Polaris + Transit: When the US Navy Invented Satellite Navigation as a Side Project

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  • @Alexander-the-ok
    @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +160

    A couple of corrections:
    29:39 On screen spelling error: 'Colossally'
    33:33 I explained DISCOS incorrectly. The proof mass is there because it is ONLY affected by gravity and not solar wind, atmospheric drag etc. this also allowed a very accurate map of earth’s gravity to be built up over time.
    35:33 In an ironic twist, I spell ‘pedant’ incorrectly.
    39:40 I meant ‘polar' coordinates, not 'Euclidean'

    • @thericepotato5847
      @thericepotato5847 2 місяці тому +10

      I just wanna say I love the vector graphics at the start

    • @theq4602
      @theq4602 2 місяці тому +2

      51:13
      miniaturizing reactors is relatively easy
      whats hard is making them fit on an airplane or a missile as the power source
      the air force never really did make much progress on nuclear powered bombers but it wasnt for lack of trying

    • @cbecht
      @cbecht 2 місяці тому +2

      "I means 'polar' coordinates, not 'Euclidean'" Presumably, you meant "meant" not "means". =P

    • @SailorRob
      @SailorRob 2 місяці тому +3

      Alex, my father served on the world's first ballistic missile submarine as a sonar operator. He passed recently, but he used to say, "We could fire 13 missiles in 13 minutes." I enjoyed the video and hope this message finds you well!

    • @Zedsdead83
      @Zedsdead83 2 місяці тому +1

      Bruv this vid was 🔥🔥🔥. U got a sub here.

  • @JamesHBall
    @JamesHBall 2 місяці тому +251

    Excited to see this intro made in osci-render, especially as someone that's watched your videos before!

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +85

      You've watched my videos before!? Wow that makes me feel special. I'm a huge fan of your work!
      NGL the opening of this video undersells your software a bit. I'll try and use it in a future video, on my actual oscilloscope to do something more elaborate.

    • @JamesHBall
      @JamesHBall 2 місяці тому +23

      @@Alexander-the-ok would love to see that!

    • @SkyhawkSteve
      @SkyhawkSteve 2 місяці тому +17

      as an old analog electronics engineer, I very much enjoyed the use of the scope for the bit of video! Very clever!

    • @geebee802
      @geebee802 2 місяці тому +1

      As i’ve come to expect from this channel…it certainly didn’t dissapoint!

    • @dannydetonator
      @dannydetonator 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@Alexander-the-ok
      As just a broken artist at heart, i confess your intro made my day (tbh i'm at the bad spot right now, but still). Not just the render, but the hilarious Cancan theme tune in MIDI(#2?) format over the speedrun of US arms race, which i know by heart and couldn't follow, because the tune was soo good and imposing. Entertainment elevated to a level of art.
      Also found out about osci-render and you don't need Blender in 2D or DOS-OS old draw coding to make that, got to check out the OP guy. Even without that, a great take on Cold-War-1, and you probably realise that most Soviet space-race "firsts" (with notable exceptions) were pushed for SUCP propaganda victories and global communism soft-power projection, rather than advancement of science.

  • @o-manthehuman7867
    @o-manthehuman7867 2 місяці тому +105

    Oh my god the moskva clip absolutely killed me, this channel is the best

    • @riffzifnab9254
      @riffzifnab9254 2 місяці тому +12

      Same. It took me longer than I care to admit to realize the joke. (:

    • @noyb7920
      @noyb7920 Місяць тому +1

      It is a good thing they put the name on the ship for those slower on the uptake.

  • @Rhino_Aus
    @Rhino_Aus 2 місяці тому +125

    NGL I'm pretty chuffed at 13:40 my thought processes was "well it's not CF, that doesn't quite exist yet, so then it'll be magnesium or wood right?" I guess my aerospace engineering degree wasn't entirely wasted on me :P

    • @OutbackCatgirl
      @OutbackCatgirl 2 місяці тому +15

      mine started that way then ended "magnesium doesn't exactly get along well with water in dire circumstances and was probably expensive so imma choose wood"

    • @TreyVaswal
      @TreyVaswal 2 місяці тому +19

      'Wood!' club checking in. 😁 Cellulose materials, the original 'composites'.

    • @-KTGo-
      @-KTGo- 2 місяці тому +1

      I said styrofoam. This is probably why I’m not an aerospace engineer.

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 2 місяці тому +4

      I was guessing titanium, mostly for the irony factor.

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +36

      I suspected a good proportion of aerospace and civil engineers would guess that correctly. As i always say ‘wood is just nature’s carbon fiber’

  • @duncanmcallister7932
    @duncanmcallister7932 2 місяці тому +325

    7:48 "The US built 41 Polaris Submarines." that's crazy

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +99

      We only ("only") have 4 modern day equivalents in the UK. And even the cost of those is absolutely eye-watering.

    • @ethans4783
      @ethans4783 2 місяці тому +41

      It's crazy to think those 41 had up to 16 Polaris missiles in each one

    • @Rainbowdaesh
      @Rainbowdaesh 2 місяці тому +29

      Overkill is underrated

    • @billkew5385
      @billkew5385 2 місяці тому +6

      @@ethans4783and each missle had multiple independent reentry vehicles with a nuke each.

    • @stevengill1736
      @stevengill1736 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@billkew5385
      Exactly why "Civil Defense" just faded away about that time....

