with the miles addded?

  • @dawggonevidz9140
    @dawggonevidz9140 2 роки тому

    TIL you can push a Tesla if you put it in Tow Mode. I have no idea when that will become useful for me to know but I'm sure the day will come.
    Also why doesn't that battery pack have an output for a earth wire with it's own earth wire included in the package? My generator does!

  • @dglennon20
    @dglennon20 3 роки тому

    How long will this run a food truck? I don't have food trucks, but when I go to them, their generators are loud and toxic. Could be a market need.

    • @BenSullinsOfficial
      @BenSullinsOfficial  3 роки тому

      Great application, depends how much energy they need but with a few of them combined it could easily run it all night

  • @PeaceChanel
    @PeaceChanel 2 роки тому +1

    Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste and Thank You for All that you are doing for World Peace.. 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ 🌷 ☮️ ❤️🕊

  • @michaeltsai520
    @michaeltsai520 2 роки тому

    Where to buy the ground connection?

  • @SuperSushiRoll
    @SuperSushiRoll 3 роки тому +2

    He would've made it to his friends shop, if he didn't have to lug the heavy battery around further reducing his range lol.

  • @cliffinkaemurd1320
    @cliffinkaemurd1320 2 роки тому +1

    Charging it while on the move is so hilarious

  • @TheDarkenmage
    @TheDarkenmage 2 роки тому

    Man, but the weight is such a ball buster; especially as I imagine picking it up from the trunk?! If this was lighter, I definitely would consider this. That weight is certainly a back breaker, literally.