Identify Your Ford Tractor: 8N, 9N, 2N, Jubilee, NAA, 600, 800, 900, 2000, 3000, 4000 and Ferguson
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Dan and Rachel show the differences between Ford tractors made in from 1939 through the 1970s.
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Wow! This presentation was impressive. When I was a kid, we had a 50/51 (not sure which) 8N that received the upgraded blue paint. My dad bought it back in 72. It was an absolute workhorse of a machine. I’m now in the hunt for one myself.
This has to be the best Ford tractor explanation video in existence. Nice work.
Hi, it took me a little time to realize Rachel is the person in the article at times in the Farm Show magazine/paper. Each of you in your own right are awesome. Together you make a great team. Helping everyone with their tractor.
You make everything easy to understand. As you go through things step by step. You provide an excellent service to anyone with a tractor.
May God bless each of you and your family.
I already see the comments section filling up. People... please realize how difficult it is to remember every difference between a model, much less the differences between years of the same model. They easily hit the high points so the average person can determine with a reasonable amount of certainty what model and year machine they have.
Gringell's. You did a fine job. I've messed around my share of vintage Fords. Frankly I rarely need to know the model and such to rectify the owners issues most of the time. Now I have a reference to try and be more knowledgeable on the subject.
I agree with your comment, also think about how hard it is to get a version of all these tractors to show in the video! Appreciate the video as well, nicely done!
The 9N and 2N have draft control, along with the 8n. The 8n adds the position control option for your 3 point hitch.
Correct. So many people, including the originator of this video, confused the two.
I was going to say the same thing.
I bought a 9N with a 12 volt conversion which wasn't charging the battery as indicated on the ammeter. An experienced tractor mechanic gave me the fix which I could not find on You Tube. He had a 1964 Chevy alternator wire connector wire he plugged in to the alternator and alligator clipped it to the battery wire. The ammeter shot up indicating a charging condition. I purchased the connector at Autozone and wired it in with an on/off switch I installed on the dash which needs to be switched on before starting (this energizes - adapts the alternator to the proper voltage output to the battery). The ammeter should then show charging. You then switch it to the off position. The ammeter should continue to indicate charging during operation. I had seen this installed dash switch on a Ford 9N tractor repair video being engaged, but with no explanation as to its purpose.
Ford with the Ferguson system. Ford manufactured the tractor ( 9N&2N) but the 3 point with draft control was Harry Ferguson’s “system”. The 8N was after the separation and is not badged with the Ferguson system badge. It has position control also.
I like the father daughter vids, thanks for all your teachings.
As an old Ford tractor 'specialist' for over 22 years, this information was perfect. WELL DONE.....~Eli.
You all are a valuable resource. Thanks for all you do!
Just restored a 1950 8N largely learning from your vids. Clear, concise, great pace and camera angle. Quality!
I love the Ford 9N & 2N videos!! A lot of great information! Thank you!👍
Very good job identifying the various models.
I have worked on more 8N/9N/Jubilee's than I have cars. Restored more than I can count. I always got a chuckle with the leather ring/o-ring that they put on the hydraulic pump piston.
You've got the tractor empire
The jubilee has always been my favorite. Very well done, thank you 😊
Not sure how i ended up here but what a wealth of interesting information! I've been to antique farm and equipment shows where I've seen at least one bonafide literal fist fight break out surrounding the model attributes and identification of these older Ford tractors. 🙄
Awesome, iam so glad your still making these very informative videos.
Thank you very much!!!
What a great resource you channel is!
These Two Father/Daughter duo did a fine of presenting the features of Fords. As a Ferguson collector and Mechanic, l would like to point out Harry Ferguson’s role in designing these tractors. I am going to research it more but, l am of the opinion that Harry Ferguson had a significant role in engineering the basic tractor from the start.
This would explain the overlapping similarity between the Ford’s and the Ferguson. Harry Ferguson was a brilliant Engineer.
