WHY DO WE KEEP BUYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER? - Leopard 2A4M in War Thunder
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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Today we play the Leopard 2A4M in War Thunder. This is a Rank 7 MBT for Germany armed with the 120mm L/44 and fires KE-W Shells.
The Leo 2A4M is basically a 2A4 with a 2A7 costume on. It's got a slick camo net, some cage armor and even mine protection. But, that's about it. The armor is fairly weak against the opponents at true top tier and the mobility is pretty lacking due to the extra weight.
With Gen 3 Thermal Gunner Optics and a decent shell, it's still a good tank. The problem is... it still costs $70 for what feels like recycled content.
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do you really think that they give 2 shits about the game anymore? try playing ab sometime. 1.4+ moving one shots and people knowing where you are when no one can see you and where you are and they one shot you. this is why i quit paying for the game and won't spend any money on the game.
free stuff epic
@@theSCARB yoooo
Gaijin: "BUY OUR $70 PREMIUM PIXELS"
also Gaijin" *has failed to add bomber cockpits SINCE 2016*
mapping a bomber cockpit its a lot harder
They let us vote..
Real Cockpits, but less new stuff in the Updates,
Or some cockpits and more New stuff...
Guess what won by Player votes...
@@whiteking4895 bro... stop defending these greedy snails
@@dontkev3001 tech tree is whatever, but there is absolutely no excuse for premiums to have placeholders
not defending their greedy asses but cockpits are not gonna make that money back
"Is it worth $70? Absolutely F-ing not." - Just one of the many reasons I continue to support OddbawZ. Full transparency, direct honesty.
Not a single premium is worth more than $10 and even that is debatable, but that's the nature of free to play games, sadly.
@@kurosumomomy dumbass got a check and wanted to play top tier but I chose the wrong vehicle 😞😞
It's literally the asking price of some AAA games these days and it's a singular virtual tank. Imagine how much work goes into making entire videogames and they charge the price of that for 1 tank in a f2p game.
I agree but is canadian so no choice
Knowing where company is from, transparency, is not in their textbook
Feel like Gaijin will end up having a premium lineup of 2A4‘s cosplaying as every single MBT at some point, 2A4 Abrams edition
To real
Leo will be the top tier Sherman
2A4 cosplaying a T90M but has insane reverse speed
At this point, they're going to add a new 2A4 with every sov/ru MBT they add as well.
Did a 2A4 ever dress up as an Abrams historically? Because this 2A4M is a real tank that evolved this way during the Afgan war you know the one the US started then forgot about while UK and Canada was there the whole time.
Never in my life would I have thought to hear the words “Anime thighs” come out of a Scottish man’s mouth
Damn you beat me to it lmfao
Why was i Not surprised that a Player named anime thighs uses the 2s38 cause i think we all thougt the same
A lot of worse ways to go than being taken out by anime thighs.
@@Milchmannseinopatbf 90% of the people at level 50 or above have used the 2S38.
@@leopard2a786 yeah good Point but uk still 2s38 IS Just a stupid vehicel in General an so are most of the Players using it in Game though
Thank you for advocating new Shermans! We're actually missing one of the most widely produced US WWII M4s - the M4A3 (75). It was the US Army's main tank for a time, before they upgunned to the 76mm. By far the most produced tank that's missing from a time period they otherwise cover very well.
Next event
And don't forget dozer Shermans, M4A3 105 with power turret traverse (upgraded just after the end of the war), M4A1E9, Cullin Cutter Sherman, and a whole slew of others, but I forgot the US doesn't get any WWII stuff anymore, just boring top tier air and crap.
@@albundy8139 preach. Im so tired of Abrams and F16s
@albundy8139 what would be the point in adding dozers or cullins cutters?
@@kirotheavenger60 It's an iconic thing that US crews did, I wouldn't advocate for it to be a tech tree vehicle, but a mini event like we had for the unique IS-2 a few years ago, it should still be added as an event.
"Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact same fucking thing over and over again, expecting shit to change."
-Vaas Montenegro 2012
Gaijin in a nutshell... I love the irony of this sentences especially when you know what game it come from
90% of the games made by AAA studios:
That quote is WAY older than 2012
@@Studio23Media even so its more known because of FC3
Full access to a game usually cost $60, but instead I will buy an in-game item I already have for that price and support the special operation through some tax route while I'm at it.
"They all have the one brain to? That's fascinating!" Had me wheezing from the start lmao 😂
Id say those are ai
seeing the absolute conga line of leopards that first game was great, really shows the game's state
Looks like fuking bots inflating playerbase
@@darugdawg2453basically is 😂
man above 9.0 is all just lemming trains W straight through the map out of spawn, most of the accounts are like level 10 too
@@Deaththumbs classic moms credit cards... i find the real players and sweats sit in about 5.3-8.0 range to avoid the lemmings and tech disparities.
If the tanks weren't the price of these new triple A games I would buy them. $70 is crazy for tanks and planes.
Buying drugs and getting high seems worth it
15:04 casually shoots down a plane with his main cannon
$70 for a big leopard disappointment is CRAZYYYYYY! (Classic Gaijin)
and the country that its representing is a major disappointment
@@theresnobodythere The fk do you even talk about
@@weebsarecringe2102 idk the country but im sure its also a disappointment if its that expensive to get a tank from
@@theresnobodythere ????????????????? lmao
$70 for a direct copy paste Type 90 is way CRAZIIIIER.
I can’t wait for premium abrams, leopards, and t80 lineups
War Thunder needs to create a 1939-1945 WWII Battle Mode. No cold war tanks allowed. Many of us want the old War Thunder back again. Make War Thunder Great again!
I'd like to imagine a BR fixed specifically for specific tanks like I'd not want to see the BT-5 fight against a Tiger 2.
Gaijin has completely lost the plot. Between the recent crap map changes and constant cut and paste new high tier vehicles and no effort at all at fixing balance issues, CAS problems, One death leaving, broken damage model, etc, etc, etc, it's clear that Gaijin is just 100% lazy and couldn't care less other than milking the player base these days. The flood of clueless newb players to mid/high tier has ruined the game. Games are now decided within a few minutes and nobody cares about anything beyond their individual daily or Battlepass challenges. God help anyone who actually used to enjoy the team aspects of battling to see which team could outplay the other using tactics and skill. Now it's just hold down W and charge up the middle, fire a couple of shots, die, rinse and repeat. The game (Ground battles at least) is as good as dead.
With this update it is starting to show that you can not only add new vehicles. We need updates focusing in new game modes and other things like advanced customization, while doing that they could add like 5-10 vehicles of other eras cause there are a ton of them yet.
Top Tier is kinda done and needs its own maps and modes too, this tiny maps aren't made for this tanks
I long for the day Gaijin overhauls its modification system and uses a more "alla Wargaming" approach. Different modifications will make the tank ±.3 BR higher
I'm still mad that they removed Enduring Confrontation in air RB
@@riatorex8722we should have gotten an enduring confrontation for top tiers on ground RB too.
"I got killed by anime thighs"
- OddBawZ, 2024
"Leopard cats are solitary, except during the breeding season"
Also Leopard : 3:10
Fun fact this tank is literally false advertisement, as is the vectar to a minor degree.
they promised "simillar protection to a 2A7V" but "forgot" to add said protection to the tank, so it is now just a normal Leo 2A4. the Vectra was teasered with its F2 round but ony got the F1 which is sgnificantly worse.
it has more armor than a 2a4, both on turret and on the hull
@@kabzebrowskiYet it's still not even close to being similar to the 2A7v's protection
@@kabzebrowski has it similar (read as close to) the armour of the A7V? no it has not. simple as that
@@AlphaHorst That's not what you wrote. You wrote "it is now just a normal Leo 2A4", which is false. Might not be a 2A7 but it's not a 2A4 either. Also not sure where you read that from, because the pack page mentions nothing about the 2A7.
if someone was smart and had some time they could start a class action law suite against GAYJIN. because that is false advertisement and deceiving practices.