  • @michaelbuschle630
    @michaelbuschle630 2 місяці тому +51

    14:25 Density and hardness are actually not the only considerations for the selection of depleted uranium. Depleted uranium also happens to exhibit specific properties under conditions such as penetrating armor in which the projectile will continually “self sharpen” by shearing away away material that starts to mushroom out. This self sharpening helps minimize energy loss and allows the shell to penetrate greater thicknesses

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +19

      Yeah….I just kind of put the self sharpening characteristic under the umbrella of ‘hardness’.

    • @swainscheps
      @swainscheps 2 місяці тому +1

      Fascinating!

  • @baahcusegamer4530
    @baahcusegamer4530 2 місяці тому +369

    That “typical Russian submarine” clip was SAVAGE 😂

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +108

      It’s an old joke at this point but I absolutely could not resist.

    • @charliem989
      @charliem989 2 місяці тому +44

      ​@Alexander-the-ok "It's an old dig, but it checks out sir"
      "Love your work Alex, give the Moskva permission to go down"

    • @mikoajm122
      @mikoajm122 2 місяці тому +5

      @@Alexander-the-okYou are wrong. russia and North Korea’s parades main attraction are ICBMs on TEL platforms.

    • @RobertCraft-re5sf
      @RobertCraft-re5sf 2 місяці тому +6

      Black Sea Fleet big mad

    • @RobertCraft-re5sf
      @RobertCraft-re5sf 2 місяці тому

      ​@@mikoajm122what

  • @YesNowGoAway
    @YesNowGoAway 2 місяці тому +18

    22:31 - I had recently also *almost* impulse-bought a chip-scale atomic clock, and my idea what to use it for was clear: An egg timer.

    • @robertbruce7686
      @robertbruce7686 28 днів тому +3

      Wow. Atomic precision boiled egg 😂😂

  • @chengong388
    @chengong388 2 місяці тому +65

    Inertial guidance is absolutely insane, I've thought about this ever since I was a kid messing around with modding games and building simple robots but I always thought this is not practical because the degree of precision you would need is absurd, summing up acceleration to estimate position is basically what they would call a chaotic system, if your clock or accelerometer is even a tiny bit off, it will be magnified so many orders of magnitudes in your results.
    And yet they used exactly this to guide missiles, no wonder it is so difficult to build nuclear weapons, it's hard to say which is more difficult, the navigation or the warhead itself.

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +36

      I remember back in 2007 or so a lot of electronics experts were absolutely raving about how the mems accelerometers in the new (at the time) iPhone were a huge deal and would have cost thousands of dollars just a few years prior.
      I only really understood the hype a couple of years later when I started flying light aircraft and saw what the mechanical gyros in aircraft instruments look like.

    • @tommihommi1
      @tommihommi1 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@Alexander-the-okI had a RC quadcopter from the pre-mems era with a *mechanical gyroscope* on it

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 2 місяці тому +2

      Dead reckoning is a fitting term in more ways than one.

    • @UselessZero
      @UselessZero 2 місяці тому

      Hey, since mems is essentially a gyroscope reimagined in a new shape, it probably also can be used as method of maintaining orientation in 0g, like CMG.
      Though, would likely to require a bit more oscilating mass...

  • @adamnoakes2550
    @adamnoakes2550 2 місяці тому +132

    Really Alex, how do you expect me to pay attention to your impeccable technical content (edit: and unfathomably awesome oscilloscope graphics) when you've got me laughing this hard at the juxtaposed chiptune Can-Can music going on in the background?!

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +42

      I came up with that idea for the intro before I even knew what the video chapters were going to be.

    • @jimadamson8563
      @jimadamson8563 2 місяці тому +10

      ​@Alexander-the-ok it was like you were speedrunning James Burke's Connections! 😂 loved it!

    • @ThePenAndTheRose
      @ThePenAndTheRose 2 місяці тому +2

      It’s an ask but he knows his audience 😏

  • @mikeg7750
    @mikeg7750 2 місяці тому +42

    Shout out to Artem for always making amazing graphics!!!

  • @alexroselle
    @alexroselle 2 місяці тому +251

    7:24
    Engineering graduates in Canada: here’s a ring made from a collapsed bridge. Let it remind you to always be careful and conscientious in your work
    Engineering graduates in the USA in the 1950s: here’s a pipe you can smoke when you have to think really hard

    • @ShortArmOfGod
      @ShortArmOfGod 2 місяці тому +14

      Eh I'm sure Canada's made an actual contribution to something meaningful at some point.

    • @nikolaideianov5092
      @nikolaideianov5092 2 місяці тому +34

      ​@@ShortArmOfGod
      Dont make them to contibute again
      We dont want another geneva convention

    • @BaloneySandwichWithKetchup
      @BaloneySandwichWithKetchup 2 місяці тому +3

      @@ShortArmOfGod Lol how about the NASA Gemini space program.

    • @lostpony4885
      @lostpony4885 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@ShortArmOfGodgood luck winning either world war without the canadians who did a whole lot of the dying.

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +38

      UK: ‘Lol you did an engineering degree? Why didn’t you go into banking instead? Here’s a graduate job that pays not much above minimum wage, and enjoy spending your career explaining you’re not the guy that comes to fix people’s boilers’

  • @kisaragi-hiu
    @kisaragi-hiu 2 місяці тому +26

    The explanation going from "here's doppler shift" to "this doppler shift is different for every point on earth" is surprisingly intuitive

  • @dereksgc
    @dereksgc 2 місяці тому +29

    I've been independently working on a video about the remaining Transit satellite for a couple weeks now, it is still transmitting, still strong, as late as yesterday

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +15

      Fantastic! I’ve had emails from others who managed to pick it up. I’ve ordered a low noise amplifier to try again.