I really love the style of your videos. Rachel, you are terrific. I just bought my first tractor to help out on my hunting property - a really nice Ford 640! I am doing a full fluid change of course before beginning operations, and the first video I watched was your oil change walk-through! I even ordered a new oil plug with screen, oil filler cap and agri filter! I'd love to see a video on changing hydraulic and transmission fluids as well! I'm a big fan already!
Thanks Rachael, you helped me identify my 1965 Ford 5000 tractor!
Love seeing grandpas old 9n in your videos, when it panned to the steering wheel I knew it was his with that weird wrapping on it 😄
I always wondered what tractor I was discing fields with in the early 70’s . It was an early version 8n . The disc was kind of big and I was steering it with the brakes . Thanks for the video.
Great additional information to the first id video I seen. It took me a bit to figure out I bought a 53 Naa instead of a 600 that the owner thought it was. Thanks for all your great info
Thanks 4 all the good, helpful information. Tractors are fun toys! I'm catching up with you, I own four now.
Have just begun learning about these tractors in preperation to buy my first soon. This was very helpful. Thank you.
Definitely enjoyed this video. I used to be a Ford tractor mechanic back in the '70s. Worked on a lot of Ns through through the X700 series as well as Majors. Loved those tractors.
Hi from Ontario Canada . Great video , I am always impressed with you Rachel and you're dad .. your both awesome
Thank you for sharing your info with all of us ...
Wow@ those Ford 900 series are some good looking tractors! 😍
I really appreciate your videos on all the different tractors. I've bought forgot what I did know about all the different tractors. I've got a Ford 650, that was painted blue. I have been told the dealers would paint some of the tractors blue so they would look different & attract buyers. Sometimes my lift when it's hot gets the he cups. I've been told it was the piston rings. I am about 60 years old & after bush hogging to day I could use power steering! 🚜🚜🚜👍
Very informative video that answered a lot of questions that I had over the years. I've always been interested in the Funk Conversion (6-cyl, 8-cyl) Ford tractors. They would make an interesting video as well.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge !
as always just full of valuable information
I have a 8n with the 3rd party Sherman 3x4 speed transmission that I'm currently getting running. Can't wait to see how that works.
I have a jubilee with the same setup.
With the extra low gears you will find it very useful for loader work or heavy tillage / mowing projects.
Another great video! Thanks
YOU TWO DO A GREAT JOB ..THANKS
Simply lovely run through the early Ford tractor series. Well done you two. I still have my father's 1963 Ford 4000 Industrial 172 c.i. 4-cylinder Diesel. Your information on Dealer repainting may have solved a mystery about this 4000. The under paint shows it to be a "Red-Belly" with a "Cream" not Biege set of tins. But at some time, it was over sprayed in all Ford Blue which has for the most part flaked and peeled off over the decades. I now believe the livery colors to be the "one-year" color before the next year it was Blue/Cream and the following Blue/Gray. 😊
You’re very knowledgeable! Thanks for sharing
Excellent Video!!! Thanks for the wealth of Information.
As mentioned in another comment, 9Ns and 2Ns only have draft control. Starting with the 8N, Ford put position control on the tractors. There is another lever, above the draft control lever, that when placed in the vertical position allows the operator to set a desired height. This is position control. When that lever is in the horizontal position, you are back in draft control.
Also, the early 2Ns, up to mid 1944, used the I-beam style radius arms same as the 9N. In mid 1944 Ford redesigned them to the oval shape arms. Also, the 2Ns added access holes in each of the doglegs to removed or loosen the bolts that hold the grille on. The 9Ns did not have these. There are also other subtle changes in the 2Ns versus the 9Ns, plus Ford made running changes in both as they did with the 2N's radius arms.