Firstly, it don't look right without that slat armor. It might significantly reduce weight but I'll keep rocking it because of *fashion*, (I hope you can picture the jazz hands).
Secondly, I wish it had 650mm of armor in the turret cheeks and 550 over the breech. That would allow it's armor to be effective in top tier, (for the most part), and there's still significant weakspots on the front.
Balancing wise I can understand they didn't want to make a 2A7 premium or people would have been even more upset but if it at least could have gotten either one of the 2 good A7 armor packs, either do just the hull or just the turret as a strong point, as they did it with the sneaky removal of their words on the dev blog it's just scammy beyond, otherwise the tank itself would have been alright imo.
Also just me but idk why people say it's worse than the PL, same mobility, same hull armor but at least for me I can actually tank some shots with the turret armor that seems to just work better (maybe better volumetrics because of the shape) than on the PL, every hit I take with the PL is either some dead crew or my breach gone, EVERY SINGLE TIME
Canada officially has vehicles in 3 different nations now. US, Germany, and Great Britain.
And Sweden
Crazy how so many top tier maps are CQB
They scammed alot of people with it they first said in the description it gets 2A7 armor (similar in defense stats) and made it available for purchase and after like 1 week changed the description without the said sentence about the armor . Since you cant refund gaijin basically scammed people with false advertisement.
No, they didn’t. You just lack reading comprehension. They said it’s true to some extent, and they did add the 2A7 armour lol. What they failed to mention is that, the 2A7 armour is only on the roof, but it’s there. They didn’t scam you, you just failed to read properly.
@@thatonelocalauthority2809 nah buddy i got proof of them changing the description AND if you Read about the Tank it does (irl) have similar protection to the 2A7 armour package. And btw they even statedin the first description of the Tank it Would withstand most rounds on its br which it now clearly doesent, how about you inform yourself first before questioning someones reading comprehension
@@thatonelocalauthority2809ratio'd
The fact they sell 1 vehicle for $70 is so ridiculous.
Just wait a couple months for it it be 80. Then a couple more months it’s will be 90, 100, ect. 100% they will add a f22 premium for over $100 eventually.
What IS ridiculous is the amount of people stupid enough to PAY that amount for a single vehicle in a game.
Ah yes.
The Leopard series.
Quickly becoming Gajins equivalent to World of Tank's tier 8 Soviet premium heavies.
I think T80s are already the tier 8 soviet premium heavies of War thunder, considering theres 4? premium T-80Us in the Russian tree and a few more scattered outside it
@@velqt Technically 2 since the other T-80s (like the UK, the UM etc.) aren't premium but yeah. And knowing Gaijin, we should be expecting more in the future
Vaas: “Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact... same fucking thing... over and over again expecting... shit to change...”
It's crazy to think that top tier tanks will never really progress from here
No wait , what about russian barns in Ukraine
Yeah. Maybe Leo2A8, possibly with new gun, T-90M (actual modern one) and whatever will be its upgrade/successor, some more abrams and south korea stuff. And...its done.
No one has to buy such tanks but well. Guess which 11.3 bracket is completely filled with literally 2A4s. :) Societies can't be doing that bad if so many can afford 70€ for a single vehicle.
You forgot that for some this game is an addiction. Then there is also reckless and toxic spending.
@@the_ranger_zone3391 I'm well aware of that but if you really think, the majority of the spending players are either addicted or have other problems which lead to spending into nonsense, we are ultimately doomed on another level.
Because WT wants to keep selling your favorite tank, gajin makes a problem to sell a solution.
Gajin: there are too many abrams, t-72, t-80, and t-90's? Here's a leopard 2A# for the generous price of $70.