    • @dereksgc
      @dereksgc 2 місяці тому +8

      @@Alexander-the-ok you shouldn't need one, just focus on the antenna, a QFH can be really good when built properly but can be really bad when not, simply make a dipole antenna, around 53cm per leg, and that's enough to receive this satellite, and might even give you better result from the weather satellites as well. Not to self plug but I do have a video about the classic V-dipole antenna configuration. Another thing to consider is that you have your SDR gain set properly, if it's too low the signal will be weak, if it's too high it will get distorted and overloaded by interference
      EDIT: avoid using AGC, set fixed gain manually

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +6

      Brilliant thanks. I’ll watch your video and have another try!

  • @contrapasta2454
    @contrapasta2454 2 місяці тому +10

    The graphics (like the renders from Artem, the eerie intro sequence, and even the oil painting) really elevate these presentations to the top rung of UA-cam.

  • @xijinvegg
    @xijinvegg 2 місяці тому +22

    You’ve really stepped up the production value with this one, fantastic work!

  • @piedpiper1172
    @piedpiper1172 2 місяці тому +12

    49:00 I ain’t no fire scientist-or even a submarine scientist-but I reckon boats what spend all their time under water routinely going on fire indicates a large number of bad design decisions.

  • @ghostdog0424
    @ghostdog0424 2 місяці тому +40

    for the rubidium clock, a fun experiment is viewing the response to mechanical stimuli. I've done it with quartz clocks before and it's pretty fun

    • @stevengill1736
      @stevengill1736 2 місяці тому +1

      What do they do...put out randomly varying signals for a minute?

    • @nikolaideianov5092
      @nikolaideianov5092 2 місяці тому

      ​@@stevengill1736 here so i get a notification for the ansear

    • @ghostdog0424
      @ghostdog0424 2 місяці тому

      @@stevengill1736 it will cause the signal to drift in interesting ways

    • @ligius3
      @ligius3 2 місяці тому +3

      @@stevengill1736 I know that quartz varies its frequency when rotated along its axes, especially the vertical one. Perhaps it's the same with Rb, no idea. It also exhibits piezoelectric behavior, in reverse, forgot the scientific term for that (triboelectric?).

    • @tommihommi1
      @tommihommi1 2 місяці тому

      ​@@ligius3it's still piezoelectric behavior

  • @michaelimbesi2314
    @michaelimbesi2314 2 місяці тому +141

    10:20 Counter-city is also probably a more accurate term. Counter-value would imply that Russian leadership values the lives of their citizens. In the Russian context, the term “counter-value weapon” would probably be better used to describe the ground-penetrating nukes designed to collapse the deeply-buried bunkers where Russia’s leadership would hide themselves in case of war.

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +52

      That is a surprisingly good point.

    • @snigwithasword1284
      @snigwithasword1284 2 місяці тому +8

      Right, because the US values its citizens so much. Loss of life has always been such an expensive factor in our geopolitics. We've never started wars for the sake of stockholders and we definitely haven't been screwing over veterans continuously since literally right after we kicked out the british.

    • @bohba13
      @bohba13 2 місяці тому

      @@snigwithasword1284 but it does, and it has been. sure, our politicians have have gotten us into fucked up wars for little dicernable reason, but they wouldn't throw men away pointlessly or needlessly. every step of those fights we have tried to minimize our own casualties, and recently, even those surrounding our foes.
      Take the Hellfire-X, the knife missile. we made that so that our target, _and only our target_ is the one guaranteed to die. a nation that doesn't value civilian life _doesn't do that!_

    • @samblackstone3400
      @samblackstone3400 2 місяці тому +2

      This sounds dehumanizing man. If Russian leadership live up to their image abroad then we should make every effort to not stoop to such a level.

    • @bohba13
      @bohba13 2 місяці тому +3

      @@samblackstone3400 nah. it just means we need different types of warheads to actually have a proper counter-value deterrance.
      if a non-nuclear bunker-buster poses more of a value threat than a nuke, just use those instaid of the nuke.

  • @ethans4783
    @ethans4783 2 місяці тому +28

    14:20 wood is still used a lot in amateur rocketry, not quite for the nosecone, but yes! Wood in rockets is still alive

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +13

      I think cork is still used in insulation in actual spaceflight. It has better insulating/workability/fire resistance properties than basically anything else out there.

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 2 місяці тому

      @@Alexander-the-ok Copenhagen Suboritals uses cork derived material for their heat shields.

    • @MrBlueBurd0451
      @MrBlueBurd0451 21 день тому

      @@Alexander-the-ok Cork used to be the material of choice for ablative heatshields, and as far as I know, the Russians still use it for Soyuz. But the US has moved to engineered materials.

  • @jonnyj.
    @jonnyj. 2 місяці тому +10

    Man, your videos are EASILY my favourite on all of youtube. Probably the only time im genuinely giddy when i see a notification :D
    Its funny, literally everything you talk about is stuff im so interested in, and stuff that is almost non existent anywhere else on the internet in such an easily accessible way.
    Especially love insane cold war projects like polaris and apollo, where they threw unlimited funding at everything. Its an engineer's wet dream. Thank you for making these

  • @DeAlpineBro
    @DeAlpineBro 26 днів тому +2

    Navy submariner, 1970 to 1976. I made six runs on a Lafayette class boomer north of England as a NUC Welder/Machinist Mate. the 16 missiles on the boat were "Poseidon"
    "The Poseidon missile entered service in the early 1970s and was back fitted to 31 of the original 41 SSBNs. The Poseidon was more accurate than the Polaris A-3 missile it replaced, and could carry up to 14 warheads."
    Each warhead could be individually targeted. The targets for the run were brought onboard during refit in Scotland by civilian-looking folks carrying pocket protectors and metal suitcases. Memory was in the form of double-sided 14-inch vinyl disks stacked and visible through a window to be checked without entering the missile control room. BTW, there were backpack versions of nukes.