On the Ford Ferguson name, that is correct for the 9N and 2N. Harry Ferguson, wanted just his name on the tractor, but Ford said no, so they came up with Ford Ferguson 9N, and then later Ford Ferguson 2N. Harry Ferguson, after the hand shake agreement, thought the 9N was his, and wanted a lot of control over the tractor, including the name. Before him and Henry Ford went into business together, Ferguson was in business with David Brown, and their tractor was the Ferguson Brown. That was the tractor Harry brought to Dearborn, Michigan to demonstrate to Henry Ford to get Ford to go into business with him. If Ford did not agree, Harry Ferguson would have been broke, since he spent so much and borrow so much to come to the US and bring some tractors over to demonstrate to Ford.
BTW, live PTO was an option for the Jubilee and NAA. I don't know how many were equipped with it, but per Ford's video ad for the Golden Jubilee, it was mentioned it was available as an option.
You are right about the agreement between Henry Ford and Harry Ferguson but we have to give credit where it is due. It was Ferguson;s genius invention of the 3-point linkage that revolusionized the design of the modern tractor whose principle is used almost unchanged on farm tractors all over the word. Most of his disagreements with David Brown were because Brown wanted to introduce a bigger tractor but Ferguson refused as he wanted to show that his rather small compact tractor could outperform the bigger competitors of that time.
@@noelgrech8315 Harry Ferguson received credit for the "Ferguson System", but he wasn't the only one behind it. In fact, Ford's countersuit against Ferguson pointed out that Will Sands was the person that was more responsible for the system. When Henry and Harry shook hands, Ford engineers working with Sands had to iron out several problems with the system.
It's ironic that after the handshake agreement and when a few Ford-Ferguson tractors were already being sold, Ferguson wanted a bigger tractor. Ford made a few prototypes of this larger tractor, and from what I've seen and read, it was pretty impressive. But it didn't get much traction with Henry and Henry II. It's also ironic that a decade later, Ford did start making a slightly larger tractor, the 800 series (and the NAA did grow a bit in size from the 8N, but just a small bit). Henry, when he was alive, was a firm believer in one size fits all.
Thanks for the video, I just picked up a 960, wide front end. I grew up with Jubilee's and had never seen one like this before. I'm pretty excited about it. I'll be looking into getting some parts and a manual for it soon.
Feel like finding your website and videos is like stumbling into a gold mine! Recently lost my father and have been wanting to restore his “old’ ford tractor his father bought him when he was 16. Now I know it’s a 600 series and where to get started with all the wonderful info you all provide! Thank you!
Hello, nice series on all the Ford tractors. I've learned so much about them. Sadly I haven't seen any activity here lately. Any chance you two will get into a full restoration series on some of these old fords? Sure would like to see a full restore on a jubilee. Thanks
I'm glad I cam across this video. I have a 901 powermaster. Its been hard to order parts for. Especially carb parts it took me a couple a shots to get a rebuild kit. I had to finally cut my own gaskets.
I had a old Freind with a some what newer version of what looked like a 900 but the blue and grey . He would be about 110 years old . He had oil land and until like his father before the oil checks came in 1970's he had mineral rights he bought new equipment but kept it until he passed away. His stuff still lives
Thanks for the wonderfull refresher! a long time ago i had an older ford 2000 with a 4 cylinder diesel as i recall, late 60s, or early 70s perhaps? i have moved on to more "modern" kubotas and new hollands, but watching this really made me want to get another old functioning collector ford. Thanks for the great video!