Great to have you back, please keep up the excellent work. It is much appreciated. Just going a suggest if one day you could do the otomatic, just because 1. It has a massive forehead
2.limited ammo
3. No armour
4. Is it able to compete in war thunder anymore.
This only a suggestion so if not no worries still love you vids, thank you👍
OddBawZ : I got kill by Anime Thighs.
*My dumb brain imagining a Anime Girl squishing OddBawZ to death with her thighs
Thanks BawZ..💀
stay off the hub brother
12:14 that AJ37 was so cool
2:50 A look at the majestic leap of leopards, they are all seeming shocked and confused at finding themselves in a city, an environment quite possibly the farthest removed from what they are most comfortable inhabiting.
I would love for them to add more shermans like the 75mm M4A3 or the dozer blade sherms
Damn, OddBawz roasting Gaijin and the players in the first three and a half minutes, nice.
every since this new update dropped ( 14:18 ) you can shoot with your barrel no matter how red it is, you will be able to shoot once, and them it will blow up, so you need to actually take down the barrel now in order for the enemy to not shot back at you
When everyone has a leo and t80 they can't complain about balancing. Gigabrained Gaijin.
“The definition of insanity, is doing the same shit over and over expecting things to change”
Great video Jamie, looking forward to some more fun tanks next game, this update imo has been a nightmare, they constantly change things, sounds, looks, graphics, rockets sound like someone is shaking a trashbag open and everytime all it does is push me further away from enjoying the game I use to love. I cant even run max graphics anymore after the update, so overall everytime they think they are doing something "great" they're actually just messing it up. And you're right this tank is a scam, its just a way for a kid to purchase a leopard into top teir and that makes it so much worse, they are profiting of naieve children. Every game is an upteir, the list just adds up to me not wanting to play.
But ill continue to watch ya grow, night dude 💙
KE-W definitely got some buffs and spalls a lot better than it used to.
Ridiculous pricetag aside, I hate how the Canadian vehicles are broken up between so many nations. When the Skink got added to the British tech tree I thought it was a sign of how things were going to be handled in the future, but clearly that was not the case.
At this rate I'm expecting to see the Grizzly in the American tech tree, and that'd be a real shame.
isnt that an american premium event vehicle already?
@@brayachdragonbane7529 That's the Ram, unless I'm mistaken.
"I got killed by anime thighs."
-OddBawZ quote of Summer 2024💀
As a devoted Sherman enjoyer, and highly recommend Hunnicutt's book on the M4, the models of M4 missing is just a damn shame. Oh well I'll just keep playing my Calliope...
Anyone who buys premiums when they aren't on sale are nuts
Then I must be one crazy Canadian
3:15
They move in herds...
They *do* move in herds..
3:19
And this is why gaijin adds maps where we can’t even flank anymore.
The thing that really gets me about this is that you'd think with all the problems high-tier America is having right now with their questionably-modeled Abrams tanks, the best move would be to dump this in the American tech tree. People with more money than sense would absolutely grab up a chance to have a Leopard 2 in the US tech tree. And while I wouldn't want to see it introduced in this way, I personally have always wanted to see America get Canada as a sub-nation in their tech tree (mostly because Britain already has a sub-nation in South Africa) because we're missing out on a lot of fun vehicles because of the lack of a proper Canadian sub-nation, like the Cougar, LAV III and some copy-paste of Germany and Britain because, well, why not at this point?
Instead, Gaijin decides that the best place to stick a Leopard 2 variant is in the German tech tree, which is already chock full of Leopard 2 variants that you can get _for free_ (kind of) along with a _ton_ of premium/event Leopard 2's already there. I'm not even saying this is a good idea - this is an absolute waste of money regardless of what tech tree its in - but if Gaijin is going to be evil, can they at least not be stupid about it?