  • @camilogallardo1003
    @camilogallardo1003 2 місяці тому +4

    This is insane. When discussing the most challenging human endeavors in terms of cost and ingenuity we often think of the manhattan project or space exploration and the moon landing, and yet Polaris is the equivalent to both COMBINED. I cannot get my head around that.
    Thanks for making this video, I always learn so much from your channel

  • @AppliedCryogenics
    @AppliedCryogenics 2 місяці тому +4

    These videos are so good, I feel disappointed every time I hear "we dont have time to cover them all."

  • @DawnOfTheComputer
    @DawnOfTheComputer 2 місяці тому +21

    Great video as always!
    I'd love to see you do a video on nuclear ballistic missile defenses. It isn't widely known that early defenses were nuclear weapons themselves, used to nuke the nukes out of the sky, and intercept is an even harder problem than payload delivery.
    On the topic of weird missile fairings, I had a friend who worked on kinetic interceptors and told me his fairing was made of a classified beryllium oxide ceramic because in addition to the usual requirements, it had to be transparent to radar.

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +15

      Both the sprint missile and the Raytheon EKV have been on my 'maybe' list for a while. Trouble is, much of the info is still classified so they are really difficult to research.

    • @geebee802
      @geebee802 2 місяці тому +6

      @@Alexander-the-oki could watch Sprint content (especially the launches) all day, I’ve searched far and wide for info on it several times and you’re right….its hard to come by.
      Having said that - a video of you covering it would be a REAL treat!!

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 2 місяці тому +1

      Miltavia has a wonderful video on the insane engineering of the S-200 which was built to intercept supersonic nuclear bombers.

    • @jonnyj.
      @jonnyj. 2 місяці тому

      @@Alexander-the-ok YESSSS!!! If you ever were to do a video on sprint or the EKV, that would be a dream come true! I have been fascinated by sprint (and all of nike x... AESA radars in the 60s!) for so long. Unfortunately its really hard to find any info on it.
      The (unclassified) late 80's footage of old EKV variants thats on youtube is actual sci-fi too.
      Anti ballistic missile defense has always been seriously insane, quite a bit more impressive than ICBMs themselves imo :D

    • @jonnyj.
      @jonnyj. 2 місяці тому

      @@hedgehog3180 The S-200 is nowhere near the same class as sprint. They're totally different things.

  • @mpersad
    @mpersad 2 місяці тому +9

    What a superbly researched and produced video. Your channel is testament to how good YT can be. Terrific work. Thank you.

  • @PersimmonHurmo
    @PersimmonHurmo Місяць тому +2

    The intro was brilliant. So many important pillar technologies of our modern world came from a single ambitious project. Incredible.

  • @dasrit3
    @dasrit3 2 місяці тому +4

    The more I learn about the US space program, the more impressive it becomes, with hidden gems like Transit that I've never heard of before.
    It would be really interesting to view a lengthy timeline of US vs. Soviet achievements in space, and see how much the Soviets sacrificed in terms of capabilities for sensational press coverage while the US had its head down, gunning for material achievments that would pay off in decades.
    Also, the 3d modeling is incredibly well done, huge props to Artem

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +2

      I think this video discusses Soviet achievements in a pretty fair light. Don’t get me wrong, some of their feats were absolutely astonishing (Sputnik, Vostok 1, Venera etc), but others (‘first woman in space’, ‘first animal in orbit’, Soyuz 1) were…a bit silly really.
      ua-cam.com/video/rSK7rUSnFK4/v-deo.htmlsi=GntZdcp5Noqj9AwT

    • @dasrit3
      @dasrit3 2 місяці тому

      @@Alexander-the-ok Thanks! I will give that a watch.
      I definitely don't mean to downplay their achievements, they were absolutely astonishing for the time, but they could have got so much further if they focused on hard technical solutions rather than eye-catching achievements. Ironically, those are also the ones we hear the most about now in the context of the "Space Race".

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 2 місяці тому +1

      I love hearing about early space exploration in general because it's so hacked together in a way that's often easier to understand than the modern systems that are the most advanced technology in the world. I mean it still was for the time but it's more a case of taking the most advanced systems that already existed and putting them in some box rather than breaking new ground solely for a single satelite.

  • @michaelgrauvogl689
    @michaelgrauvogl689 2 місяці тому +7

    Thank you for this video. The amount of background information and further topics is impressive. I really appreciate this channel for this depth!

  • @DevReaper
    @DevReaper 2 місяці тому +31

    Wow I can’t believe they made the Megadeth song into a real thing!

  • @Android_ELITE
    @Android_ELITE 2 місяці тому +23

    I worked on (read: as a tradesman, not a sailor) one of the ohio class missile boats back in my old job about 5 years ago, and though I don’t know for sure as I wasn’t working directly on any of the components involved, I remember seeing a presentation about one or more of the sub’s launch tubes being converted to some sort of special operations launcher, I would assume to launch carrier vehicles for seals and their equipment or similar. Evidently the navy agrees with you these days about the whole “number of nuclear deterrent subs that are actually necessary” thing, lol.

    • @forcea1454
      @forcea1454 2 місяці тому +2

      Worth pointing Trident is much more effective than Polaris, both in terms of the of the number of targets that can be attacked (MIRVs providing a significant amount of crossrange to attack multiple targets, whereas the Multiple (not Independent) Reentry Vehicles of Polaris A3 could only be delivered in a pattern around a single target), and accuracy of warheads.