Rachel, great job and with the help of the father's experience in mechanics he is the teacher, the attendant
Outstanding channel. I've owned 2N, 8N, 8N Funk 6 cylinder, and now a 961 Powermaster with wide frontend and front end loader. I love my tractors, though I'm lucky to be alive after some of my escapades on them. I'm having a great deal of trouble with my power steering on the 961 and with no power steering it is a very difficult task to do my chores reasonably and safely. I've recently retired from 40 years of anesthesia practice and am struggling to adjust to living without continual huge adrenaline rushes from Level 1 Trauma center experience. I'm actually really glad to be out of the pressure cooker, but am striving to get caught up on so many of the projects I've neglected for so long. Your information is invaluable and I hope that I'll be able to find the info I need to get the power steering problems rectified. Comically, I found out that a front end loader on a 961 doesn't mean you now have a bulldozer. So I burned out my dual clutch which the dealer in the area wanted ~$3,500 to fix. Being a stubborn old German, I said heck no and bought a Harbor Freight shop crane and split the tractor and replaced it myself. I didn't attempt to rebuild that dual clutch myself, but had it sent to a "specialist" in old Fords somewhere in Iowa and he did a great job. I've given up on having functioning brakes on it, but sure would like to have power steering back. Maybe I'll someday get around to putting in new seals in the rear axles, which I've been told is the reason my brakes still don't work after replacing shoes. Living in the Loess Hills of western Iowa, brakes are really kind of a must, but I've survived (barely) without them for the 38 years I've lived here with almost always brakeless, vintage Ford Tractors. Oh my goodness, the stories we all could share about these marvelous old beasts. I have seen so many of the most brilliant Rube Goldberg mods on old Ford Tractors over the years. Barnyard geniuses rigging 8N's with pulleys and steel cables to install foot controlled throttles, etc . The greatest examples of American ingenuity. I will definitely be accessing your website and would greatly appreciate any advice re: resources. I have the red 900 manual--if I can find it up in the barn and our resident groundhog hasn't devoured it for its' nest. Thnx for the Blessed work you do, Greg
A couple of decades ago I rebuilt a 47 8N for the landscape company I worked for. It was the perfect machine for putting in ball fields. Great tractor it was.
Thanks for such good information, Much appreciation!
Love your channel after searching for help on my recently purchased Ford 650 Tractor. Old technology that works awesome except recently. I purchased this from someone locally here in Indiana whos hobby is rebuilding old tractors in his garage. I just do not know all parts of the tractor he overhauled. The 3 point hitch worked fine until the recent cold snap where I had hope to remove snow off our long driveway with the 6 foot blade but when I went to use it today the 3 point hitch at first only raised up 6 inches then settled back down and will not move any more. I will follow your video guide to troubleshoot the issue and will keep you posted if I will look for assistance from your tech support. I currently work as an aircraft maintenance planner and I work closely with our tech support department when it comes to working Chronic maintenance issues on aircraft. Thanks for your videos very helpful as well as the parts support you have
Great Video and explanation on the different ford tractors, however I would love to have an explanation of how the Fordson tractors (Major & Dexta) fit into the mix. I own two fordson dextas and they are very different but similar too.
wow! young lady you truly are a walking data base on these tractor's i am very impressed thank you great video
Enjoy your videos, you always make it look so easy. Do you carry parts for most older tractors?
Very nice always great information!!
You provided some good points but boy you guys need to really check your sources! I was raised on these tractors, my Grandfather bought one new and several used. My father had several as well. The sales Lady down the road (YES!)bought, sold, and traded several of these thru the years at the Ford Dealer.
The early 9N (1939)had foot pegs. They did get running boards around late 40 early 41. The 2Ns (1942)were without starters and lights to conserve Copper. They had a Magneto and were hand crank then later the starters came back. Technically, the 2Ns were made until the 8Ns (1948) began with the much needed 4 speed transmission. The Proof meter was ALWAYS an option. We had a late 52 bought from the original owner without the Proof Meter. They NEVER came with front 16" tires unless a short line conversion company did it making them a trencher for example.
Ford Fergusons were indeed advertised in some magazines as such in 1939. Harry Ferguson insisted on his name being on the tractor and known as such, though it was Ford who had the marketing outlets and factories to produce them. Then the lawsuits, which goaded Harry to make his own tractors. He used Continental engines and a modified truck transmission gearset in his casting. What's strange is Harry insisted on 3 speed transmissions, but the TE and TO tractors did not get them. Sherman made auxiliary transmissions for the Fords but not the Fergusons. Drive a 9N with an Sherman transmission then one without and you'll see why.
The early 900s had no Power Steering available, then became a retrofit option. 901s came standard with it.