I never had Problems with the shells, a lot of people complain about the KE-W or DM53 round but i never had problems penning anything nor doing damge with them. Its kinda weird how diverent the experience with certain shells is for diverent people.
i would love if we could get nice camo nets for all the tanks! they always look nice
25:12 you could have peeked, thanks to new feature of auto loader breakage he has no round in the breach
Yeah lol its gonna take some getting used to, i still forget to use drag qnd drop for vehicle selection
I bought it just for the title that you get "royal canadian"
70$ for a title
I for sure got called out with that title, I have nearly every top tier premium for American, Russia, Germany, and Britain
I would honestly love some more WW2 tanks or maybe even add some flavour with WW1 tanks in a separate spot with unique maps, I never really liked the higher tiers because to me it feels like post-Cold War tanks don't have as much charm because it's a lot of really fast, stabilised one-tapping.
As a Canadian, I'm happy to see my Nation's tank in game. Not gonna buy it cause already have the 9.3 premium leopard 1
I mean, the whole gaming being leos is also gonna get worse now that Italy at top tier can use the leos. Italy irl is also buying Leo 2a8 so whenever we get to that rank Italy is gonna be all leos aswell
The 2A4M just seems like a better 2PL
And there are still at least 2 Leopard variants after the 2A7V: 2A7A1 and 2A8
They could gave made a tech tree Oerlikon Skyranger and a premium Skyranger instead.
+ If War Thunder ever goes into modern concept vehicles there are 3 more MBTs
I get better by watching yours vids I just do the flanks you do and they work thanks!
What is the goofy version of Deutschlandlied you use in your vids?
The convoy of leos is actually amazing😂
I bought it, I needed something alongside my 2A5 that could also help recoup SL while grinding top tier.
Play the 2s38, it got a massive buff with this update and when I say massive a mean massive, it's just stupid good now
Isn't there an experimental leopard 2AX that was supposed to be an advancement of the A7 variant with a 140mm cannon or something? I thought I read about it in like 2015 ish. They could put that in.
also just to say, they did add the British premium jet at Top Rank. so they are now selling. not even trying to dodge.
2A4M basically just looks like a worse version of the Leopard 2 PSO, you could get the same or maybe better performance from the Leopard 2 PL, since that thing actually has somewhat more reliable turret armor. (Keyword being somewhat, still has large weak spots)
Do you think it is worth to buy the pzbtl 123 from the summer sale for 32,5€? I think it is much better value than this and probably the best option for a top tier premium for Germany.
Yeah it’s the best option.
Yeah its very good, got it for that price and grinded the entire tech tree with it
Gaijin: “We don’t want the players to have instant access to high tier vehicles so we don’t overwhelm players”
Also gaijin: “we’ve added more 11.3 premiums so you can have instant access to top tier”.
What a joke…
Former CAF.
Never heard of a leo in the middle east like the description according to Gaijin. This a copypaste tank. It also states that the leo2a4 is the only tank in service and it's only in service with Strathconas which is ALSO SOME WIKIPEDIA BULLSHIT. (Dragoon Gang)
The majority of our armoured vehicles were leo1s with add on (in game it's the C2MEXAS) also found in the German tree (9.3) with the inaccurate 1970's thermals and early leo1 powerpacks. There are multiple declassified records that state that early Leos in the CAF performed poorly due to the extreme heat. Our crewman cooked.
This is some more copypaste shit, straight from the snail.
As a Canadian, I appreciate them adding another Canadian tank, but why did it have to be premium?! like ugh.
I have so much respect for you for calling out gaijin for their bs
On sale this is a good pick. Probably the most solid top tier premium tank.
1:26 Ackchyually 🤓☝; From a glance, that DM33 does seems to have quite a bit more kinetic energy compared to the KE-W. Thats probably why its feels more spall-y to you. The higher pen of the KE-W is probably more from the material density and other physics magic things.