    • @tommihommi1
      @tommihommi1 2 місяці тому

      the number of warheads on submarines they're allowed to have is limited by treaty

  • @Sommyie
    @Sommyie 2 місяці тому +15

    I yelled "Yay!!", in excitement for the distinction, when you finished your story at @1:48.

    • @rockets4kids
      @rockets4kids 2 місяці тому +1

      How about a nice game of chess?

  • @kodywillnauer9422
    @kodywillnauer9422 2 місяці тому +10

    Maybe one of the best intros I’ve ever seen. 👏

  • @spacekip38
    @spacekip38 2 місяці тому +3

    44:20 wow, that shot of a polaris launch by gemini 7 is just amazing

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +1

      I couldn't believe it when I stumbled across that a few months ago (before I'd even started on this video!)

  • @edmoore
    @edmoore 2 місяці тому +30

    "I think we can all agree that placing liquid-fuelled rockets inside submarines would be an absolutely deranged decision" - Chevaline (which you mentioned) was an entire packaged hypergolic liquid stage.

    • @plasticbeetle6209
      @plasticbeetle6209 2 місяці тому +9

      That is UTTERLY horrifying. I cannot imagine serving on a sub with hypergolic fuel on board. Hope they kept it from the sailors honestly, knowing about it would only serve to keep them up at night lol

    • @edmoore
      @edmoore 2 місяці тому +8

      The royal navy was initially resistent but they went to enormous engineering lengths with the packaging to demonstrate it could be stored safely (and they succeeded) - they didn't really have a choice considering the complex multiple-relight requirements.

  • @TroyRubert
    @TroyRubert 2 місяці тому +57

    We stand on the shoulders of giants.

    • @stevengill1736
      @stevengill1736 2 місяці тому +2

      Or we fall off as the case may be... ;^[}

    • @Vinzmannn
      @Vinzmannn 2 місяці тому +1

      And we're crushing them with our giant brains

    • @MostlyPennyCat
      @MostlyPennyCat 2 місяці тому +1

      If they're giants, wouldn't that be _shoulder?_

    • @MostlyPennyCat
      @MostlyPennyCat 2 місяці тому +1

      ​​@@Vinzmannn
      I had someone try to insult me with, "wow, you really think a lot of yourself, huh?" (I do, it's true)
      My reply was, "Yep, how fantastic am I? My favourite parts are the parts where I talk!"
      Seriously people, you gotta strut.

    • @PanderingSlats
      @PanderingSlats 2 місяці тому

      Giants propped up by batshit paranoid military policy 😜

  • @briancox2721
    @briancox2721 2 місяці тому +21

    6:45 and having 41 Polaris submarines:
    Overkill is an often underrated achievement.

  • @wgkgarrett
    @wgkgarrett 2 місяці тому +13

    I had guessed magnesium when you gave a moment to guess fairing composition, I knew it had been used in some aircraft frames.

  • @heintmeyer2296
    @heintmeyer2296 2 місяці тому +2

    I drive by that gantry at Hunter' Point every day! I had heard the tale of the use of the extension for the Polaris testing. To see the actual footage is a real treat! Thanks AtOK, you're the best.

  • @chadmcelroy4194
    @chadmcelroy4194 2 місяці тому +10

    45:00 The Soviets actually conducted a few tests with live Nuclear missiles, notably with the R-14, during the Cold War. There's a video that featured this - it's very rare, so I don't blame people for missing it
    ua-cam.com/video/qFe97u7cUGs/v-deo.htmlsi=xQsNCrMa8DNpR93U

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +4

      Oooh you spotted an error! That should have said ‘only US live test’. I’ll add a correction to the pinned comment.

  • @realArisawaHeavyInd
    @realArisawaHeavyInd 2 місяці тому +4

    Holy intro ROFL you truly outdid yourself with this

  • @riffzifnab9254
    @riffzifnab9254 2 місяці тому +6

    22:30 Hiking with atomic clocks to demonstrate gravity based time dilation is always a fun pastime. (:

  • @billkew5385
    @billkew5385 2 місяці тому +3

    I was the Shemya station operator for a gps ground tracking station in 1986. Like running a lighthouse. Mostly automated.

  • @herpderptheshep
    @herpderptheshep 2 місяці тому +8

    There's a mockup of a Polaris A-1 in a park in my hometown. I guess the INS was partially designed at the Uni here.
    I wonder if that planted the seed of my later fascination with nuclear weapons.

  • @lostpony4885
    @lostpony4885 2 місяці тому +2

    I know an old engineer who worked on some aspects of those first missiles, he talked about the way the vaccuum.tubes had to be supported and they used aluminum plate with holes for the glass tube support.

    • @lostpony4885
      @lostpony4885 2 місяці тому +1

      I remember it as aluminum might have been steel.

  • @Steven-mv4bb
    @Steven-mv4bb 2 місяці тому +5

    Just a small critique: I would prefer if the music were mixed at half the volume or so. It's easier to hear what you're saying.

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 2 місяці тому +9

    Alex, Artem, brilliant show.

  • @InductorMan
    @InductorMan 2 місяці тому +9

    33:33 The description of the DISCOS system definitely can't be correct: gravity affects the trajectories of all freely moving bodies identically. Gravity isn't going to pull on the test mass more than the surrounding satellite. I haven't researched this system in particular, but I know that orbits are perturbed by more than just gravity variations. There are still aerodynamic effects even in pretty high orbits, and even when that's negligible, the solar wind will still perturb a satellite's orbit. What I imagine the DISCOS freely floating sphere did was to provide a mass that was _only_ affected by gravity.
    This would have allowed the system operators to construct an exquisitely precise gravity map of the earth as they continued to track the satellites, and since the mass distribution of the earth is fairly predictable (weather induced air and sea motion and ground water changes aside) this would then have allowed them to make much better predictions in the absence of tracking than if the satellite followed a trajectory subject to the buffeting of the solar wind and atmosphere.