What a great tractor I have the 52 last year of the 8 n she's original she leaks down a little but she's a workhorse work on the road and all kinds of stuff on the property thanks for your great videos and information I have all the manuals and books and lots of parts etc from the original owner but always looking for more info and some stuff for this amazing tractor
I did my apprenticeship for Ford tractors in the UK from 1968 to 74. The Blue 3000 came with 2 different front grills the one you have is a Ford Force the earlier version had a different grill called the pre Ford Force. I did several courses on the Select-o-speed transmissions but they were a big flop over here. Pre ford force appeared in 1964-68 Ford force 68 to 78. That's a nice collection you have. Thanks
Excellent info. We really like our Ford 8N that’s been in the family since new. I’d love to find a nice running/looking Jubilee or 600-800 to add to the homestead workforce.
So happy your with your Dad and making money for family
Thank You’ll 😊
Awesome video, thanks for sharing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you, This was super helpful!
Great video . I have a 1946 2n . I have watched Her videos before She knows what she talking about. Smart Lady
Awesome channel!!
Great help. My jubilee thanks you.
this is a great video i was so confused when i see a 8n block on my 9n now i know it is indeed a 9n
As always another great video and I learned a little bit more info. Ford 4000 4 cylinder Ford 3000 3 cylinder
I'm only two an a half minutes into this video but feel I need to point something out: the tractors she is talking about are 70-80 years old. They likely have passed through the hands of many owners. Many/most of the parts from each of the 9-2-8 N Fords could be applied to the other tractors in that line so using things like the the wheels on the tractor or the radius rods as a indicator of model number is a bit shaky since they can readily be swapped between any of these tractors. Also keep in mind that many modifications to these tractors were available, many of them from the dealers themselves. Auxiliary transmissions are common on the 9&2 N series overcoming the gear range weakness inherent with three speed transmission. Since the serial numbers of these tractors can be readily found on line, that would be your single best source for researching the actual model and build date of any of these early Fords you may have.
I was about to post something lousier before I realized how valued your information is in this community. You just seemed mildly annoyed to be clearing the air in the first few minutes.
Came here bc the first thing I ever drove at 8 y/o back in the late 90s was like a 60s or 70s ford tractor. Good machine. Looked older than dirt so I always had a respect for them.
Cool vid. Very informative.
Being from the Midwest myself, your both from North Dakota or Minnesota. Can hear it in her voice the most.
What a fun job.
Thank you very much for this informative video. AS someone with minimal experience, thinking about purchasing a tractor, this is invaluable.
Trans. You can buy a 8 or nine buy it!!! Engine parts are still a viable at your PARTS STORE.
I have a 1953 NAA golden jubilee I started driving it raking hay when I was 7 years old.
We've got a Ford 601 Workmaster with front end loader. It needs some work. It's got a pretty bad hydraulic leak at the split. Still runs really well though.
you guys are awesome!
I had a Ford 961 tractor for years. It was a pretty handy tractor, did a lot of chores with it. It did even better after I put some wheel weights on it and lapped the valves. My only complaint was the occasional vapor lock after being good and warmed up. Mine had a power steering unit on it. It was a row crop model Jubilee so it sat two feet taller than the average Jubilee. To bad tractor companies still don't make these old tractors that are durable and simple to work on.
One thing that Ford could have improved on these tractors would have been to make the rear end of these tractor a little heavier.
Now that's service :-) brand new video--day of issue- and it's flown all the way here to NZ
But seriously... I am in the Levin area ( small town, 20K ppl, 100 km north of Wellington) and it seems- to my untrained eye- to be pretty much John Deere country. Green and yellow on all the farms ( sheep, cows, market gardens ).
When I was a child, way down in the South Island ( note "in " the , not "on" the ) the farm my grandfather managed had a Ferguson 35---they were Everywhere, and hundreds of them are still around used for light work, including hauling light boat trailers in and out of the water at beaches..really good for them....
Hi...I love your very informative videos. I have a 9n tractor, and you mentioned some 9ns are more valuable. Mine has a three speed transmission with a high low extra. Is that something special, and what else should I look for. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I appreciate that.