"and other physics magic things"
anything faster than a chefitan is fast enough. the priority is armour. then firepower. mobility isn't really important on the tactical level. Just don't be too heavy and be able to be moved by train. which isn't a thing here. idk why people seem to think being faster means jack shit
Ill never understand why they refuse to give the Abrams good thermals and its spall liner
It does look nice though with the desert camouflage and slat bars
they tried to make germany into russia with top tier premiums
thanks for the great content here Odd...that second match you were in is probably why some people think that there's a bias toward content creators...first the down teir and then you wrecking the whole other team. XD Another theory is that you have 'paid actors' on the other team. ROFLMAO ! 😉
That's how it is IRL. You buy the same tank with internal upgrades sometimes external changes (depending on your doctrine and needs).
Im confused. Someone called up a tank manufacturer and said "can you glue a carpet to the outside?"
@@elLooto It's a camo net, I think it's the barracuda one which reduces the IR/Thermal signature but you'll be surprised at the Leopard upgrades.
@@subjectc7505 Lol. That camo net looks exactly like a hardwearing carpet in a flat I used to rent.
I still find it weird that they didn't put it in the UK tree
It's Canadian.... If anything, it would go to the usa tt.
Tanks independent of the country usage, should stay on their original nation tt.
That was a great shot on the A-10
@14:24. you'll be surprised how common that is nowadays
Look at the kill feed at 22:53 😂
What are you talking about its not a 2a4 cosplaying a 2a7 its just a 2a5 with better thermals. It does not get the extra armor on the front that the 2a7 and STRV 122 have.
The snail needs to realize toptier is no fun (9.0 and above is just mbts in maps theyre not designed for), and that they need to revamp it, or at least give low tier some love. Panther mantlets and t34 driver hatches still not modeled realistically. Same goes for any turret honestly that has a machine gun in it
Nice to see a canadian tank. Even if it is an overpiced premium that I'll never buy.
OddBawZ says" Look at them they all have the ONE BRAIN too" Isn't that the truth.... The Leopard Hoard .... lmfao sounds hilarious.
As a Canadian, I only bought it because I support Canadian vehicles! Low key more excited about the "Royal Canadian title" lol
God i wish camo nets was a customization option
I mean .. theres actually quite a lot more to add to Germany. Actually SO MUCH MORE - its just that Gaijin doesnt care and rather goes for the quick buck. Or makes a 2S38 for Russia and Russia alone.
Gaijin try not adding Leopard 2 and T-80 every update
( challenge impossible )
Latest update summarized:
3-4 original vehicles (didn't asked for it, nobody will ever use them, but hey, atleast something new)
preset change thingy (didn't change anything drastic, still have to pay for the fucking crew replacement)
some module change on top tier vehicles (something to sell for the wallet warriors)
a new air tech tree (max 2 original vehicle, rest is copy paste)
In summary: no content for f2p ground players at all
I want more historical skins for tanks and planes that you can earn instead of buying. Also updated cockpit and pilot models. Screw the new premiums
I have the 10.3 prem leo , and I love it , only reason why I want this is I’m Canadian and was a crewman , so this really tickles my fancy , but why didn’t they give us upgraded leo2 with the full wedge , I guess only good 11.3 has to be Russian
Does that Leopard have english voices because it's a Canadian tank or is there a setting to make all voices english?
Gaijin could add many more vehicles for Germany... Different testing Leopards or the PzH2000...
I think they are just lazy and focus on breaking top-tier AirRB right now, there is no time to add actually new ground vehicles for any nation.
Nice shot on that A10!
“They all have the one brain too” 😂😂😂
I really wish I could play modern vehicles without needing to grind for a year or pay for premium vehicles.
I wish they would stop adding Leo 2s and T80s and start working on mid tier tanks, like more versions of the BTR or other APCs/IFVs
You can get the Leopard 2A4 Panzer Battalion for less, and it's a lower BR and grinds everything from Rank 1 to VIII, the A4M is a scam. If you were really desperate for a high tier Leopard 2 "premium" you can get the Leopard 2PL for FREE, again this tank is absolutely ridiculous it'd be somewhat justified if they added it to Britain, but even then we got Challenger DS which is again cheaper and a lower BR that can grind everything.... Leopard 2A4M is just a giant waste of money