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +8

      Wow yeah that was a pretty fundamental error on my part. What you said is exactly correct - the proof mass was affected ONLY by gravity.
      I’ll put a correction in the pinned comment.

    • @InductorMan
      @InductorMan 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Alexander-the-ok awesome! And I should have said in my original comment, your videos are always super informative and interesting, and I really appreciate how you try to present a realistic picture of the sometimes problematic context of the tech you're covering. Fantastic work, love it!

  • @LeeJDo
    @LeeJDo 2 місяці тому +9

    I wish I could upvote this more than once. Great work

  • @lucifersloofa
    @lucifersloofa 2 місяці тому +1

    Holy Cow how come you have so few views and subs? This is fantastic

  • @nomad8723
    @nomad8723 2 місяці тому +49

    10:19 - You are one of the few people who deliberately do not use weaselspeak when talking of military matters and I salute you for it. I loathe the modern military (and adjacent) forms of speech like "neutralized," "department/ministry of defense" and others. I understand that all these entities and systems are necessary (to varying degrees), but please stop talking about it like you're spelling out C O O K I E so the 4 year old in the room won't know. These things are designed to end human life as thoroughly and quickly as possible.

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +12

      Hmm I’ve never thought about that before. Maybe it’s a British thing? If someone used the word ‘neutralized’ in that context here they’d be ridiculed for it.

    • @nomad8723
      @nomad8723 2 місяці тому +7

      ​​@@Alexander-the-ok I think your average Joe doesn't use the sanitized military speak because they don't know it, but if you watch enough press releases, propaganda/recruitment, combat footage, etc. you will hear all sorts of byewords for kill and dead, at least in the English speaking world. These are mostly employed by higher ranking officers or servicemen who have a degree of seperation from the act itself (pilots, gunners, seamen), but sometimes used by infantry and special forces as well at least over comms. The purpose as I see it is twofold (granted I've never served), and that is 1. Make it seem more professional and 2. Create a mental disconnect between the act of killing and what it is called. It is very similar to the vernaculars used by cults or political movements (in my mind). It also reminds me of how in WWII the infantry trained on normal round targets, but found that over 90% of the killing was done by under 10% of the men, so they changed to silhuette targets in an attempt to basically pavlov the infantry into shooting to kill, not supress.

    • @ChucksSEADnDEAD
      @ChucksSEADnDEAD 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@nomad8723 Important to note that those figures were collected by SLA Marshall and his interview work has been called into question as scientifically irrelevant. While the silhouette target is probably a good idea because of realism, the Pareto principle applied to combat is more due to... take average people and put them in a bar fight, some will walk back towards a wall to get out of the skirmish, some with stand with their hands up and look out for opponents, and a minority with tuck their chin, walk forward and start swinging. Some people have the mentality and will find themselves in situations where they face violence because they are "switched on".

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 2 місяці тому +1

      An interesting fictional counterpoint are the warship classes in Iain M. Banks' Culture. These are all intentionally brutal (e.g. Abominator, Psychopath, Thug) since the Culture, as a whole abhorring violence, was going out of its way to paint them as violent, dishonorable, and undesirable (their use was to be only as a last resort after all other options had failed).

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +4

      @@alexhajnal107 I love the Culture series. I keep meaning to refer to it in a video somewhere.
      My counter-counter point would be if we did this in real life probably a majority of the population would think it was awesome. Hell, even I would love the UK to name a carrier the 'Attitude Adjuster'.
      It reminds me of that meme of Chinese propaganda repeatedly inadvertantly making Americans look awesome.

  • @storbytronics
    @storbytronics 2 місяці тому +2

    I love the oscilloscope graphics for the intro SO FRICKIN MUCH! How did you go about making them? (Also, as always, amazing video!)

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +1

      Osci-render. It has a plugin for blender so it’s easier than it looks.

    • @storbytronics
      @storbytronics 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Alexander-the-ok Cool, I might try it then!

  • @m.streicher8286
    @m.streicher8286 2 місяці тому +1

    The intro is lovely, the oscilloscope, the music, everything.

  • @darthmemeious9526
    @darthmemeious9526 2 місяці тому +3

    Love the osciloscope intro, took me back

  • @Remington53
    @Remington53 2 місяці тому +5

    at 15:07 do I see that they, at least in the design phase, were considering a SOLID BERYLLIUM fairing?

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 2 місяці тому

      Gotta do something with all those beryllium spheres they got at Roswell

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +3

      Oh wait until you hear about them machining beryllium for the gyros.

    • @jsax01001010
      @jsax01001010 2 місяці тому +1

      It's lucky for everyone involved in manufacturing and handling of those fairings that plywood came out a few pounds lighter than SOLID PLATE BERYLLIUM.

  • @thurstonherricks738
    @thurstonherricks738 2 місяці тому +9

    I was wondering if you had read inventing accuracy by Donald Mackenzie. Glad to see it was the top of your source list.

  • @h-leath6339
    @h-leath6339 2 місяці тому +2

    My gods you make learning fun. Wish I could give 5 thumbs up.

  • @railgun517
    @railgun517 2 місяці тому +6

    that intro was a insane lmao

  • @GuyW1thAPC
    @GuyW1thAPC 2 місяці тому +1

    You have quickly become one of my favourite creators to watch, please keep making more videos like this!