I wish you’d gone up to the 5000 series also. Thanks for the video.
Great informative video from younger people! Being an old Ford ag tech, and working with an even older parts guy he would ask four questions then he knew the model you had. The one question was a front mount distributor or a front mount magneto.
I have a MF 35 diesel. That's a real good machine. The only difference I find. , the diesel and the 2 spee trans.
You have given very good information ma'am 👍🇮🇳🚜🚜😀😀
Very informative, hope you discuss the Ford series 10 (7710 maybe 😀)
Very good info, i like the ram f150 lol.. thank you for the information
You missed a tractor. Supposedly in 1964 before Ford came out with the true Ford 4000 4 cylinder series, they took 801 powermasters and retrofitted them with loaders and backhoes and named them Ford 4000 industrial. Original paint sceme for those were a red belly and yellowish cream tin with a egg crate grill. I own one of these tractors. Would love to know if this story is accurate from your view.
Wish I could find a channel like this to identify the Howard Gem that I used to have.
I know that they were the best walk behind roller tiller ever built anywhere in the world.
Mine was a narrow version with the 9 h.p. J.A. Prestwich dry sump engine with the oil filled air filter. Built before they started using a Deadman lever for backing up.
That thing was a dream to operate, and used the same tines that are used on the full size tractor rototillers.
I found out they were bought out sometime in the 80s by dowdswell company that quit making them shortly after that and they were selling for around $10,000 at that time.
I could never find out what year it was made.
But I was able to download a parts manual and an owner's manual.
If anybody has a guess as to how old it was I'd appreciate hearing from you.
I got one here in Willcox AZ..not all pur together but parts are there.
Your comment that the 9n and 2n were strictly up or down is incorrect.. they were referred to as the Ford Ferguson because Harry Ferguson had developed the draft control and then in l1948 ford and Fergeson split up .
Hey Mr Dan, you and your daughter are a dream team on these tractors. i have learned alot, i personally own a 1986 1910. Its acting like the pto portion of the clutch is not there and grinds significantly when trying to engage the pto with clutch pedal all the way down. its like its not pressed in at all and i have to idel down to a low RPM to engage the pto and have to shift pto lever pretty forcefully past the grinding to get it into position and spinning. i know this is extremely bad for it and im gonna split it this fall to put a new clutch in. im not using the pto currently for this reason and just been doing other chores around the project farm we are revamping. i just bought it and kinda got bit on that part of the deal. but we live and learn and its mine now its a awesome tractor and i like it alot it only got like 840 ish hours and the hour meter works. it has a loader too which has been monumental in helping us. the farm we got has a 1948 Farmall C (I was told it was a C but not sure and could be a super c which would make it early 50s i recon) anyways it needs work but its pretty awesome probably would not take much to get running, its got the fenders which ever one it is. excited to maybe tinker on that this winter
It sounds like you need to adjust the clutch free play. We have had to do that on our Ford tractors.
Are ye still doing you tube just seen the channel now good info nice tractors I'm from Ireland
Got paint waiting tell spring
Lord willing I will paint it one more time
Still depend on it
Got a 1940.Smooth 1 piece hubs and aluminum dash.
Look under the rear axle housings the year is usually stamped under it
You guys should do a basic adjustment video on ford select o speed tractors just a basic how to on band adjustment and fluid change
The ol red tiger! The engine that humms when the going gets tough!
I have a Ford select o speed. Runs great.
I think the biggest detractions of the 9N are the brake pedal location, the PTO engagement, and the lack of draft control. The throttle being so close to the steering wheel is a problem I may modify one day because my fingers catch it if I don't use the steering wheel spinner.
we have a 9n with a backhoe added on going to go up on auction in sept the swing cyls had graphited packing cords on them going to put a reg cyl on it if i get it running for the sale
You may have just answered out with the block swap!
gooday gingells! im having alot of trouble identifying my 4000. the one i have is similar to the one you guys show (industrial) with a ford loader attachment. im having SO many issues with it lol