  • @alexholden
    @alexholden 2 місяці тому +3

    Incredible documentary. I can only imagine the immense amount of time that went into producing it.

  • @gen2mediainc.577
    @gen2mediainc.577 2 місяці тому +1

    My favorite documentaries! Its STAGGERING the scope and effort poured into Polaris.

  • @LeifBridges
    @LeifBridges 4 дні тому

    despite the little attention this video got relative to some of your others, the effort you put into it is clear, i hope that is enough for you

  • @goji_crafter
    @goji_crafter 2 місяці тому +6

    these videos are food for my soul

  • @staninjapan07
    @staninjapan07 2 місяці тому +1

    First time viewer.
    That is a beautifully put-together video.
    I am aware of errors (not a criticism), but nonetheless, very nicely done.
    From the arcade-game-style intro (which I particularly enjoyed), to the level of detail, refraining from using "clever" language, and nicely done humour, I enjoyed that from start to finish.
    I assume you are some kind of engineering chap yourself (I am not beyond a basic level).
    With many thanks.
    Subscribed (a rarity after one view).

  • @-r-495
    @-r-495 2 місяці тому +5

    Somewhat sure Capt. Grace Hopper was involved in this great list of accomplishments too.
    Her lectures have been declassified, they are very interesting.

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +9

      She would have been one way or another. Not only was she a genius but also an outstanding orator. I recommend her lectures to anyone reading this.
      She’ll be making an appearance in future videos on this channel.

  • @sarkybugger5009
    @sarkybugger5009 2 місяці тому +1

    Why has UA-cam taken so long to show me this channel? Superb content. Subscribed.

    • @smorrow
      @smorrow 2 місяці тому

      Friendship ended with Scott Manley

  • @horrorspirit
    @horrorspirit 2 місяці тому

    i love the intro sequence. explaining everything that goes into a weapon of mass destruction to a synth remix of the can can? hilarious. this video can only be good

  • @tiny_tex
    @tiny_tex 2 місяці тому

    this intro was beautiful. earned my subscribe in less than two minutes with some green light, fun music, and talking.

  • @robloggia
    @robloggia 2 місяці тому +17

    The realization that one of our most advanced carriers is named after Gerald Ford is mind boggling.

    • @lynndonharnell422
      @lynndonharnell422 2 місяці тому +5

      I'm not entirely sure that Ben Franklin would not be turning in his grave either.

    • @derek4950
      @derek4950 2 місяці тому +5

      Why? It's not a stretch at all. Ford served in the navy during WW2 on an aircraft carrier. This compares favorably to Reagan who served in the army during the war making training movies and who also has a carrier named after him.

    • @techietisdead
      @techietisdead 2 місяці тому +2

      Enterprise wouldve been better, or any of the E's like endurance for the firrst carrier

    • @robloggia
      @robloggia 2 місяці тому

      @@derek4950 True, but as Alexander mentioned, carriers in the US are used for PR as well as warfare. Regardless of his service to the public Ford is best known as the president who fell down an excessive amount of stairs. You might as well have named it the USS Dick van Dyke.

    • @robloggia
      @robloggia 2 місяці тому +2

      @@techietisdead There was a nuclear carrier named Enterprise, pretty sure it's been retired though.

  • @adrienthiers470
    @adrienthiers470 2 місяці тому +1

    Best introduction ever. The video is also really interesting

  • @OutbackCatgirl
    @OutbackCatgirl 2 місяці тому +4

    how tempting was it to say "because it knows where it isn't"

    • @EggBastion
      @EggBastion 2 місяці тому +1

      just after 16:48 ?
      apparently not irresistable but I know I would've struggled

  • @danmcdonald9117
    @danmcdonald9117 2 місяці тому +2

    Fantastic effort thanks mate

  • @jainickvishani5185
    @jainickvishani5185 2 місяці тому +1

    Whenever this guy uploads, I know I'm having an amazing dinner tonight

  • @kedge7807
    @kedge7807 2 місяці тому +2

    At 25:12 that's a Thor-Ablestar not an Able. The Ablestar itself was a major first in space being the first rocket stage that could restart its engine.
    The whole Thor/Delta rocket family are pretty fascinating in their own right. It went from a temporary solution while the longer ranged Atlas and Titan were developed to flying as a space launcher till 2018!

  • @crow578
    @crow578 2 місяці тому

    In 1989, I was in the Army developing combat robots and aerial drones. It's cool to see how technology evolves.

  • @skyrailmaxima
    @skyrailmaxima 2 місяці тому

    I have reasearched the design of older reactors extensivly {as its pretty connected to my schooling/job} so if you want to know, the design, iterations, and just the insane ammount of engineering that went into building them (just not any of the classified stuff)~
    But I absolutly love your content. My father and grandfather were both NASA engineers and what your channel goes over puts a lot of the old engineering documentation I have from them in perspective.

  • @ziggurat-builder8755
    @ziggurat-builder8755 2 місяці тому +2

    What an amazing documentary!!! Thank you!

  • @Corner5tone
    @Corner5tone 2 місяці тому +1

    Opening video is *chef's kiss*

  • @markp5726
    @markp5726 Місяць тому +1

    45:20 makeup - I recently saw a discussion about makeup (and anything else with even a trace of silicone) wreaking havoc on automotive paint lines and other processes requiring adhesion. If the docs don't say why no makeup, it was likely due to this.

  • @peterbonham5540
    @peterbonham5540 2 місяці тому +1

    Great history lesson. Should be watched along side Veritasium FFT video

  • @geographicaloddity2
    @geographicaloddity2 2 місяці тому +1

    The officer with a flat top hair cut looked like a young Robert Patrick, Terminator 2 time frame. Sort of appropriate, I guess.
    Thor rocket? Why are the US rockets and space program vehicles mostly named after pagan dieties?
    Excellent video. Thank you.

  • @trailblazingfive
    @trailblazingfive 2 місяці тому

    I like the directions this channel is moving towards; this videos was highly entertaining. Thanks you

  • @neutropictransmissions888
    @neutropictransmissions888 2 місяці тому +1

    "Alexander the ok" lmao, cool video dude.

  • @cabanford
    @cabanford 2 місяці тому +2

    Favorite tech/geek voice on the Intertubes ❤

  • @halfsourlizard9319
    @halfsourlizard9319 2 місяці тому +2

    Wait, there are atomic clocks that small!? Can I buy one!? I have literally no need ... but that'd be cool as hell.

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +2

      It’s called a rubidium time standard. They come up on ebay all the time. Mine cost about $150

  • @hedgeberg
    @hedgeberg 2 місяці тому

    Rewatching this for the nth time (I really enjoy the delivery and script of these) and the thing that really struck me this time is rhe range on the A3. Its truly insane that they managed to pack that much lift into that small of a package yet have it launch from a sub.

  • @NoPegs
    @NoPegs 2 місяці тому +18

    Mmmm, astrophysics.

  • @BlixenBlorp
    @BlixenBlorp 2 місяці тому +3

    thanks for giving me something to do with the sdr tonight

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +1

      Bit of a spoiler for you....someone has already emailed me confirming a detection (community post coming up in a couple of days)

  • @mikefox1932
    @mikefox1932 2 місяці тому

    The intro is just mind blowingly amazing, god damn

  • @rm3141593
    @rm3141593 2 місяці тому

    That intro was absolutely EPIC!! 😅.
    I watched the first 1:50 minutes a dozen times before moving on to about the 3 and 1/2 minute mark, when the song was still stuck in my head I went back and watched the intro 10 more times in a row. Then I made it to about 6 and 1/2 minutes and went back and watched it half dozen times again. Then I had to do a quick job for work, and it's back to watching the intro over and over. I've been watching this for about an hour and a half and I haven't gotten past the first six and a half minutes because it's so dang awesome!!! 😅😅. It's green (like an ogre) and it has LAYERS (of incredible awesomeness).

  • @dmdrosselmeyer
    @dmdrosselmeyer 2 місяці тому +1

    Love your content! Now time to roll up a couple hooters and get lost in an hour or so of esoteric engineering goodness:)

  • @non-human3072
    @non-human3072 2 місяці тому +1

    This project "video" is awesome!
    Cheers Alexander 😀

  • @sarahnautili4042
    @sarahnautili4042 2 місяці тому

    That intro is a hell of a thing. Good job.

  • @michaeldemetriou1399
    @michaeldemetriou1399 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for this video. It is Brilliant as are you my friend.

  • @EatRustledJimmies
    @EatRustledJimmies 2 місяці тому +2

    Best intro I’ve ever seen

    • @rm3141593
      @rm3141593 2 місяці тому

      I've been watching the intro for almost 2 hours now❤. Words can't do it justice!😅

  • @ripper132212
    @ripper132212 Місяць тому

    beautiful intro. The weighting of these videos is immaculate.

    • @ripper132212
      @ripper132212 Місяць тому

      42:20 45 bits of precision in 1960 lmfao.

  • @rm3141593
    @rm3141593 2 місяці тому

    Thanks! You just kept me entertained for over 2 hours just rewatching the 1:50 minute intro over and over. 😅 It's sooooo awesome!!! Unreal! Kudos! 😎🎆👏👏🇺🇲🚀.

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому

      Thanks very much! I now have the issue of having to constantly ‘up the ante’ for my intros. Ngl the next video will have a slightly less impressive one.

  • @blurglide
    @blurglide 2 місяці тому +5

    Amazing video! How did you get all the source data, like the British countermeasure system, or the cartoon of how Transit works?

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +5

      Mainly the books in the sources. The video is a US Navy training video and is available on youtube (also included in the video sources)

  • @Sirloincloth1st
    @Sirloincloth1st Місяць тому

    There is a Royal Navy Chevaline Polaris missile on public display at RAF Cosford air museum, near Telford, UK. It has been partially deconstructed into sections. It is fascinating to see. This was of course one of the most significant technical and political creations of the Post War era.

  • @phirenz
    @phirenz 2 місяці тому +3

    41:39 "One interesting aspect is the lack of specialised logic hardware"
    It might be called an "Adder", but logic ops are mostly there. It's just that the instruction naming is obtuse. Merge is bitwise OR. Extract is bitwise NAND. Complement is bitwise NOT. The adder can process these at 15 bits per cycle.
    With those, you can also build bitwise AND and bitwise XOR.
    This "Adder" also has various shift modes and can shift at 1 bit left or right per cycle. The Multiplication, Division and Shift instructions are "microcoded" on top of this, and so execution time varies.

    • @Alexander-the-ok
      @Alexander-the-ok  2 місяці тому +3

      Yeah this is what I suspected - it’s actually an ALU, they must have just called in an ‘adder’ back then.

    • @phirenz
      @phirenz 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Alexander-the-ok Actually, I read through the manual a second time. It was bothering me that they clearly described the Adder as just an Adder.
      What I think happened: the Adder only adds, but the shift + logic operations are actually implemented as part of the A and E registers.
      One major clue to this is that the Add operation always writes it's result to A, but the Extract/Merge operations can write their result to either A or E. Merge might actually be implemented as simply a register write without clearing the previous result.